Spain has had no government for 8 months now

Spain has had no government for 8 months now

>GDP growth is 2.7% in 2016 and 2.5% extimated growth in 2017
>unemployment to drop to 18% by 2017
>public debt is mantaining stable

So tell me, does Spain have the best bureaucratic machine of the west or is it that in reality government does more harm than good?

We're special.
For example; Spain works best when the machine has no owners, or when the machine has only 1 owner who's owner because he's the biggest.

Pls stay without government making meme laws and accepting all the rapefugees 24/7/365

Government does more harm than good.

They do things with the best intentions, but they often have averse consequences years or even decades down the line.

Hey Spain
I heard you can work in Spain one day and make enough to make your rent for the month in some places. True?

A trait that you have passes to all your sons

AUSTERITY IS WORKING

PRAISE AUSTERITY

AUSTERITY IS T-HE KEY TO PROSPERITY

100% true if you want to live in nowhere, matajudios de despeñaperros superior del solar de cristo y todos los santos de nuestra señora de la eterna salvacion.
From 1 to 10 how important is to you to have any social outlet?

Empire again is the only salvation.
Revive Isabel and fernando as cyborgs or lichs.

>matajudios de despeñaperros superior del solar de cristo y todos los santos de nuestra señora de la eterna salvacion
LOL

Just go full ancap. only 3 out 10 people here pay taxes and most of our infrastructure was mode by private companies the only thing would change is being able to use child labor in the cities instead of just the moauntains and the jungle

A friend said he was living a walk away from the water, not working hard at all. Such is life in Spain. I need bars and women though. NYC it is for me then

Deep breaths merkel

Is Peru the closest one got to Ancap, or is Chile even more deregulated?

I think it's a combination of Spain profiting from all the tourists who don't want to go to Erdogatopia anymore and modern politicians doing their best to ruin their country.

We would need a more lax guns regulation to go full ancap(This applies to the wole continent)

Seriously bro, your friend was living in a cave or what? Is not possible to do that in Spain, unless you do 600€ in a day or so. Things here are cheaper than in the rest of europe, but not that cheap.

Spain is actually one of the best countries in the world, the EU is the source of their troubles.

>matajudios de despeñaperros superior del solar de cristo y todos los santos de nuestra señora de la eterna salvacion.
Sounds really confy to me. Where is it? Extremadura?

There is no austerity in Spain. Since the "austerity" policies the public debt as increased incredibly high, the State waste much more money than ever. The only austerity here is for the people, the state keeps wasting to feed the eu monster, that is politicians, stupid laws and prohibitions, banks, corporations and shit.

That money was used to bail out banks afaik.

my rent is 200€ a month for a modern two bedroom, apart from big cities rent is cheap.

>my rent is 200€ a month for a modern two bedroom
Don't tempt me man.

It was a meme name, matajudios got it's named changed sincce jews cried and the like, 50 people that lived there wanted propaganda

If you know spanish you can get that, otherwise you gotta pay up.
Shit in dickfuck: Nowhere is cheap.
As you get an inch close to anything relevant shit goes crazy expensive.

>Matajudios de despeñaperros superior del solar de cristo y todos los santos de nuestra señora de la eterna salvacion.

jajajajajajajajajajajjajjajjajaj

Where the fuck do you live.

Where the fuck do you live.

It has to be a forgotten 50-people village in the middle of Castilla.

They can't even provide anything. They just borrow money to pretend to provide something that almost always ends up being super shitty(don't get me started on Spanish healthcare) and kick the can down the road.

>matajudios
lmaoing my ass off

>don't get me started on Spanish healthcare
Get started you fucking moro.

Gandia

I hate socialized medicine so much. The most infuriating thing of it is that every country with public sector medicine does insufferable amounts of propaganda on its citizens on how the state system is one of the greatest in the world, or how it is just a budget raise from fixing any conceivable problem with it. Making an argument against socialized healthcare or in favor of a private (even voucher one) system in my country is like if I ripped apart some live kittens in their presence and started eating their guts in front of them. The brainwashing is too strong and people here unironically believes that our barely-1st-world country has the best medical care in the planet.

A private insurance here is like 50-60€, yet people are unable to see how they could afford it if the state wasn't taking them +50% of their incomes every year and the poor get used as non-arguments for the utter nonsense our socialized healthcare is. If people cared about the poor they wouldn't put them in third-class hospitals with third-class personnel.

I have a relative that had to wait for more than one year to have a (luckily benign) tumor in his ankles removed, and after a whole year he only got it removed from one, so he'll probably have to wait another year just so they extract the other one. That's two years for something that private sector medicine would have sent you to surgery the week next the doctor's appointment.

I had a teacher in high school that had a tumor in the from lobe of her brain, she had to pay 5k€ to have it removed via private healthcare because in the public system she would have had to wait almost a year. She had to pay this much because she didn't have an insurance, which is something she has done ever since then.

Goddamnit, this is so insane yet nobody dares to speak the truth. Socialist brainwashing in action.

Socialized medicine, IT'S FUCKING TRASH. PUBLIC SOCIALIZED MEDICINE IS THE WORSE SYSTEM EVER CONCEIVABLE AND IT COSTS LIVES

>matajudios de despeñaperros superior del solar de cristo y todos los santos de nuestra señora de la eterna salvacion.

Introduce a mixed system like ours, where you can opt out, starting from an income that suggests you can afford more than public medicine.

>Chile even more deregulated?
Chile is a socialist shithole

Jej superior

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I've had already heard people from Germany telling me (actually, ranting) about how shitty your system is but you guys are hysterical about keeping it anyways for the very same kind of brainwashing we have here. Referring to picture attached.

We already have that kind of system in Spain but only for public servants (funcionarios) in which they can choose whether the taxes from their paycheck go to our wasteful and shitty public hospitals or to private insurance they get to enjoy. Whenever they were given the choice most of them overwhelmingly chose for the private system. Obviously our deficient public hospitals are only to be paid by the stupid taxpayers, not those in government and public administration.

Socialized medicine is shit, always has been and always will be. The only compromise that would ever work to produce a universal yet decent quality at a decent price would be a voucher system for the poor and unregulated private insurance for everyone else, but this obviously doesn't give that much of an excuse to politicians to tax endlessly, which is the main reason all these "socialized" whatever always exist.

>yfw they changed the name
>yfw they change it again when the time is right and the king crowns himself monarch absolute.

>government does more harm than good?

>live in spain
>much sun
>want solar panels
>have to pay energy companies tax

lol spain is a truly corrupt shithole

were a democracy in name only.

I can't confirm the rants you probably must've heard, as I have two grandmothers and a grandfather still alive, partially due to public health care.

Privatized hospitals are mostly worse than state-run ones, as privatization is good only where there's competition. But the hospitals privatized are often located in the middle of nowhere (hence, no rich municipality to pay for) and face no competition. A huge and noticeable drop in quality is the result.

There are many aspects to this. It is important to refrain from libertarian vd socialist ideology and look at the result in each case.

>our barely-1st-world country

lel that's the best description of Spain there is. love you mom

Let's view it that way:
Sure, you can't change anything for the better without a government.
But the politicians also can't change anything for the worse.

The bureaucracy keeps working, even without politicians. It's why Belgium hasn't collapsed already. In fact, most countries would probably benefit from not having a government for a few years.

Manolo is right.
I'd opt out in literally seconds.

>mfw my dad gets a cardio and he goes sonic-fast mad at public being utter garbage from saying it was so great

Government does more harm than good desu
Our machinery of government is good enough to run on its own because the decisions the leaders are taking aren't to advance their country's but to destroy and remake them
We should be doing such great things and instead we are paying the welfare of ungrateful niggers
No space no teleporters no robots no reorganization of cities and towns to be more efficient and help the environment
No managed reduction in population to help the environment and increase the value of our life and labour

So you would rather there be no hospital at all?

wew lad that's cheaper than what I pay, is this close to matajudios de despeñaperros superior del solar de cristo y todos los santos de nuestra señora de la eterna salvacion?

>matajudios de despeñaperros superior del solar de cristo y todos los santos de nuestra señora de la eterna salvacion.

As true as anywhere else in the world if your expenses aren't many and you have a nice job.

There are no jobs here. Only shit-tier slave jobs for less than minimum wage

I just want them to never elect a President
Everything's so quiet, so great. Economy's recovering, unemployment dropping. No laws against citizenry, no massive expenses on stupid projects. No chance of new corruption as no one gets in any powerful place.

Let's stay like this. Even though our bureaucracy is shit and ever has been since the XIXth century, it works for some reason.

It would be nice to have a perfect balance between intervened services and private ownership (socialized medicine+private insurances, regulated banking against monopolies, shit like that).

This just works. But everything will go shit when we get a President and shitty progressive laws get passed.

t. A socialist who's also a pragmatist

This thread is about worst Ibera

spain is worst iberia
spanish are dirty
they throw trash on the floor all the time
spanish ham is disgusting
paella is muslim food
they are lazy
full of muslims
full of gypsies
spanish water tastes like chemicals
most spain doesn't even want to be part of spain
spain exists because of the castillan oppessor
spain cant even take Gibraltar because they are so weak
they are so bad at football their 2 best players are Portuguese and Argentinian
spanish beaches are all bad, portugal has better beaches
spanish men are effeminate and dress like girls
FREE Catalonia, Galicia and the Basques

Ya vamos por las terceras elecciones.

Supongo que a los politicos les pagan ahora por hacer literalmente nada, lo cual beneficia a todo el mundo

>Worst Iberia

Wors Iberia is Portugal you filthy nigger

you know, in Italy the prime minister isn't directly elected by the people but instead he is nominated by the president of the republic, still the results of the election of the parliament should heavily imply who the new prime minister is going to be.

after Berlusconi left in 2011 the 3 prime ministers that succeded were put there without the consent of the people.. because it isn't needed.

>Monti was in charge of a government of experts created to stop a parliament crisis
>Letta was nominated because member of a coalition of parties
>Renzi same as Letta

Keep in mind that this coalition is formed by parties with opposite orientation.
I wonder what would have happened if we hadn't had a forced group of ministers instead

I'm a Catalan nationalist and I think you're a fucking faggot holy shit

My grandmother still only pays 150 euros per month for a 2 floor 5 bedroom house with garden.

Give back the gold please k thx

To whom?

There are no original jungle niggers anymore.

You're our bastard children.

Also
>Implying jungle niggers knew how to properly exploit the resources of their land

The french have all our gold

Is NYC nice?

>Chile is a socialist shithole
Then why is your people coming here?
:^)

Gibs

Most south americans are very similar to niggers in terms of managing and economics

>not a country

Government is OFTEN the problem. Then it just makes more problems when it tries to fix the problems it originally created. Not always, but a fucking lot.

This is why the concept of limited government (Americanism) is so important. It is also dying.

Fuck that's funny.

niggers won't work even if you cut all the gibs

This obviously the proof that ancap works.

I was in Spain in July. Was impressed by the lack of interracial couples, very few niggers and some shitskins that usually did shit jobs. Granted I only moved by the most uptown neighborhoods of Madrid. Bilbao was full of niggers tho, but still no scandalous interracial couples too. Was proud of my homeland (T.basque-catalan-asturian mongrel), though I fucking hate the accent.

Asturian here, fuck you we have the best accent, women and food. Also, why does Cantabria ALWAYS smell like shit?

Sorry, it's a local thing. You see, around my social circles we have the best most neutral accent of the whole Hispanic world, and we take pride of that. Haven't been to Asturias, so I can't comment on your accent.

Speaking spanish correctly is not an accent

kek

>A FUCKING PINK LION

Democratic government does more harm than good.

Our healthcare sucks because migrants abuse it, otherwise it's great desu.

>perunigger talking about accents

lmao

And even then, Spain has many types of accents. Andalusian is fucking funny m8

Belgium has gone without a government for 541 days in 2010.

Despite the global economic crisis things still went mostly alright without a government.

Pretty much this. Just because there is no functioning government or parliament, doesn't mean that ministries and public facilities all shut down. At least in modern nations it shouldn't.

Most ministries operate independently of governments anyway unless a certain government wants to specifically fuck shit up.

t. Steve Michael Harriston