You are all saying that he's controlled opposition. But he's never identified with alt-right, ever, just talked shit on the left. He kissed Milo but gives him shit for being a Jew and doesn't really like that he's gay.
Idk personally I still like the guy. He knew Vice would be big, but stuck to his moral and political beliefs and left it.
he inspired me to take up the hobbies of table building and refrigerator repair, as those are the hobbies that a real man would have
You should be out there
Living the alt right life
Killing niggers left and right.
I disgust him because hes a fucking leaf.
I like buttplugs too
*kisses you*
he's a fucking leaf, that's why
wasn't he a huge liberal atheist before he had kids?
Gavin McInnes is a fucking faggot who supports drunk driving.
Did anyone hear his story on how he "became" a Catholic? "I was looking at my daughter's foot and was like HOW DOES THAT WORK? So I put two and two together and now I'm a Catholic."
He's actually a fucking moron. He rarely has a clue what he's talking about. He also stuck a dildo in ass on live tv.
This Beardo McBeardface actually did a good video recently explaining why Gavin is a tool
youtube.com
I want to stress that I think he's dumb. He's uniformed and stupid. He might be smarter if he wasn't such a worthless drunk, like I am. Maybe it's a bit of self-loathing being projected onto Gavin, but I'm still smarter and more informed than he is and I also probably drink more.
He claims to be catholic just to gain more support from the right.
He'll say anything and hop on any bandwagon to benefit himself.
He's a talking sack of shit.
Also dildos.
>he never identified with the alt right
That's because the alt right doesn't exist you fucking idiots. It's literally just a new word the left has invented to use against anyone that disagrees with them. It used to be they could just say "oh you don't agree with me? You racist. You sexist" but now they've over used it and more people are seeing through it. Now they're trying to invent a new boogie man so they can say "what?! Holy shit you're one of those alt right guys!" And have everyone in the room join in"
I never understood why he cucked out and let Vice get swept out from under him. he was the owner, right?
>That's because the alt right doesn't exist you fucking idiots. It's literally just a new word the left has invented to use against anyone that disagrees with them
well said, leaf
>alt right doesn't exist
>on an alt right messaging board
you are pic related
>the alt right doesn't exist you fucking idiots
Ban all fucking LEAFS.
hes the "godfather of hipsterdom" I guess Vice became too mainstream for him so he jumped on the conservative bandwagon
Then why was the term created by someone on the right and used by people on the right? Your problem is you don't know what the alt right is. You think people like milo, paul joseph watson, and gavin are alt right. They're not even close. When people on the left are talking about how the alt right is a bunch of nazis and white nationalists, they are not talking about you and your gay little friends, they are talking about actually neo nazis and white nationalists who have been calling themselves alt right well before you ever heard the term.
>implying I approve of any of those faggots
"Alt right" means nothing. It's another shame word made to attack anyone who disagrees with you. You can be a neo nazi, you can be a nationalist, you can be a classic conservative, you can be a libertarian, and you have all those words to describe you. "Alt right" is a faggot term used to lump anyone who isn't progressive enough together to discredit and shame them and If you use it you're giving these people credibility
I don't know why people idolize the dude.
He's funny, but his views are philosophically vacant. Literally his only points of view are:
>Women love being housewives!
>Buy a leather jacket, buy a motorcycle, be a man!
and shit along those lines. I don't disagree with it, but he never says anything that makes me think.
He's just satire.
If he had cartoons, puppets and nifty inserts you would see he's a more radical version of Colbert or Stewart.
Same shit, different bag.
I like the guy, he's right about pretty much everything.
He acts degenerate all the time, though.
Jesus Christ, what projection.
Thanks for proving you don't know what the alt right is. Classic conservatives and libertarians are not alt right. You need to stop watching so much milo, the guy is a subversive moron
Here is from Richard Spencer's site, the guy who coined the term "alt right"
radixjournal.com
Here is from TRS.
therightstuff.biz
Here is something Vox Day put together. Not sure if he considers himself part of the alt right, but this is pretty accurate.
voxday.blogspot.com
Read these so you don't look like such a fucking retard again and confuse other people
Right now it seems his goal is to get Trump elected. I'm all for whatever helps him accomplish this.
I also enjoy his interview with a feminist.
I don't know much else about him. If his antics helps Trump then I'm all for it.
thats a good picture of yourself
you should listen to your leafbro
no just chink leafs like you need bans
based maple syrup chuggers are based
When you want to tell someone that he can make the right look bad by association
>But dubs
user, I'll trust you on this one.
Is this the guy that shoved shit up his ass? Why are all the Alt Right figure heads so fucking guy? First Milo now this...
omg ty family desu tbqh. i really like my hair
>False idols
Follow based Jahansnism for freedom!
so you embrace that obvious scapegoat label?
It amazes me how much having kids can change someone, a mate of mine was a right shit back in the day but as soon as he had a kid he but the effort into being a more decent person.
>White heterosexual male supports the alt right in the media
"You damn bigot!"
>White gay male supports the alt right
"Now, I'm not saying this because you're gay, and I feel the need to stress that, but I respectfully disagree with your opinion."
Gavin is a good gateway drug and pretty funny desu. He also does really good when it comes to finding guests, I've heard of some really interesting as fuck people because of his show.
Only people with a problem with him are sperglords committed to 100% ideological purity and retards who get all their info from youtube compilations.
I embrace it because I believe in the principles. You don't have to embrace it because it has nothing to do with you. Call yourself something else.
Milo is a fucking faggot and I don't watch him. Thanks for proving you let liberal media tell you what you are. Might as well just start agreeing and saying you're a racist too since that's what they call you
Autists hate Gavin because he actually lived a life outside his Moms basement. He's a living legend and I'm naming my unborn son after him desu
There are no fucking principals you retard. It is not a thing. It is not a belief system. It is not a philosophy. It's a fucking word used to lump people together and make a common enemy. There is no such thing as an alt right belief. Holy fuck you're retarded
>Thanks for proving you let liberal media tell you what you are
This is like saying you are not a conservative or whatever the fuck you call yourself because that is what the liberal media calls conservatives. That's incredibly stupid.
>Might as well just start agreeing and saying you're a racist too since that's what they call you
Depends on your definition of racism. If you mean I recognize differences between races and that some races are better at certain things, then yes I am also a racist.
White nationalists are the ones who gave themselves the label "alt right". Richard Spencer is a white nationalist and he's the one who created the term and popularized it. Also the alt right does in fact call itself racist, since they recognize that the word is meaningless and holds no power over them.
Keep being terrified of "muh liburuhl meedeeya" and the naughty no-no words that they call you though.
You clearly didn't even read the stuff I posted. No one is talking about you when they mention the alt right. Let it go. It's not your thing
>"he compared it to the alt-right but without all the racism. PUSSY!"
>"He thinks quoting FBI statistics is racist, LOL"
As if distancing your argument from the rampant racism on these boards is a bad thing. You guys realize the voting population isnt okay with the average post here, right? You arent going to sway anyone when you're associated a bunch of anonymous fuckwits who will constantly say nigger, (((jew))), faggot, etc. when reciting crime stats or picking apart culture. Gavin uses statistics all the time, but he knows not to fucking ostracize literally every person in his audience.
>"Proud boys sounds totally pussy"
This is more of a personal argument, but to stand on it and refer to it as an actual argument is dumb as fuck. He sounds like a whiny bitch with how much he CONSTANTLY calls everything pussy.
>"Its pathetic to tell people not to jerk off"
Its pretty sad to get to a point where, yeah, people dont know they shouldnt, but why not tell them? So much of our generation has checked out of dating and sex, and if not sitting front of a screen, cumming to pixelated degeneracy will maybe get young men and women to get out and socialize, why is that fucking bad?
>"They say they're libertarian. PUSSY LOL"
I dont really think Proud Boys is about politics to begin with. Its about culture. The libertarian stance is to attract people in. More people from the left will jump to libertarian as they're enlightened before openly being anything close to conservative. Not making it full blown political is good.
>"We have Milo, hahah. B-but we dont really have Milo, he leached onto muh alt-right"
Backtracking because HE knows how vindictive you autists are about the smallest personal thing. What a PUSSY LOL.
>LOL dildo up the ass. Milo kiss!? Too far!
Its weird as fuck, yeh. But I honestly dont care. I cant believe how insanely butthurt all of you have gotten over this shit. Its fucking sad.
yes i also believe in principles but I don't embrace labels.
"Alt Right" was a very obvious attempt to paint a broadstroke over anyone that does not conform to establishment indoctrination.
So I think as much as you might like the label that it ultimately pidgeonholes you into something that might not accurately describe yourself or take into consideration an individual's own political/social/moral evolution.
Just because you think Sup Forums invented the concept of the alt-right doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Don't be a fucking idiot, Jamal. As hard as that might be.
>Just because you think Sup Forums invented the concept of the alt-right doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
I don't remember telling you or anyone in this thread in what I believe. But obviously you know more about me than I do so please inform me.
>Don't be a fucking idiot, Jamal. As hard as that might be.
uhhhhhmmmm transphobe much?
i identify as basketball american just like the great shaun king
>"Alt Right" was a very obvious attempt to paint a broadstroke over anyone that does not conform to establishment indoctrination.
This is wrong. Plain and simple.
This is correct. Plain and simple.
There is no debate to be had about this. You're simply wrong, and if you took the time to read about the alt right, you would come to the same conclusion
>So I think as much as you might like the label that it ultimately pidgeonholes you into something that might not accurately describe yourself or take into consideration an individual's own political/social/moral evolution.
It does accurately describe. I am a white nationalist and my beliefs clearly fall in line with those of the alt right. And frankly, it is better to be known as alt right than it is to be known as a white nationalist. The only people who seem to be upset with this label are libertarians and anti establishment conservatives. This is a good thing, as you are not part of the alt right and no one in the alt right wants anything to do with you. Stop telling other people what to do. We are better at this than you are
White nationalists have the label white nationalist. White nationalist describes there beliefs. Alt right describes nothing. Alt right is not a belief system. Alt right means "doesn't hold acceptable opinions to the left" it's just a fucking boogie man and if you attribute this to yourself or lend it ant credibility you're a retard who is giving the left even more power
Where are you coming up with this shit. It's so goddamn retarded. Read Vox Day's take on the core principles of the alt right. He did a good job explaining it for normies like you. Tell me this doesn't sound like white nationalism:
voxday.blogspot.com
>This is wrong. Plain and simple.
That sounds a little like those who might like to tell you what is the right way to think.
>Stop telling other people what to do.
Did I tell you what to do? I was merely saying that maybe the label might not be justified. If you say you are white nationalist then go ahead. I just think this "Alt Right" label was conveniently timed as a scapegoat by those who don't have any of our interests in mind.
>We are better at this than you are
Did I say who I was? I think some of your principles might have a lot of sense in them.
Richard Spencer came up with the term, not the liberal media. Why do you insist that is not true?
How about working on cars?
Putting quotations around the word "alt-right" perfectly spells out exactly what you mean.
Dude you've already had sources linked ITT where members of the OG alt right (not opportunist frauds like gavin mccuck or milo) describe exactly what their belief system is. There is a very real community of people with very real beliefs that they agree upon who have been calling themselves "the alt right" for far longer than your precious media boogeyman has. And no, the term "white nationalist" does not cover the full scope of the alt right's beliefs (although it is a core tenet) which is why the term alt right came about in the first place.
Stop being so terrified of the left and stop overstating their power. The people are the alt right are the ones who came up with the label alt right and it's been around for a lot longer than you think.
okay spencer came up with it then. But who has popularized the term and why?
I'm sorry I don't follow. What did I mean?
I'm not trying to be difficult I just really don't know what you are getting at.
If you were active on Twitter you would see a huge group of people that identify as the Alt-right
>But who has popularized the term and why?
People on the alt right because they want more people to become acquainted with their views. Liberal media only picked it up after it became popular because it was becoming too popular to ignore. The first mainstream outlets to start writing about it were conservative outlets like National Review.
>far longer than your precious media boogeyman has
if you are not aware I suggest looking up operation mockingbird
yes because we know twatter would never make up shit to confirm their narrative
The alt right popularized the term just like the alt right popularized the pejorative "cuckservative". Just like the alt right (The Daily Shoah specifically) popularized the Jewish echo meme.
Just because you're a low agency faggot doesn't mean everyone on right is. The alt right is a homegrown movement, they popularized themselves. This isn't some liberal invention, the term itself doesn't even come from liberals it comes from the alt right itself. I'm guessing what's going on here is you and the leaf simply weren't aware of the alt right, neither the movement nor even the term, and so right now you think it was just something that was invented out of thin air to tie a disjointed group of people together. Understand: it's not a new term, it's not a new movement, it is very cohesive and it embraces its own labels and its own in-group vernacular.
>sources
>on a political label
You guys are idiots. I could show you a hundred sources thst being a white nationalist makes you a racist nazi kkk member yet that still wouldn't be true because this is not what sources do. I'll show you a source thst brexit was racist and it's still just an opinion
this is a national socialist board, not an " alt right "
>People on the alt right because they want more people to become acquainted with their views. Liberal media only picked it up after it became popular because it was becoming too popular to ignore. The first mainstream outlets to start writing about it were conservative outlets like National Review.
Okay yes for conservatives or people looking at alternative media okay, I will concede that point.
But, the vast majority of Americans and the World had no idea about the term until Hillary pointed out the term. So I would argue that the MSM ultimately brought the term into household use. See massive influx of shitty MSM pretending they know what alt right is.
So then there is no such thing as a political belief because we can't trust any sources even those coming straight from the horse's mouth. Makes sense.
>tell me this doesn't sound like white nationalism
Because it is fucking white nationalism. That's what it is. It's not alt right. Alt right is nothing. It's just a "you're either with us or against us" tactic the left is using to demonize more people.
>But he's never identified with alt-right,
He's identifies with the Alex Jones Alt Right, which is more or less the Mainstream Alt.
>is a massive sexual deviant and attention whore who spouts right wing talking points
>claims not to be "alt right"
LOL okay then
Please keep it civil. And also see my point here
>this is a national socialist board, not an " alt right "
nationalism definitely has a place here but many who seriously post would not accept either of those labels
>But, the vast majority of Americans and the World had no idea about the term until Hillary pointed out the term. So I would argue that the MSM ultimately brought the term into household use. See massive influx of shitty MSM pretending they know what alt right is.
I will concede on this. This is subversion though. That does not mean we should give up now. It means we need to fight harder.
>he's never identified with alt-right, ever,
He has, many time, on his show. GTFO of here, retard.
Justin, you're such a fag
>biting into the "controlled opposition"
you probably believe in "conspiracy theories" too goy?
There is such thing as political beliefs, there is no political belief go alt right. Every belief described by alt right is already named and defined and this alt riff describes can directly contradict each other. They'll call a fascist alt right in the same breath they call an an cap alt right. When in reality one is just a fascist and one is just an an cap. They're already defined. To accept this giant umbrella term is just go say "look we're all your enemy" so the left can dismiss more opinions and demonize more people because they're all just alt right and alt right is bad so you don't have to listen to them
I didn't say you should give up. Please stand up for what you believe in.
I am simply pointing out that establishments over a long course of history really like their scapegoats and boogeymen.
Sup Forums was never party affiliated. It was always neutral on everything. The only thing that matters is lulz/keks
Praise kek
You make yourself very obvious.
Either contribute to the conversation or stay and educate yourself.
> my autistic political ideology isn't made up!
You are exactly why I'm pro-baby-scrambling because you should have been aborted.
hes a racemixer
thats all you really need to know about Gavin
MSM misrepresenting the movement is completely different from your earlier implication that they are the ones who invented/popularized it. Right wing ethnic nationalists founded the movement, invented the term, gladly call themselves that term, and popularized the term. There has been reporting on the "alt right" for almost two years now, Hillary just now making a speech about it does not mean it is some new label that the liberal media invented. In fact it means quite the opposite of what you're implying, it means the alt right has been so successful at growing its movement and popularizing its label that now even the most surface-level politicians feel it must be addressed.
He's a loud mouthed faggot, some material is good but he loses me with the milo-tier attention whoring faggotry.
worse is that it's an ugly mail order thing
part owner along with Shane Smith
I think Vice went public, so you can get jewed out of your own company if you dont retain enough. Like Steve Jobs
>I am simply pointing out that establishments over a long course of history really like their scapegoats and boogeymen.
We knew this was coming. I embrace being the boogeyman. We want to get our views out there. We just need to do our best to control the narrative which is basically what I am doing now. No one thinks it will be an easy fight.
He is entertaining and is anti-nuovo males.
Plenty enough for me.
/po/ just wants a swastika waving crazy.
mcinnes and milo are trash for different reasons. drop both. but mcinnes is much, much worse than milo. mcinnes is a Catholic agent, like a Jesuit.
It's a board to be pollitically inncorrect. How long have you even been coming on Sup Forums, it always made racist stuff but it was for jokes. You realize this is a comedy website right
buffoone
You really didn't read my point did you. I even conceded to the other self identifying alt right poster on the origin of the term.
The MSM made it mainstream to paint everyone on this board and elsewhere with a broadstroke.
If you are not familiar please look up operation mockingbird.
And please reread my point
Okay then embrace being a boogeyman while standing up for your beliefs but...
>We just need to do our best to control the narrative which is basically what I am doing now. No one thinks it will be an easy fight.
That is a very uphill battle that unless you have hoards of cash or a media monopoly I don't think anyone will have success in controlling "their" narrative.
>what do I do with all these poorly made tables?
Mail order thing? Is she eastern european or something?
Gavin didnt eben got skol lolol
Hes a retard desu shoved a buttplug in his ass during livestream
He is alt right
So you're saying the liberal media is intentionally misinterpreting and misrepresenting right wing ideals? Wow, what a revelation!
If that low level baby aspirin "redpill" was your entire point then I've been wasting my time dealing with someone who probably couldn't even keep up with an infowars disqus thread. But hey as long as you aren't a complete retard like the leaf who thinks the alt right was completely invented out of thin air by the media and doesn't actually exist or represent anything then i guess we're good.
Shes native american, retard.
No, he's a Briton who went to high school in Canada.
People are losing faith in the MSM. Fash the Nation is a pretty popular podcast, and we do a pretty damn good job on twitter. We're also right, so that helps a lot. If we can get Richard Spencer on Fox or Jared Taylor to debate someone on CNN, who knows what will happen. A Trump presidency will also help immensely since he shares many of our views on things like immigration, trade, and foreign intervention. The GOP is in shambles, and someone will need to pick up the pieces.
>So you're saying the liberal media is intentionally misinterpreting and misrepresenting right wing ideals? Wow, what a revelation!
I was pointing it out because it really seemed lost on you based on your comments. Also, there are plenty of newfriends here that I believe need some education.
>If that low level baby aspirin "redpill" was your entire point then I've been wasting my time dealing with someone who probably couldn't even keep up with an infowars disqus thread.
No I am not familiar with the infowars disqus thread. Please enlighten me.
Also if you are basing all of your opinions off a single outlet I have really bad news for you.
He stuck a dildo in his ass live on air