Amerifriends, please tell me about Arizona

Amerifriends, please tell me about Arizona.

Is it a good state?

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Arizona's major export is corn or as the Indians called it "Maize".

How are the people? Are they hard or soft cunts? Do they like guns?

how the fuck is trump getting only a 2% lead in a Republican state lmao

he's going to lose big time, isn't he?

Sup Forums is for politics. read the god damned sticky

>2% lead in a huffpost

shit thats like a landslide. i bet they polled 30% more dems and hill still lost

The people there are very serious, probably due to their diet which consists almost entirely of corn.

Ask the Russians

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>On August 18, the FBI’s Cyber Division sent out a warning bulletin, titled “Targeting Activity Against State Board of Election Systems,” confirming that the bureau had been investigating breaches of two state election systems, one of which resulted in “exfiltration” of voter registration data. The bulletin was labeled “NEED TO KNOW recipients,” but Yahoo news obtained a copy and reported on it Monday.

Arizonafag here. It's an okay state. I would rather live somewhere else though.

>Indians

you mean natives, or skins you retard

I'm curious about their political stance and their right wing power level desu.

It's just a state you don't hear a lot about as a non-American and it has this ambiguous vibe to me like being sort of Southern but also being suspiciously close to California.

Southern? we are definitely not southerners.

> has this ambiguous vibe to me like being sort of Southern but also being suspiciously close to California

That's how I've always thought of it as well.

Hell yes it is. Phoenix is a very comfy sprawl of well-designed suburbs connected to well-designed and well maintained freeways with little congestion. The city is a wet dream for oil companies.

The state is republican, has low taxes, low regulation, booming job-market and economy because of this and starting a business there is easy.

It sucks shit. It's too fucking hot, and there are mexicans and hipsters everywhere.

Thanks for the information, Bart.

Clearly you are not a fan of "Maize".

We have a lot of people moving here from other states, it's been that way for decades. We're kind of a mutt.

How do you perceive yourself in the general scheme? Just Western?

How do you look upon Californians? Are New Mexicans your closest brothers?

Arizona is its own things. People move here from all over the country for the low cost of living, so there isn't really any sort of "Arizona pride" in the way of Texas or California.

It is a pretty solidly republican state, though not always. We do have founding fathers tier gun regulations. Lots of open country and good camping. It would be perfect if it weren't for the brutal summers.

Californians are faggots. Mexicans are hit and miss.

Atleast someone got it.

Hot as fuck, lots of local metal bands, Constitutional Carry. There's all you need to know.

It's the most based state in the union

>Phoenix is a very comfy sprawl of well-designed suburbs connected to well-designed and well maintained freeways with little congestion.
When was the last time you were there?

I enjoy it quite a bit and he summers aren't bad as long as you aren't fat

>he likes living in the desert
mogollon rim master race

Probably will become permanent blue state if the Hillary regime comes into power (sadly it probably will, even if it has to cheat its way in). So I'm enjoying my state before the long spiral downward begins.

Ayy an AZ bro

yeah come try deep south east coast before you talk about hot, boy

you don't know hot until you're neck deep in niggers and BBQ when it's 102F outside and your nuts feel like the second coming of moses

>yeah come try deep south east coast before you talk about hot, boy
>heat and humidity are the same thing
Public school education is really bad.

Arizona has 2 important facts you should consider:

1) Arizona has more illegal immigrants than all of the other 49 states combined

2) Arizona experiences more illegal immigration than all other 49 states combined.

Idk what it is, but the Mexicans go for Arizona. That's why Arizona has the most "racist" anti immigration policy. More than 50% of the illegal immigration problem in this country is confined to 1 state

>*These numbers are from 2014

try 115 F m8

>People move here from all over the country for the low cost of living
Can confirm myself, I have a second uncle or however you call it from Canada and he's a snowbird there.

He whines about the AR-15's for sale there so he's a bitch desu.

Unbearably hot and dead but at least it's a red state.

It started off as a melting pot of Indian and Spaniard culture for 300 years after the first Spaniards settled here. When it was New Mexico Territory in the 1800s it was what you would see in Western movies (The Man With No Name Trilogy actually takes place in Arizona and New Mexico). Now it's its own thing (along with parts of Utah, Nevada, California, and half of New Mexico) called the Southwest that has both Indian and Spanish influence.

It's hotter in Arizona.

Califag here nice dubs Arizona is the most based state thinking about emigrating there desu.

Tucsonfag here.

I'm in a metal band.

Just found out Soulfly's from there, that was my shit in the 90s

Dang, you guys really have more than we do in Cali?

See Just go to Texas

More than Cali + every other state combined.
When people were criticizing the Arizona laws that gave cops more power to question Mexicans, they didn't realize how bad the problem is.

Too fucking hot.
No one in the right mind should EVER live in the south or dessert states.

It's because is easy af to cross from Sonora to Arizona without getting caught

t. sonorafag

Arizona here. Everyone I know is voting Trump except for two old high school friends who were Bernie fags the last time I spoke to them.

It might be the friendliest state for guns. There are a lot of hispanics but if you live in the right places you will never meet a single hispanic.

Global warming man. Soon every state will be as hot as AZ is now

My aunt lives there. Don't go there.

I assumed it had something to do with the cities along the border. I've never been to the south, I live in Nebraska. I just work with A LOT of statistics in my work (I'm an actuary)

adapt soon

I don't suppose it's easy to answer since we can't easily compare to each other but how would you think Mexicans rank to T*rks and North-African Muslims immigrants?

It would seem to me that they are much, much better since they are Catholic and actually work and drink beer and such.

That's not how it works

I was actually joking, but I did live in AZ for two years and really liked it. Hot as balls but dry and I like that better than humid-hot. Its possible to live in an all white neighborhood. There are a ton of Mexicans, but no black people so that's better than CA. But I will say if/when illegals get citizenship tho AZ is gonna get shafted.

Do you think that on King of the Hill, when John Redcorn introduced himself to another Indian, he calls himself John Redmaize.

>landlocked desert
>good
how about no

This. Currently attending college in Tucson, and it seems like everybody I meet has their own story of how they wound up in Arizona. People come here from literally everywhere.

And yeah, Californians are currently in the process of flooding AZ, and they're bringing their limpwristed leftist politics with them. Mexicans are flooding in as well, and Trump was absolutely right--they're bringing drugs and crime, and they're rapists.

Mexican immigrants are actually almost white-tier. They're certainly noisy when you see them in public (and believe me, you will notice them), but they're not confrontational like blacks are. They're actually quite polite. They make bomb ass food and they work had as fuck for next to nothing. I'll take 3 Mexicans over 1 nigger anyday.

Hell, theres a reason why the Aryan brotherhood teamed up with the Mexican Mafia. Genetically speaking, the difference between Mexicans and white Europeans is almost negligible.

I've never met any Turkish immigrants but a decade ago we got about 100 Sudanese refugees who stayed here for about a year. They were annoying as fuck. Those kids would use tour hose without asking and would break into our backyard to jump on our trampoline

I know most of Sup Forums hates Mexicans but they're fine. Obviously, I think illegal immigration and needs to be stopped and I don't support bringing more in. But in my experience Mexicans are the best immigrants and generally pretty nice.

You will never see a Muslim. You may see one or two blacks but it's nothing. Native Americans keep to themselves and don't bother anyone.

Exactly this. The only Mexican problem we have is that too many are trying to come over that we can't keep track of them. They're hardly a problem once they're here and have built a life for themselves. They don't think they're owed anything, so they'll work to prove they deserve it

>But in my experience Mexicans are the best immigrants and generally pretty nice.
The modern European immigrant is even better.

>Sudanese
I'm sorry for you. Those purple tier niggers are straight barbarians.

No, Mexicans are a net drain on society by any measurement metric. You would be much better off getting people in the country who can read and are educated over more people who can pick beans.

I cannot even believe that people that live in AZ would say anything differently.

Yeah but they were gone before we knew it. It was actually only like 8 months. Since then it's been a white neighborhood

What I tell liberals who vacation here: its a racist, sexist shithole with terrible weather and living conditions, stay in commiefornia

What I tell normal people: do you like yhevoutdoors, guns, city or suburb life? Have a family you want to raise in an affordable growing economy state? Then stay a while friend, and let me tell you if the glories of Arizona.

And just an aside for people who always create what if maps and what not, Arizona and California are not friends. We will never be friends. California is like that kid in class who thinks they're besties with everyone, when in reality they eat glue, shit their pants and just annoy us all. Get the fuck out of our state!

Tucson here as well, this city is probably one of the most boring places on this earth
Half the people here dont even leave their houses because of fucking hot it is.
Also downtown is full of hipsters and faggots the worst of the worst
Ive also been seeing a lot of cholo's moving in which I hope would just stop

Landlocked desert that is a 6hr roadtrip from Cali beaches, rocky-mountain skiing, Las Vegas, Alpine forests, and pretty much anywhere else you would want to go.

Our economy doesn't need people who can read. Hell, 99% of the country can read, and yet a huge portion of the country can't find work.
We need people willing to do the hard work for the low pay that it offers.

You think they're a drain? Go work at a farm for a day. There's a reason why white people don't do it

We love guns and this is home to some of the gnarliest conservatives ive ever seen

Also the school where I went to is full of Nepali refugees

Might be moving to Tucson later this year. I cant wait to bring all my AIDS and commie beliefs with me. Allahu Ackbar

>Our economy doesn't need people who can read.
>but we do need people who are uneducated whose only outlooks are manual labor that doesnt require reading much less understanding
So are you mexican, because what you just said is only said by the anchor baby family members of illegals.
>Hell, 99% of the country can read, and yet a huge portion of the country can't find work.
We need people willing to do the hard work for the low pay that it offers.
>Globalism has fucked our economic outlook, but you know what will fix it? Low IQ manual laborers!
See above.
>You think they're a drain?
Anyone with a basic command of mathematics can tell you that they are a net drain.
>There's a reason why white people don't do it
Does it have to do with the fact that those jobs pay sub federal minimum wage?
Are you aware that until the mid 80s most farm hand jobs were done by whites?

tl;dr stop being an anchor baby you mexican scum.

Also, earth-porn.

outside of phoenix yes

lots of older people though
still they are not old hippies

lots of guns and desert so people act right or go missing

This is the most retarded pseudointellectual argument I've ever seen
Keep comforting yourself by thinking I'm Mexican, but I'm a German through and through.

>This is the most retarded pseudointellectual argument I've ever seen
>but we need more low IQ laborers!
So you're retarded and cant think things through?

So we have a surplus of educated workers who want high paying jobs in technical fields which have limited positions. These people refuse to take the available manual labor jobs that we need to hire for, since it doesn't utilize their education.
So your solution is to keep out the unskilled workers willing to do the unskilled work while letting in the intelligent migrants who are only going to end up getting the jobs that the educated Americans were trying to get?

Jesus fucking Christ you're retarded. Or you're a Jew intentionally trying to ruin the economy

>So we have a surplus of educated workers who want high paying jobs in technical fields which have limited positions.
No thanks to H1-B visas.
>These people refuse to take the available manual labor jobs that we need to hire for, since it doesn't utilize their education.
>deliberately ignoring the fact that since NAFTA was passed most of those jobs have either left the US or are filled by illegals earning sub $5 an hour
So you are obtuse?
>o your solution is to keep out the unskilled workers willing to do the unskilled work while letting in the intelligent migrants who are only going to end up getting the jobs that the educated Americans were trying to get?
>look at me ignore what you say and instead project my shitty logic on the situation.

I cant say I am surprised, if you are indeed German then it would make sense, you are espousing the same thing Germany is doing to itself right now, sure is working out well for them, right?

>thanks to H1-B visas
We're talking about natives here you retard. How are you this dense?
First you say we need to bring in only educated immigrants and now you blame the labor surplus on educated immigrants?

Fuck dude, I don't even need to argue you. You're arguing with yourself

>So we have a surplus of educated workers who want high paying jobs in technical fields which have limited positions
They have limited positions due to the H1-B visas, stop being retarded.

geezus relax hombre its actually indians not natives or skins. you racist piece of shit

Yeah they're limited. So why do we need more educated immigrants? We have a shortage of manual workers and a surplus of educated workers. How can you think the solution is more educated migrants and less manual labor migrants?

You must be a kike. You're trying to sabotage the economy

this is mostly true except for the 51 during rush hour on weekdays

>Yeah they're limited.
Due to the fact that they can fill the positions with lower paid people for other countries.
>So why do we need more educated immigrants?
Because our growth in the US is in fields that require education, not manual field labor.
>We have a shortage of manual workers and a surplus of educated workers.
>people should be glad they have job opportunities that pay sub $5 an hour
And you are calling me Jewish?
Really, just stop and think about this, Germany is already doing exactly what you are describing and it is utterly destroying them, why on gods green earth do you think it would work here when it is failing in the land of your forefathers?

It's a spic filled dessert

There is absolutely no way Hillary is winning AZ. I live here, the consensus with people that I talk to is wither they love Trump and are voting for him, or they hate Hillary so much, they're voting for someone else (3rd party)

Arizona resident, I am a white male. Can confirm that spics are everywhere. We need a wall.

Holy shit you're retarded.
The visas limit the amount of hires that the company can have. We want Americans working those high skilled jobs, so we need less H1-B visas. We need less educated migrants. Everyone in America has been educated and taught that we deserve more than just picking fruit for a living.
So now everyone has their degree, the skilled jobs are already filled so nobody can find those skilled jobs. But there's a high demand for fruit pickers, since nobody wants to be one. The fruit gets more expensive as it gets harder and harder to find fruit pickers, since all of the educated people refuse to work those jobs.
Our economy does require unskilled manual labor. If it didn't, then Mexicans wouldn't come over in the first place. You're just too retarded to understand basic economics

this state has always been strongly Republican. The old people are strong in Republican numbers and they always vote. the younger group is split between trump supporters and bernouts. With him out, most young people will likely vote johnson or sanders even though it's a throw away vote.

Trump will definitely win AZ unless there are massive electronic election fraud with voting machines.

Hispanic neoreactionary here. Fuck yes, my state is based AF; i'm voting Trump and I strongly suspect my state shall overwhelmingly follow suit.

very scientific polling you've done there

however, i hope he wins

honestly i'm more expecting that to happen in 10-20 years when all the stout elderly repubs die off and all we're left with is the faggot whiney communist hipsters.

Hopefully most of them will move to washington or oregon though and leave this state alone.

>The visas limit the amount of hires that the company can have.
Yes, however that doesnt change the fact that they are hiring people not from the US to do jobs that we have people here capable of filling, instead they fill the job with cheaper alternatives.
>We want Americans working those high skilled jobs, so we need less H1-B visas.
Indeed, however that doesnt mean that we need to take in more unskilled low IQ immigrants like you and Merkel suggest.
>Everyone in America has been educated and taught that we deserve more than just picking fruit for a living.
Maybe if those jobs didnt pay sub $5 an hour people would want them, you know, like how it was in the past before retards like you voted for amnesty.
>So now everyone has their degree, the skilled jobs are already filled so nobody can find those skilled jobs.
Why not stop the H1-B visa program, that would free up many many jobs.
> But there's a high demand for fruit pickers, since nobody wants to be one.
>people should be grateful that there are jobs that pay $5 or less!
>The fruit gets more expensive as it gets harder and harder to find fruit pickers, since all of the educated people refuse to work
Yet in the past people were fine with that and ate fruit that was in season more than eating grapes from Chile in February.
>Our economy does require unskilled manual labor.
Indeed it does Angela, but it also requires people to be paid a living wage without fear of their job being outsourced to Mexica, China or India.
> If it didn't, then Mexicans wouldn't come over in the first place.
They come here because people are willing to hire them to do jobs that they cannot pay white people to do when their pay scale ends long before federal minimum wage starts. Stop being deliberately obtuse about your fantasy world in which an industrial nation seriously has a need for people who cannot even read.

>You will never see a Muslim.

I'm guessing you don't go to college or haven't been in a while.
muzzies are extremely plentiful.

never meant to claim it was a fantastic representation of the state, just what i've observed.

Okay, I'm going to explain it to you like I would explain it to a child

You have a country with 2 job: accountants and janitors. There are 1000 people in your country, and 800 are trained to be accountants. The other 200 are janitors. Now let's say there are 500 positions for both jobs. 500 accountants are hired, and 200 janitors are hired. Now there's 300 accountants who cant find a job, and there's a shortage of 300 janitors. That's the situation in America

I suggested that letting more janitors into our country wouldn't be a bad thing, and you said "NO! We don't need more janitors in our country! We need more accountants! Bring in more accountants and get rid of the janitors!"

>A college campus is an accurate depiction of America

>You have a country with 2 job: accountants and janitors. There are 1000 people in your country, and 800 are trained to be accountants. The other 200 are janitors. Now let's say there are 500 positions for both jobs. 500 accountants are hired, and 200 janitors are hired. Now there's 300 accountants who cant find a job, and there's a shortage of 300 janitors. That's the situation in America
That would be accurate if you were paying the janitors 5 dollars an hour and the accountants 30 with a mandatory minimum wage of 7.50. Now tell me retard, why would people want those jobs?

You spelled "copper" wrong lel

Its not a fucking fantasy world you retard, you're just ignorant. This is the reality of America

that has nothing to do with my comment or the one i was responding to.

>Its not a fucking fantasy world you retard, you're just ignorant. This is the reality of America
>damn it goyim, why wont you believe me that making less than federal minimum wage is a good choice!
Jesus fuck.

>Hotter than Satan's ballsack in the summer
>Cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey in the winter.
>Best gun laws in the nation
>Some of the dumbest people you can imagine
>Mexicans out the wazoo
>Lots of indians. Feather, and dot
I like it here

That's what is fucking happening you retard. That's why it's accurate.

Why would people want those jobs? Because it's better than fucking nothing.

What, do you think Mexicans would rather earn $0 at home than be forced to work for less than minimum in America? No, they're happy for $5. But the people who are unemployed accountants aren't happy with the $5, so they won't take the jobs. The only ones who will are the immigrants.

How the fuck do you not understand this?