Why should anyone study philosophy in the 21th century?

Why should anyone study philosophy in the 21th century?

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To make philosophy great again.

Clearly many of the old models aren't as applicable anymore as they don't take into account the unprecedented discourse monopoly held by large media corporations in the information age, or sufficiently address controlled ethical and political polarization.

A new generation of philosophers is needed.

>Why should anyone study philosophy in the 21th century?
It's apparently a good major if you plan on pursuing law

>humanist
>decrying philosophy as pedantic
Why would anyone call this guy a philosopher?

The only relevant subject to learn is the STEM field and medicine. Learning other subjects than those are a waste of time.

Much of everything coming out of academia these days is garbage.

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to better understand a self-indulgent world

Well I'll be damned. A philosopher actually said something insightful.

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>implying anyone can top the genius of Marx, the most relevant philosopher of all time

all intellectual faggotry is a complete waste of time that leads no where. it is mental masturbation for people with too much time on their hands. over socialised retards trying to get to the truth of a universe that is fundamentally unknowable.

all that matters on this earth is god, race and family. everything that is important stems from that, everything that is degenerate seeks to subvert that.

philosophers in the antiquity in medieval eras were mostly scientists too. Philosophy just doesn't make any sense now.

Dennett? Never heard of him. But when i got me degree were weren't reading modern bullshit. I know more Leibnitz than i do tumblr

>psychology
explain conditioning for $
>psychiatrist
deconditioning for $
>neural science
networks, nodes and chemistry for grant $
>philosophy
ignoring conditioning for book $

What a retarded comment to make.

>Today

Philosophy died in the sixties.

Dennnet isn't someone philosophers read. He's in the vein of Nietzsche or Vico. It's humanism--it really hasn't got anything to do with modern philosophy.

The first step of the scientific method is completely philosophical. Before you can craft an experiment, you must have a hypothesis. To have a hypothesis, you must first make a guess on what is going on with some phemenon. That guess, that first step, is completely grounded in speculative human reasoning

philosophers nowadays aren't willing to be controversial. Whats the point of trying to "find the truth" if you play by the political correctness bullshit? It's the lack of courage thats led philosophy departments to just be the caretakers and reviewers of past philosophers who actually had balls.

Philosophy died with Wittgenstein. In fact, only Zizek keeps any of it alive.

>Olivia (((Goldhill)))

The reality is that the Munchhausen trilemma shows clearly that all "truths" are either axioms based on feelings or deduced from the axioms (or circular reasoning or infinite regression).

that sums it all up. Thats literally fucking it. Not that theres anything wrong with that. Its just that the academia-media-publishing industrial complex tries to claim that is can produced anything more (and that it has a monopoly over the ability to do this).

Not to sound autistic but I've been saying this for years. Post-modernism in history is the same, its just mental gymnastics that lead to a warm feeling while everyone around them gets on with their work.

Kill yourself

Wow, he's just now realizing its masturbation.

We've been post-Philosophy for at least 50 years.

Protip: Philosophical concepts can never be verified. This turns everything into competing discourses-- into language games. Socratic intimations and implications were correct all along. Nothing can be defined with certainty. It's pretty Jewish but hard to refute.

Good as intellectual exercise but not much else.

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society is grounded in social values. if you like philosophy and exploring different angles of reasoning, then do it and be better for it. just don't expect anyone to give a shit until you're dead and some liberal faggot professor says your book is good now.

You study philosophy on your own time. The moment you pay some asshole to spout it to you, you've failed to understand the purpose of philosophy.

Philosophical discussion is dead in a 21st century post-modern world.

>Zizek
He does nothing but “concoct cute counterarguments that require neither technical training nor empirical knowledge.”

Zizek is a retard.

so that you don't end up like OP's pic and his le meme science friends

Wrong. It's a waste of time to get a degree in most non-STEM fields, but studying things like philosophy and history on your own time is still valuable

Why can't we have a philsopher-king society?

Yeah fuck Aristotle, paying Plato to teach him like some chump.

Of course the right hand side is a bunch of retards. But the left hand side are just engaging in upper middle class social posturing. Philosophy as it is practised today is completely intertwined with kissing the ass of dead people and obsessing over the history of ideas rather than the ideas themselves in order to portray an image of a cultured person.

Are you retarded?

I'm talking about now.

Maybe for some people, but the same could be said about science or literature or really any field with prestige. There will always be people pretending to show an interest in highbrow topics, but guys like Einstein and Schrodinger did actually have a deep interest in philosophy.

Pretty much everything is self indulgent these days.

My biggest enjoys when I was younger was Philosophy Psychology and Sociology. All of which are complete garbage.

Even the "intellectuals" studying science tend to end up dabbling in the garbage that is "Quantum Mechanics" circle jerking over math equations and pretending it has any relevancy in the physical world.

Just focus on getting money, it's the only thing left that has intrinsic value.

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the fact that some random nobodies nowadays can post quotes from Nietzsche on their fb wall for social points doesn't really say anything about figures like the ones on the left and the euphoric gentlemen on the right, as far as we can tell these people were actually interested in philosophy and understood the context of science

> You study philosophy on your own time. The moment you pay some asshole to spout it to you, you've failed to understand the purpose of philosophy.

That sounds pretty universal, ideas are rarely formed in a vacuum.

Going to university to study philosophy is still a worthy pursuit. Even if it's just to access the resources.

>Daniel Dennett

The guy is not a philosopher. He's a santa claus with a degree in philosophy who travels around to spread the gospel of Atheism™

to him, philosophy is dead, its a major tenet of Atheism™ that Science™ has Replaced™ the entireity of philosophy, past, present, future.

Almost no philosophy enthusiast agrees with his self-loathing vomit.

Well, why -should- anyone do anything?

The common understand of the word -should- means to do what is in one's most self-interest but not at the expense of anyone else.

Philosophy is one of the better way to objectively analyze and rationalize one's problems without religion.

Seems to be pretty straightforward why people might be interested to read up on philosophy every once in a while.

Someone notify the press!!

If I didn't already know that 99% of mankind is functionally retarded, I would wonder why it took so long for basic comprehension of reality like this to set in.

>it's the only thing left that has intrinsic value
only if you are a materialistic peasant though

Sounds like he's taking a page out of Fukuyama's playbook.

Because that's not what humanity actually wants. What mankind actually wants is what we have: a degenerating cesspool of drugs, pornography and spectacle.

Well no shit

actual philosophers are rare and mostly "plagued" people. and for sure you dont become a philosopher when studying memeology where you "learn" or should I say are getting conditioned by the current Zeitgeist.
people will laugh at me but the only person I ever saw who resembles anything a philosopher is millenial woes. you can't be a great thinker or artist without having some sort of self destructive side in you. but thats just my opinion.

Its not about career path. Its about people sucking their own cock to feel like their existence is meaningful

And law is apparently a good degree if you want to be unemployed and/or miserable.

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Because we're heading towards a period of time when there will be a lot of very important but entirely normative and/or metaphysical questions that will need answering. The answers to these questions will shape the future of life forever.

Things like whether an AI counts as a person, whether a mind transferred to a machine is still the same person, whether parents have the right to genetically engineer their children, etc.

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German philosophers like nietsczhe were the last

No one has gone past nihilism

We do - the philosopher kings r jews

Leo strauss

fuck you, STEM makes any every change in this world. You would have been still eating a pig alive without real science. And above all, we wouldn't have Sup Forums

Having a cool meme beard must help keep his "philosophy" cache

Access to resources is all around you. We live in an age where we don't necessarily need to get formal education to be well-versed in whatever particular branch of philosophy you think suits yourself.

Ideas come from vacuums all the time.

Isn't he a relevant analytic?

Alvin Plantinga is the only good living philosopher.

Yes, everyone should be a STEMlord or work in the medical field. That sounds like a very interesting world. Fucking faggot

What's up?

>21th

Lol

ITT: A bunch of retards with Reddit tier intellect talking about things they do not, as likely are incapable of; understanding

to expand your understanding of the concept of humanity, of your ideas of self, fulfillment and ambition. You name it.
Philosophy has been a major driving force in the evolution of western societies, don't disregard it because there aren't related jobs (((although you'd be foolish to pursue a degree in it - doesn't prevent you from studying it and growing as a person)))

he's right you know.

luckily you do with your 9gag intellect.I tip my fedora, good sir.

This is not a reply.

That's a cuck way of saying "hedonist hell storm"

>Neetzsche
>humanism

kek

>marx
>not Adolf Hitler

I have all of dennetts books. They are very good

Like it or not, Dennett is quite influential in the field of philosophy of mind.

*tips stahlhelm*

No.

He is the only good Christian philosopher, I can give you that.

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To understand Language and it's lacking

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common sense philosophy is best philosophy

women studies for men.

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>Philosophy just doesn't make any sense now.

It's just not useful when it's obvious that humanity is only controlled by greed and always will be.

GREED IS GOD

/philosophy

>common sense philosophy is best philosophy
nope

common sense is just familiar learning

and that can be totally wrong

common sense told people that the first dentist to use anesthesia was a witch who deserved to have his practice burned to the ground

le stem is the only thing that matters meme
le if no human was a writer, painter, historian, or architect the world would be great and dandy

Something happened along our recent- past half century- history that corrupted the nature of philosophy and learning. Whereas knowledge and learning is itself an end goal, our capitalist, materialist society injected the notion that every action must be undertaken to increase one's wealth and material well being in order to be considered worthwhile. In this thinking, we've become hollow shells. Wanting something more from life. Being continually unfulfilled by the pursuit of wealth and material things. We're left being spiritually unfulfilled. And without philosophy, or the pursuit of knowledge for it's own sake- we will never fill the gap left in us by capitalistic and materialistic values.

So when you dismiss the study of philosophy as not contributing to one's wealth, you've already interjected materialist, capitalist values into the question thus crippling your own expectations for an acceptable answer. The simple answer is that philosophical pursuit is its own reward.

You dont study philosophy, clearly

How can you be so stupid and then how can you be so even more stupid for writing your stupidity in comment form

>You dont study philosophy, clearly
It's as useful as studying religion.

better to stick with sociology, psychology, and anthropology

On which fucking planet?

>A new generation of philosophers is needed.

I disagree, faggot.

The philosophers are too soft today

They weren't this soft in the ancient era.

Generally academics are too soft, this is because they are cowards and don't dare say the truth.

I know you're obviously triggered but in 2016 STEM > The arts because everyone can call themselves an "artist" but not everyone can say I earned a masters or bachelor of science

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very good point here, the most interesting comment.
But let me tell you that even you're right that capitalism has made only STEM faculties worthwhile, that greed also made our lives much less miserable than they were 2 centuries ago. We're now much healthier and we have luxuries that weren't available unless for the kings and emprors. Money worhsipping and greed proven to be a great thing also.

Guess it's time to make the arts great again

Agreed. Philosophy is the original scientific method. I do wish it was more accessible and less masturbatory.

Having a beard is pretty much Step 1 of becoming a famous philosopher. That or a mustache so large it takes the place of a beard.

>Daniel Dennett
>one of the most famous living philosophers
He should stick to being santa at the mall

>haha fuck philosophy it's so stupid amirite
>guys what the fuck why is our culture completely gone ????
i'm a fucking STEMfag but you people are completely retarded

Out of all of those philosophy is actually the least cucked, because it still requires logic to back up your assertions. Psychology, sociology and anthropology have all been co-opted by the social justice crowd.

t. Philosophy/Psychology double major