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Cop Dukat did nothing wrong Edition

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First time the four great powers of the Quadrant team up, and all they get for it is a bullshit excuse for why everyone is humanoid

Discuss: "Fun episode, terrible conclusion" can be used to describe at least 50% of all Star Trek.

I thought it was pretty cool

I guess they needed to have an episode that explained why everyone just looks like humans but with funny foreheads. if they hadn't, there'd be more autistic sperging about it (there still is ofc, but less)
also that pic just reminded me I want a cardie gf

I always wondered how all those humanoids on the other side of the galaxy were supposed to find that out.

>Cardassian
>great power

I never forgot

>this kills the Tholian

the scene that confirmed Miles is a gay and Keiko is just his beard. how do you turn down a fertile spoonette who wants your dick and babies?

>I guess they needed to have an episode that explained why everyone just looks like humans but with funny foreheads.

It's called convergent evolution. Any civilization is going to need similar humanoid features. First, they need a large cranial capacity which is basically only achievable if you stand upright, since it's easier for the body to cool the brain. Secondly, they'll need hands to use and create tools. They'll also need binocular vision and complex language. These beings will most likely all be carbon based lifeforms. All in all, any species that could create complex civilizations would probably look remarkably similar since they all share the same niche.

the federation cheated it early by successfully racemixing much more than usual.

Thank you data

I agree, but you're always gonna have that one guy who really just wants those 1950s era sci-fi art aliens who just looked like huge plobs (but somehow still lived in houses similar to our own) and wonders why Star Trek doesn't have them (or at least, a lot of them).

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>killed his friend of 20 years over a piece of bread he was going to share anyway

Miles a shit and he deserved Keiko

>Allegedly the character of Data (Brent Spiner) was inspired by many sources. Roddenberry is said to have felt that Spiner's initial portrayal of the character was too human-like, leaving many viewers confused as to Data's exact nature. One of the suggestions put forward by the writing staff would be for Data to make a short "bleep bloop" noise whenever he confirmed an action or produced a computation. Spiner, however, tended to notably vocalize the sound effect much to the annoyance of other cast members. In addition he would make whirring sound effects when moving or just before responding to a question. Eventually it was decided that limiting Data's vocabulary by avoiding the use of contractions was the best way forward. Spiner's original interpretation of the character would become the basis of his performance as the character Lore.

So was it intentional that they used the same actress for the main Founder and also gave them a similar backstory (changelings were once solid and are big on genetic engineering)?

>trekkers

>One of the suggestions put forward by the writing staff would be for Data to make a short "bleep bloop" noise whenever he confirmed an action or produced a computation.

>tfw she was a changeling all along

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>ywn have faith

>tfw In a Mirror Darkly makes you wish all of enterprise had been following the mirror universe crew so the show would at least have a good intro for the majority of the episodes

>that feel when the people you thought were your friends decide they liked their old friends better and gang up to murder you just to bring them back

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, OR THE ONE

Isn't that a good casus belli, like the Cardassians occupying Bajor. They did literally nothing wrong.

Not being an ancient Roman, I don't read Latin

Try again

Probably because everyone in that situation would like the captain to bring them back too.
The only one against it was the faggot doctor

No pulse, no opinion

That's hot

So it's democratic murder.

Two is more than one

How can it be murder when there's a net gain of 100% on the number of people on the ship?

If you kill somebody and then rape his daughter pregnant does that mean you are breaking even in the murder margins?

I have one kid and have killed one person, and yeah I consider my net impact on the planetary population to be neutral

So I guess

it's not murder because Tuxiv was a thing

>ywn have strength of the soul
>ywn reach any star

cardis were just assdevastated the bajorans were better at space-faring with a frigging space-sail

So what's the thesis here? It's not murder as long as you've produced 1 person for each person you kill?

>be trip
>die and overly unnecessary death
>nobody cares
LOL

>horrible abomination whom's creation killed two people
>supposed to feel sorry for it when the crew wants to get their friends back

That episode isn't canon

he did nothing wrong

Neither did Tuvok and Neelix

Did he have the expertise and skills of both Tuvok and Neelix?
No?

TOO BAD,
SO SAD.

two people died so it could exist

He did actually, and their memories

But still, he life was never his own. Eventually, he had to give it back.

not really
newer people require more resources

I wana call bullshit on this but spiner is also known for being intentionally annoying so I'm on the fence

He refused to give back his life.
He showed that in a critical situation he would look after his life over the rest of the crew.

sorry, tuvix, you just looked too creepy

is lacking of willingness to self-sacrifice punishable by death in Starfleet?

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>I AM CORNHOLIO

yes

yeah but that's like punishing somebody for being a rape baby

Starfleet officers are trained to never risk, or even possibly risk the lives of innocents to save their own. This is something Sisko explicitely says to Worf in that episode where he's on trial for blowing up a Klingon transport ship

Neelix was an innocent. If Tuvix really had all of Tuvok in him, he'd know his duty was to give back the two lives he'd stolen in order to be born.

Tuvix was a pretender and no matter how charming he was, he was NOT a Starfleet officer. His death was necessary, proportionate and in-keeping with Starfleet ethics

Tuvix wasn't a Starfleet officer. He was a sentient being who Janeway had killed in order to bring back two of her crew. That's literally all there is to it.

Allowing him to live ended Tuvok and Neelix's lives

Did they not deserve life?

Yeah, using that song instead of the orchestral fun from TOS/TNG was a huge mistake

Second version was great, fuck you

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Remember the episode where Troi takes the exam to become a commander. What would have happened if Geordi refused the obvious suicide order

Why is this part always so readily brushed aside in this endless debate ?

arguing about Tuvix is pretty lame

yup, justified.
two crewmen is better than one.

Troi had already passed the physical exam where you have to choke Geordi to death with your bare hands

t. reptile Xindi

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desu the Mirror Universe seems pretty great

Their lives had already ended. They were dead.

t. Janeway

she would have gone to the next engineer and asked them to do it. the point was that Troi had to be willing to order someone to their death in order to save the ship if needed

But they were brought back.

How can they be dead if they're alive?

It is pretty great

>go to Barclay and ask him to do it
L M A O

Long Live the Empire!

End this meme. The MU is shit, the only good thing to come out of it was Kira in a leather catsuit

Is ENT mirror fun at all? Im not there yet

And the fanfics

>Barclay says no
>Troi uses her counsellor training to bully him into suicide by engineering

Mirror two-parter are the best ENT episodes all together

why would all the characters be born when the history is so completely different?

They were revived. Murdering people to bring others back to life is classically considered morally wrong, as addressed in the Aesop fable The Hand and the Bumberries.

Because muh prophets

Because the setting is retarded and makes no sense. Or maybe it's a parasite dimension that can only exist reflecting ours. But it's still shit

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What the fuck

Sisko is a crazy ass motherfucker

>Picard fought The Borg. After they were done ruining his life, he sat in his office and drank tea. Then Sisko fought The Borg. After they were done ruining his life, he went and built a bunch of guns strapped to an engine and called it a warship. They only called it The Defiant because Benjamin Sisko's Motherfucking Pimp Hand wouldn't fit on the side.
kek'd

Coincidence or causality?

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>he went and built a bunch of guns strapped to an engine and called it a warship

The Defiant was a Tactical Escort vessel user

The Federation has no warships

>murdering a killer to revive two innocents is wrong
>but killing two innocents to save the life of an abomination is fine

#TLM

Actually you'd be killing two abominations to save the life of one innocent

Awesome

why are Sisko fanboys so cringe?

cringe

Sisko did nothing wrong

he's not a killer, he's an accident

except for that time he carpet bombed a planet bc his feelings got hurt

>Starfleet is focused on """science and exploration"""

>all ships are armed with photon torpedoes and military-grade shields

lmao

>that final scene where she realizes how wet personally murdering Tuvix made her

Why is Jeffrey Combs so based?