Alison was right

Alison was right.

Although she currently fails to reconcile her internalization of moral obligations with the action of compelling Max's assistance, that does not render her actions and intended results any less ideal.

preston or whatever his name is can eat my dick

i mean max
w/e
he can eat my dick

>that does not render her actions and intended results any less ideal.

She gave her telepathic, supervillain not-boyfriend a massive power boost. He's probably a full blown mind controller now which is problematic seeing as he's an aggressive business exec with no sense of ethics or scruples. Her friend who is a serial killer also got a massive power boost.

It's clarified that Max's ability was used world or even country wide. If it was that long-reaching, why even transport him at all?

But yeah, fuck mind-reader guy serial-killer chick.

DAMMIT WOMAN! SHAVE THOSE LEGS!

*isn't

Why are her legs hairy enough to merit little skitch marks but not a single man has had arm hair, chest hair, stubble, etc. pronounced enough to merit them this whole comic?


What a mysterious sequence of events, I say.

Narrative shorthand.

Max should have try to overcharge into a bloated mass of of cancer.

Yeah, I get the point. She did a bad thing to one guy to do a good thing for millions, and it was so EASY, and now there's gonna be this whole slippery-slope thing, how far is too far, yadda yadda. But there's a gigantic hole in this set-up that just shatters my suspension of disbelief.

If Feral's capable of regenerating entire organs in minutes, how the fuck is any surgical team going to keep her open long enough to get them out? You want a heart? Good luck, when the breastbone is constantly closing itself up every 15 seconds or so. Hell, good luck getting past the first incision!

This power boost shouldn't have helped anybody, hell, it should've screwed Feral's infinite-organ-donor schtick completely over. And yet it has and does, purely for the sake of Allison's character arc.

The world is revolving around making a set series of events happen to a character to give that character a reason to feel a certain way, when the world should be responding to the character's actions logically and delivering believable consequences, and THEN that character responds to build their development.

Instead, the writer's built an arc, planned everything around that arc, fucked up the delivery, and the comic as a whole has suffered.

For an example of a slippery-slope descent into villainy done better, see pic related.

Wasn't there another thing where someone with super-healing essentially became a permanent organ donor? Pretty sure it didn't end well for them.

That's them right there in the OP.

>wasn't there ANOTHER thing

I think you missed a key word in that question.

I don't even get the organ donor thing. You have a being capable of puling absurd quantities of mass from bloody nowhere. You would think it would be more worthwhile to figure out how the hell and a half she's doing that.

"Well, we could like, get organs and shit from this chick...or figure out the root of her powers and revolutionize nearly everything ever."

The implications of a power like that are staggering. It completely ignores conservation of energy and makes entropy cry bitch tears. Even if the only thing that could be done was to replicate the generation of living tissue, that's still absurdly useful. The entire meat industry could be overhauled, and that is literally thinking as small as possible.

There are beings capable of straight up ignoring fundamental laws of the universe. Why would conventional surgery be the first course of action instead of attempting to understand how the fuck her abilities, and the abilities of others, function?

I mean, the same could be said of literally any other character with a healing factor; or any superpower at all, for that matter.

This is why Cape comics usually don't deal with their characters' powers revolutionizing the world - because it just breaks too much shit such that it doesn't resemble the reader's world anymore.

I admire the fact that the comic is at least trying to attempt that, even if it does it in a half-assed and not-fully-thought-out way that leaves a bunch of plot holes.

Unless the power boost turns out to be temporary. And when Alison returns to Max, he's done the only thing he can do to take back control of his life and killed himself.

Which leaves Feral having to go back into constant surgery, and any good that might have come from Max's ability lost.

>And when Alison returns to Max, he's done the only thing he can do to take back control of his life and killed himself.

or hire super villains to protect him in exchange for more power.

what is this comic?
tried reverse image search and got nothing

Are you joking? "Figure out the root of her powers"? Have you ever read any kind of superhero fiction in your entire life? Powers just work. If there is any kind of mechanism to them it's usually just "genes" or "magic". The only way anyone is going to replicate a superpower is if they have a superpower which allows them to do that.

Strong Female Protagonist. And no, the title really isn't used in irony.

Strong Female Protagonist.

Filthy cave dwelling legbeards.

It is a double entendre though.

When the end results are so perfect and the costs are so understated, it is almost like someone is trying to hide the ugly parts.

who keeps making these threads

I stopped reading this at the part where she went to that intersectional conference. I was able to tolerate the progressive politics up until then because the comic is intelligently written, but that shit was just silly.

Should I pick it up again? Or is it still riduculous

>Patrick's telepathy becomes so powerful he is rendered unable to function in society as he can no longer distinguish between something said something thought
>Moonshadow can now make herself completely undetectable by any means, leaving her free to murder as she fits
>Cleaver is now a giant, immobile mass of tumors unable to die
>Paladin's intelligence has increased to the point where she is unable to interact with other humans and spends her days creating bizarre, Roadside Picnic-esque devices
>Feral is crippled by continuous autoimmune disorders as her immune system goes haywire

>the most narratively satisfying thing to happen would be if this slowly backfired and turned into a fucking horror comic about the hubris of this superhero girl basically making everything shittier because she didn't leave well enough alone, classic Greek myth shit
>instead none of the interesting or even logical things will happen because this is a comic that pretends to be a deconstruction and an exploration when really it just has a pre determined stance on the morality if the world and everything will warp itself, even in unsatisfying and annoyingly contrived and convenient ways, to fit that stance
>doesn't even have any noteworthy artistry ir spectacle to make up for it

What a masturbatory waste of everyone's time

The moment the comic mentioned that due to demographics the majority of supers were born in severe poverty or in the third world and never brought it up again is the moment I realized the comic was a giant waste of time. It inadvertently highlighted how the series is basically "upper middle class white girl problems" with superpowers. Alison can't ponder the uselessness of superheroes to change the world if a Boko Haram biodynamic massacres a military base or Brazilian biodynamics burn down Sao Paulo as collateral damage in a superpowered gang war.

This comic pisses me off more than Sinfest and Walkyverse combined, because SFP is so fucking close to being good. It's so close to beautiful deconstruction but falls short every fucking time and I hate it so much.

They've tried. However they just can't crack it. Sort of like how in real life the best treatments for cancer we've come up with is nuking it.

Also the whole point of this particular person is that she is short sighted and wants to help in a big way in the fastest way possible. Being an organ bank is pretty damn direct vs. being poked and prodded for a potential future discovery.

Alison is this universe's supermen/wonder woman. The strongest and most invulnerable person. Super villain protection wouldn't save max.

this has to be the dumbest thing ive ever read

I'm not part of the anti-SJW/feminism crowd, but even I get downright annoyed by this comic at times.

I think your reasoning is mine, too, ultimately.

They won't keep her under to harvest new organs, but how about this- what if they kept her under, took out her organs and then just dropped them into a turbine that could generate electricity

You have an infinite form of mass that can create 10 hearts in a minute (300g average heart weight * 10 3kg). That's 3kg in gravitational energy every minute with the heart alone.

Any engineers want to try estimate how much energy you could generate that way?

Strictly speaking there is nothing stopping people from poking and prodding her while she's being an organ bank.

Other things far more interesting in the comic include the fact that biodynamic children are legally adults for the purpose of contracts which would mean that you could have a strong legal argument that statutory and age of consent laws don't apply to them. Patrick has functionally enslaved another biodynamic. And world governments have a conspiracy to cover up Feral's organ donations that would include gross lapses in medical ethics.

The idea that most superpowers aren't really beneficial to crime fighting and that any supervillain who isn't bulletproof is going to get shot by cops in short order was a great starting place, it just fizzled out.

Honestly, his best course of action would be either:

a) Get Super HERO protection, explaining exactly what his predicament is, just leaving the identity of his oppressor undefined, while being completely up-front about what she's doing to him. Then have Alison have to deal with that when she shows up next time, even if she can obviously beat them/try to explain herself, and have word get out to the hero community/dead heroes to explain away.

b) Getting his congresswoman mother to extend him a Secret Service protection detail. As above, but have Alison have to beat up government agents, instead.

They won't beat her, but there would be consequences.

All he really needs to say is that after finding out he had the ability to boost superhuman powers, Alison assaulted him and threatened to kill him unless he boosted her powers.

It makes sense in that one company's universe where giant ancient spacemen exist, at least.

I mean, those folks are the only sentinent creatures that evolved naturally, so they work in line with unlimited energy and lossless mass-to-energy-conversion the universe has going on. Everybody else are species they seeded and consciously stunted so that half of the universes' natural laws don't even apply to them.

Doesn't even need to lie. "Unless he used his power for her".

Ok, wild idea here, but what if we shipped Lizard Girl to Africa/India and solved world hunger?

World hunger is more of an issue about logistics than the actual amount of food available.

It would basically be the same problem as getting all the organs delivered, except with the additional caveats of humane food preservation, making sure the delivery isn't co-opted by local warlords, nutrition (because lizard girl jerky doesn't have a lot of vitamins), and a whole lot of other shit that I don't remember because I haven't taken World Hunger 101 in years

The answer is that Alison will solve all those problems. Food preservation? Just hurl the cases of Feral jerky across the world. Co-opted by warlords? Rip and tear. Nutrition? She just tortures Max until he boosts her powers enough that she can beat up vitamin deficiencies.

where are people getting this from? why do you think Max boosted everyone's powers, not just the person whose bed he had to go stand next to?

I dunno, it isn't implied at all.
Maybe people can't accept that an act is wrong even if it has positive consequences simply because the means were wrong and they want their to be bad consequences too?

I get the logistics part, but we could make a little mobile meat packing/preserving van, right?

Let's say she has 4 limbs and weighs ~160 lbs from being so full of muscle and waifu material. Google says that an arm is about 5.3% of bodyweight, a leg, 17.5%. Her arms weight 8.48 lbs each, and each leg 28.48 lbs. If her heart weighs takes 8 seconds to rejuvenate, let's say each limb takes 20 seconds. 86,400 (seconds in a day) / 20 (seconds for a new arm) *4 (number of limbs) = 17280 (limbs donated) * 2(8.48+28.48)=

1,277,337.6 lbs of food she produces a day, just from limbs.

At that rate, she might just solve the energy crisis if we use her as firewood to heat up steam.

But we have over a millions pounds of food to work with (I'm including bone for the marrow). It's very simple to make some device to distribute food across the continents.


>Pic related: Operation End World Hunger (Pat. Pending
>1. Van for driving
>2(a-d) Blades (saw or otherwise) to cut limbs individually
>3. Lizard girl
>4. I forgot 4
>5. Optional dicking hole. If we really want to be efficient, we'll have multiple drivers take shifts. Think of this as entertainment, or a sold service to guro enthusiasts to help offset the cost of Operation: EWH.
>6. Support standing bar on outside of van for 5.
>7. Harness to hold 3. down
>8(a-d) Holes and chutes to distribute limbs among the roadside as you drive through the villages and cities. Want food? Literally pick it up off the ground, the van to end hunger stops for no one.

We don't even need to preserve it, we're working with so much food. There will be food to spare.

Did I just make a venture into Guro/charity porn?

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Well as far as I know a heart (and blood) would be pretty useless as a working fluid and solids aren't really used in turbInes. So none.

user you have probably put more work into that picture than the author has into the entire plot of this comic.

See above and The author is working with/laying down the ground work for a very interesting world. But its pretty damn clear that she is too narrow minded/incapable of capitalizing on it. I don't want to say she is trying to get SJW points as the entire special powers arc read like a mocking comedy skit. Rather she just seems to focus on Alison at the cost of the far, far, far more interesting world.

It's a funnier and more interesting scenario.

Well, any self respecting Utilitarian would have to agree to that plan, right?
The net value isn't negative, so let's do this thing.

You idiots are so arbitrary. It doesn't merit an explanation, it just is.

user, you need to stop. You're advocating for like 60% of humanity to go cannibal.

Carbon costs for the van and potentially from cooking fires would need to be offset. Perhaps grab a fire/heat generating super to travel with Operation: EWH to flash cook the limbs before they're distributed.

Given her regenerative capacity you could extract a theoretically infinite amount of blood from her.

It could just be as easy as holding her open with like chunks of metal tha she can't heal around,

>Roadside Picnic
Get out of here, mah stalker!

Except Allison can prove that he only boosted Feral, and talk about what Feral has done.

You really think the public would be on Max's side with "My plan was to let someone suffer forever and thousands of people die due to organ failure because I was afraid my life MIGHT be in danger, and also objectivism." They won't be, and Max fucking knows it.

Except now she's back to force him to do someone else without his consent.

Besides, Feral doesn't exactly have a reputation as a sane or well-minded person with her whole martyrdom bit. Forcing him to help her be even MORE of an insane martyr isn't exactly the same as 'not letting someone suffer'. She could've stopped at any time.

Plus, he can mention the death threats and the physical torture, and she wouldn't be able to deny it, because she's too much of a psychopath to be able to lie convincingly.

>Cellulite and unshaven legs

I will never understand the need to draw this.

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Haso Max even tested his powerst before ? How does Allison know Feral and the people she donates too won't turn into giant masses of cancer?

She knows it is safe because some random doctor who has no way of testing Max's power or knowing of his existence says so.
Feral is also an universal donor and the donated organs are better accepted than close genetic matches normally would be, because the comic says so.
Also, one single person is able to cover the entire world's need for donor organs, while still not regenerating quick enough to make surgery on her impossible, because the comic says so.
Stop thinking, the comic says it's all perfect.

of course she´s right, she a mary sue

>getting upset that a girl named Feral is hairy

To be fair with the surgery bit, that's usually how regenerators work in most mediums. If shit is still attached but hanging off by a thread (like a pried open rib cage or an arm hanging by a thread) the body doesn't usually regenerate a new set since that would leave a "duplicate"

Because really, those of you saying she'd regenerate back through surgery are basically saying she'd end up with two rib cages. One that grows over her organs and the old set that is pried open but still attached

He had to have used it previously in order for them to figure out what his power actually was.

Of course, that was a long time ago, and he's made a point of not using it since. But given the gradual changes everyone else has been experiencing with their powers, I wouldn't rule out it all going horribly wrong still.

Could easily be that accelerating her regeneration also reduces her lifespan.

Huh, how dead is the guy whose powers Max first boosted?

Technically she's being less of an insane martyr since she's spending less total time being harvested even if her output increases.

Also, Feral seems bizarrely resistant to suffering from ceaseless torture for at least several months.Does her healing somehow extend to mental damage as well as physical? Because if that's the case then that makes the ethics of it more complicated if Feral can't suffer permanent mental trauma.

>while still not regenerating quick enough to make surgery on her impossible
So the regeneration doesn't start immediately. She repairs damage abnormally fast, but the processes that initially react to it are still normal.

>be superhero
>small powers, basically early superman.
>really strong, but it's all muscle growth
>can't fly, just jump really high
>guy contacts me, claims he can boost my powers
>does some ghost voodoo glowy things
>suddenly feel more powerful
>open door
>don't even feel it, just rip it off hinges accidentally
>worldofcardboard.mp3
>try to jump back home
>jump into orbit
>haven't come down yet.

Good people doing good things for good reasons don't get PTSD from trauma related to those good things.

Good social workers don't get burnt out, good doctors eternally harvesting Feral while she's conscious don't get PTSD, good soldiers defending foreign civilians don't get PTSD when said civilians get blown up by suicide bombers in front of them, good super heroes don't get PTSD from being carved up like a fucking turkey with no anasthetic for months on end.

Only rape victims get PTSD.

But only the, you know, pussy rape victims, not the tough ones.

And definitely NOT male victims of violence and threats of death inflicted by unstoppable super-powered women. Because it was for a good cause!

Man, this fucking comic.

It makes me post like I'm from Sup Forums, even when I halfway see the upside of that whole 'I should just kill everyone from Sup Forums' fantasy line of thought of the very character I post angrily about half the time in these threads.

The organ donation is secret, remember?

Plus Max's moral argument is the same if Feral was forced into the organ donation scheme.

Depends on their power. Not everything is going to be detrimental when you crank it up to overdrive, like the big blade guy.

I'm saying that Max (or, more specifically, his mom) had whoever he boosted assassinated to protect Max's secret.

Didn't she already threaten to kill a whole group of people on live TV, with no consequences?

They know there's nothing they can do to stop her, so they just keep her placated.

I'm pretty sure it's not, only Feral's location and the people she specifically donates to is a secret.

Remember there were huge protests where her location was leaked, a man with a flamethrower killed a bunch of doctors, so Allison murdered him and then threatened the crowd?

Still doesn't make sense that only her organ regeneration got the boost, and not the rest of her tissue. But then again, this entire story line is designed to console the reader. Alison makes a 'hard choice' and picks the 'greater good' over one rich man's personal autonomy.

I've been saying forever that it should really fuck up the doctors who are doing that to Feral, even if it's fully consensual on her part. Especially if it's consensual, because, even if somehow Feral is perfectly sane, it'll probably still feel to the surgeons that they're taking advantage of a mentally ill person because what Feral is doing is hard to rationalize.

Eh, they just need to keep her flesh held open. Also it's not really consoling the reader, it's meant to be complicated. Like would the universe bending over backwards to make things go badly be better writing? I say it would be even worse.

The storyline isn't over yet.

>Like would the universe bending over backwards to make things go badly be better writing?

Depends on how they go about it. Alison's plan actually making it more difficult for them to continue harvesting Feral is a perfectly fine alternative outcome.

Nobody thinks about ways to harm her other than brute forcing it.

She's been in constant surgery for months. There'd be no reason for them to shave her legs for her. But I hope she keeps them natural anyway. That shit's hot.

>she
the writer is a dude

She has super-healing, but she's not super-strong or super-tough. There's no indication that simply holding her ribcage open with clamps or whatever wouldn't work.

This whole chapter has been teasing that Alison is going to go down the road of a "I can make everyone happy if they just do exactly what I say" style tyrant.

That wouldn't be the case if her actions showed immediate blowback to the extent that she can easily say "oh, well I guess I shouldn't do that then".

it's not like there's going to be unforeseen consequences here, it's not that kind of comic

or if there are unforeseen consequences like Feral turning into an immobile mass of cancer cells unable to die, Alison will blame power-boost guy and be portrayed as right to do so

You're an idiot if you think that. The comic spends half its run talking about how Allison is really sort of an idiotic tyrant who just wants everything and everyone to be perfect without any real perspective on people or the world.

I don't think even "one heart a minute" tier regeneration is enough food to solve world hunger. You couldn't feed a single country's homeless with that.

and yet she has yet to face any consequences or even anyone who isn't portrayed as wrong telling her she's being an asshole. The comic's been running for 4 years now and she's still in the same place as she was at the beginning.

What cellulite?

>Also, Feral seems bizarrely resistant to suffering from ceaseless torture for at least several months.

I thought that too. Of course, she just woke up. She's probably still high off of the initial release right now. You'd probably have to let her get back down to "normal" before you see the long-term effects.

I thought the immediate blowback was that she headslammed a dude into a table and resorted to death threats and torture.
Those are the ugly parts I'm sure she wants no one else in the world to know.

>The organ donation is secret, remember?

Not THAT secret. I can't remember if the receivers know whose organs they're getting, but when Feral started surgery, protestors lined up in front of the facility screaming about freak organs being implanted in unknowing human beings.

Where's the payoff then? It's been 4 years, and Allison is still missus "always right" and madam "beating up the evil patriarchy".

I can't wait until she's enforcing privilege checking patrols across the city, and she's portrayed as a hero for it.

i could buy that if there was any meaningful negative consequences from Alison's actions. all that's happened is characters who we're supposed to hate keep calling her out and that's it

>Like would the universe bending over backwards to make things go badly be better writing?

Except it wouldn't be bending over backwards. Like others pointed out, if she's regenerating so fast she puts Deadpool on his best to shame, how are they keeping her open?

Also, it would make sense withn the story tone. That's one of the main points isn't it? You can force people to do shit, you can't punch your way into solution, and that's what she did by threatening the guy.

Yes, but while she clearly feels guilty about it, it's not enough to stop her from doing it again.

Some of Sup Forums thinks the author is trying to say Alison was 100% in the right because Feral isn't immediately going full Akira.

This part of the comic has been extremely drawn out, but that also is a recurring flaw of the character. She has absolutely no perspective of the world or other people precisely because she faces no consequences for her actions, and everybody but her knows she never will. Even lots of her close associates don't really involve her in things, because they know she doesn't understand complicated situations or imperfect people. When there's somebody she doesn't like, even if they dislike her for completely legitimate reasons (which the comic sometimes waffles on but not always) they are immediately removed from her life. If she commits criminal behavior or causes outright destruction, she isn't arrested because the world straight up does not know how. If she is seen to be wrong on an issue, she just leaves whoever dissed her and bitches to somebody who will call her right even if she isn't. She's completely sheltered and ignorant, and will remain that way as long as she's willing to stay that way because, as the invincible Superman, she has absolutely no way to have consequences or fallback inflicted upon her by someone else.

Nah, the tone of the comic is unintended consequences usually, but the theme of this arc is clearly questioning whether doing the right thing means doing good or sticking by your ideals. Allison betrayed her ideals and acted as a violent tyrant, but that got her exactly what she wanted. That's a more interesting dilemma than if it had all screwed up and turned Feral into some sort of cancer-monster. She can't call what she did a clear mistake because it worked, but she also can't be proud of it or happy with it because she knows she was a straight up supervillain there. It calls back to Mr. Psychic and his amoral heroics agenda.