Holocaust is one of the best documented genocides in history. A huge deggre of historical ignorance is vital to deny it

Holocaust is one of the best documented genocides in history. A huge deggre of historical ignorance is vital to deny it.

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archive.org/details/ALetterFromJewishFrenchDr.RogerDommerguePolaccoDeMenasceToStevens
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Why does Portugal exist again?

Because we kicked the shit out of our neighboors multiple times

>have no argument
>insult flag

I'd rather be ignorant than moortugese.

Shart

What were you saying again?

>muh nuremberg trials!!!!

I don't know german so i don't know what that means.

Also that document is pretty understandable. Jewish forced labour was vital for german war effort, so it's understandable that Himmler (i think) wanted them to live longer.

So what is this supposed to prove?

That Jews have used the "6,000,000" number time and again.

Don't you find it odd that exactly 6,000,000 Jews either suffer or die in each of these events?

>muh nuremberg trials!!!!

what are you talking about? are you retarded? that's just translation for Nuremberg trials, Nuremberg is irrelevant overall.

that pic

pic related

And what is that pic supposed to mean?

I approve this message

Either way, how come Poland had to constantly change the death toll?

It went from tens of thousands in the 1950's to 1.5 million a decade later, to 4 million later on, to 6 million after that, and then they had to change it back to 1.5 million Jews that were killed.

Explain why they had to change the death toll so many times?

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How can you be so sure those documents are "well documented?" Anyone could say they were prisoners in Auschwitz and write it down on a piece of paper. It's like the Bible, just because a lot of people believe in it doesn't necessarily make it true.

>how come Poland had to constantly change the death toll?
source?

You mean the 4 million plaque? That plaque was there for the remainder of the soviet regime, because 4 million was the official USSR estimate. No serious western historian trusted it, and the 4 million never entered in serious estimates of jewish eath tools

>It went from tens of thousands in the 1950's
source?

> to 6 million after that
source?

It's 66 questions now bro.

They are all well ansered here

nizkor.org/qar-complete.cgi

>It werent exactly 6 million so the entire genocide wasnt real

Cant hear that shit anymore.

Even if only 1 million were killed. A genocide is still a genocide. It could be that it was exaggerated but that doesnt matter that a country still systematically tried to delete a race from a continent.

Hitler said on one of his speeches that if a world war broke out that the goal will not be the annihilation of the german but the annihilation of the jews.

>How can you be so sure those documents are "well documented?
What are you trying to say?

> Anyone could say they were prisoners in Auschwitz and write it down on a piece of paper. It's like the Bible, just because a lot of people believe in it doesn't necessarily make it true.

What? Holocaust is not "accepted" because alot of people bvelieve it.

>nizkor
>kike

Shoo shoo smelly Jew

youtube.com/watch?v=Fi-xdZ0HyFo

>hitler in mein kampf wants to exterminate jews
>6 million jews exterminated
>"IT WAS JUST TYPHUS BRO"

Thing that bothers me is how the chinese were killed, experimented on, raped and tortured much like the jews were and yet no one even remembers or cares...

We don't vilify the japs as we do with the germans, just because they invented video games and anime porn....

Hitler wanted to get rid of Christianity, but Germany is still Christian.
Come up with a better argument, fat for brains Amerifat.

Also Citation needed

>not an argument

sum up the video

>Thing that bothers me is how the chinese were killed, experimented on, raped and tortured
But no one denies it (except the japs)

>We don't vilify the japs as we do with the germans

Who vilifies germans???? Germans are a good people and i personally like them. I even plan to emmigrate there for a couple of years to improve my german.

>Hitler wanted to get rid of Christianity
After the "final victory"

>A huge degree of historical ignorance is vital to blindly accepting the Holocaust as fact.
Fixed.

Proponents of the Holocaust should welcome discussion. Instead, they squelch any dissenting voice as quickly and viciously as possible. This should and does raise suspicion.

Nothing I can't handle, dude.

>Proponents of the Holocaust should welcome discussion.
I made this thread

Now provide a argument

>sum up the video
Nah, watch it you lazy nigger
Here's more: youtube.com/watch?v=wgrZXiOPkrM

>After the "final victory"
Exactly my point, he could have been planing it after the war, it's irrelevant to talk about what people intended to do, we are talking about what has been done.

>Nah, watch it you lazy nigger
It's 20 min long. I won't watch it.

If your arguments are youtube videos from ow on i might as well to start using wikipedia or JIDF as source.

You have to admit, most people don't allow discussion. t. holocaust believer

>im a lazy nigger give me funny info graphics and text that I won't read and dismiss
Use whatever you want as source as long as it's verifiable.
Okay moorman, I have to sleep now, at least watch them later.

>most people don't allow discussion
Most people don't care. But yes, it's a sensible subject

So you have no argument? just spamming youtube videos? You know i can do that?

Sleep tight, i heard Gerogia had a sucessfull Olympic delegation

>everything in youtube videos are automatically false
ad verecundiam

>You know i can do that
Do it, i'm for it, otherwise I wouldn't have posted them.

Hi Nationalist View I see you and your friends are shilling again
I wonder if Greek and Colombia are going to show up too to complete your little crew of Redditors.

If you look up Nathan Bedford Forrest Sup Forums on Google you can find some of his assorted shitposts and troll threads much like this one.

not an argument

the most promenant revisionists have PhDs you stupid kike

that image is goofballs

are you suggesting kikes are made of sedimentary rocks?
their noses are stalagtites?

I'd really like if we could pic related to them like /cow/ did to Nathan. They aren't here to debate history they're here to 'le epic trole' us with fake edgy views or something, I'd prefer if we could just eliminate these neofags all together.

And as you can see Natl Cuck resorts to the Molyneux avenue of conversation where he pretends to not listen and throw a tantrum when people either post seriously or BTFO him extremely hard.

I agree, however why is this the ONLY holocaust that should matter, why is it always at the top of the list?

Why not discuss Armenia?
Cultural revolution and Chinas civil war?
Bolsheviks
The Khmer Rouge?
Indonesia's bloody history?
Australia's abos?
American Injuns?
Capoids in Africa?

What makes Germany's holocaust so special? Answer me succinctly, I don't want any fucking bullshit cunt.

>Implying kikes aren't soulless golems whose sole purpose is obtaining more shekels (Their power source)

He has an American friend who comes on and claims to be a stormfag while defending every post his Portuguese and Greek friends make. He doesn't use the "NOT AN ARGUMENT" stature he instead takes on a more devious "I'M SMARTER THAN U UR DUMB" approach to his trolling.
It's quite peculiar and interesting to see, a fine case study for basic amateur shill/troll tactics.

As you can see here we have the serious poster who actually attempts to make for discourse with Reddit Team Delta. He will not get a serious response from the Portuguese shitposter and will only be called an idiot, bigot, anti-semite, and be told his concerns or points are "not an argument".
Quite sad.

>the most promenant revisionists have PhDs you stupid kike
Like Irving?

lel

You should be ashamed of showing that pic of yours.

Pic related

Lurkers can see who is "winning" this "argument".

God damn you are such a faggot.

>however why is this the ONLY holocaust that should matter
source? I do this threads because there are people here who deny it. I honestly don't care about this. It happened 70 years ago.

>and Greek friends make.
??? My only "allies" in this threads are the austrian bro and South African bro.

>What makes Germany's holocaust so special?
Because people den it. And because this threads are really funny. And because i know more then all the deniers here, and that makes me feel good

Ah this is a new one, he is attempting to appeal to the unseen audiences of lurkerhood or is attempting to make the opponent of his feel less secure in his argumentative skills and posts.
This tactic isn't necessarily a very popular one for shills or trolls to use since it isn't effective. However the Portuguese Redditor does not understand this and will most likely continue using it.

Also question, which one of your group members made that photoshop? The OC is appreciated.


Oh and a response to his response to the Irving poster, he appears to be ridiculing David Irving with absolutely no information backing his attack. He is attempting to imply David Irving doesn't have a PHD or something weird.
Also a very odd and ineffective tactic I'd say since at least fabricating evidence would do better than not if his goal is to convince the audience and thread goers he is "serious".

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>I honestly don't care about this.
Sure looks like you do.

The ignorance of that imagine is astounding. Claiming to hold some sort of truth yet doesn't even acknowledge the mystical importance of 6 (multiples of divisors) in Kabbalah.

>Gittin 57b claims that four billion Jews were killed by the Romans in the city of Bethar.
>Gittin 58a claims that 16 million Jewish children were wrapped in scrolls and burned alive by the Romans.

Kikes have been pulling this crap for thousands of years you subversive hooknosed faggot.

yes mr sherman everyone is a shill

So you admit to cooperating with South Africa and Greece?
I also happen to know of your ties with the American and the Colombian, you cannot deny these unless of course it is the work of a proxy user. In which case I may have to use your admission as evidence to get their proxies banned.

>this threads are really funny
Trolling admission

>source? I do this threads there are people here who denyit. I honestly don't care about this. It happened 70 years ago
Ah yes! Thank you for the admission friend.
I'll be sure to use this anytime you bait or your friends bait.

I'm still waiting for a argument. If i missed one feel free to link it

>nationalist view
>not another jew subverter
Where is the red cross forensic evidence that millions were killed. They had evidence that the soviet jews had murdered 30,000 polish officers.

look up how many Christians died in Soviet Russia. The "holocaust" barely even qualifies as a genocide.

>Lurkers can see who is "winning" this "argument".
not the side that says there was masturbation machines, thats for sure

I have a hard time believing this user has bad reading comprehension nor thread following skills.
This here may be Portugal's American friend.
Next he will call me an idiot to demoralize me or something, that will be fun.
No need to post Molyneux man you just admitted to baiting and trolling faggots. Might as well go full retard now that you blew your cover.

CITATION

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read the last part

>The ignorance of that imagine is astounding.
>mystical importance of 6 (multiples of divisors) in Kabbalah.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA, loud kek was had. So you guys now base holocaust denial on mysticism? AHHAHAHAHAH

>4 billion
>16 million

What as this got to do with muh 6 million?

>subversive hooknosed faggot.
Only 3 insults in a row? You guys can do better

I love this threads

He won't give you one.
If you're lucky he might post "UR DUMB" or something

>This video is not available in your country.

Whatever you say, Shlomo.

Witness to History by Michael Walsh
biblebelievers.org.au/witness1.htm
biblebelievers.org.au/witness2.htm
biblebelievers.org.au/witness3.htm
>Winston Churchill described the tumultuous years between 1918 and 1933 as a period of 'formidable transformations'. Germany, defeated in a war not of its own making, was laid prostrate by defeat, revolution and anarchy. Communist revolutionaries eager to capitalise on their overthrow of the Russian state seized power. A British Government White Paper estimated that the Royal Navy's blockade on Germany "caused nearly 800,000 deaths, mainly women and children." Vast tracts of German territory were seized as booty and claims for reparations were so draconian that they effectively turned every German into a slave of the victors.

>With the Kaiser (king) in exile, the Workers and Soldiers' Soviets and the Social Democrats 'dismissed' the legitimate Ebert government and proclaimed a Soviet Republic. Armed bands of communists (Spartacists) led by Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebnecht, patrolled the streets. In Bavaria, another Jew, Kurt Eisner had declared the province a Soviet Republic. Soldiers returning from the front were massacred, revolutionaries seized state property and strikes designed to cause maximum damage to the staggering economy were organised. Barracks and naval dockyards were seized and street barricades divided Germany's cities and towns into politico-criminal fiefdoms.

inb4
>oy vey "biblebelievers.org.au" is hate speech

>So you guys now base holocaust denial on mysticism?
You know nothing of the jews do you?

>So you admit to cooperating with South Africa and Greece?
Nope, South African bro and Austria bro sort of introduced myself to this. Before them i was a "holocaust skeptic" myself.

I dont know who the greek is and only saw the Colombian once

>implying red cross had acess to the camps
"Hey HAns, what about we invite Red Cross to document our war crimes? That will look great in the Daily Mail and Washington Post cover"

>there was masturbation machines
What is this?

>archive.org/details/ALetterFromJewishFrenchDr.RogerDommerguePolaccoDeMenasceToStevens

citation of what?

You're either a shill or woefully autistic. I'm saying it represents a pattern of behavior known to this group of people throughout history. It fits perfectly with this known pattern of fabricating stories of genocide.

Now it doesn't mean that it didn't happen, but it makes it highly suspect. It's why we read "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" in the west Chaim. When you retell the same fictitious accounts over and over, people stop believing you.

You claim it's one of the best documented genocides, yet no one is too keen on providing "smoking gun" evidence.

I believe he means this.

Find me a speech in wich Hitler mentioned that revlution

>>implying red cross had acess to the camps
The nazis invited them in DURING the war after they had taken over the territory. You sound really uninformed.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre#Discovery
>The Germans brought in a European Red Cross committee called the Katyn Commission, comprising 12 forensic experts and their staff, from Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Denmark, Finland, France, Hungary, Italy, the Netherlands, Romania, Sweden, and Slovakia.[46] The Germans were so intent on proving that the Soviets were behind the massacre that they even included some Allied prisoners of war, among them writer Ferdynand Goetel, the Polish Home Army prisoner from Pawiak.[47

Since you dodged the question the first time live a faggot always does I'll ask it again.

Where is the forensic evidence that 6 million were executed/cremated?

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Damn, blown the fuck out.

>I was a 'holocaust skeptic' myself
You're not serious but if you were that would mean you're weak willed and have a massive follower mentality.
>masturbation machines
Lol you admitted to baiting and trolling but you're still trying to make people think you're serious

The fuck did I say Britbro?
This guy even pulled a "what're you talkin about I was only pretending to be retarded XDD"

Dude have you even read the fucking thread? Highlight my goddamn posts Natl Cuck works with like 5 other Redditors on Skype. We need to find out what their accounts are and hit them where it hurts.
NOT AN ARGUMENT

A huge degree in gullibility and unfounded trust is vital to not question it.

Tell me what points do you want me to dismiss. If you want all of them, all are dismissed here

nizkor.org/qar-complete.cgi
use ctrl+f

It's outside of context.

>You claim it's one of the best documented genocides, yet no one is too keen on providing "smoking gun" evidence.

I adressed every claim, while you guys insulted me.

Where is the forensic evidence that 3 thousand died on 9/11?

Funny how they bulldozed the site and don't let anyone dig.

Where is the evidence of 6 million dead?
rense.com/general69/factua.htm
A Factual Appraisal Of
The 'Holocaust'
By The Red Cross
The Jews And The Concentration Camps:
No Evidence Of Genocide

>The Report admits that the Germans were at first reluctant to permit supervision by the Red Cross of people detained on grounds relating to security, but by the latter part of 1942, the ICRC obtained important concessions from Germany. They were permitted to distribute food parcels to major concentration camps in Germany from August 1942, and "from February 1943 onwards this concession was extended to all other camps and prisons" (Vol. 111, p. 78). The ICRC soon established contact with camp commandants and launched a food relief programme which continued to function until the last months of 1945, letters of thanks for which came pouring in from Jewish internees.

You are dodging me still after I have rebutted you.

CHECK.

American/proxy user spotted.
(if you're a random dude who isn't related to the shill team go make an actual holocaust debate thread ;) this one is tainted )
NOT AN ARGUMENT

Holy fuck, you are stupid. The nazis invited the red cross to document the Katin massacre, a massacre perpetrated by USSR, wich was at war with the nazis. Oh my, whatt a shocker.

The nazis did it to try to drive a wedge betwenn USSR and the allies.

>Where is the forensic evidence that 6 million were executed/cremated?

What do you mean by forensic evidence?

I'm not claiming it did or didn't happen, I'm saying I doubt it because it follows the MO of known historical Jewish fabrications.

You claim it did happen, well go ahead and provide some proofs.

Lol do you have any evidence you fucking numbskull?

>best documented
>Stalin documented the murder of 22 million

>Holy fuck, you are stupid.
Respond to this faggot.

>What do you mean by forensic evidence?
What the fuck do you think I mean. Stories from schizophrenic jews don't count as evidence of anything.

OP is correct. Actual former history grad school student here.
The Holocaust was a quietly ignored fact after WWII because it was just so fucking horrible. No one really wanted to think about it. Then the world saw a resurgence of Neo-Nazi groups in the 1960s and 1970s which tried to claim that the Holocaust never happened so they could regain some clout.
Thus began a massive undertaking to prove and document that the Holocaust actually happened.
The irony is that Neo Nazis ended up creating the wealth of evidence that the Holocaust happened by denying that it happened in the first place.
I do personally agree that not all the Jews were murdered in gas chambers and shit like that we are told in schools. Jews were intentionally targeted but the majority died either from being worked to death via slave labor, being shot by retreating guards, and just allowed to die via malnutrition and disease.
~6 million Jews were indeed killed, that number isn't just a guesstimation. Because Neo Nazis always doubt the numbers, historians have come up with a pretty good approximation.

Lol cool copypasta brother

>American/proxy user spotted.
Also not an argument.

I'm just here to point out holocaust deniers make the most silly and contradictory arguments I've ever heard.

For instance, look at this post
If the Red cross was delivering food and aid all the way until the end of the war, then how does that square with the denialist claim that photos of dead bodies are just a few thousand of people who died due to starvation at the very end of the war due to the vague claim of "destroyed supply lines"

You can't have it both ways.

>Nazis invented the Red Cross

hahahaha bruhhhh, you are a great troll. The Red Cross existed before most of the Nazis were even born.

Except it never happened.

Those camps where fully functional and built to protect the Jews. The Jews fought like rats and killed themselves despite the best peaceful efforts of the nazi's...

Made the nazi's sad...

rense.com/general69/factua.htm
No Evidence Of Genocide

One of the most important aspects of the Red Cross Report is that it clarifies the true cause of those deaths that undoubtedly occurred in the camps toward the end of the war. Says the Report: "In the chaotic condition of Germany after the invasion during the final months of the war, the camps received no food supplies at all and starvation claimed an increasing number of victims. Itself alarmed by this situation, the German Government at last informed the ICRC on February 1st, 1945 ... In March 1945, discussions between the President of the ICRC and General of the S.S. Kaltenbrunner gave even more decisive results. Relief could henceforth be distributed by the ICRC, and one delegate was authorised to stay in each camp ..." (Vol. III, p. 83).

Wow so you paid jews to lie to you. GJ.

why deny it. it was funny
youtube.com/watch?v=ArlH0nU4mqQ

That greek guy is fucking disgusting and will wake up one day and realize his sexuality is a meme (if he's not autistic.)

>You're not serious but if you were that would mean you're weak willed and have a massive follower mentality.
I am serious. I was young and gullible. I grow out of it when i read about WW2. Those 2 showed me how fun this threads can be

>NOT AN ARGUMENT

But it is. You guys post that shit nemerous times claiming that Hitler actions were in response to that revolution, and hitler was right to crusade agaisnt the jews, but Hitler never mentioned the revolution in his speeches.

>because they made food deliveries that means food was plentiful and available everywhere at all times

Gee simple logic sure is hard.

Okay so you ARE his American friend.
Nice to see you're shitposting want to hand me an admission too?
>Red Cross was delivering food and aid all the way until the end of the war
PROOFS
POST EVIDENCE
SUPPORT YOUR STATEMENT
NOT AN ARGUMENT
YOU'RE AN IDIOT I BET U VOTE 4 [candidate]

>If the Red cross was delivering food and aid all the way until the end of the war, then how does that square with the denialist claim that photos of dead bodies are just a few thousand of people who died due to starvation at the very end of the war due to the vague claim of "destroyed supply lines"
This makes no logical sense. They wee delivering extra food rations to the work camps. The allies broke the supply lines and every starved. There is No "both ways".

> Holocaust is one of the best genocides in history. A huge deggre of historical ignorance is vital to deny it.
I don't know where you got your deggre but it was THE best.

What has portugal ever done for the world besides give us Brazil in all of its glory?

You're still young and gullible to be helping some backwoods Redditor kiddies 'trole' some dudes on an imageboard.

Also
>you guys
ASSUMPTION OF IDENTITY, NOT AN ARGUMENT