Why did Britain do so poorly Post-WW2, especially when compared to many countries that experienced huge economic miracles? Any good books that answer this question?
Thomas Allen
nth for what did she die for?
Anthony Carter
N O T H I N G O T H I N G
Eli Kelly
Who do we want to win robot wars lads?
Brody Miller
Jo, huh, yeah What did she die for Absolutely nothing Uh-huh Jo, huh, yeah What did she die for Absolutely nothing Say it again, y'all
Carson Scott
Post lunch, lads
Aiden Reed
>We were bombed out >We were forced to give up the empire.
It's fairly straightforward.
Jose Roberts
The mood after WW2 was quite left-wing and the U.K. became more socialist. There's your answer.
Jordan Russell
I don't mind so long as there is destruction. My money would go on Carbide.
Christian Lopez
Thor's back lads!
Jacob Hernandez
Dissolution of the Commonwealth, huge debt from fighting two large scale wars in the space of 30 or so years, mass immigration to the Americas, rise of Labour Government, financial aid from the USA was terminated in 1945.
The Eclipse of Great Britain by Anne Orde gives some good examples.
William Morales
Provided it isn't a flipper I'll be fine
Daniel Sanchez
I hate the summer It's too hot, no girlfriend and no PMQs
Julian Lee
Exhausted economy.
The political will to keep the Empire had gone.
Huge debts.
Adrian Fisher
Hope that Hammond gets buttblasted on the Single Market. It would be better for us in the long run if the Germans out-debated us on this point.
Jonathan Sanders
'Murica wanted our Empire. They took half our fucking military bases, then forced us to give up our empire.
If Churchill won a second term right after the war, and Unthinkable happened, we would still be the strongest nation in the world. Sadly Labour fucked it all up as usual.
Gavin Stewart
I've only caught one ep this series, timeslot isn't great. I used to love Robot the Bruce, it was just a rectangle but it had the most insane pushing power. Is there anything like that in the final?
Nolan Ross
TR2-Apollo final pretty much confirmed.
David Morales
Ahh yes it's more to do with the NHS and a gew nationalised industries than losing the largest empire the world has ever seen with a huge labour and resource base....
Julian Martin
An economic historian called Eichengreen goes into a fair amount of detail.
There are a few things you have to remember, firstly Japan and Germany had always had the capacity for larger economies than ours. This was shown in the run up to WWI when German pig iron production began to surpass ours. After WWI the economic relationship between us and the empire had also radically changed and imperial preference was no longer an option since they had been exposed to outside markets in our absence.
As for WW2 itself, you have something called economic catch-up, their economy could be rebuilt from the ground up using American techniques of mass production etc. imported from America. This was helped by the fact that actually, despite the destruction of Berlin in the final battle only about 25% of German industry was severely damaged. Much of it was up and running again in a matter of months.
If you want to know more see the above Economist.
Since Marshall Aid often gets brought up I'll say this as well, German recovery started in 1946, 2 years before Marshall Aid began to come in. It helped but did not start the recovery.
Long post but I'm sick of memeing today. /po/s ignorance has pissed me off today in other threads.
Jace Butler
Mostly spinning blades and flippers. No space for robots without weapons these days.
Anthony Young
What do y'all think will happen to Labor after Jeremy wins again?
Will he make good on his not so veiled threats to purge the neoliberals from the party? Or is it just going to be another year of futile in-fighting?
Aiden Williams
I obviously meant Sup Forums, nothing against paper craft.
>/po/s ignorance has pissed me off today in other threads.
Yeah fucking paper folding cunts
Aaron Price
Hopefully the blairites will all fuck off and either: 1) make their own party 2) join the Libdems
Wyatt Edwards
>match called off because they destroyed the arena wall
Banter
Mason Gray
I think someone's sabotaged my weights brit/pol/
Basically, I usually OHP 30kg (yes i am new to lifting). But today I picked up the weight and it felt more like 25kg. What do I do? Who would have done this?
Chase Turner
>shockwave dead within seconds
Luke Reed
>This really annoyed me lads Why?
Oliver Collins
maybe you're just getting stronger
Noah Cooper
Just to add, obviously in comparison our economy was very mature and we had to use normal means of modernising our economy, we could not wipe the slate clean like these other counties.
This explains the enormous growth in the 1960's in Germany, it should be remembered though that Britain did have a good 60's economically, standards of living rose in huge strides with disposable income leading to the development of a youth culture.
>going on reddit >going on the UK politics sub reddit
What did you expect?
Andrew Wright
I had roast chicken :3
Henry King
Miss based thread. End up in FAGGOT THREAD.
Gavin Morgan
I've got a big .txt where I've saved various Sup Forums posts about British culture specifically for this sort of (unfortunately common) situation, but I don't even see the point in arguing with these historically illiterate turds.
Angel Hall
Because we were already in front of most of Europe. Those other "mircales" were miraculous because they went from zero to something.
John Cox
Germany was destroyed much more, and thrived The fact that you lose your colonies, with barely any war, is an economic advantage (France fought lenghty wars post WW2, and kept investing in costly colonies while rebuilding)
Both Germany and France were better off than Britain in the 60's
Andrew Powell
No pics but I had home made sweet and sour chicken
Brody Fisher
...
Liam Morales
Post dinner then.
Aiden Jackson
>/r/unitedkingdom
Chase Rodriguez
We've all finished our tea lad.
Samuel Jackson
Clearly written by a university student with a thesaurus
Also the fact that the rest of the fucking thread got downvoted into oblivion because another Remainer said to get it over with so the uncertainty ends.
Isaiah Mitchell
So lads, what papers does an informed person need to read?
Right now I pick up: >The Spectator & The Newstatesman I think it's important to read across the political spectrum, and I think these two to be the most respectable of their respective wings.
I used to read The Guardian and The Telegraph, but stopped because they've turned to trash/
Ian Scott
These: are correct, and to further add, we immediately adopted the "post-war consensus" under the Labour landslide after WW2, which essentially was a belief in a massive welfare state and an adoption of Keynseianism, thus we subsidised and nationalised our industry, destroying competition and ensuring they would be backward and inefficient until the 80s.
As to what what transformed the usually frugal, skeptical and stoic Britons to seeking an overbearing government, I don't know.
Christopher Martinez
Post supper then.
Matthew Phillips
America completely cucked us. Then again in Suez.
It's really quite pathetic how fucking subservient we have been to them post-ww2.
We weren't allowed into the EU in the late 60s because de Gaulle saw that we were an American trojan horse. Given how hard we pushed for TTIP and other Neoliberal policies across the continent so hard over the years he was quite right all those years.
Jaxon Lewis
Private Eye
Nathaniel Jenkins
Should I shave off my beard?
Dylan Stewart
Socialists wanted the empire gone...
Germany developed raidly because they pursued free market ideas from a low starting point.
Camden Martinez
Yes, you terrorist
Nathan Perry
Quite tasty to scarf down
Eli Richardson
Yes, no one thinks it looks good
Grayson Thompson
Unlike you yanks, we don't eat 2 fucking dinners.
Aiden Lopez
Post pics
John Hughes
Not in one go. Do it over a few days trying out different styles.
Michael Young
Most posts seem to be supporting the idea that there is a British culture.
Hudson Long
>eating chips Are you 10 or something?
Dominic Robinson
No, you just have second breakfast instead.
Michael Walker
>calling them chips on britpol fuck off burger
Juan Collins
I did the other day, I left the moustache until the end but worried I looked too Mosleyesque so I shaved it off.
Landon Cook
Speak for yourself, some of us have a post-tea snack
Zachary Wright
I for one enjoy my comfy hobbit lifestyle
Samuel Hernandez
>carbide getting shit on
Getting interesting lads
Jordan Nelson
I identify as a 10 year old, yes
Jose Diaz
>chips triggered t b h
Carter Martinez
I'm as American as the guy who plays House.
Austin Lee
Hugh Laurie would never call a hula hoop a chip
Leo Cook
Get Jeeves to fix your flag.
Xavier Bell
He's a toff, he'd probably call it a loopy-crunchie.
Elijah Jenkins
Your politics are a little confusing to me.
If some rando Blairite wanted to abandon Labor, could he be de(re?)selected by his local constituency before his party change become official?
Seems fucked if you vote for a party in your local elections and then the MP decides to jump ship and there's no mechanism in place to contest his decision.
Jeremiah Powell
Lads, were suicide rates higher 50+ years ago than they are today?
Henry Jackson
Oh do go away, Aunt Agatha. I'll say 'what ho!' to whomever I please.
Kevin Anderson
Apologies for sweaty hair/face, only pic I have though, and it was just after a long bike ride.
Got work tomorrow and I don't want to go in with a shit goatee or something like that, for me it's either full-face or nothing.
Zachary Mitchell
Chruchill wasn't all that popular during the war believe it or not, many people wanted to appease the nazi's because they couldn't stand the thought of another war with Germany, Churchill was viewed as a mad man more obsessed with his own glory than a protector of Britain during the war. This is unfortunatly a view point that has stuck with revisionists to this day. It was pretty easy in this case for Labour to get into office and ruin Britain for the next few decades.
Mason Adams
Press F for Thor.
Josiah Young
Trim it down to stubble
Kevin Rogers
>ridiculous
Necessary.
>I voted against it
No one cares.
>so did half the country
Less than half actually.
>morally bankrupt
No it isn't.
>intellectually dishonest
And backsliding isn't?
>vouchsafed by idiots
Yes because everyone who disagrees with you is an idiot.
Charles Miller
You look like a communist.
David Perry
No, keep it. It looks good on you. Just trim any loose hairs off and keep it neat.
James Wood
Every year this happens
Michael Anderson
Carbide will win, not much point in showing this final fight
Xavier Ross
Ar Jason DD:
Thomas Martin
Don't do it if you have a weak chin Better to look like a numale beardy fag Than a chinless chubby face child
Christopher Miller
What is wrong with Scots?
Ayden Evans
nigs gonna nig
Dominic Watson
You vote for your MP, not the party they're part of. In reality, though, most people do vote on a party political basis.
Jordan Jackson
You're right that he wasn't popular, but he was considered an ideal war-time Prime Minister.
Churchill loved war, he was supposed to have been jumping up and down with excitement at the start of WW1.
Some people believed that they'd be able to get Churchill as PM with Labour as the majority, like what happened (albeit reversed) in the 30s with Ramsay MacDonald.
And Churchill's popularity doesn't answer the greater question of why there was such a massive swing to a heavily socialist (though it was still British socialism) Labour party.
Daniel Gonzalez
Wrong
David Morgan
CARBIDE BEING BTFO
Levi Baker
Technically no, but it would be considered good form to resign their seat so as to trigger a by-election. This is what happened when Carswell and Reckless defected to UKIP
Cameron Hernandez
Do you mind posting it?
Ryder Watson
My problem is I was tidying it up earlier but was rushing and accidentally shaved a big patch off one of my sideburns, now I think it'll look silly unless I just shave it all off.
I called myself right-wing when I grew it about 6-7 months ago but I have been getting more and more left-wing in the last couple of months if I'm being honest, I think I'm Blue Labour masterrace now.