Why is it thought that Finland and Greece are not Eastern Europe?
Why is it thought that Finland and Greece are not Eastern Europe?
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Greece is the cradle of Western civilization you dumb jap bitch
Poland is in Central Europe, not Eastern REEE-EE
Cause they're white
So?
Positionally it is Eastern Europe
If the map is reasonable, they have to be in Eastern Europe or Bulgaria and Macedonia have to be in Southern Europe
Greece is mentally and de facto balkan trash
Because Finland is northern you loser
There's the eastern europe and then there's the eastern europe. We belong in one of those.
fins culturally are closer to Scandinavians rather than slavs. don't forget they're protestant, not orthodox.
Christianity pretty much isn't a thing anymore here, I think 1 in 3 don't believe in anything
Didn't go gommie in 1945, therefore they are Western European
Culture and the cold war where the division seen in the pic separates communists from capitalists.
Because the most frequent definition of Eastern Europe is based on grouping countries that were either part of the USSR or its sphere of influence, which included neither Finland nor Greece.
politics
Greece and Italy are in Southern Europe.
Finland is Northern Europe with Scandinavians.
Finland is way more developed and effective than Russia and richer than Baltic states. The contrast is evident once you cross the border.
Greece is not cool, but still superior to nearly all of Eastern Europe, maybe with an exception of Chezh republic and Poland in some comparable regards.
No, it's more like: Western civilization came from Southern and Eastern Europe, which in turn had it from Middle East.
I know it's hard for Westerners to admit that they weren't always relevant, but still.
It's stupid to put Croatia in Eastern Europe. In Dalmatia the culture corresponds to South European cultures, and Italian is by far the most popular tertiary language choice. The North and particularly Zagreb are culturally and architecturally Central European, with German being the most popular tertiary language choice.
Likewise, Slovenia should be part of the Central European circle, since German influence is particularly strong there, and it used to be a land of the HRE.
Why are poor people always so jealous of Greece?
Greece is the best country in Europe
croat dog wants to be german
Does Germany have a very equal wealth distribution because its gdp per capita is a lot higher than other european countries.
germany is like a big company
it is wealthy
but the wagecucks are not
>wanting to be g*rmanoid
That's precisely the reason I loathe z*greboids. I am a proud MED warrior.
this, poland is actually woke
so you are a GREEK
Because "eastern Europe" is pejorative and derogatery term for poor people and countries that were or considered communist
Which just represent how arrogant western culture is. They use regional terms depending on politics.
NO, TRVE ROMANVS
More like Vlachs. Karavlachs or Morlachs to be precise. Let's not fool ourselves, from northern Greece and Epirus trough all exYU there were mainly Vlachs. They are basically chameleons of Balkan nobody talks about, but are everpresent in every nation on Balkan.
No it's not
Central Europe is a meme for slavshits who would like to believe that they are part of European civilization instead of colonies and vassals
Greeks are the best Romans
I don't kow about you weird slavs, but Greeks are mosty pure descendants of Greeks.
We wuz capitalist and shit
Term "Greek" is like a "American". It just mean regional affiliation. Maybe you mean Hellenes, but that also does not qualify national affiliation, just status.
I don't have nothing against Greeks. But there you have various states that were unified into Greece. On north there numbers of Vlachs, Kucovlachs, Karakachans, etc. In Epirus also. Just look at Moscopolle.
For Croatia, Vlachs mostly settled in vojna krajina, along with migrating Serbs.
>Term "Greek" is like a "American". It just mean regional affiliation.
this is wrong though
Greece is not like a south slavic country
their identity is real
Oh great, now you've done it.
done what?
There are Vlachs of Dalmatia, and also trough all Bosnia.
They formed Greek identity troughout history, they were not born Greek, nor Greece existed as one country from the beginning. Slavs had many other countries before they started gathering around the idea of one nation too.
>There are Vlachs of Dalmatia, and also trough all Bosnia.
Looks like you're right.
Also, you know that most similar to vulgar latin is Aromanian language. Aromanians are based SPQR
You need to learn more about the idea of Greece as one nation. They were not all speaking Greek. Also, which Greek language or dialect? Dorian, Ionian etc?
You can see gradient of settlements with various toponyms depending on people living in the region.
We dont praise them enough for what they did and brought to every country they lived in.
t. Turk
>You need to learn more about the idea of Greece as one nation.
>let me tell Greeks about the the Greek nation
>They were not all speaking Greek.
Greeks in Greece were not speaking Greek at all
>Also, which Greek language or dialect? Dorian, Ionian etc
you are some millennia in the past
>You can see gradient of settlements with various toponyms depending on people living in the region.
where can i see that?
A map?
Also you just basically said what I said, they were not speaking same language and idea of one nation, in this case Greek is really not that old.
Also, I was replying to Bulgar, not Greek, I didn't address to Greeks. So I'm not "teaching" or telling Greeks anything. Just stating the obvious. Is this so fucking hard to comprehend?
>A map?
what map?
yes, the Greeks in Greece were not speaking Greek
we must tell historians about this discovery
the "modern" Greece is one of the oldest countries on earth
you wrote to me
History of modern Greece starts in 1828 my dear
yes
one of the oldest countries on earth
and Greek history started millennia before
It's funny how no one wants to be Eastern Europe, but everyone wants to be East Asia.
There was no Greece at a time, just other regions that unified. Saying the "oldest" for different people speaking different unified is pretty broad.
>Prague is more western than Wien
i dont understand your retarded post
the ancient greeks inspired western civ, but greeks including the ancient ones always were an eastern european civilization
Greeks created the West and East
Greece is central European
rich = western
poor = eastern
When Portugal becomes poor, it will be considered eastern Europe.
My blyat ancestors :)
>when
w-we western nao?
Yes, for me Slovenia is one of the best countries on Earth, it's moderately rich, very ordnung and clean, a perfect example for every Slavic country and if I ever run for president in Poland my only program will be "just copy everything from Slovenia".
I'm dead serious
slovenia is a non country
en.wikipedia.org
this is what humans use
Ireland was for 800 years under the faggot British. Survived cultural, linguistic and genocide through famine. Now are richer than they are.
Fucking based Ireland
We're pretty much recognised as a country by the whole UN. Even North Korea, which doesn't recognise SK as a country :r)
I am a Greek
i dont care about the un
the whole balkans is useless
except Greece ofc
>Survived cultural, linguistic and genocide through famine.
the irish are anglos
they dont have a culture
so, still better than Poortugal and Greece, still western germanic wends and so on and so on
Slovenia is a wonderful country, the best one in Europe just after Croatia. Beautiful mountains, warm sea, Austrian-tier architecture and urban planning, ordnung, safety, tidiness, cozy slavic language.
Greece is better than slovenia
you slavic subhuman
Indeed.
I'm thinking about going to Slovenia on vacation, what's the coziest city close to airport or train or something?
Greece is the best country in Europe
the problem with czechs polaks and hungarians on Sup Forums is that they are too poor to visit more countries to see how europe really looks like
there's no need to be so rude and antagonistic, try to act a bit more civilised
i hate all subhumans
Greece and Finland didn't undergo a period of state socialism in the 20th century (although both had bloody civil wars in which communists nearly achieved victory)
Eastern Europe is't geographical subject, it's more economical one, also usually Russia is considered not to be a part of Eastern Europe.
But cultuaraly Europe can be divided as catholic(western Roman Empire) and orthodox(Eastern Roman Empire).
>what's the coziest city close to airport or train or something?
Zagreb or Vienna if you come from Poland.
Greece's heyday was 1500+ years ago. Now its a filthy, debt ridden, shithole. Hell even the Germans marched in and flew the Hakenkreuz in front of the Parthenon with ease. A country that still uses donkeys and carts to get around is not a 1st world nation.
>slovenia
>city
nope
anyway, skip the Bled meme and visit Bohinj or Posočje.
alright
ok noted
>Poland
>Czechia
>Slovakia
>Hungary
>Slovenia
>Croatia
>orthodox
>Finns
>Scandi
What "culture"? We have more in common with Austrians than with Russians, meanwhile Greece has orthodox Balkanite culture.
your post is full of lies
you must be a slavic subhuman in america
there is no balkan culture you slavic subhuman
Greece has a Greek culture
>Greece
>white
>Slavs
>Nonwhite
Inb4 muh living standards, you'd be shocked at how poor Greece is, it is poorer than we are now.
it's not an economical, cultural or geographical term. it's a bullshit cold war age meme perpetuated only by literal imbeciles
its not you slavic country
slovakia is a gypsy slav country
slavs are subhumans
We don't exist?
I really wish Russia ceased to exist, the world would be so nice then.
estonia is a russian province
same with all other slavs
i wrote country
instead of subhuman
An erasmus student I met said Ptuj and Skofja Loka are God-tier towns. Pretty much the entire country I want to see.
yeah and we'd all freeze to death in the winter
gotta keep that natural gas flowing....
Central Slovakia has more German surnames than some parts of your cities. It is funny how here lots of people have surnames like Krauz, Muller, Weffers (they have considered themselves Slovak for half a millenium through) while you have so many Onurs, Muhammeds and Abdullahs.
Portugal is poor my dear.
t. killed by mafia assassins
portugal is a wealthy country you slavic subhuman
You gook apes were Africa tier just a few decades ago, your main cultural export is boy bands that look 14 years old due to plastic surgery, and working for your companies here is universally considered a nightmare as you abuse workers (even cases of beatings several years ago). GTFO.
I am a Greek
>yeah and we'd all freeze to death in the winter
We can buy gas from Norway, or just switch to other sources of energy. Also, I don't want the landmass "Russia" is located on to disappear, I just want the Russian state to collapse. If the Chinese or Americans took control over Siberia, they could supply Europe with gas, we don't need "Russia" to do it.
Advantages of dissappearance of Russia would be bigger than disadvantages.
In Southern Italy this sort of thing haplens all the time yet noone cares, cause they're ,"western".
Then you're a lazy poor gypsy who thinks he's superior to people who earn the same as you but look whiter and don't litter the street so much.
Greeks are the hardest working people on earth you slavic subhuman.
Greeks are better than other humans
slavs are subhumans
and out of all subhumans on earth
a slovak calls me gypsy?
wew
Finns are Asian
Greeks created western civiliztion
No one thinks southern Italy is western desu.
Also, you seem to suffer from an inferiority complex. Do you really care if you're called western or eastern that much? Do you think less people want to visit or invest in Slovakia because it's labelled as "eastern Europe"?
Anyway, even if "Central Europe" became a common phrase, still, it would have pejorative meaning in the west, because it would be associated with nationalist, xenophobic anti-EU countries like Poland or Hungary, not with liberal and progressive Czechia and Slovakia, so you'd want to stop being called "Central Europe" again.