Remember when AnCaps used to be a thing here?

Remember when AnCaps used to be a thing here?

What happened to them? Do you think they realised their position was simply incompatible with ethnic homogeneity and would encourage mass migration to white countries if it was ever a thing

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>Remember when AnCaps used to be a thing here?
They weren't, it's a shit forced meme.

The memes chased them off. Just like the Indian posters

that's not true. there used to be a sizeable crowd here and across libertarian parts of the internet around 2010-2012 when the financial crisis was still happening and Austrian economics was at its height

Anarchy is the only way to keep races seperated. under statism your are not allowed to set up borders and make rules on the land you own.

Capitalism and anarcho capitalism are self-interested ideologies that promote greed. Jews were originally ostracized by society BECAUSE they were self-interested. Any nomadic people will always be self-interested. Capitalism blesses self-interested people; that's why Jews like Ayn Rand promote it.

They say "But it provides the community with more food". That's why capitalism works; it tricks the naturally altruistic human mind into thinking that it's doing something that benefits everyone in some way. Karl Marx literally said communism was the next phase of capitalism, and we have the gall to trust capitalism?
Communism is just another form of capitalism; both ideologies sicken the mind.

You're lying, the lolbertarians on Sup Forums were not that far down on the political spectrum.

>What happened to them?
They have grown up

>What happened to them?
They probalby realized how stupid you people are.
Whenever I make a valid argument, I get Ignored or misinterpreted completely.
Most of you guys think you know how everything works but you have no clue how to reason.

what happened to all those kids that believed in Santa Claus?

They realize National Socialism was the only way.

These memes are so fucking stupid.
Do you have no clue how law works ?

they hit puberty and realised they were talking shite

>what is eminent domain

>laws without a state and monopoly on force

KEK

what is it about mixing your labour with raw materials that you non-ancaps don't understand??

I think it's just a meme. There are several more shit tier ideologies(NatSoc) on here that people don't make fun of. Maybe it's a psyop designed to discourage anarchist rhetoric and promote authoritarianism.

I'm talking about real law. legitimate law. order under contract.
I have no contract with anyone. I am not obliged to follow any rules.

I don't know what you mean.
please elaborate.

They have taken up shitposting onna motorboat in Somalia and boarding American ships because we captains now.
Not an argument.

>Not an argument.
Not an argument

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There was a coordinated atack on libertarians in early 2014 late 2013. There were nonstop threads asking the muh road question amungst other things. As for ancaps, I don't remember there being too many of them. Just a few fags making a general and making polandball like comics.

>I touched it that means I own it now

unless anyone else says otherwise and can fight for it
You can't enforce law without a state, retard

>You can't enforce law without a state, retard

Why do you assume that?

You can enforce law with force you cuckold.

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Not an argument.

support for libertarian, especially Austrian, ideology collapsed when all their predictions turned out wrong

there was no mass hyperinflation, gold didn't got to $100,000 an ounce, and the world economy didn't collapse over night leaving us all to fend for ourselves

The "Stormcloudsgathering" and other larping idiots eventually had to give up.

Because it's true

yes a monopoly on force

otherwise known as a state/government

Nice meme. No arguments detected, curry nigger.
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>Because it's true
AAah! OK, now I understand. made things much clearer.

by your definition this means that no state except the most powerful is legitimate and can enforce property rights (i.e. the United States)

Go and buy that large hotel in Bratislava from the 1 dollar you got as tip from an american tourist, or kill one for a chewing gum.

You don't need a monopoly to have force, you cuck.
Look up just about any lone wolf. Did they have a monopoly on force? Didn't think so, cuck.
N O T A N A R G U M E N T
>implying I can't go around shooting pavement apes to improve crime rates in their neighbourhoods
it's like you're a social justice weeaboo

>history hurts my feelings so it can't be true

ancaps are so fucking deluded. States have dominated ever since society advanced beyond simple farming communities

In a sense I suppose

You aren't very independent if you have the government of another country telling you what to do.

lmao india bringing the bantz
Go drink cow urine soda and take a shit on a highway, Pajeet. You've earned it, fag.
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>States have dominated ever since society advanced beyond simple farming communities.
So what. that's not the point.
Why don't you answer my question instead?

How about you anti ancap fags go read some ancap theory.

Yes, because when education is limited, you can't let peasants run loose.

>that's not the point.
>reality isn't the point, my teenage ideals are the point

ancaps, everyone

for the vast majority of history education simply wasn't possible for most people because the nessecary resources couldn't be accumulated and 90% of the population needed to be working the land just to ensure survival

That was until the Industrial revolution of course.

Sorry but I'm not jewish

Friedman was in favour of a welfare state and public goods provision, even basic government healthcare. Nozick wasn't an Ancap either

You assumptious fucker.
If you have any real knowledge, why not share it Mr. Know it all?

Yes, that's how it worked at the time. Since the Industrial revolution already happened, we should strive towards freedom, not being slaves to the state.
To adress the Jewish question in capitalism - if you want the Jews to have more money than you do, keep being a commie. Helicopter fuel is cheap these days, I've heard.

In favour of a welfare state? How? He even stated that if you have a welfare state, immigration doesn't work how it was meant to (i.e. nigs coming for gibs and muh dick instead of actual work).

Because it's thoroughly BTFO by any 20th century analytic or continental philosophical work. Seriously, Rothbard can be wrecked from a variety of perspectives, Rawls, Foucault, ... Pretty much anyone.

>real knowledge

of what? basic history?

>not being slaves to the state.

yes let's be slaves to globalist jewish billionaires instead

brilliant plan, retard

>the Jewish question in capitalism

The question is not about capitalism it is about government and the idiocy it takes to believe we should have none.

We're still here user.

We became libertarians. A state, pseudo state, or some form of organized power is inevitable.

Do you not see how a monopoly on force to enforce law is the exact same thing as a state?

Still here.

>of what? basic history?
No. I asked you why "you can not have law without a state"? like you claimed
You have not come up with any reason

Capitalism is voluntary. Start a revolution if you feel pushed around, but unless you fall for the loan meme, you're your own man.
The government is almost always less efficient than the private sector, partly because while it takes skill to keep being a top player in the private sector, all takes to get elected is false promises. So a much smaller government is better than a big one.

There will be no legitimate force in an ancap society, only self defence.
Any state is illegitimate. There are no binding contracts and noone owns it, therefore noone is responsible. everyone looses when it fails.

>muh joos

I still think ancap is the best model but unfortunately it requires a high IQ population of a single identity, no ((( diversity ))), which makes it pretty much impossible to implement in the modern world. That said, when space becomes more accessible, ancap will be the de facto system because you can't enforce statism in a near infinite expanse.

never left, though usually I tend to avoid ancap threads because of lack of fresh OC

>implying "Democracy: The God That Failed" isn't top tier monarchist literature

> you can't enforce statism in a near infinite expanse

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because the laws can't be enforced, retard

capitalism is not a system of government

yes they exploit the economy in order to parasitism and destroy it by using toxic debt and financial schemes (sub prime loans, debt leveraging, etc)

I'm glad we agree.

I think some of them moved to other chans

monarchists are so pathetic because they think they would actually get to be the king and not the serfs

you're going to be the one whit no political representation and working the land for no pay while your masters laugh at you not the other way around

>because the laws can't be enforced, retard
Yeah, I get that you assume that. But why can't they? What is it that makes this impossible?

>What happened to them? Do you think they realised their position was simply incompatible with ethnic homogeneity and would encourage mass migration to white countries if it was ever a thing

Wow that's one loaded question, faggot.

what's wrong with removing welfare using taxation AKA theft? next thing you statists will do is support me getting SHOT

because the criminals you're trying to stop can just kill you and then replace you and whatever organization you have, and presumably anyone else unless you have a "monopoly on force" in a certain region

that's what all those wars were over for thousands of years control over a certain area of land between competing forces.

I still think Ancap would be great but it's not realistic. Like Libertarians and Liberals they don't rely much on reality. They're idealistic. If the world was perfect, or just white and Asian, Ancap could possibly work.

butthurt ancap detected

>Remember when AnCaps used to be a thing here?
There's daily ancap threads
>What happened to them?
They're growing exponentially
>Do you think they realised their position was simply incompatible with ethnic homogeneity and would encourage mass migration to white countries if it was ever a thing
It's not. Incompatible tribes segregate and self-deport by NATURE. It's only when there's state interests involved that immigrants are allowed in to replace the natives.
No welfare means no millions of cockroaches storming your country
No government restriction means goods and people can move freely and the only ones that have a future in their country of destination are those that can bring value to a business or group (i.e. the smarter ones)

Ancap is the best/most moral ideology.

>butthurt ancap detected

I'm not an ancap/libertarian. Some people don't like loaded questions and general condescension as it's a prime indicator that you're an dumb, insufferable asshole.

>ancap will be the de facto system because you can't enforce statism in a near infinite expanse
>implying once we reach outer space, we can literally go anywhere

Ancap is my favorite Sup Forums meme

>Whenever I make a valid argument, I get Ignored or misinterpreted completely.

this is the most annoying shit
I had a person just post "I'm not stupid enough to believe that" in reply to my post
it doesn't matter whether you believe it or not you dumb fuck post an actual argument against mine dumb motherfucker

...semirare?

explain to me how you can remove leftists from society without a government

>explain to me how you can remove leftists from society without a government

With helicopter brigades and firearms.

Now fuck off.

Ok lets set up an example.

We have Person 1 Called mr. Ancap

We have person 2 called mr Murder.

Mr. Ancap has paid for insurance, he has paid for private security along with many others, to patrol the area in his community. these security guards are paid by costumers, they are under contract and are obliged to follow the rules written in the contract.

Now mr murder goes to mr ancap.
Mr. murder kills mr Ancap.

One of mr. ancaps friends get worried because he cannot contact him and goes to his house and find him dead.

Now the whole town knows about it and everyone is worried. mr Ancaps security service now begins an investigation.
they find out Mr. murder killed him. so he goes to court, then to prison. because the community has contractually agreed that that is the right process to go through.

what's the problem here?

Yeah. I know your feel.

NAP doesn't apply to leftists. now take a ride you fucking degenerate.

>brigades

so an army
which is ultimately part of a state

>mr murder and his mates get together and kill everyone who opposes them, there's no monopoly of force to stop them so they eventually kill enough people until they become the new rulers of the geographical area

welcome to the last tens of thousands of years of human history

pay attention in class next time

>There are people on Sup Forums who still follow Rothbard's sociopathic anarcho-capitalist kike bullshit

AnCaps are just as delusional as communists, only they're motivated solely by pure Jewish greed.

he said while posting the PRESIDENT of Chile's GOVERNMENT

really made me thunk

they honestly think there are only two options in life Communist kikery or libertarian kikery

but that's how many people are raised in the US so it makes sense

>so an army
which is ultimately part of a state
Private military companies m80.
>PRESIDENT of Chile's GOVERNMENT
Who was also an advocate of the free market and removing leftists as well as minimizing the state. He was a fucking hero mate and we need another one.

Without a government the rise of SJWs, cultural Marxism and socialism would have been IMPOSSIBLE

These are ideas that simply don't survive in the market, they need state coercion to thrive. Like mold that needs food.

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>they eventually kill enough people until they become the new rulers of the geographical area

This is assuming there is no incentive to stop them.
why would people not be able to stop them?

>Private military companies

>large groups of armed men won't just take over because muh feelings

kek these are communist levels of delusion

>advocate of the free market

The free market is not a form of government, retard

although if you remove the state enough you just get feudalism

>they need state coercion to thrive

so do law and order, and any society more advanced than a hermit living in the woods

maybe you shouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater.


yeah maybe they could form some sort of organization that has a monopoly on force that would stop people from killing and raping them and provide for the common defense as well as enforce law and order

hmm....but what to call it

think think think

>so do law and order, and any society more advanced than a hermit living in the woods
>maybe you shouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Any counterarguments?

It would not be force it would be self defence.
And why the fuck would you need a monopoly?

>if you remove the state enough you just get feudalism
>large groups of armed men won't just take over because muh feelings
I'm not sure if you are joking or not. Or are you really just autistic?

He really refuses to understand that people can have rights on something that's not property?

Except you have to enforce the laws and taxation in your society to prevent invasion

which triggers the shit out of "muh freedom" type larpers

I don't even get what your point is

feudalism is rule by the conquerors who invaded the land and now lord over the peasantry

libertarianism is just applied autism so possibly

If it is under contract, why the fuck would you have to enforce it?
You would only have to act in self defence, i.e. if a contract is broken.

After a while it gets kind of boring/pointless to keep talking about complete economic freedom during an election year.


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good luck enforcing your contracts without a monopoly on force

What is it that you don't understand?
You will not have to enforce them!
You will only have to act in self defence if the contract is broken.

Now that you mention it, I've only seen 1 poo loo poster this entire week. The loo witch must have cursed them all.

You do realize that SJW and "cultural marxism" are actually thriving because we live in a service-based society full of narcissistic individuals who are sheltered in material wealth and luxury ?

Those are ideas that survive very well on the market, as it makes for complacent, docile, and misguided individuals who are then able to blindly go with the creed of amassing wealth, since, guess what, it's literally the only thing that's keeping those beliefs afloat

Do you get it wafflenigger ? It's not about government, it's about wealth and education

Moron

>because we live in a service-based society full of narcissistic individuals who are sheltered in material wealth and luxury ?
Opinions, opinions, opinions.
Provide evidence or arguments.
>Those are ideas that survive very well on the market
No, they don't. That's why they're inseparably attached to state regulation.

You've made 0 arguments, Achmed