Why Don't Liberals Admit the Black Community is a Mess?

Hey Sup Forums, moderate Liberal here.

Why don't liberals and the media admit that the black community has problems? What exactly is wrong with realizing that there is a serious problem in these communities?

>Pic related the two goons that shot Dwayne Wade's cousin RIGHT AFTER Trump talked about black people getting shot in their own streets

>Trump was actually right and yet everyone says

"That's racist! Black people only get shot by racist police officers! Nothing to see here folks! Oh and also, the black community is fine!! Trump is wrong!"

Then, often it seems these same people go on to whine and complain about black people's plight through "Black Lives Matter."

....I don't understand, how can you claim that "Black Lives Matter" while simultaneously trying to keep your own people in poverty by ignoring the issues and going after cops?


Any liberal news outlet:

CNN Commentators:
>"Trump is racist! How dare he say that black people have horrible school attendance rates, huge poverty and rampant crime rates in the majority of their neighborhoods! That's RACIST!"

How is it racist to point out a very valid issue, and then offer to help with it like Trump did? Isn't that the opposite of racism?

It's sad but some stereotypes hold truth... Look at these mug shots.They probably don't even feel regret for killing another person, just "another one" on the record.

Can you help me figure this out Sup Forums?

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Trump is controlling the game at this point

Hillary either can lie and say the black community is doing great - which will force blacks to know she's lie and make them realize she won't help them

OR

Hillary has to admit the black community is failing which will make blacks wonder what Obama has done for them. If she goes this route, Trump's next move is to push the narrative of what has Obama done for them

Either way, this is to erode Hillary's support from blacks

It's really just a plot to solidify democrats as the winners. Any self-respecting white person would vote conservative. So, how do they change that? Make sure they don't respect themselves. Make them feel like they are the reason for everything wrong witht the world, and the only way to redeem themselves is vote democrat, give the reigns to colored people (even though they can't succesfully run a society), let as many refugees and immigrants in as possible (who will also vote democrat, and also can't keep from destroying their own societies a la the reason they are refugees/immigrants in the first place)

Not truly addressing black issues and instead only providing solutions that perpetuate the problem provide the democratic establishment with an extremely consistent voting block.

The solutions that conservatives offer have been successfully labeled by the left as racist, thus preventing most black people from considering other options, due to either stupidity or fear of becoming an outcast.

because they have done a lot to make it a mess, mostly through welfare and the war on drugs.

Because they've been in charge of it.

It would be admitting they've done a horrible job

It goes against the narrative that the democratic party is good for minorities. Give them enough to keep coming back for more, don't give them enough for any real change.

Cognitive dissonance.

Failure to acknowledge reality.

Either one works.

That's the thing. How long do you have to get fucked over before you realize something is wrong? Every election 90%+ of black people vote democrat. It's really hilarious to think that 90% of people have identical political opinions and views and lack the introspection to form them on their own. Has anyone in the community ever asked themselves "WHY" they vote democrat apart from the fact that they're told to or the "racists" win?

>Can you help me figure this out Sup Forums?
Redpill.

The media, news, government, and social narrative is owned and directed by liberal agendas.

Trump challenges this.

Trump is winning with the average voter.

The status quo (liberals) are getting more and more scared each passing day, that they need to inflate anything Trump says as 'rhetoric' despite it being 100% true.

>Hey Sup Forums, moderate Liberal here.
>Hey Sup Forums, moderate retard here.
Fuck off.

The power structure wants blacks to be unruly criminals because it gives the state an excuse to further militarize the police. More dindu riots means more up-armored police trucks and more military grade small arms for the pigs that protect the property of the elite.

Most people don't even vote.

That's what happens when your political system appears to be fucked beyond repair. We can talk about those who do vote, sure. But most don't. And even fewer educate themselves beyond the media narrative. It is hard to know who's lying when both sides are calling each other liars, so they trust a media they wrongfully assume to be free of an agenda.

>T-they found my secret club!

I thought you had to be at least 18 to use this site?

Agreed, most blacks don't vote. They did in the last 2 elections because of Obama, but when they do vote its because they're usually promised more gibs from the democrats whereas republicans promise jobs and less gibs

The coon-munity rather have free gibs and no jobs

Whites NEED Black people to remain as fucked up as they're are. Could you imagine a stable Black community with businesses that compete with ours? What if those niggers went back to Africa and got into mining and made their own shit? We'd be fucked! I don't know about you but niggers motivate me. No matter how bad my feels hurt I can always look down on niggers.

>Implying blacks even care
>Implying 90% automatically vote Democrat
>Implying blacks are smart enough to understand that Hillary isn't for them

OP it sounds like you fully don't understand what is going on. Special interest and Globalists don't care about facts, they care about slanting things to aid with their take over.

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>Could you imagine a stable black community
No.

I think the guy on the left already looks remorseful.

Niggers were actually doing better off before 1970. They businesses and dads in the homes. And they didn't kill each other that much either. I like today better.

Except it won't work. Minorities are going to vote for Hillary by record margins not because they like her, and not because Trump doesn't have a point, but because they want to vote against Trump's racist supporters.

He looks more confused/deformed.

>All I did was shot somebody! Why you takin me away!

Why wouldn't you want to work for a living though? I've lived as a NEET before and it's literally hell. Sure "having every day be a saturday" sounds nice but sitting around doing fucking nothing all day is it's own kind of hell. Working now gives me meaning.

I know you want to try to pass yourself off as white, but nobody, especially white people, are intellectually intimidated by black people. Not even the prospect is a worrying thing.

I'm fairly conservative and would most likely be labeled racist for my worldview. I would love to see a sane, non-stupid, capable, self determined black community. I would even like to see the same for Africa. It would be better for everyone.

But I've just come to grips that its never going to happen. And you should too.

Black people earn their lack of credibility in the US.

Your failure to take centuries old systemic issues into account would be troubling if it weren't also completely predictable.

A lib blithely ignoring the collapse of 2 parent families in black communities starting in the 60's and an accompanying rise in crime, school dropouts, drug use and demands for more gibmedats is also predictable.

>Why Don't Liberals Admit the Black Community is a Mess?
They're usually elected by these communities as their representatives so that would be admitting that they're terrible at their job.

I am more prone to take into account the thousands of years old systemic issues facing people of Sub-Saharan descent.

What I find truly fucking remarkable, in a feat of impressive social engineering, is that the very wealthy white people on the coasts, who most likely profited from the slavery and subjugation of black people are the first to pass the blame of black people's current state onto middle class and poor white people. And these "privilege" and "predictably ignorant" platitudes are a main driving force behind this bullshit.

Fuck you, your (((ideas))) and the horse you rode in on, basically.

>Why Don't Liberals Admit the Black Community is a Mess

This is a sacred cow of American liberalism. Political and mathematical realities can't be applied. To apply those realities would be to admit defeat (the last 60+ years of social engineering, grandstanding, exploitation). Defeat would mean retreating and maybe even partially losing an already won voting demographic bloc.

It would be a terrible political mistake to give he right any room. Fortunatley, a solid percentage of the democratic party has no intention of embracing political realism. And what tiny minority of the party is willing, sociology will be there to cater to them with deceit. Emotional rationalizations will fill the gaps. Black people will do nothing. Its a very self containing system.

What bad can come from this wondrous diversity?

Because they're of weak character and taught to not take responsibility for their actions.

There's a whole bunch of nigger threads today. Wtf is going on???
Is this WORLDSTAR!?

The vast vast (like 99.999%) majority of blacks would at most be small business owners, and nothing past that. Unless you can't imagine yourself owning a small business, you have nothing to worry about.

Why?
When you have a hammer everything looks like a nail.

Democrats hammer is redistribution of wealth.
It does not matter the problem, the solution is always economic.

To the dems the issues in the black community such as crime, poor education, drugs, are not about race but symptoms of the economic system.

You can speak to a Democrat and say we need economic support in the black community to combat those issues, but you can't mention those issues independently.

...and pointing out that redistribution has failed is a direct challenge to their belief system

Because it's a self-interest for them. The black struggle is really hurting the right and the left, because black people want solidarity or dominance over a white society, whereas the leftists want to be as inclusive as possible to serve their own ego; to be inclusive, people stick up for the black struggle. The demos sees it as a struggle against a white Christian patriarchy, and they have to support the black side because if they don't support the blacks, then people know they're not truly diverse.

So basically there's no hope and things will get worse and worse and people will get ever more lost in their delusions eventually self-destructing and ending any freedom man once had?

Admitting the black community is fucked up after receiving their vote for decades is an admission that they've done nothing to fix it.

Black communities need to be split into their own districts.
They need to police themselves, with state and federal oversight of their leadership to prevent corruption.
Felons can't vote, hold office or have any political involvement.
Corruption of any kind is classified as a felony with immediate removal from office and seizure of assets.

Because Jews made whites to blame for everything

>because black people want solidarity or dominance over a white society

Dude I just want to finish college, get a salary job, and start a family in the distant future. What the fuck is this dominance crap? I just want to sit at a computer and program.

The thing I do with liberals is give them the truth myself? Are they really going to fight back against a black dude who is telling them first hand they don't know how black communities REALLY are? I'm saying all liberals are like that, just the ones who like you said want to serve their ego.

After Mike Brown, I finally realized Obama hasn't done shit for the black community. Also this is my first election, so I'm going with Trump.

Because if you admit there's a problem then you have to propose solutions.

To admit a problem is to admit that they have done poorly to address the issues. That's why they're waiting for BLM to take over the issue and paint it as racist so that the Dems can swoop in and the 'good guys'.

It's simple OP, if the left acknowledges that the black community is a mess and that it's something white guilt and tax money can't fix that might encourage black people to think for themselves or something, and how do you win an election like that?

>Why don't liberals and the media admit that the black community has problems?
Because Negros are not humans

t. Liberal

This is what happens when you believe a lie. You have to protect yourself from even the slightest challenge. Once you admit that you're even 1% wrong, the whole thing starts to fall apart.

Liberals do admit that it's a mess. It's just that some people think that it's only a black issue. Latin communities are a mess. Redneck comminities are a mess. White suburb communities are a mess. The whole society is a big mess and in turmoil, most people just seem to cherry-pick certain other people to blame them for the mess (feminists blame patriarchy, bottom feeders blame feminists, racists blame minorities, minorities blame "The Man" or whitey etc etc)
Many black people or muslims get a bad rap just for being poor, being uneducated, being violent when others in the same position would behave exactly the same save for a selected few who grew up in a social environment who values gaining knowledge or social standing via hard work
Deporting mexicans won't solve any major problem in the US, genociding niggers won't either.

I mean in a localized and general way. Every society assumes dominance in their locale. With white+black in places like detroit, for example, it's frame-vs-frame. It's "white society" vs "Black society".

You want to sit at your computer and program. But being a black person in a white society, you'll be known as a "black programmer" rather than a "programmer". The liberal agenda is about individual self-interest and not having to be labelled by the collective; they support the black struggle even when it means that a black society will assume dominance if no white society can fill that role. Liberals ignore this, and they ignore it because it's in their self-interest to do so.

On a related note . . .

That's pretty fucked up if one thinks like that, but hey if they're to stubborn to see things and Trump is the one that makes them scared. I'm in for voting for him, tired of those fuckers.

this they just vote for who gives the most GIBS ME DATS

Why can't liberals just be honest and reveal themselves as the power hungry snakes they are.

Yeah no, Blacks have a serious problem even compared to poor people from other ethnic groups, nice try though.

Fuckin rekt

First austrian post ive seen that isnt top tier in quality. No, the nigger communities aren't comparable to any other in the US, even the hispanic ones.

>ship people from Africa, don't even consider them humans
>go out of your way to separate their society from yours
>suddendly they're free again but for the most part dirt poor outsiders in a war-torn country
>constantly have to prove themselves only because they're black
>apartheid still exists until the 50s
>put them imto ghettos on welfare, further separating them from other parts of society
>act surprised when they chimp out
Looks like you've played yourself, shart in mart.

There are no liberals in American politics/media. They use that word, but the left really want to create a nanny state where everyone adopts a state-dictated morality. Some are socialists, but none are liberals. It is important to call them what they really are, not what they call themselves.

How come it's only African Americans that are causing trouble? Other real African communities or diaspora are doing from okay to incredibly good in the US.

Chicago is a great example of what happens to the black community when 60+ years of Democrats consistently hold office. You have to understand, Chicago is not like most cities. The Chicago democratic machine is so well-oiled and proficient at its job of getting votes that the rest of Illinois doesn't even matter politically, because Chicago always, always votes blue. It has a rich history of corruption in the city started by Richard "Shoot to Kill" Daley. When his son said in a speech that diversity is Chicago's greatest strength, he wasn't lying.

Modern Chicago is by far one of the most segregated cities in America next to Detroit. Pic related. Blacks are concentrated to very specific areas of the city often not much larger than a few square miles, and these areas are absolute hellholes. One foreign reporter described crossing a bridge that separated civilization from slum villages reminiscent of India.

Why is this the case? These areas have not been dominated by a white majority municipal government, so you can't blame whitey. In fact, some of them have had consistently black and Mexican aldermen since the 70s. If you took a look at the type of aid programs that have been pouring into communities like East Garfield Park and Englewood, they consist mostly of direct benefits like SNAP and Moving to Opportunity, a program designed as a lottery for low income families to move to an area with a less than 10% poverty rate.

You will find if you venture into these communities (don't, it's dangerous) that very low income poor black people hate their politicians, especially the older generation. They know electing black leaders doesn't solve anything, and hasn't for the last 40-50 years. They are very disillusioned with the political process as a whole.

Explain why Negros commit the majority of crime in London while being 13% of the population?

>moderate liberal
no such thing
classical liberals mostly died out - a shame too, they're actually smart somewhat and fun to argue with
all that's left is progressive trash

You cannot compare segregation to apartheid. Two very distinct concepts. Segregation was designed with communities in mind, apartheid for all African nations; as in, you needed your own passport to venture out from the African townships. Not to mention segregation occurred in a very small part of the country, whereas apartheid was nationwide.

I'm surprised, bacon. Usually your ilk deliver quality posts, what happened?

> I assume you are also uneducated

Fucking Liberals, they ALWAYS do this. Every fucking discussion they throw in "I'm smarter than you" instead of writing an argument.

>Doesn't realize segregation didn't exist until 1913
>Doesn't realize literally all negative legislation that has effected them is from the Democratic party
>Doesn't realize that their current state really isn't conservative white American's fault
>Shills for blacks, in fucking America
>Shills for these fucking people: cbs46.com/story/32855749/elderly-woman-beaten-set-on-fire-dies-after-weeks-in-hospital
>Is a cuck of the worst sorts

America has rednecks, Germany has Austrians.

They're bottomfeeders, simple as that.
They're uneducated and unwilling but the government was liberal enough to let them in in the first place and then too conservative to actually try ro integrate them into society

They've been playing this game for generations. Niggers are dumb. I'm flabbergasted.

>what happened
I'm not one of those cucked apocalyptic tinfoil posters you're used to

>"youre a racist and your statistics are false"

Fucking hell. Are some people so delusional they outright ignore basic statistics because they find it "racist"? They are so deluded with their own narrative that anything that contradicts it is "wrong" or "evil". I don't know why this doesn't surprise me anymore.

Its an assumption and a non argument they try to fling at people not just to demonize the opposition but simply to reassure themselves that their illogical thinking is the right thing to do.

Its simply the result of someone bringing a fact based argument that contradicts their own deeply ingrained narratives. It is just a defense mechanism because somewhere in their own brain they have doubts about their own intelligence and rationale.