No matter who wins, the American people lose

No matter who wins, the American people lose.

>Trump is nothing more than a reality TV star, he is only popular because he's loud, doesn't care about the promises he makes, and prays on the fears of hateful Americans

>Hilary is only popular because she paid off the media and called in tons of political failures

So this is how democracy finally ends, or rather, how democracy is finally exposed as the sham it's been for a long time. It's nothing but money and popularity, no one actually cares about their policies, because they're both fucking insane.

Trump supporters only support him because he makes them feel good.

Hilary supporters only support her because trump scares them.

I honestly don't know how so many people are rallying for one or the other, if you support either of these people, you have been manipulated, neither of them have your best interests in mind unless you're a corporation.

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2 party system.

The final joke is that the president barely even matters. He's basically just the face of the country while congress control everything

There's never going to be drastic change in America. The world isn't suddenly going to get better or collapse. Every president will ultimately just slide along making a few policies here and there. Congress decides everything.

What impresses me is the fact that while congress makes all the big decisions, no one ever seems to talk about or even care about the congressional elections, all they seem to care about is "which party has that 51%", which is just fucking stupid, you can't boil down all the world views in America into two groups, I've met democrats who were hateful assholes, I've met republicans who were caring accepting people. I don't understand. It's so fucking frustrating.

Sometimes I wonder if I stopped following politics entirely if I'd just be a happier person.

Lol I am loving every second of this. I can't wait for the next irrelevant country to declare war on you so they can send you all off to die for no reason.

Then we can breed with your woman.

>being american
>not even once

youtube.com/watch?v=OxOhk4Lk9aE

To clarify: I wasn't endorsing one party over the other or anything, I was just saying that the stereotypes of each party are often subverted in individuals.

In the public eye, democrats should be the liberal accepting party, yet Hilary, who has openly said in the past she is anti-gay, is somehow a democrat?

It almost seems like a party affiliation is nothing but branding.

Jokes on you, due to our completely broken medical system, most of us are too fat or too unhealthy to be drafted!

>>Trump is nothing more than a reality TV star, he is only popular because he's loud, doesn't care about the promises he makes, and prays on the fears of hateful Americans
Do you have a source for that you Brainless Reddit cuck? Why is it that nu-males make claims without source? Is it the low testosterone levels that slow your puny brains? You know what, just fuck off to Reddit, Reddit.

I'm actually fairly certain that aside from actual racists and hate mongers, trump support is mostly an illusion created by some kind of ironic humor and/or trolls.

The medical system isn't the cause of obesity, fucktard

That's exactly right. The overly bureaucratic systems in western governments are deeply flawed, they work alright, but they have problems inherent in people.

The idea that people only care about the superficial government is telling. They think the president decides everything and is to blame for everything and if they want to attack some policies then their hate is directed at police, just look at BLM at the moment.

Another issue showing the problem with people themselves is that the US is supposed to be secular but a non-christian can not be elected President. The people just will not vote for someone who doesn't reference God.

That's because you're an ignorant idiot.

See, that was a reddit tier response. It's so fucking hilarious that redditor fucks think they can pretend that every one of their posts doesn't ooze reddit. There are no smart people on reddit, there are no unique people. They're all fucking morons who sound the same and share the same opinions. Bunch of fucking sheep.

I'll take your bait:

Tell me one real trump policy. When I say "Real" I mean something that will actually happen when he's elected, not this bullshit about building a wall or deporting all the Muslims, neither of which will ever be talked about again if he wins.

A real, executable, policy.

Let's hear it.

>Tell me one real trump policy. When I say "Real" I mean something that will actually happen when he's elected, not this bullshit about building a wall or deporting all the Muslims, neither of which will ever be talked about again if he wins.
Here's one. Spics like you will be W A L L E D OUT.

You missed the part where I said "unhealthy", work on your reading comprehension. I obviously wasn't blaming the medical system for people being fat.

There is nothing preventing a non Christian from running for president. If the people decide they'd rather vote for the other guy who is Christian tough shit thats democracy.

You seem to know a lot about Reddit. Why don't you go back there?

No one can ever answer that question. He doesn't have policies, he is a salesmen and he sells feelings.

Trump is the epitome of "feels over reals", something that ironically, most trump supporters think they're against.

it's really funny to see people hate reddit on the board with the most reddit crossposters

well why can't people vote just like in some parts of europe?
for every major reform have people voting

Which is why democracy is inherently flawed when your voting populace is not intelligent.

How can anybody think the American republic democratic system is in any way fair or just? It's a fucking delusion.

I ignored that because it's fucking stupid. Besides obesity related diseases, people are as healthy as ever. The medical system has only improved.

>Trump doesn't have any policies
>This is what MSNBC told me
>Trump's website which details his policies doesn't exist, that's a Putin conspiracy

This is far more like real democracy.

The political system in America is not designed to allow reform, hell it's not even designed to make voting easy.

Our presidential election, for example, takes place in the middle of the week, for a single day, during a work day.

If the American political system actually wanted people to vote, we'd have the day off work at the very least. I mean christ, we have time off work for the 4th of july, but influencing the future of our country (allegedly) isn't deemed worthy of taking some time off?

>No one can ever answer that question.
It was answer, Pablo. Have fun behind the

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many states have referendums on bills to allow the public to decide, however the federal government does not
it's a difference in how the constitution is designed

Who /democraticdictator/ here?

>mfw no whiny elections
>mfw no parties bitching
>mfw everything is handled for us and we just have to vote for the PAP

Because Washington and the rest thought everyone else was too stupid to make policies and someone smart should be elected to do it instead.

>Trump's website which details his policies doesn't exist, that's a Putin conspiracy

MSNBC is nothing but democrat propaganda, who watches that shit? Who watches ANY news channel anymore? It's all propaganda.

As far as trumps policies page goes...

>One of his first policies is his meme-fuck of a policy, making Mexico pay for a wall.

Off to a good start.

>Economic vision is nothing but a bunch of tax bullshit that every repub says and never does.

>Continues by saying "let's take a look at it" without any real plan.

I will give you one thing, I do agree with him on a single point in it.

>Withdraw from the TPP.

Continuing on... it's nothing but a bunch of nonsense and propaganda.

>Save the coal industry and other industries threatened by Hillary Clinton’s extremist agenda.

Moving on...

>Reform obamacare

This is just fucking stupid, obviously no one thinks obamacare is an ideal solution, but his suggestions would take us backwards, not forward, it's 2016, healthcare should be a right, not a privilege. The medical industry should not be for-profit.

Moving on...

>US and China trade reform

Hilary wants the same thing, basically doesn't matter.

>second amendment rights

Another meme policy.

>Immigration reform

He's recently completely back peddled on this so I'm not even going to talk about it.


All in all, his """POLICIES""" are nothing but extremely safe standard republican propaganda, empty promises, and memes like building a wall or giving you more guns.

He has no policies.

No response? Figures.

I'd really like to hear from a single trump supporter who is capable of holding a conversation and explaining why they support him, as it stands, I'm fairly certain it's just racists and joke-supporters, as I've said.

Hilary isn't much better, but I can at least understand why some people would be stupid enough to support her.

Go to sleep shill

>t. I have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about and have learned everything about the election from buzzfeed and facebook memes

>Shill

You don't know what that word means do you?

Anyone gonna explain to me why they support trump without using feels or memes?

Maybe you should read the part of the thread where I go over trumps """POLICIES"""

Also, if you people actually thought I was "uninformed", you wouldn't be acting like this, you'd be responding to my questions.

You just took the actual truth and reversed it. So, as soon as you start providing actual reason to vote FOR HILLARY instead of against Trump, I'll be waiting with baited breath.

You know his policy for making mexico pay for the wall includes letting mexicans stay within America right?

Read it on his website, his plan is basically "tell mexico to pay for the wall or we will deport illegal mexicans, if they pay for it, we won't"

So, good job showing your own ignorance of your own candidate.

This is satire right? It has to be.

Why would I do that? Have you not been paying attention or do you honestly think I'm a Hilary supporter?

Tbh thats hillary in a nutshell

So I guess the entire 2016 election is just a bunch of idiots and irony then

>non voting edge lord
>Talks to me about politics

Your priories are all fucked up loser.

>No matter who wins, the American people lose.

>It doesn't matter who you vote for

You should do what that loser is about to do in that gif, faggot.

Do a little reading

donaldjtrump.com/positions

> Hilary is only popular because she paid off the media and called in tons of political failures
> called in tons of political failures

You almost underplayed her un-feasibility there, but for the slip of a word, almost.

This is blackpilling.
> OP is a Hillary supporter
> knows its pretty much just Trump supporters here
> So feels free to induce a negative attitude to the elections in general on here, without affecting there own.
Vote Trump, light the fire, Destroy globalization. Destroy the global liberal establishment.

I don't like Reddit but everyone here sounds the same and it's 10x more annoying with all the top kek shit.

The president will likely choose THREE supreme Court justices.

>Look mommy, I just used every buzzword on a Sup Forums reply.

Your post in a nutshell.

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Top kek

Top kek nu male cuck how can u even compete? Based Putin/Asad! Based trunp just btfo this cuck holy kek brother saddam was actually secular XD.

On Hillary....name one good thing she has done in her entire political career (bet you can't think of one) - but she is sure linked to alot of criminal activity - cattlegate, travelgate, the uranium deal, pay to play, all the strange deaths linked to her and the list goes on. She even led a campaign for socialised medicine when her hubby was POTUS - it failed terribly. As a matter of fact, everything she has touched has failed for the people of the USA.
On Trump - he's made fortune on a million dollar loan, started and built many companies. (I've always said we need a businessman as POTUS, not a lawyer or community organizer.) Nobody can link him to anything that is remotely close to the criminal activities of hillary. So when you look at my arguments - who is the clear choice?
Hillary is only out for herself. She would sell us all to make a few dollars and she actually has in the past.
I really think Trump cares about the USA. Alot of his policies make good sense and I'm sure he's in line to make some money with some of his policies, but they are also good for the people of the US.
With hillary, things will only get worse for the US citizen, with Trump at least we'll have a fighting chance.

democracy is a joke, the founding fathers knew this

kek i guess dogs don't do it for you when it is made legal and lost the taboo spice and all that huh?

>Democrats claim to be peaceful
>Democrats claim to be compassionate
>Democrats claim to be against war
>Democrats claim to support Islam

And yet the person they support is a psychopathic maniac killer

youtube.com/watch?v=OqbDBRWb63s [Open] - The Truth About Hillary Clinton's Mental Illness

youtube.com/watch?v=FmIRYvJQeHM [Open] - "We came, we saw, he died! LAUGHS" (Gaddafi)

youtube.com/watch?v=O894bXmqqGU [Open] - Hillary Clinton openly states she wants war with Iran to protect Israel

youtube.com/watch?v=xvhBoF_pCHo [Open] - Hillary laughs maniacally about war with Iran


>Hillary Clinton The Racist

Hillary Clinton calls blacks "super predators" and says they "must be brought to heel."

Hillary Clinton praises Robert Byrd, former recruiter for the KKK.

Hillary Clinton praises Margaret Sanger, a woman who said minorities must be exterminated like weeds.

Hillary Clinton praises Margaret Sanger, a woman who led a quiet campaign of genocide against minorities using abortion.

donaldjtrump.com/positions/pay-for-the-wall

demmy d supports trump
please dont use his gif for this faggotry

>Trump is nothing more than a reality TV star, he is only popular because he's loud, doesn't care about the promises he makes, and prays on the fears of hateful Americans

I think what you meant to say was

>I'm an underage faggot with no political knowledge who's trying to be relevant
Trump has been a household name in America since the 90s and turned a decent brand into one of the most well known and successful in the country. How about you try actually studying about the politicians you're crying about through real resources and not just Facebook memes?

Finally you get it.
>inb4 Drumpfarts call you a shill for not kissing boots of their Orange God

>No matter who wins, the American people lose.

Welcome to every election in US history.

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Trump is a T.v star that the people will support.

Hillary is someone where majority of t.v. And movie stars support just so people can vote for her.

Please elaborate further. Please tell us of your extensive knowledge of every presidential election in US history.
>Inb4 hurrr durr I actually don't know much about any of them
Do the world a favor and kill yourself. It's willfully ignorant people like YOU that are ruining what democracy is supposed to be.

have we started the fire?

you will get no (you)'s from me shill

Literally everything about this post is wrong

Pretty much this.

Either one of two scenarios is happening here:

1.Trump is actually controlled opposition and they're all acting and playing along.

or

2.Trump is in fact their Hitler, and intends to rip their gut out.

With Hillary it's guaranteed she's one of them. So fuck it... take the coin flip. It's the most rational thing you can do.

time for you to seriously study anarchy

look up "What anarcy isn't."