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What is the weakest and most cucked ideology and why is it libertarianism?

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>AM I BEING DETAINED?!?!?!

>plz no steppy mr. gubment

Conservatism

National Socialism

this is what Gary DUDE WEED LMAO (((No Borders))) Johnson thinks society should look like

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>Johnson
>believing people have the right to own guns

>15% in the polls
>weakest
kek

I can't wait for Gary Johnson to steamroll Hillary and Trump in the debates.

is a meme for manchildren

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>I can't wait for Gary Johnson to steamroll Hillary and Trump in the debates.

Can't tell if trolling, but this is a really funny meme you have.

It's almost like when delusional Berniefags thought they could actually win.

Because they believe that people and businesses would not go and fuck each other over to the maximum if there was no government interference to stop them.

What is it called when you support large government, but a fine line separating government from business? Healthcare should be nationalized, regulatory agencies need to be headed by scientists and engineers, not former corporate executives, and lobbying and privatization of public services should be completely banned.

I must have missed the part where Bernie was somehow a great orator, participated in any debates, or had any policy proposal that wasn't complete garbage.

He's not gonna make the debates, dumb nigger

>work on warehouse with metal detector security guards at the entrance
>waiting in line for my turn
>belt buckle on dude sets off the detector, says it's belt
>asks if he's good to go
>"Yeah, don't worry, you're not being detained."

>almost lost my shit in front of a bunch of normies

Thanks, Sup Forums.

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will there even be debates?

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It always amazes me that in 4 years a large portion of Sup Forums went from nationalist/libertarians who were suspicious of giving the government eny more power than they have now, to "hurr muh degeneracy gonna have an all powerful alt right government that will never ever ever turn against me because im white"

Fresh off of google images.

Protestantism is the most cucked ideology.

>Judeo-Christian values

Kek.

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>its a government shill shitposting about the only ideology that threatens their worthless jobs thread

Kys braindead cattle.

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This is the most delusiouned projecting post on the internet and I have saved a screenshot of it for the future.

fuck off gary

>Gary lover claiming someone else is gary lover

Oh my god you cuckold CTR shills are so insane now I don't even know how to communicate with you without rhetoric.

>Philoshopy of individual freedom, personal responsibility, self ownership, and competitiveness.
>Strongly opposes political correctness and Marxism.
>Cares about economy while the left and right argue about non issues because "muh feels."

Tell me again how Libertarians are the cucked ones?

What happened to the old Sup Forums that was pro Ron Paul? Have you forgotten?

But he went on the everest.

The idea of no borders and no government restrictions on trade is what we call "cucked". As in, you have openly allowed the dark man to come in and rape your women/race/culture because of "muh limited government".

Hence, you are a cuckbertarian.

We need a strong government to secure a future for our people and make sure no degeneracy takes root in our culture.

those days are over, user
press F to pay respects

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>get BTFO in one thread
>start a new thread to cry about getting BTFO

>wants people to spoil Trump's vote by voting for Gary
>promoting cucked ideology
>calls others CTR shills

Didn't know you faggots had aussie proxies, I thought it was mostly leaf proxies.

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>Healthcare should be nationalized, regulatory agencies need to be headed by scientists and engineers, not former corporate executives, and lobbying and privatization of public services should be completely banned.

The strong government you have currently is fucking you in the ass and causing all those problems.

>Unproductive third-world migrants.
What is the welfare state?

indeed. people like OP are truly the most cucked among us.

I'm beginning to lose all hope that we are ever going to save this country, so libertarianism seems pretty good anyway. I might never get a family, a culture or a proud people, but at least I will have money and be able to do whatever I want while Mohammed fucks my girlfriend.

We are never going to get enough people on board with anti-immigration.

>whatever I don't like is cucked
>is a cuckbertarian

you're doing it wrong

Well I guess we've seen that contrary to what you implied in the other thread, most of Sup Forums doesn't agree with your ultra-cucked "need big daddy government to take care of me and protect me from cradle to grave" ideology.

You don't seem to be able to wrap your head around the fact that you can have libertarianism without open borders either. What a stupid fuck.

yes, lick the state boot! All glory to authority! I am such a weak individual that i would literally die with less government!

>most of Sup Forums doesn't agree with your ultra-cucked "need big daddy government to take care of me and protect me from cradle to grave" ideology

did you join the internet last night? haven't you heard? Sup Forums is a Swedish neo-nazi frog forum

>you can have libertarianism without open borders

I thought you were against big gubment intervention? Do you also oppose free trade and favor big gubment restrictions on abortion?

Just curious as to what you think "libertarianism" is, why you decided last week to become "libertarian" and how you reconcile it with your actual views? There seems to be some serious internal conflict going on here.

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>I thought you were against big gubment intervention?

Enforcing the law isn't "big gubment intervention". Libertarian nationalism is not contradictory.

>Do you also oppose free trade

No.

>favor big gubment restrictions on abortion?

I oppose abortion after the fetus is far along enough to survive outside of the mother's body.

>Just curious as to what you think "libertarianism" is

My view of it is having a proverbial "night watchman state"

>why you decided last week to become "libertarian"

I'm 33 and I've consider myself to be a libertarian for my entire adult life.

>There seems to be some serious internal conflict going on here.

Not at all. I'm a consequentialist libertarian, not a deontological "MUH NAP" libertarian.

>Enforcing the law isn't "big gubment intervention".

It is a government restriction on the movement of people.

>Libertarian nationalism is not contradictory.

The first open border movements were "libertarian". Your version is a recent invention that isn't consistent with historical usage of the term. Not that I'm going to bash your version, but it isn't consistent with the principles of libertarianism.

>No on opposing free trade

Then you are a cuck.

>I oppose abortion after the fetus is far along enough to survive outside of the mother's body.

Big gubment restriction

>My view of it is having a proverbial "night watchman state"

So, you've made up your own version

>I'm 33 and I've consider myself to be a libertarian for my entire adult life.

This is fascinating, because what "libertarian" meant 15 years ago was radically different from your patched-together version.

>I'm a consequentialist libertarian, not a deontological "MUH NAP" libertarian.

You're all cuckbertarians, you've just come up with some weird version that isn't consistent and likely found others who validate your inconsistent principles. You can keep calling it "libertarianism", I actually support that kind of subversion, but understand what it actually is.

Come to the light user.

>So, you've made up your own version

Uhh, no. The "you're only a true libertarian if you're an ANARCHIST" form of autism isn't new, but it's only come to prominence in the last few years. I recognize that's about as long as you've been aware of the philosophy though.

>Come to the light user.

I'm already their. You're a mental retard, I want nothing to do with you.

I meant to say I'm already there.

Post the bdsm one

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I identify with more of liberalism then the other two major parties, but there is no perfect ideology, the world can't work with a singular extreme ideology.

Libertarians, like Communists, blithely ignore human nature and disregard the reality that without restraints on the wealth and power of corporations, they somehow won’t fuck Humanity over…

>The "you're only a true libertarian if you're an ANARCHIST" form of autism isn't new,

There are anarchists and there are minarchists.

You would be closer to a minarchist, but still not consistent with Nozick or any others really. You've patched in additional big gubment give-ins into your ideology.

>but it's only come to prominence in the last few years. I recognize that's about as long as you've been aware of the philosophy though.

No, no you sound like you became a libertarian last week.

Have you read any "libertarian" works? and if so, what?

>I'm already their.

There.

>still not consistent with Nozick or any others really

I'm fully consistent with Milton Friedman's idea of libertarianism.

>You've patched in additional big gubment give-ins into your ideology.

Not in the slightest.

>Have you read any "libertarian" works?

Yes, economics textbooks.

My sides are entering Pluto's orbit right about now

Depends. Right libertarianism is a sociopathic dipshit ideology, but left libertarianism is the only right way to move forward as a species.

Think about it. It's the only true antidote to the disgusting authoritarian left/SJW/third wave feminist diarrhea plaguing the world.

Being a compassionate human being AND respecting our rights of free speech, free expression, 2nd amendment, etc.? The only reason you'd disagree is if you're an angsty teenager, a theocrat, or a fascist.

>I'm fully consistent with Milton Friedman's idea of libertarianism.

You're a Friedmanite, a Chicago school advocate. Why is that Friedman ridiculed all the other libertarian thinkers, and why did none of them accept him as one of their own?

>Not in the slightest.

You've just listed at least three big gubment positions that aren't consistent with libertarianism.

>Yes, economics textbooks.

Your response leads me to believe that you have not read any libertarian works nor any economics textbooks.

Do you not realize how idiotic your reply sounds to anyone who has stepped foot in an econ course? What the absolute fuck are you talking about here user?

That last one is topkek, thanks for that one.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unintended_consequences

Utopia isn't possible you retard.

Why do people flee North Korea?

Is it because less oppressive systems are "better"? Or, is this just stupid Utopianism?

this one triggers cuckbertarians

>Why is that Friedman ridiculed all the other libertarian thinkers, and why did none of them accept him as one of their own?

He didn't, and many of them did. Rothbard is pretty much the only exception.

>You've just listed at least three big gubment positions that aren't consistent with libertarianism.

Except that they are. I already explained that I'm a consequentialist libertarian. Look it up.

>Your response leads me to believe that you have not read any libertarian works nor any economics textbooks.

I have degrees in economics and math. I read Sowell, Friedman, Hayek, Adam Smith, etc. I've even read some Mises, but it wasn't really my cup of tea.

>Do you not realize how idiotic your reply sounds to anyone who has stepped foot in an econ course?

Says the complete and total moron who opposes free trade.

>What the absolute fuck are you talking about here user?

That my understanding of how the economy works strengthened my belief in small government that interferes as little as possible in the functioning of the market.

It's plainly obvious that you're incredibly insecure in your political philosophy and some guy who used to be an ancap and then went full retard.

>left libertarianism
>not oppressive

what?

Libertarianism assumes that everyone wants the enormously massive burden of responsibility that is freedom. I'd say only 10% of people or less show any sign of being remotely close. All pol users are excluded from that 10%.

I fail to see how libertarians are cucks or weak, they have tons of guns and are often self-reliant. Opposite of being cuck and weak.

Yeah... Personal liberty and individual reliance... So "cucked."

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>Sowell, Friedman, Hayek, Adam Smith, etc. I've even read some Mises

Last I checked, none of these people wrote economics textbooks.

Please tell me more about these "libertarian" economics textbooks you read? user?

>I have degrees in economics and math.

Oh that's great user, but what kind of "libertarian" economics textbooks did they use in your econ courses for your totally real and definitely not fantasy degree in economics?

>Says the complete and total moron who opposes free trade.

Maybe you did take econ, to be fair I only took micro and macro to fulfill prereqs. What do I know, right? You're the "libertarian", so you must be an expert because the internet.

>some guy who used to be an ancap

Sup Forums is where ancaps come to die and realize that deep down inside, they are actually fascists. The good thing is user, you are already half-way there!

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Has "cucked" taken on a different meaning now that we have a bunch of newfags visiting?

Open Borders > Cucked
Free Trade > Cucked
No Laws To Enforce Cultural Values > Cucked

Here you go user, you sick bastard.

All time fav

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>I don't understand the deeper meaning in behind the word "cuck"

Cuck just means someone who lets others walk all over them.

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Here you go friend it's all yours.

>Please tell me more about these "libertarian" economics textbooks you read? user?

I never said they were "libertarian" economics textbooks. The implication I was making is that an economics education tends to make people better understand that interfering with the free market is often a fool's errand that results in worse outcomes. Sorry you weren't bright enough to pick up on that implication.

Then again, I had Chicago School macro professors who eschewed Keynesianism. So other people's mileage may vary.

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No, no you are very confused newfag. "Cuck" means that you openly invite the dark man to have his way with your wife/culture/nation via open borders, free trade, legalized drugs etc...

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Selfish libertarians selling their own people out.

How come the libertarians always say "me me me me me" all the time?

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>pol/ is where ancaps come to die and realize that deep down inside, they are actually fascists.
Sure, the weaker minded ones. Actually with all the statistics here I've become far more libertarian. There's too much evidence that taking freedoms away leads to shitty consequences. For example, fascistic drug wars cause more problems than they're even capable of solving. Do you know the CIA and DEA actively support people selling drugs so they can get more taxpayer money? Fascism is the emotionalist part of the right, libertarianism is far more reasonable as long as there's an element of nativism and realpolitik.

It's from the new york times

>I never said

But user, you did say. Right here... Better delete all your posts and your internet account before anyone else sees.

>The implication I was making is that an economics education tends to make people better understand that interfering with the free market is often a fool's errand that results in worse outcomes. Sorry you weren't bright enough to pick up on that implication.

Topkek

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Because their ideology is subjective. They think that because they would be able to handle themselves in a libertarian society, everybody else would. They have no concept of natural hierarchy and leadership because they see all people as having the potential to reach their level of self-control and self-governance.

Libertarianism is an interesting concept and we need them in a functioning society to act as contrarians, pointing out the faults in hierarchy and order but they should no way be taken seriously as a legitimate form of government.

25 post and counting, not one of them is an argument and all of them have baby's first meme attached.

We get it, you are a National Socialist wannabe Bernout. You would be sucking Bernies cock all year if you were just a little less autistic.

My point, as I thoroughly explained, was that economics textbooks are inherently libertarian. Sorry you missed that point moron.

>They think that because they would be able to handle themselves in a libertarian society, everybody else would. They have no concept of natural hierarchy and leadership because they see all people as having the potential to reach their level of self-control and self-governance.

Nice strawman.

And thus the Swedes would continue to invite those poor poor refugees into their homes as mandated by their benevolent and caring government.

>triggered

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No Libertarian that would be smart enough to get into office would dismantle EVERY SINGLE social program. We obviously need some wiggle room and safety nets. Right now the problem is that it is still too easy and not enough disincentives for the poor to procreate.

The poor in our countries are not poor in the slightest if you take into account the worlds average quality of life.

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