>What language are you learning? >Share language learning experiences! >Help people who want to learn a new language! >Find people to train your language with!
Learning resources: First and foremost check the Sup Forums wiki (feel free to contribute) >4chanint.wikia.com/wiki/The_Official_Sup Forums_How_to_Learn_A_Foreign_Language_Guide_Wiki
Check pastebin.com/ACEmVqua for plenty of language resources as well as some nice image guides.
/lang/ is currently short on those image guides, so if you can pitch in to help create one for a given language, don't hesitate to do so!
Torrents with more resources than you'll ever need for 30 plus languages:
Should I learn Afrikaans if I like Rhodesian and South African history? I wanted to do Russian or Chinese, but it's a bit intimidating and Afrikaans seems like a good place to learn the basics of how a language and language acquisition works.
Kayden Russell
Learn what you what you enjoy the most. If you're forcing yourself to learn a lang you're just going to end up quitting. Eurofags need to keep this thread alive while we sleep.
TRANSLATION CHALLENGE >More than machinery we need humanity. More than cleverness we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. The aeroplane and the radio have brought us closer together. The very nature of these inventions cries out for the goodness in men, cries out for universal brotherhood, for the unity of us all. -Charlie Chaplin, The Great Dictator
Nolan King
>posting le meme far right woman
Joshua Parker
bu,p
Adrian Kelly
Hủaq go pó báq kẻa fi pó báq rẻq lî chỉa súqjī da. Ru hủaq go lî mỏijōe na lî pảigī ru lî rủogōaq da. Shè pó sia hói hủaq bi, tủe hỉao báq tủe mỉe na, ru shải báq tu gí da. Cả jẻaq chẻo jủi go súqjī pó báq rỉochāo ga ru pó báq rảdīo da. Cải sủe báq lủ rỏajēo hói mủ fỉeq na túq rẻq lî shảogī ru lî chẻo sỏa ru lî chẻo jẻq da.
>ruogoaq A is gentle to B >roajeo A is naturally B
Landon Turner
What language is this?
Brayden Perez
Mandarin but i stuck on intonations.
Levi Johnson
Started Korean some time ago, going through few vocab courses on memrise and started TTMIK lessons
Jack Smith
Second bit was a bit too hard for me, but first four sentences >More than machinery we need humanity. More than cleverness we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. The aeroplane and the radio have brought us closer together. بیشتر از دستگاه ها بشریت را لازم داریم. بیشتر از هوش, مهربانی و خوش خیمی را. بی اینها ویزگی ها , زندگی پرخشونت خواهد بود و همه گم خواهد شده. هواپیما و رادیو ما با هم را نزدیکتر آورده است .
I then tried to vocaroo it but I kept tripping over all the new words ;_;
William Garcia
Plutôt que machinerie nous avons besoin de humanité. Plutôt que sagacité nous avons besoin de gentillesse et douceur. Sans ces qualités, la vie deviendra violente et la bonne volonté sera perdue. L'avion et la rádio ont diminué les distances parmi les gens. La propre nature de ces inventions demontre la bonne nature chez les hommes, elle aussi appelle pour la fraternité universelle et pour l'unité de tous.
Michael Richardson
do you already know Hanja?
Brayden Price
No
Nathan Martinez
Can any Indiabros help me improve my Hindi? I can read and write and understand a fair amount, but my vocabulary is still rather small.
and hopefully without sounding like a shill I recommend the youtuber Matt vs Japan, good content about language immersion (based on Japanese but applicable in general)
Zachary Morgan
I've learned English so far lurking on chans and playing TIBIA. r8 mee m8
Tyler Reyes
*so far by lurking Really good desu. English is a really simple language but has retarded rules.
Levi Cruz
cool m8 dunno why you responded to that post specifically though..?
Michael Flores
It's good for learning extremely basic vocabulary and nothing else.
Luis James
its correct, ignore duolingo
btw when the sentence is something like >ezek előtt az iskolák előtt .... we usually just say >ezek az iskolák előtt ....
Jason Carter
Report and they will fix it.
Thomas Fisher
All the Duolingo Hungarian volunteers have quit. No one will fix anything
Chase Mitchell
:)) Thanks
John Miller
>cars >standing
Maybe you were marked wrong because the verb stand isn't usually used for cars?
Kayden Brown
Ich gedenken dein Deutsche ist sehre Gut! Behalt an Gehen!
Gabriel Diaz
Have s'more then Also I'm working on some unconventional learning strategies, will post soon-ish
I can definitely vouch for everything here. In fact, that website is the foundation on which /djt/'s guide is made from >dude just speak the language bro who cares if you make mistakes lmao That, is what the website is advising against when it says 'make no mistakes', and to instead pronounce properly from day 1, no buts no ifs.
Mehr als Maschinerie brauchen wir die Menschheit. Mehr als die Klugheit brauchen wir Freundlichkeit und [?]. Ohne diese Qualitäten, wird das Leben heftig und alles wird verloren sein. Das Flugzeug und das Radio hat uns näher zusammen gebracht. Das Wesen dieser Erfindungen schreit nach der Güte der Menschen, schreit nach der [?] Bruderschaft, für die Vereinigung von uns allen.
This one killed me, had to look up a bunch of verbs and nouns, although that's how you learn these things anyway.
Joshua Davis
Looks like Vietnamese
Zachary Evans
looks to be toaq (a conlang)
Ethan Jenkins
Except that's an awful advice, of course you want to make as few mistakes as possible but for beginners and intermediary learners that's simply not possible because there are too many grammar rules, vocabulary and exceptions that constitute a language.
That's the mistake most language learners do, they focus too much on having perfect sentences and they end up being able to only make basic sentences after months of studying because they feel like they are never ready to make new steps, except learning a language isn't about learning vocabulary lists and applying grammar points to them. And the more they try to learn perfectly the less efficient they are in their language learning. MOST UNDERRATED AND COMMON MISTAKE = STICKING TO THE BEGINNER BOOKS TO LONG
Of course it doesn't mean "lmao who cares", you still have to be curious and to check if you are writing or pronouncing words properly, but as long as you regularly check what you are doing you don't need to learn perfectly everything, 20% will stick automatically and you can try to learn the rest consciously, if you hit a 60% to 80% rate of recognition then you are fine you don't need to go higher you can go to the next material.
Brains are the most efficient when there is repetition, novelty and interest. By trying to not make mistakes from the get-go you cut yourself from novelty and interest. The result is that you make your language learning experience painful and inefficient, if you try to actively memorize all the grammar and vocab you encounter you might manage to learn 80% of it and then the 20% that are left will be incredibly painful to learn you will keep forgetting them again and again, because your brain will be fed up from the repetitions.
Language learning isn't about learning a set of rules and applying them. It's about learning a way of speaking/thinking, it's about automatisms and behaviours.
You're very passionate about language learning. Keep on going
Joshua Anderson
That's typically how people burnout on Anki, they want to be cool, they put a 25/50/100word limit. They do well at first, but learning a word means forgetting it 3 to 4 times. So after a few days or weeks, they realise that they forgot most of the words yet the words keep adding up but they are also bored because anki is a very raw it's not a pleasant way of learning a language especially if you overdo it. They keep doing because "I'm not like the other memelords" then eventually they reach 10% of their base objective and they get disappointed and stop. OR they reduce it to a ridicule thing like 5 words a day, it's not challenging, there isn't enough novelty, by the end of the week they broke the streak.
What works best to learn a language ? A good method that you enjoy doing. That's basically it, anki works, the golden rule works, many type of exercise work, and they work particularly well when you enjoy doing them and vary them.
It doesn't mean that everything works, I think that duolinguo sucks, as well as most language learning youtube channel and books. I'm not gonna explain what makes a good method tho cause I have to study now.
But as long as a method stimulates your brain properly, that you know how to use it wisely, and that you didn't force yourself to do it for hours on end then usually you are doing pretty good. With that, at the intermediary level just farm manga/show/novel/movies/series in the language you are learning. And for advanced learners read books, I mean literature, not some light novel, because you need to be used to non casual forms of the language which is pretty hard to do.
Mas que maquinaria necesitamos humanidad. Mas que inteligencia necesitamos bondad y gentileza. Sin esas cualidades, la vida sera violenta y todo se perderá. El avión y la radio nos han unido. La naturaleza de esas invenciones llama a la bondad en los hombres, llama a la hermandad universal, por la unidad de todos nosotros.
Colton Powell
Lol that’s retarded, children make tons of grammatical mistakes when they are young
Making mistakes is important - you are never going to know 100% your target language from day one. I didn't for Ithkuil - but that shit didn't stop me
I just reached a bit of a milestone today. After ~200 private calls on HelloTalk on my record I had my first call with 2 French cuties at the same time. They were both checking out the app because one was recommending it to the other one that was over for a visit. I convinced one of them to have a call with my usual routine, we talked together and I managed to impress both of them with my French. Awesome.
Ryder Morgan
I'm looking for a German language news website with somewhat easy/intermediate language. It goes without saying that it has to be from Germany (Hochhdeutsch) and no tabloids, kids news or websites with oversimplified articles (like those from nachrichtenleicht). Something standard and not too hard. I've been looking over Die Zeit and Deutschland.de, do you guys have any suggestions?
Blake Sanders
How much difference is there between Ukrainian and Russian?
Andrew Baker
Soon you will lose your virginity
Colton Wood
Die Bild
James Russell
Should I learn Afrikaans just because?
I probably won't use it, but I heard it's extremely easy to learn
Isaiah Roberts
very little. i remember meeting a Ukrainian guy who shared some sort of Ukrainian biscuit with me. I looked at the package and said jeez this looks a lot like Russian. He got so upset and insisted that they are NOT the same and indeed there are many great differences between the two despite the fact that they can speak their own languages and understand each other just fine. It just stunk of a sense of inferiority.
Brandon Hall
Don't you think it was just to reaffirm his nationality, kinda like croatians do towards serbians? I remember reading here that ithey are quite similar, kinda like spanish and portuguese.
Connor Ward
>Don't you think it was just to reaffirm his nationality
yes absolutely. it reminded me of how canadians pretend they are different from americans
Carson Powell
bump
Gavin Hill
Pls don't die. I want this thread to be here when I wake up since my ex won't be
Jackson Parker
This thread isn't for your pity parties
Robert Cooper
It was just a bump with some flavor, friend
Wyatt Ramirez
what language should I learn if I want to read the best books and watch better than okay movies
Isaiah Walker
English
Logan Perez
...
Kevin James
Alright alright, fair enough lads. Second best
Asher Perez
youtube.com/watch?v=WJyzs12NCAI Can someone tell me what the chorus (1:07) is? "Sicherheit, für die ganze Welt, sicherheit [???] Eis"
Also the updated version is way better but I can't find it on YT
>can't read any text in a browser without zooming in on the page a fuck ton
KEK
Adrian Ramirez
Why do you want to learn french if you have a distaste for it? You'll be better off learning a language you are passionate about
Eli Hughes
I should learn French but I kinda deny doing so. I think I acquired some type of apathy for France from someone who I used to hate, and since the person in question liked French things, I unconsciously started disliking everything related to France. Pure autism. I need help. Pls someone encourage me.
Alexander Gonzalez
I don't think apathy is the word you want
Brody Morgan
Or deny
Connor Brooks
boink
Joseph Cruz
Every second I study Dutch I worry that I that would be enjoying German more.
Charles Jones
Unless you have a reason to learn Dutch I'd recommend German. While German is harder (or rather, Dutch dropped a lot of annoyance that made German is hard), Dutch is harder to pronounce and its speakers are fewer in number and more likely to speak English anyway
Parker Russell
Good resources for learning French? Other than Duolingo... (learning a romance language through English when you're already romance-native is kind of ass backwards)
Google the best textbooks for French and pirate a PDF; whenever you learn a new concept do all of the exercises, find more online and keep doing them until you understand it
Nathan Ward
bumpe
David Johnson
It was a meme but i have to say youre too nice for Sup Forums ;_;
Eli James
Guys, recommend me a good Russian book (in term of content) for B1 level Russian learner. It's mostly so I can learn how normal people talk like.
Anyone here ever learn a language through your 2nd or 3rd language? This is one of my goals, but I'm not sure which one I want to use to learn the new one. Got a few years left at least.
Colton Mitchell
Is there a good mouseover dictionary for languages other than Japanese? I imagine if I spent less time on dictionary lookups, I'd be able to read more.
Connor Rodriguez
Are you interested in learning a language?!?!!? Look no further my man! This is a thread dedicated to discussing languages, experiences with learning languages, and helping other learn languages. The first step for you would be to find out what language you want to learn, so do that first. Protip: picking a language based on weak grounds (ie “it sounds cool”, “it will help me find a job”, “i will make money somehow”) will only lead to you giving up because you need strong motivation to be able to keep trudging through the process of language learning, which takes a while. Instead, you should only pick a language that you are GENUINELY interested in.
Aiden Gonzalez
What's the best way to learn vocabulary? My target language is Persian, btw.
Juan Peterson
Assuming you already have a base vocab, read read read, listen listen listen, watch watch watch. Write down shit you don't know, and learn that.
Kayden Taylor
Watch children comics
Parker Sullivan
>Assuming you already have a base vocab Not really, about a hundred words or so.
Lonely Planet's Persian phrasebook and dictionary Teach Yourself Complete Persian (Modern Persian/Farsi)
Ryan Morris
>Teach Yourself Complete Persian (Modern Persian/Farsi) I heard that book is no good. I bought Living Language Spoken World.
Brody Bennett
It's pretty mediocre yeah, but it is what I have. I use a lot of digital resources too anyway. I can also recommend Pimsleur as such and just check out the resources in tinyurl dot com slash persian012
