Kratom Banned

The Pharma Jew is at it again.

This plant literally saved me from being a jobless NEET cause it lets me work without unbearable back pain and major depression. The DEA is literally thousands of people with this cause they will go back to heroin, benzos, oxy, etc..

No doubt the hand rubbing merchants are behind this and the benefit is that I will now have extra cash for bullets and an AR. Once again Jews have fcked me personally.

Hopefully someone will dig the names of the Jews responsible and I will crave the names of these kikes into every bullet of a magazine named for each these fuckers.

I used to somewhat moderate on question of Jews. I thought maybe we could confine to Isreal and simply ignore while go into space after we have our own ethnostates.

Now I'm full 14/88. These fuckers have to die. Gas every single one these amoral shekel grubbing stinking ugly sweaty Fucks and hang that stupid King Nigger too and then throw the corpse into ocean in the tradition Islam.

Here's the useless net petition for what it is worth: petitions.whitehouse.gov//petition/please-do-not-make-kratom-schedule-i-substance?utm_source=remarkety&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Newsletter_15&_rmId=JZ90BMQWgpHp1lzBMzRptjOjG81Ajy

forbes.com/sites/davidkroll/2016/08/30/dea-to-place-kratom-mitragynine-on-schedule-i-premature-move-may-compromise-research-benefits/#28f56d047924

>these fuckers have to die
>petition
great plan

>Kratom

Does it help with anxiety?

This, at least petition Obama to gas the kikes or something

The FBI will be arriving shortly.

>petition Obama to gas the kikes
it would be hilarious if someone had to read petitions out loud at the white house

I find your anti-Semitism and anti-Obama sentiment to be quite alarming. But do tell me more about how Kratom helped you. I also have major depression.

Yes, it helps with anxiety, depression, pain, addiction.

It's pasta faggot

Isn't that the shit russians are making that causes their body parts to rot off? How is this a problem?

You're thinking of krokodil

I was thinking about buying some last year. Oh well.

just inject 200mL of heroin, its the same outcome for you.

That's Krokodil

Then what the fuck is kratom? I like drugs and I've never heard of it, desu senpai.

And yes, I want someone to spoonfeed me.

I've known 5 people who've used it to come off of heroin without more expensive addictive drugs. I myself use it instead of taking antidepressants. I was diagnosed with major depression a long time ago. It helps with motivation and mood a lot in my experience. It can give you minor withdrawals, so I rotate it with tianeptine every day.

Heroin has been a difficult one for me to find here in SE Texas. I've tried just about every other illicit drug.

I don't know myself, first time hearing of it

Open wide, user.

Though not an opiate itself, kratom is thought to behave similarly to a μ-opioid receptor agonist like morphine.[4] It is not deemed to have any legitimate medical uses.[5] Some people use it for managing chronic pain as well as recreationally.[6] Effects last for between two and five hours.[5] Kratom use is not detected by typical drug screening tests, but its metabolites can be detected by more specialized testing.[7][8] Its efficacy and safety are not well-studied.

Kratom has been traditionally chewed, in raw leaf form, by people in Thailand and especially in the southern peninsula.[3] Kratom is often used by workers in laborious or monotonous professions to stave off exhaustion as well as a mood enhancer and/or painkiller. Kratom is also used in neighboring countries in Southeast Asia where it grows naturally.[3] Kratom has been used in Thailand as a form of traditional medicine as an antidiarrhoeal, as a treatment for opioid use disorder, and for premature ejaculation during sexual intercourse.[15] As traditionally used, kratom is not seen as a drug and there is often no stigma associated with kratom use or discrimination against kratom users.[3] In Southern Thailand, kratom has been a part of traditional culture and is common in cultural performances and agriculture.[16][17] A fresh leaf weighs on average 2 grams, which may contain as much as 79 mg of mitragynine,[18] with the average number of leaves consumed daily between 10 and 60 leaves. In some areas of Southern Thailand, kratom is often referred to by the street name P̄hī "Goblin". Kratom leaves may also be brewed as a tisane.

Huh. Are there any other similar drugs that the feds havent banned yet? I'd love to get legally blown out.

It's an East Asian plant that's popular in Malaysia and Indonesia that the locals have been using for thousands of years. Entrepreneurs there prefer their workers take kratom because kratom users work harder. It has Mytragynine. as it's main opiod akaloid. It's pretty mild compared to most opiates. It is most comparable to hydrocodone.

you still have thirty days to acquire and use it legally

Yeah this is a great example of over reaching, making a problem out of something that's literally not a problem for anyone.

Maybe besides the big pharma people, but still, Kratom's not a popular thing, it's not their losing millions in sales to it. Hell I think this is just the DEA giving themselves something to do and pat themselves on the back for.

If you can, try salvia. Smoking a bowl of 40X extract will give you a religious experience akin to reading the bible 6+ times and legitimately believing it.Prepare to see existence, prepare to see the great all encompassing everything and instantly get over all of your personal problems for life. Watch rob bryanton's lectures on dimensions to get an idea of what you'll see.

It isn't illegal until September 30th, so you will have time to order some if you desire.

Krokodile is a mix of cleaners and shit they inject. Its a cheap high. You may as well inject turpentine.

is it possible to grow in a greenhouse?

What are some sources that you guys get your kratom from? How does it compare to something like Phenibut or Ashwagandha?

I can't have edibles anymore ever since I got an anxiety attack from this indica extract oil tincture that I bought a while back, so is it as good as the lmaoleaf?

>If you can, try salvia.
I smoked that shit in highschool. I was a lego man for 20 minutes. Not really something I ever enjoyed.

>It is most comparable to hydrocodone.
In that you get a decent buzz or what?

>Phenibut
surprisingly similar effects, a bit more concentrated

if you've ever had weed edibles after a meal and gotten the pleasant internal tingling without a full-on high, that's what it's like. The red strain is a bit more powerful if you want a cannabis-esque high.

worth a try, decently cheap. moonkratom.com

I did lots of research to find a solution to my chronic pain with the least possibility of addiction so you you dare go on your high horse about addiction when you a probably an obese porn abusing, cheese eating, caffine addicted video game chan abusing NEET.

I used to a 325 lbs fat fuck NEET until I started using, lost weight, got fit, and got a job. I did that because that plant is medicine.

I use kratom as pre-work as it contain Yohimbine.

If you any of /fit/ people have every used a pre-workout with caffine and yohimbine with a pain killer you've are essentially a kratom addict but without the benefits of healthy antioxidents, phenols, and antinflamitories compounds.

Most pre-workout are are much worse and more addicting than Kratom.

RedBull and Monster abuse is more common than Kratom abuse could every be and far more deadly because caffine doesn't have a built in limiter.

Kratom is less addicting or dangerous than coffee and in fact it cousin of coffee. The DEA is basically calling coffee heroin.

If you use too much you'll throw up so you can't overdose. I only use because of major pain issues. I can get and I'm much more likely abuse opiates.

You "herbal Jews" Pharma kikes are stupid as Fck or must be mormons cause basically you have banned a energy tea. It is traditionally used to get people off opiates and treat addictions.

Nobody smokes this stuff. You drink it or take capsules. It doesn't damage your health in anyway and has all benefits of drinking herbal Teen. The DEA will probably ban Yeba Mate next cause sure some Mormon/Jew will get will run a few media scare story about how Yeba Mate is literally LSD or or something and "herbal Jew" will buy that bullshit cause you like being told what to do by funny underwear people.

I used to think it was a good buzz. Now it's just a nice body/head change. Tolerance picks up fast and takes about to month to go back to normal. You can make tolerance go up slower by switching strains.

Of all the things to ban, they ban something nobody has heard of before that barely does anything at all that some people value for whatever reason. What a farce. Of all the ridiculous things to ban. I could think of several much worse thinks that are just a fucking leaf and also prevalent that should be banned first.

BUY YOUR CONTRACT SO YOU CAN GET YOUR PILLS GOYIM

What a joke.

Hearing about it being banned sucks but, meh. I tried Kratom a bunch in the past and found it just too hard to injest. There's no real good way to take a decent enough dosage. The high was on par with OC and other opiates though. I was very surprised it was legal.

>yerba mate getting banned
/gauchouprising/ when?

Fuck, this isn't good. My parents basically rely on this stuff to manage chronic pain. They were both in a bad car accident 15 years ago and kratom finally got them off the pain pills.

Really saddening and somewhat frightening news.

Wait, if they can ban leafs why haven't they banned Canada yet? Lets wee the people to schedule Canada as a schedule 1 drug.

Gel capsules are probably the best way if it upsets your stomach or you dislike the taste

Because Canada elected dude weed lmao. Now everybody in Canada has weed, and you can't ban him.

Tried that. You have to take like 10 of the largest capsules to get the recommended dosage for an adult male. Fucking sucks downing that many pills at once.

>30 seconds of mild discomfort swallowing pills one-by-one

fag

Or you could just man up mix it with something and slam it down. Use a chaser if you have to. 100% guaranteed to work especially if you heat it up.

What the fuck are you pillfags taking? I got bad reactions just drinking too much of it like tea, which didn't even taste bad.

It's not a real drug as far as real drugs go. Are you the kind of person who gets brain damaged from "spice?" Are you in to crack as well?

Don't worry kid. Just do what I do and put a golf ball sized amount in a paper towel and plug it.

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>Are you the kind of person who gets brain damaged from "spice?"
Lel I smoked spice in highschool when it first got popular, before they started banning the chemicals. When it was jwh18 it was pretty good, almost like pot. When they made the illegal and they started changing what they put in it, it started getting crazy. The last time I smoked it was probably 3-4 years ago. Shit called mad hatter. I hit the bong, and stood staring at a couch trying to figure out what it was, trying to remember my name and all sorts of other shit.

My point is, spice can fuck you up real good. It wouldn't surprise me if it really did damage your brain when you smoked a lot.

It takes less than 2 minutes to comfortably take the pills one by one

I've been using this for a year to treat my IBS
before that I had been taking 6-8 Immodium tablets a DAY.
This is complete BULLSHIT

From the sounds of it you fucked your brain up smoking a little

What they're doing to kids these days with drugs, both legal and illegal is terrible. No rational person would turn to that. That's krokodil-tier.

I don't think you fucks understand. I did all that shit for about four months. It became a chore having to do all that shit over and over again to get high for 6-8 hours. Suck my dick faggots.

Buy loporamide, it's the active ingredient in the brand name immodium

This is a reminder that our government no longer functions correctly. This is the executive branch creating laws and destroying lives. This is a agency staffed with people who we did not vote for, and did not give consent to create laws. These are not democratically elected representatives. This is an insurgent force waging a coup without ever needing to fire a shot.

They decree something is illegal then use their power to force Americans to obey them.

The ATF, DEA, FDA, FCC, EPA. They are creating laws and bypassing the checks and balances. Does King Nigger stop this? No. He pushes the boundaries more. The executive branch has decided that they dont need the other two branches.

This, more than anything, more than the Clinton shit, more than the spying shit, shows that the Federal Government is out of control.

They will use their positions to control us unless we stand against this grave misuse of power. There is no mechanic to remove these people peacefully.

Nobody cares.

MAGA or nothing.

No worries, mate. That's why I pointed out that kratom is not even a real drug worth caring about.

It's the kind of thing you have to be really and truly desperate to abuse.

Next up is Tianeptine, just wait.

Nah, I'm just very drunk tonight.

Idk, kids now are more into big pharmas pills. Unless thats what you meant.

fuck off fag

yerba mate getting banned, kek, literally 80% of all argies and neighbor countries are hooked up 24/7.

It's not going to get banned. This sounds like a ((tactic)) to bring more attention to it.

Put Kratom in Vitamin shops.

Price it for mass distribution
???
Profit

It has benzo tier antianxiety. Opiod tier pain killing. And cannabis level antidepressant.

It's about as addictive as green tea. And has a stimulant effect like caffeine without the jitters.

Pretty obvious why they don't like it.

This Pharma/Big Government collusion must stop.

>kids now are more into big pharmas pills.
Yes, that's what I meant. I was in school during the transition from pills being shameful to being the most popular nobody who could slide some pills around for a buck, to everybody trying to have the most exotic scripts and best pills.

Not the first time the drug trade had taken down a civilization for profit. That's why the Brits invented HSBC.

I WAS buying it in generic bulk from costco
I had hemmroids, massive constipation etc including abdominal pain, because I had given up on my doctors who were unable to treat this with any success, and it was just draining my bank account to keep going to them, buying the latest fanciest pill and shit.
Kratom fixed that, it liberated me, I just take a couple caps in the morning and I am set until I get off work, take a couple more, and it made me feel better to boot.
Fucking shits, they are turning a law abiding citizen into a criminal over a fucking plant.

You didn't understand the full extent of what was going on so your mind just associated things with "you". I'm trying to get you to step outside yourself, your life and this reality.

Try kava OP. Google kavaforums for reputable information, vendors, and nice people. No hippy vibe either.

Is kratom addictive ? how does it make someone feel?
Can I view it the same as coffee?

I literally have no idea bit I'm interested in trying it now.

My only suggestion then user is to bulk buy as much as you can afford and research exponentiation to make it last as long as possible

I've done my fair share of tripping, leaf. Salvia was just a shitty trip.

It is fucking amazing, mild stimulation a bit of that warm fuzzy feeling.
I've been taking it daily since last november when I discovered it.
I can afford more in 24 hours
gonna drop my whole paycheck on it, because I have enough cash to float me till the 15th on

I implore you to try again. Try watching rob bryanton first.

>having trouble finding heroin

Are you sure you're in america?

It's not meant to be smoked at 30xxx concentrate extract so you can think you're taking DMT like an OG badass or something.

The extremists always ruin something relatively unknown and not dangerous by taking it overboard.

well this is rather unfortunate. I always wanted to know if there were any long term adverse effects, but I guess we'll never know now.

So why not just grow some? Buy seeds

Its not addictive for most people. Its used to get people who are addicted off of other shit.

It has a light body high. It tastes like pure shit. You can make a tea out of it, but the most potent way to take it is to take the powder and knock it back with a drink. Like a powdered aspirin.

Theres no harm in trying it. It may help you or you may just go "meh"

I've smoked DMT too. Doesn't even kind of compare to salvia. Salvia just sucked. We were smoking like 20x or some shit. I was a lego man, one of my buddies was on fire and the other was falling out of an airplane.

Nah, I'm good on salvia desu senpai.

okay, the question everyone's been dying to ask:

can you vape it?

Takes a few years for them to mature, seeds are hard as fuck to get and many sellers are distributing relatives of the plant as M. Speciosa.
I've tried to no avail I live in a shitty climate
this really fucking sucks because I finally was free from getting liquid shits and explosive diarrhea for seemingly no reason, I got off of immodium which was causing me severe discomfort and pain just to avoid the previous symptoms.
Guess it is back to constipation hell for me, gonna renew my costco membership so I can buy 400 lope pills at a time for 5 bucks.
Fuck me

Yeah, I'll basically have to switch to kava and blue lotus. Now I'll have to learn a new proportion of cocoa butter to use in suppositories.

Anyone have any experience with this and social anxiety? Just started medicating with products that are harmless (that we know of) and I'm trying to diversify my medications to avoid addictions and bodily harm.

Myself and my BFF used Kratom to kick our Opioid habits.

My BFF never had real pain, I fucked up my back working in a factory after highschool.

Kratom helped me kick a 20+ Tramadol per day habit, I was also taking Vicodin, oxy, and morphine.
I had a 180 pill per month prescription to trams, and sometimes I would get RX for Vicodin, when I would tell my doctor it wasn't working any more.

Long story shot, Kratom helped me stop being degenerate. Then I quit Kratom, and started doing Yoga for my back and lifting weights for endorphins. I left factory work and went to university and I refuse to take any feel good pain pills now.

I will not take them.
Haven't taken Kratom or any narco pills in 4 years, and I just rehabed a slipped disc in my back with only ibuprofen and yoga.

My friend, still takes Kratom for fun, but stopped buying pain pills from dealers.

People sell kratom juice. You can make your own too.

>kratom juice
the future of drugs on the internet is radical.

The mild high relaxes you, which may help with that. I get pretty bad social anxiety but I dont take drugs in public so I cant really say for sure.

There is nothing OG or badass about it. I honestly did it not fully knowing the extent of what would happen and have been led into a world of understanding that I cannot possibly repay the friend who helped me try it for.

I'd also highly recommend you research exponentiation, I've got some stuff that might help you out, I'll try and find it now

I think it's pretty tasty. It tastes just like the dried grass I used to eat as a kid.

Yes, and it's great for social anxiety. One of my buddies wouldn't leave his house from anxiety until he started taking kratom. I actually want to talk to people when I take it and I never want to talk to people.

It's not addictive unless you have a very addictive personality. I would say its effects are maybe 5x as "intense" as those of caffeine (not to compare the actual effects). For reference I'd say the effects of weed are 15x as "intense" of those of kratom.

GUYS
LET'S GET Martin Skhreli!
SEND HIM AFTER DEA AND PHARMA

Buy illegally or grow it yourself

Probably will be cheaper without jew taxes anyways

I've got a shitload of Agmatine which I use for weekends, when I use Kratom for recreation. Like I said, this is the one thing that has Liberated me from IBS and then Immodium, Immodium fucked up my gut receptors probably permanently, because I was taking it for YEARS, at least 5 years....
Fucking hell, and I just got a decent job too.

It can't be grown inside of the states and the import market for it would be too small for people to risk illegally importing it compared to the more profitable opiates

Where can I get this? It sounds a whole hell of a lot better than subs or methadone

>hopping on right when the gravy train is about to derail

makes me sad tbqh senpai

>Used to mix kratom with my coffee in the morning
>Picked me the fuck up better than anything else i've tried
>Made my day alot better
>Helped with ankle pains
>I could quit it with no withdrawal effects whenever i wanted
>Its 100% natural

I don't do it anymore, but that coffee and White meng da speedball in the mornings was a fucking godsend at the time.

I'm getting real fucking sick of the DEA and FDA.

not really that addictive

dude coffee has never really helped me much, because im always exhausted without doing anything and idk why, but kratom makes me feel like a normal person. It gives me energy like nothing else does, and it makes me feel like an actual human being. I'm really gonna miss it

Ive read numerous studies that kava is bad for the liver. any thing from a health food store with kava has a warning on the bottle

For all my Southside niggas that know me best
I feel like me and Kratom might still have sex
Why? I made that bitch famous (God damn)
I made that bitch famous