More than 7,000 suicides were reported in Berlin in 1945...

>More than 7,000 suicides were reported in Berlin in 1945, but it is thought that many suicides went unreported due to the chaos of the post-war period


Did the easterlings, orcs, etc. commit mass suicide after the defeat of Sauron like germans committed mass suicide after the Hitler killed himself and they realized they were going to lose the war? In the books Gandalf says something about only those who follow Sauron committing suicide when commenting on Denethor's death.

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>comparing real life to nerd fantasy trite
reddit thread

>not seeing the parallels between Mordor and Nazi Germany

I bet you think GoT is still a good show

Did Aragon pursue a policy of systematic Orc genocide? Even the little baby orcs in their little orc cradles?
These are the questions that the hack Tolkien will never answer.

>bringing up game of redditors like it's relevant
ok reddit bye reddit

IIRC Aragorn pursued a policy of peace and cooperation with the human tribes that had been under Sauron's tyranny. Orcs were just irredeemable since the First Age since they're elves that got their mind broken to the point of no repair possible.

>hitler's face cut off

Is that photo real? It looks way too artistic.

>implying the orcs didnt go back to being humble farmers and fishermen

>In the days that followed his crowning the King sat on his throne in the Hall of the Kings and pronounced his judgments. And embassies came from many lands and peoples, from the East and the South, and from the borders of Mirkwood, and from Dunland in the west. And the King pardoned the Easterlings that had given themselves up, and sent them away free, and he made peace with the peoples of Harad; and the slaves of Mordor he released and gave to them all the lands about Lake Núrnen to be their own.

They're real. This is the Deputy Mayor of Leipzig and his wife and daughter, who committed suicide in the Neues Rathaus as American troops were entering the city on 20 April 1945.

it's a fairly famous photo by a renowned photographer.

>still not a single word about his tax policy
So are we just to believe everything worked out alright? What about the orks who lived near Lake Núrnen? Were they just sent away?
How did he tax the slaves anyway?

"slaves of Mordor" refers to subjugated humans. It is a point in Tolkien's works that Orcs are not redeemable. They're not a race of their own, they're Elves who got fucked too bad. Think an heroin addict who is too brain damaged to quit.

So he just killed the orcs and took away their little orc farms?

good, the weak should fear the strong.

same video your picture is from tells that the americans and british had similar assumptions about soviet industry capabilities so are you saying americans are stupid too?

man, what if the soviets just decided they'd like to keep on going once they'd taken berlin?
could they be stopped?

reminder that himmler was killed and not suicide

>All those dead german qts
Sad

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Unthinkable

No, but Orcs were genocided by the "good" guys

yes, not being able to estimate your enemy is dumb.

nothing would have stopped them, not even nukes.
americans didn't have so many of them in the beginning and at the time when they would have enough the Soviets would have already stood in spain.

Orcs don't have farms or other means of self-sustenance just like heroin addicts can't keep jobs for long: both are too brain-damaged to maintain either. Orcs on LotR get by by raiding and looting (when on their own) or usurping human farmers who have been subjugated by Sauron. They aren't capable or growing things and creating anything that's not an instrument of death or torture, so they have to leech off the labor of others. IIRC it was Rhun and the Easterling lands that fed Mordor and its people.

>Orcs made no beautiful things, but many clever ones including machines, tools, weapons, and instruments of torture, were delighted by wheels, engines, and explosions, and could tunnel and mine as well as any but the most skilled Dwarves.[4] This was so since the day they were bred by Melkor from corrupted, tortured and mutilated Men. They hate themselves and have an even deeper hatred of the Dark Lord who has brought them to this end. The result is a violent and warlike race in a perpetual state of chaos with itself and others. Despite their abominable nature, they are not dim-witted and are clever and crafty and make good tools, weapons, and machines of war but produce no beautiful things nor do they trade or share anything with others, unless ordered to by a Dark Lord for the purposes of war and conquest. Their tools and weapons, however, are of poor quality when compared to those of the Free Peoples.

Kinda like how an heroin addict is crafty at stealing and killing people in order to get his dose, but ask him to hold a simple job and he breaks down completely.

>Sup Forums - Television & Film

so basically the ruskies fucked up by sitting there and waiting?

Fuck off to
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yup

Likening orcs to nazis doesn't work because orcs are unintelligent and primitive

I don't really think Tolkien's orcs farm. They steal and hunt and gather.

Farming is totally beyond their ability, they are too stupid to even keep slaves to farm for them.

The only way to gather them in such huge concentrations is to dedicate a continent spanning empire to supporting them.

So without food and Sauron's will to help control them, and being in a total panic, a lot of orcs probably killed each other in the ensuing months.

>I never read LotR: the post

Just like Drumphtards hahahaha

It's not that they're stupid, it's that they hate themselves and everything around them too much to be capable of creating/growing stuff.

It's true that they killed each other in a panic though. It was Easterlings (humans allied to Sauron) who proved to be the most tenacious of Sauron's soldiers, continuing to fight even after the destruction of the Ring until they got subdued - but still getting peace treaties in the end and all.

>But the Men of Rhûn and of Harad, Easterling and Southron, saw the ruin of their war and the great majesty and glory of the Captains of the West. And those that were deepest and longest in evil servitude, hating the West, and yet were men proud and bold, in their turn now gathered themselves for a last stand of desperate battle. But the most part fled eastward as they could; and some cast their weapons down and sued for mercy.

>Finally, there were more armies of Men amassed behind the Black Gate, ready to continue the assault on the West.

>Yet armies he had. As far as their eyes could reach, along the skirts of the Morgai and away southward, there were camps. ... '...These are Men not Orcs, or my eyes are all wrong.' Neither he nor Frodo knew anything of the great slave-worked fields away south in this wide realm, beyond the fumes of the Mountain by the dark sad waters of Lake Núrnen; nor of the great roads that ran away east and south to tributary lands, from which the soldiers of the Tower brought long waggon-trains of goods and booty and fresh slaves.

I have. Orcs are not smart individuals at all.

They're not 'hurr me dumb" stupid either. They're crafty and astute. They're an intelligent species.

They're just too consumed by self-hatred to make good life choices.

>It's not that they're stupid, it's that they hate themselves and everything around them too much to be capable of creating/growing stuff.
sounds a bit like Sup Forums

Friendly fuck you and your heroin addict hate.

>"Cyanide capsules were one of the most common ways that people killed themselves in the last days of the war. On 12 April 1945, members of the Hitler Youth distributed cyanide pills to audience members during the last concert of the Berlin Philharmonic"

Christ that's decadent...there is no way the alt-right or whatever reaches this level of aesthetics

As a conservative-leaning person my goal is for white people to be able to live free and prosper without anti-white racism forced down their throats all the time, not mass suicide.

There were zero parallels. Tolkien categorically hated allegory and began writing Lord of the Rings long before World War II.

Stalin also highly overestimated the allies. He was waiting for some kind war to break out between USA and GB (still thinking that GB was a major power).

so they're muslims not nogs then?

Fyi there's a live recording of BPO giving a concert in Berlin where you can hear the muffled sound of the bombing going on outside.
Super great.

Lol you think there is any hope.

>mfw sovietboos actually exist
>mfw I'm not even gonna waste time uploading a reaction image

Pretty much.

There's always hope.

>nothing would have stopped them
they had no food, no factories making goods (since americans and brits sent them everything via lend lease), and against a force with nuclear weaponry and a much much much better airforce and more well supplied army. the soviets would've been curbstomped