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I just watched this and I've been traumatized all day. I went into it without knowing anything about the movie except it was banned. I couldn't finish Cannibal Holocaust but when I finished this movie I was disgusted with myself.

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What's it about?

Literally what was the point of that movie?

The 120 days of Sodom

This movie is fucked up.

Describe some of the shit that goes down.

It was a critique of the aristocratic upper-class and their degeneration while simultaneously moralizing and remaining completely detached from reality

the blood is ketchup and the feces is chocolate

120 days of anal doesn't sound that bad, to be honest.

Really? Looks like a student movie, some scenes are so amateurish I just can't laugh

Pasolini was a fucking hack

Well, it takes place over a period of 120 days.

>I couldn't finish Cannibal Holocaust
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Part 2
I wasn't entirely sure if this was based off of anything or it was entirely fictional but
1. Why did the boys at the beginning get abducted; why did they become soldiers?

2. If they didn't want to be captured and sent to the Orgy House why didn't they just kill the Fascists since they had guns.

3. Why were the Fascists allowed to do what they did and what was the point in marrying each others daughters if they just like to have butt sex mainly with boys.

4. What was with group that abducted the kids just for the Fascists? Was Italy really full of pedo rings?

5. Why did the music chick jump?

6. I guess the whole segement where the guy who resembles Mr. Pink kept going person to person finding more and more people disobeying rules to find 1 of the Nazis fucking the black maid.
Why did they shoot him if he was on their side?

I'm sure there's more because I've tried to supress everything

this

You should watch Teorema next.

was there really a murder? I always thought there was a legit murder and his approach was that of an artist/voyeur to it, but watching some youtube videos on it they said the murder was in his head and never actually happened

I was drinking a coke when they rolled the shit out and even though I knew it was chocolate I kept thinking about what shit smelled like, it made my coke taste like feces and I almost vomited

>Pasolini was a fucking hack
Whoa there sonny, I don't like this movie either but let's not say things we can't take back.

Seriously, what goes down that is so bad? Don't give me movie nerd crap.

It was a book written during the enlightenment iirc it was never finished, and a French guy wrote it

Part 3

Just remembered some more scenes

7. What was with the whole wedding scene?

They made each one orgasm by a fascist of the same gender then made the boy and girl marry each other, told them to fuck and then pushed them aside separating them so they could fuck the boy. Also, 1 of the Fascists just starts making out with everyone in the room, I couldn't figure out why, it seemed random

I can't imagine what went through the actors minds at the time of shooting

Will Carlson is a 20-something loser who lives in a rundown neighborhood in New Jersey, where he ekes out a living as a birthday party clown in order to pay the rent for his abusive mother's nursing home and the rent on his rundown house. Despite the difficulties of the job, clowning is Will's one escape from the realities of his miserable existence: Will genuinely likes kids, and takes great joy from making them happy on their birthdays.

Struggling to make ends meet, but not wanting to give up his dream job, Will comes up with the idea to be a "bachelor party clown." Will's idea is that men throwing bachelor parties can hire him as well as a stripper; Will enters the room prior to the "real" entertainment, wearing clown makeup and lingerie, tricking the bachelor into thinking that there was a mix-up and a gay clown stripper has been sent in lieu of a female one. Will invents the persona of Vulgar the Clown (after his friend Syd tells him that the entire idea is "vulgar") and solicits himself in the want-ads. Before long, he is hired to appear at a bachelor party being held at a nearby motel.

It was Marquis the Sade, who inspired the word "sadism". As far as I know, he finished Salo, but there was another, even more fucked up book he wrote which he considered his magnum opus, but his daughter burned it after he died.

Have you watched it?
I couldn't handle the turtle death or the rock rape
The Green Inferno was more manageable

Honestly, I don't remember much because I watched it 20 years ago and I'm kind of glad I don't. I might be willing to watch it again, but I suspect it will still be as disgusting and offensive as it was the first time around.

Yeah, the turtle death I winced at. The rape was cool though

When Will arrives for the party — wearing stockings, garters, clown makeup, and a trench-coat — he is attacked and brutally beaten by a middle-aged man, Ed, and his sons Gino and Frankie. The three men then proceed to gang rape Will, taking turns videotaping the attack. The trio hold Will hostage in the motel room for an indeterminate amount of time, during which they subject him to a series of violent and humiliating sexual assaults. They also break a bottle over his head and drug him. A tearful Will goes home and spends the remainder of the night and part of the next morning crying while he washes himself clean in the bathtub.

Will spends a considerable amount of time after the attack in a crippling depression, which nearly costs him his home. Eventually, Will fulfills a promise to appear as a clown at one of his past-clients' children's party. When he gets to the party, Will discovers a hostage crisis is occurring; the father of one of the children, in the middle of divorce proceedings, has kidnapped his own daughter and is threatening to kill her. In a near-suicidal reaction, Will sneaks past the police barricade, breaks into the house, and subdues the father. News reporters capture some of the event on film, and before long the story makes national headlines. Will becomes known as "the hero clown;" the attention and outpouring of support breaks him out of his depression, and he is eventually given his own syndicated children's television show.

Do films like these actually offer anything to cinema?

The media coverage attracts the attention of Ed and his sons (who are still raping young men). They threaten Will with a copy of the tape of his being raped (edited to look like amateur porn) and begin to extort him. When Will tries to pay the men off, they attack him in a bathroom stall. Will finally strikes an agreement with the men wherein he will come to a motel room and "perform" for them, allowing himself to be taken advantage of again, and they will give him all of the copies of the tape; secretly, Will plans to ambush and murder them with the help of Syd.

When the time comes, the gun jams and Will finds himself unable to kill his tormentors. Just as Ed and his sons move in to rape and murder Will

It couldn't be scarier than Salo

ITT: This film somehow going over everyone's head.

If you feel traumatised by this, just remember that worse things has happened in real life in the past.

The only shit that was legitimately creepy was its ending and the cake scene

>the film about forcing kids to eat literal shit until they die is to intelligent for people

The green infnero borders on comedy
Aside from them moving having natives they aren't even related.

Yes
Any art form needs to have extremes
You need to see how far things can be taken in your medium to truly understand the depth and skill of said medium

It isn't. It's totally different. Watch it like you did Salo (without knowing anything about, that's how I did it.)

>cake scene
I don't remember this. What happened?

We're the actors really underage? That's a huge reason why theaters banned showing it.

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you are all fags
the movie is weak

The first like 30 minutes I keep asking myself "What's going on?"
And then the cross eyed man wants the soldier to fuck him in the ass after showing it to everyone in the room and I'm yelling to myself "what the fuck is going on?"

The nazis had all the men and women act like dogs and they fed them cake, one of the nazis put nails in the cake and the girls mouth was bleeding. In addition, they whipped one of the boys to death bare naked.

Yeah, now I remember. That and the torture executions at the end was disturbing. Agreed.

nigga if this idiot didn't get salo he sure as fuck won't even being to understand teorema

>Caligula’s favourite torture/execution method involved fileting the condemned with a saw-blade from spine, to crotch, to chest. Excess blood in the brain prevented unconsciousness and death could take hours.

>A citizen once insulted him to his face in a fit of rage, and Caligula responded by having him tied down, and beaten with heavy chains. He made this last for 3 months, having the man brought out from a dungeon and beaten, until Caligula and the whole crowds that gathered were too offended by the smell of the man’s gangrenous brain, whereupon he was beheaded.

>muh fiction

were they nazis tho? i thought they were italian separatist fascists right after WWII and mussolini's soccer head. the movie has this whole historical perspective that I did not appreciate back when i watched it.

hebephilia, cropophilia, moral decay, buttsex, abuse, degeneracy, the list goes on

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it's actually a very meditative movie

I mean this guy was a real jerk

I have a question about Pasolini's reputation.

He made a movie about the gospel according to St. Matthew, do Italians and Catholics in general like that movie in light that Pier has also done Salo?

It's pretty tame by today's standards.

My professor back in college got me into Italian cinema. He told me this was the only movie he's ever walked out on in theaters. Said he hated it and thought it was redundantly disgusting ("We get it; fascists are bad.").

Cool guy; he dives in the ocean and discovers shipwrecks.

>cropophilia
Is that when you have sex with crops?

Literally what beats it?

I don't know how many Catholics at large are even aware of Pasolini's existence. I assume those that do take it on a case-by-case basis. For what it's worth, Gospel of St. Matthew is on the Vatican's list of "Greatest Films":

archive.usccb.org/movies/vaticanfilms.shtml

Pretty good variety, imo.

Exactly, I can't imagine anything else being as disturbing as Salo

yes, it includes wheatophiles

i know right

What did you find uncomfortable or disturbing about it in particular?

jesus christ, grow a set

Basically a normal day in san Francisco or sweden?

The book is much much worse. The writing isn't that great though

t. Faggots

Like a bullet to the head

How they torture kids at the end, cut their tongue off, burn them with metal objects, poke out their eyes with a knife, scalp them, etc.

Yeah, and all the rape of boys and girls.

/ourguy/

Just reading about the actual book was more disturbing than anything in the film, actually.

Someone couldn't handle the banter.

Well for starters I separate my porn from my film
But this was more than porn, it was rape, torture and the most disgusting perversions in my opinion
I'm not homophobic but I don't want to see penises, anal sex,
I don't understand the feces, bathing in it, making them eat it, pissing in their mouth
Most of all I hate pedophiles so all the underage sex was upsetting, from the first Orgy room scene where they boy wipes cum off his face and in tears

Name me a director that had a cooler death though.

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>I just watched this and I've been traumatized all day

ain't even that edgy compared to most of the shock horror shit we have today

You're such a pussy. I watched this movie while chowing down on some delicious nachos and it was entertaining as fuck. Maybe cause I got a bit of a dark side to me, I don't know.

>get run over by a car and beaten to death for being an AIDS spreading faggot
>cool death

top stuff mate

I think your fedoras are on too tight

Speaking of scat fetishes, is there any word for it that doesn't give you sexual pleasure, you just like it in a like-like way?

You got a cooler death in mind? go ahead

agree

>being run over by your own car and have your balls crushed is cool

what the fuck are you smoking kid? thats the opposite of cool, thats embarrassing as fuck.

These kids couldn't handle "Come and See"

nothing is more disturbing then things that actually happened

Don't worry, summer is almost over and then these faggots won't bother us anymore.

I suppose you just haven't seen many 1970's 'exploitation' films. There's about 50 'nunsploitation' films alone which show disturbing things based on may or may not have happened in convents throughout the ages. There are literally hundreds of (mainly European) films that show similar things. You should also read 120 Days of Sodom by Maquis De Sade. Obviously it wasn't written about Nazis, because they didn't exist back then, but he basically details the most deprived sexual activities imaginable. There's a good documentary about him, actually.

Being hit by the mob in a mysterious still unsolved death as opposed to dying of old age or cancer? yeah I find that pretty cool.

Thank god. I can't stand summerfags. Wake me up when September ends

>Come and See
What the fuck was so bad about it?

So he was basically an incel.

>mysterious

he was a degenerate pervert who made disgusting movies about scat eating, pedophilia, and child murder. who didn't want him dead?

Natalie Wood's death is more interesting

This shouldn't need to be explained.

Please get help.

I haven't actually seen it.

>But this was more than porn, it was rape, torture and the most disgusting perversions in my opinion
Rape and torture are extremely poplar forms of pornography.
>I'm not homophobic but I don't want to see penises, anal sex,
You sound like a prude.
>I don't understand the feces, bathing in it, making them eat it, pissing in their mouth
Again, it's a fetish. Are you that sheltered you've never heard of fetishes?
>the underage sex was upsetting
If this upsets you, don't read any history books mate.

>people still believe in summer fags
is this your first year on Sup Forums?

Best torture porn

youtube.com/watch?v=qCJEpFNxCOw

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Come_and_See

Was he the guy who married the crossdressing boy? Because that was /myguy/.

What the fuck do people think that war is? Did you guys not see Dunkirk? It's like that times god knows what.

Definitely would have posted on (old) Sup Forums, spamming his gore .gifs on every thread.

Caligula was framed by his enemies for most of the shit we now take as truths.
the winners write the history

Can someone redpill me on how the generals and high ranking officials doesn't put their foot down when soldiers try to rape women, etc?

>Caligula
My parents had this on VHS, for some reason. I remember watching it when I was about 13. Must have got about 20 faps out of it. Had to wait for them to go out and leave me home alone, as we only had one VHS player. You Internet kiddos don't know how hard we used to have it.