How comes Russia doesn't hate Germany the way Poland does?

How comes Russia doesn't hate Germany the way Poland does?

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Russian got their revenge. Poles didn't. Yet, anyway.

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That makes sense.

you imply they would be on killing spree if they had the chance?

But Poland likes Germans

Poles envy germans.

are you sure?

This.
I don't see why they would anymore. Unless they're PiS supporters.

Russia is a big country with tigers. We're too big and far away to hate anyone of you really.

yes, normal mid-class Pole doesn't hate Germans, French and other people, because hating people because someone's grandfather did something bad is not appropriate. Don't you have in Germany bydlo that hate foreign people? I think that you have, because this kind of people is in every society.

we only have people who hate muslims
even our nazis dont hate other europeans anymore

Poles obtain butthurt to Germans from the moment of birth. Al these cool stories that begin with "My grandma told me that Germans are the worst" makes us one of the most brainwashed nation. In the same time hating of Germany is not a reason not to go to Germany for working there even for those, who cry "Nemiec Kaput" on the streets on the 11 of November

cause you have cute women.
>sign on photo: we go to Berlin for germans women

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Hmm. Is it also true for the younger generation?

I wonder why they hate USSR more than Nazi Germany.

Then why won't your government restrict the flow of refugees to your country? Is it profitable to allocate benefits and housing for these useless people?

Not all, but enough

USSR was no better than Nazi Germany

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It's much decreased since a dozen of years because most of these old people with deformed by war brains are dying because of oldness.

Beginning of cool stories depends on region of a grandma's origin, though. People from the East would rather say that Ukrainians were worse than Germans, or Russians were worse.

German elites have a nazi guilt complex and want to make up for it by saving the world
A leading German politician recently told in an interview that Auschwitz was the reason for him to go into politics

What about the anti-German narrative of PiS? Does it have a big influence on the people?

dont ever insult me dirty polakk

Germans are too cute :333

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On the one hand, I'd say nazi Germany was better than the USSR pre-war, but on the other, the nazis were stopped before they could complete their plans. If they hadn't, I'm sure they would have surpassed Stalin.

are you sure?

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I think what user meant was
>even our nazis dont hate other europeans anymore based on ethnicity

I apologize.

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>even our nazis dont hate other europeans anymore
>anymore
>implying they ever did

typical cucked Neogerman education

Poland is eternally butthurt at everything

Yes. Germans are big Grecoboos

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Most Poles don't hate Germans. My grandma often told me stories that Germans were way more civilised than Soviets. And her mother (my great-grandmother) was sent to Germany as free labour, so Russians must have been really fucked up. I never believed her that much, but professors at my Uni said similar things.

That's pretty stupid, because history can't be rewritten. In the end, if you simply tighten the rules for the entry of refugees, it is unlikely that this will be as cruel as Auschwitz.

Both of them commited many crimes and the nazis and the soviets wanted to genocide us by either murdering us or making us "homo sovieticus".

>anti-German narrative
do you know what does a populist policy mean?

Kaczyński in reality does not hate Germans, the same with other politics. But you should that many of PiS voters are people of >50 years old. Most of them are babushkas that lived during the war and they remember uncle Hans with machine gun, another of theym were people borned in communist Poland where was anti-nazi narrative without talking about Russian damages. And this long-term process made in some of them ANTI-NAZI INSTINCT

Why? They were going to eliminate slavs.

not so sure

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meh romanticism is an idealisation of things long gone

I just think it is really dangerous that PiS is willing to jeopardize German-Polish relations, just to become more popular.

Poles hate everyone tbqh

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just because some media outlets make offensive clickbait headlines doesn't mean everyone hates you...
Or what would you say about pic related then?

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That's what I mean. Germans have a unrealistically positive image of Greeks

>Why? They were going to eliminate slavs.
And communists wanted to elimitate Poles. Don't take it offense but I know you are thaught only good things about the Red Army. In reality it looked a bit different when the RA troops set a foot on our soil.

To be honest, I don't have an answer what really stays behind. Maybe it is simple populism, but if it is so, it means that a big portion of polish society supports it. I remember shitstorm with reparations, and some of my friends who never supported PiS started re-posting videos and posts supporting that initiative.

>to elimitate Poles
How? Any documents are available confirming such plans. Commies made Poland a satellite of the USSR like they did with a half of Europe.

Soviet Union won WW2. If they wanted to eliminate Poles, they would have done it

>just to become more popular
Do you know that they cannot into real reignment during years because PO( Donald Tusk's party) scandals?? Partionally it is also because of immigrant crisis. That's why PiS won the election, because to freaked babushkas joined undecided people (voters that were resentful on PO party and scared of muslim immigrants).

Why do you care enough to make the same thread three times today tho?

& epic memeballs.

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You do realize that the meme pokes fun at the theoretical Chad?
Well, with soviets at least you got a chance to live and fight another day, with nazis we would almost all be dead, with an exception of a few slaves.

>they cannot into real reignment during years
they are able now into real reignment because of*

While I don't know anything about Polish politics, I could imagine German administartion has a share in the blame, by supporting Polish political who would be most benefitial for German investors, and overlooking their corruption. So I don't mind PiS being critical of Germany, but digging up the nazi past is a low blow

>communists wanted to elimitate Poles
That sounds stupid. We were enemies in 1920-30s and 40s Kraiova army but after regime change Soviets were ok with Poles.

I just think such political power games are really dangerous. For years, British politicians used anti-EU sentiments to stay popular, which eventually lead to Brexit

I don't know why EU authorities elected Donald Tusk, he is on of the most hated persons in our country. Don't they know that by supporting Donald they support PiS in their freak policy?

Communism wouldn't succeeded if the Germans didn't allow for it by releasing Lenin from prison on route to Russia in the first place.

>were ok with Poles
Soviet were ok only after Stalin's death. When Stalin lived, there were a terrifying stalinism era in Polish People Republic

I don't know either, but I would guess it was a reward for playing ball with Germany

>he is on of the most hated persons in our country
Really? Why?

Maybe. But even with Lenin bolsheviks were popular only in Moscow and Petrograd, the rest of the former Russian Empire supported other parties. They why commies made a coup and started civil war

Mocsow and Petersburg were only cities with a industrial base and thus workers. Rest of Russia was ruled by feudal lords who were obiviously monarchists.

you mean ancient greeks
a perfectly normal reaction

your media and other major yuro media have far greater coverage and global reach.
the only thing the world heard about us is how corrupt, lazy, stupid, incompetent, and all kinds of kind words, we are. some was deserved some was undeserved
it is perfectly normal tbqh, you have to block your investment from foreign capital i guess
the damage you and other yuro, on e""""u"""" payroll, journalists have done is irreparable though

many scandals,
rising pension age without consulting with society (you know, he could even make a referendum), stealing citizen's cash from OFE (third pension pillar where some of Poles were saving their money for living after the retirement) because his government wanted to replenish a public debt, many scandals of his government ministers (they even wanted to sell LOT, yes our airplanes company, to foreign businessmen), destroying Polish shipbuilding industry, selling most of Polish state companies to Jan Kulczyk (Polish wealthiest man, but dead right now) and this Jan was selling this cheap-bought companies for foreign investors.

Germans think ancient and current Greeks are the same people

Not exactly. Monarchists were not really popular after proclaiming of the Russian Republic. There were a number of other republican parties including some socialistic ones that were more popular

Be a man. Look at me - I'm not crying.

how do you know? Russian republic existed for only 6 weeks

I see. Though the rising retirement age happened here too. Wasn't he PM during the 2008 recession? That might be why.

nope

From history
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Constituent_Assembly_election,_1917

wuut?? fuck off mongoloid scum, thankfully recent Poland is glorifying oppositionist of Polish People Republic right now, LONG LIVE FREE POLAND

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Warum seid ihr Alamans so?

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hmmm interesting. i need to watch a documentary on russian revolution

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Constituent_Assembly

Yet Poland was only annexed when a German took the Russian throne, with help of other Germans, with real Russians being reduced to peasantry.

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Poles hate all neighborhood countries. Even small harmless Lithuania

BTW another user here but i'm interesting in history. Did you know that Poles and Pilsudski partly helped to Bolshevik Revolution? Because Pilsudski had a chance to intervene into this war and support Whites, but Whites were representing Monarch ideology where Poland is under tsarist reignment. Pilsudski ignorised intervening into the war and Bolsheviks had a fully chance to won.

No, Germans are our cultural latin bros and with them we are free in European family.

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>Germans are our cultural latin bros
This
Hitler in Mein Kampf wrote about it
lol

No I didn't know that. Though I don't think it would have been necessarily better for Poland if the whites had won

>woulda coulda shoulda
Can't do anything abut it now. Don't forget, they didn't have the benefit of hindsight.

On the bright side, at least he stopped the communist flame from spreading further West.
Which, then again, didn't really amtter in the long run, since Germany became fascist instead...

We could help for Kolchak's army from the West but as you have written - won of the Whites (tsarists) may wouldn't be beneficial for us.

Lithuania, do you know that Pilsudski is also your boy? I don't know why Lithuanians don't accept that we have our mutual history and they are looking for heroes from pogan times.

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Yeah that's why they tried to wipe out the Polish language and prevented Russians from writing their own history (literally by force, forbidden from) so that Bayer & Müller, who did not speak a word of Russian, could write their "creative" interpretation instead? The Germans literally pitted Poland and Russia against eachother and tried to ethnically cleanse us (I'm a Polack) and you're the cuck faggot saying "yes master, please let me swallow". They're equal to the Jews, kys polaczku, the Germans will never be our brothers, and "Latin" is a slur, for before the Holy *Roman* Empire and The usurped Russian rule, dubed second *Rome* enroached on our lands we were the only place in Europe not to be conquered by the Roman empire.

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t. prorussian panslavist


We had peace with Holy Roman Empire for hundreds of years (except aggresive Prussia), with Russian we always had plenty of wars

Yeah, we know. And we accept and are proud of our mutual history. The whole Vilnius thing really soured our relations, but the only ones still pissed about it are (old) ultra-nationalist farts.

>why Lithuanians are looking for heroes from pogan times
That's like asking why Poland looks for heroes from Piast times. because it's also part of our history and we're proud of it.

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I think whoever would have been in charge in Russia would try to turn Poland into a sattelite state, to get a buffer against Germany

yes, absolutely this

t. idiot who claims to like history but knows nothing

I'm not prorussian (for now) because they're favorable of their shitty German controlled past because its easier than accepting they were fooled.

>except aggressive Prussia
The Germans literally pissed them off and wiped off their language with the Churches funding that was the Livionian Order of the Sword you dumb ignorant nigger. Also
>what is Polish Teutonic wars of 1411 and 1519

>I'm not prorussian (for now)
russianbot detected

Also
>1431

what do you care? You are a Brit now

That's what he meant by "Prussia" you retard. Old russians weren't Germans, you double-nigger.

Why German and Russia can't be friends?

They can't?

t. lord of the brainlets
Also, who started the whole "Polish death camps" fiasco? The Russians? Because as far as I'm aware, Khadyrov supported us.
What the fuck are you on about you silly baltoid spastic. Prussia existed as a tribe before germanization too.

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As I can see in periods between wars with each other they were always at least partners, sometimes allies. Even nowdays it's hard to say that Germany is an enemy, more like a partner with concerns

in politics there are no friendships, only businesses

idk

At the end of the day, Poland should be friends with all her neighbors. That of course includes both Germany and Russia. Realpolitik is what matters now, not some historical resentment.

Prussia was a region, Old Prussians were Balts. Polish user is saying how the HRE wasn't much of a threat to Poland and suddenly you bring up raids by forest pagans as an example of German aggression.

he lives in Britain, what does he care for realpolitics or living conditions in Poland
All that matters to him is national pride