With physical labour being phased out and automation becoming the new way of production...

With physical labour being phased out and automation becoming the new way of production, why does the right fail to see that anything besides communism would be a good idea?

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>still believing in meme ideologies

Just become an anarcho -something if you want to be a special snowflake.

With physical labor being phased out and automation becoming the new way of production, why does the left still think it's a wise idea to adsorb tons of unskilled immigrants.

meme idealogies?

>actual anarchist

>importing workers

They're importing voters, my ninja.

>anything besides communism would be a good idea
I sort-of agree with you, but I feel like we're supposed to disagree.
Do you mean bad idea?

The reason for that picutre is that America has all the factories and we have all the actual $. We just need people to work the factories or the $ we have to make it grow. You can't grown something out of nothing. That's what Mexico has = $0. So 11 million of them are sitting aroud nuable to doannything.

>why didn't they help their economy
Because there is a demand for their work? They get paid more here?

Not putting the blame on the corporations for hiring these illegal immigrants is pretty dumb

Of course, but the trick is we need to get them to start admiring it.

Then it needs foreign investment and machinery to be sent to them, not lets bring them all here mentality. It is not a practical solution

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People still work different amounts even if it's not quite as physical as it used to be. I'd quit my job as a software architect if it meant that the facebook witches from the other department would get paid the same amount as I am, they literally do fuck all but browse facebook and drink coffee all day.

Scarcity would still exist.

What's the alternative? Companies continuing to hire illegals and move factories out of the country for cheaper production?

I put the blame on the people that made the conditions for this to take place. I don't blame illegal immigrants personally.

With physical labour being phased out and automation becoming the new way of production, why does the Left fail to see that anything besides Anarcho-Capitalism would be a good idea?

>implying the right won't into butlerian jihad

Because exploitation of the working class is the most profitable?

What working class? I thought automation was the new way of production?

There wont be any working class manufacturing jobs in 50 year, it'll all be done by robots.

>communism

Physical labor isn't being phased out.
We're merely seeing Capitalism exploit foreign labor, by exporting jobs to poor countries, those countries are ruled by Socialists. The reason this is important is that a Socialist country can easily abuse its laborers and steal their labor compared to a Capitalist one.

Notice that commie places still have some form of employment rates. All of their labor is exported to the 1st world capitalist countries through International Finance. Capitalism Vs Communism is a scam. Both give power to the same small international clique. A nation must put itself first, and no one else.

the robots will still need maintenance occasionally.

Which is why I was advocating anarcho-capitalism. Most people wont work in the future, its too hard for most people to study medicine or computer programming you think most people can pass those university classes?

In order to encourage them to study you need to pay them unlike OP and his communism

Fucking teenagers man..

That is the 1st stage of physical labor being phased out.

Manufacturing is being shipped out to countries with lower minimum wage and lower safety regulations. Industrialists will keep "country hopping" until finally machines can produce goods cheaper than workers can.

Then once machines can produce goods cheaper than a chineseman those factories will be driven out of business.

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I get that, but you also have to consider why socialist countries are forced to do so. With the amount of sanctions on socialist countries it's hard to get by.

But what about Cuba and their healthcare?

Cubans doctors live way better lives in cuba than Cuban cab drivers it ain't all equal.

You've actually got it the other way around

Itt people who've never worked at a factory or done physical labor in their lives.
I work as a manger at a fairly heavily automized factory. We used to not have many of our machines just 10 years ago, and back then we used to have so many people working here they had to expand the parking lot just to accommodate them all.
Nowadays the parking lot is usually only about 1/2 way full but we are also constantly understaffed by 10-12 people. Yes automation has eliminated alot of the physical jobs, but you still need operators to load and care for the machines, and the machines might i add, are extremely unreliable. Things may improve as technology progresses but hard labor wont be phased out in this century not by a long shot.

You are correct, everyone lives like a king in Cuba. That is why they turn trucks into boats to permanently vacation in the US.

I'm by no means saying automation is perfect, and I think your overestimating your time length, I see it as a very real possibility within the next twenty years or so.

Are you implying those fleeing aren't just bourgeois scum?

> Wanting to not wallow in your filth makes you scum

Things are changing. Jobs that were once done by hand can now be done faster by machine.

corporate.ford.com/innovation/100-years-moving-assembly-line.html

Read that, When Henry Ford started it took 12 hours to make 1 car, he changed things for it to take only 90 minutes per car.

Nowadays a factory can make 50+ cars a day with just a dozen operators. In 20 years with 3d printing and computers it can definitely be done.

No but not wanting to face justified punishment for sabotaging the economy for your own goals makes you scum

Because in communism there are no prices for anything, this makes economic calculation impossible which means that there will be constant shortages of goods and services.

Im pretty sure all the Bautista supporters are dead or withered. The only people leaving are people fed up with this bullshit.

In a centralized and bureaucratic market ya I guess.

You don't think maybe they're descendants of those supporters who have grown up supporting that idealogy?

Frist off it is not communism it is socialism. Secondly as we get more and more advanced we will have to become more and more socialist. There will simply not be enough good paying jobs to go around and cheap labor will be all but dead.

However this will happen over 100-150 years and be a fairly slow process before nearly all labor is phased except a few top job that are basically just overseeing this.

>implying there won't be more service and maintanence jobs

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when did I imply that

or... we could allow our population to slowly decline naturally to fit the smaller amount of jobs available in our advancing economy.

You idiots all sound like the luddites who thought cars would ruin the economy by putting all the people who trained horses and made horseshoes out of business.

At least post some evidence for your claims instead of just saying "All jobs will be gone because it makes sense in my retard mind"

Communism is just hyper-capitalism. Liberals (in the freedom loving sense) became progressive liberals (in the free shit sense); that's evidence of their evolution into communism. Karl Marx said capitalism would become communism.

To be honest, if I don't want communism, then maybe I don't want capitalism.

I want feudalism..
It's been in every part of the world for thousands and thousands of years.
The land you live on is owned by the lord who employs you; you pay for none of your necessities (the lord does it for you); if you don't work for him, he wont give you those necessities. Merchants exist unprotected by the lord, yet they make a living in sales. As there is no incentive to capitalize, people can't get fucked over; and as long as there is a king to make sure the lords are fair, the people will get a livable wage (and then some, based on how much they produce) in a surplus driven economy that produces more in a moral and efficient manner.

>capitalists who invested trillions of dollars into researching and implementing automation will just hand over ownership of the means of production to the proletariat
Even if the masses vote in congressmen who would pass a bill, it would be challenged as theft and be overturned by the courts.

Then we won't take it peacefully.

I think the general increase in welfare recipients is enough proof. Too many below average people who can't get skilled work. These people use to dig ditches or pump gas. Now they work in the retail and fast food market that is quickly being automated as well.