Has there been a blend of comics and politics that has *ever* worked? It's always seems to fall on either being a popular Dem. at the time getting the 'seal of approval' by a company's popular hero, or strawman portrayals once the honeymoon wears off in a Mark Millar comic.
Pic unrelated, but I thought it was funny as hell as to the apoplexy Bendis would have if this went viral.
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sick cover, broham.
>It's another Sup Forumstard who doesn't read comics thread!"
This.
Has there ever been a quality portrayal of politics in comics? Because if the instant reaction is "its a Sup Forumstard who doesn't read comics" without a response, it seems telling that it is really uncommon.
That's subjective but most comics tend to have very thinly veiled political messages to not so thinly veiled messages.
Cap was a pro-intervention piece of propaganda that was spurring people to get on Nazis. Superman is a socialist. Then there's the X-men
The difference is they've either been altered to more palatable messages, are vague enough to be tolerable or are just so irrelevant in a modern context it doesn't register. I mean Nazis are basically cartoon supervillains now punching them may as well be punching fucking Cobra.
captain america punched hitler in the face
>superman is a socialist
care to elaborate?
Back in the 1930's/40's, when a lot of comics and cartoons were anti-nazi propaganda. The Nazis were all strawmen, of course, but they were actually funny strawmen/decent villains, because they didn't need to waste time convincing the reader not to like them.
>two elements that should not mix
>can't N2 freedom of speech
you're aware that there are political cartoons produced every single fucking day?
Superman started out fighting big banks and shit like that, sticking up for the little guy. It took a few years for him to become the boy-scout he is now.
To be fair Political cartoons are fucking terrible.
V for Vendetta
Some issues of Alan Moore's Swamp Thing
Green Arrow/Green Lantern
comics have been political as long as they've existed, I'm sure somewhere in the thousands and thousands of portrayals there has been something good
Yes, Cerebus the Aardvark. Don't worry, I don't expect you to read it since you don't have a serious interest in the medium.
I'm just glad they haven't ruined this place like they did with Sup Forums.
Lex Luthor is still his #1 arch. That's gotta still count for something. Right? Kinda?
It's too damned bad they've all but castrated his social messaging, he's just a big ad for "might makes right" now.
>It's always seems to fall on either being a popular Dem. at the time getting the 'seal of approval' by a company's popular hero, or strawman portrayals once the honeymoon wears off in a Mark Millar comic.
This is the part of the post that makes it clear you don't read comics. You're aware of Mark Millar and that time Obama was on the cover of Spider-man, good for you.
Classic Wonder Woman used to have great parts about stuff like prison reform and stuff like that.
The original and new Prez.
DMZ
Black Summer
Ex Machina
Political cartoons are a great example why they shouldn't mix.
Unless it's Kelly. He's great.
Not Obama is Superman on Earth 23 you casual.
I guess my main experience with politics is in cape comics. Haven't read Swamp Thing, but Watchman and V definitely had their bents.
Any time Marvel tries to get 'topical' induces a major cringe, even as far back (relatively) as Civil War.
I thought the civil rights issues in God Loves, Man Kills was neat, but is there anything known for nuance?
Didn't know about Green Arrow + Green Lantern. Was it a specific run, or has there been recurring themes?
The only ones I can think of are X-Men and Green Arrow off the top of my head. Everything else comes across as annoying or preachy. Unless we're talking about how every comic in the 80's were tackling the real life violence in the streets, but I don't count that.
Lex wasn't big bad businessman Lex until the 80s, he was a much more generic evil scientist before.
so you hate freedom of speech and/or chances for people question or use critical thinking skills. got it.
scuse me
*for people TO question*
If I drew a turd and wrote "Democrat" on it does that mean I'm witty?
Are you blind? Every thread has some Sup Forums asshole posting about their bigotry and demanding the actual readers of comics prove that one superhero or another isn't pro-Hitler.
It's not just some temporary troll flamewar from Sup Forums, this board's topic has been completely undermined by it.
t. shitty political cartoonist
>Has there been a blend of comics and politics that has *ever* worked?
It was cool when Obama was on the cover because he was an actual comic fan.
Trump would probably just call you a nerd and talk about his daddy's money.
not at all. i imagine that we can now somewhat narrow down the scope of people who don't like political cartoons because they have a loose grasp on semantics or logic
>Cerebus the aardvark
>Redpill Garbage made by a literal schizophrenic
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That sounds great actually.
>Hey Mr. President here's a comic of you
>Who's that?
>Spider-man
>What? No, he looks wrong. Spider-man has blue.
>No this is a different Spider-man, Miles Morales
>Who?
>Miles Morales a new Spider-man
>That's stupid. Ridiculous, get this nerd shit out of my face. Ridiculous.
>male version of mainstream feminism
first 10-12 volumes were good to decent, but after that the only redeeming quality was Gerhard's art
No, the only time it """works""" is if you agree with the soap box. Like people watching South Park who think they're better than everyone else because they're "in the middle" and everyone else is a retard.
And seeing how I still haven't read a comic book about Hillary being portrayed in a bad light while I must have read over a dozen mostly DC books that think making their current arc's villain say "Make X Great Again" means they're completely devoid of any interesting ideas and are riding the flavour of the month sky high. Shit, if covers are anything to go by pick up the new Faith issue to find out why you should #VoteForHer.
Essentially I would avoid explicitly political comic books and refrain from writers who would use the lowest hanging fruit to serve their popularity.
surprised clinton haven't jumped on the comic bandwagon..
or maybe they have
don't pay attention much
Look at how well pandering to the liberals has worked for Marvel.
I don't think she'd find a big audience.
The creation of Superman
Valiant has Zepplin as a Clinton supporter.
you just used "big two" examples which are mainstream as fuck, and then painted everything else with a broad and negative brush.
Slap a Jap.
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>What? No, he looks wrong. Spider-man has blue.
I genuinely don't think he'd even know that.
>Why Spider-man? Why he's on his own? This guy, he probably isn't even the strongest guy. He should team up with Batman.
>He can't team up with Batman.
>What? That's stupid. Aren't they on the same team? The Avengfuls? I'm sure Batman is on that team. Stupid. Put me on the Avengfuls comic, with Batman. Stupid.
I think Trump knows who team Batman is on he is him after all
The Frontiersman was pretty great, too bad it got 451'd
The last time I used Surgeon X as an example of a terrible comic book I received responses telling me that indie shit nobody's heard of doesn't matter.
I literally cannot please everyone because you people focus on one small part you feel you have superiority over to reassure yourselves of your beliefs.
>Has there been a blend of comics and politics that has *ever* worked?
Yep
Dumb casual, don't talk about shit you know nothing about.
Cerebus was actually quite left-wing and feminist during its best years, and it only went Sup Forums-tier red-pilled over a decade into the series.
There was some good stuff during the schizophrenia years, like when Cerebus was a shepherd or when Cerebus played hockey.
legitimately Sup Forums threads are typically ignored on Sup Forums though
>when cerebus was a sheperd or played hockey
well whatever game that was, yeah i agree, but it took WAAAAAY to long to and WAAAAY too much useless exposition to get there, only for the end to be what i thought was extreme paranoia
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>I think Trump knows who team Batman is on
What? Not the Avengfuls? Right, right, he's on the Suicide Team. With his girlfriend, Harley Quinn. I tell you, if I ever needed a girl to fight Superman and stop him from snapping people's necks, that Harley's it. Tightest ass I've ever seen.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!
>Teen President
No thank you.
Last thing I fucking need is another 18 year old that wants to talk about their perfect society with no problems and how Anarcho-Socialism is totally a thing that exists and can work.
Look prick, I'm not screaming and whining about how Batman comics shouldn't BE ALOWED TO portray elitist plutocratic supremacy by breeding in their portrayal of the Wayne family lineage.
I'm especially not wasting my own and other people's time by spouting that off in a Batman thread.
I just don't buy the comic, and allow the DC artists/writers/editors to portray their fucked up worldview however they please.
Because they have that basic right and I accept that fact.
I'm not trolling every Bat-thread that pops up and pushing socialist agendas on people who just want to fanboy over how edgelord Joker can be.
I'm not posting doctored shitpost pics to upset anyone who wants to have a pleasant Sup Forumsnversation.
This has never been the thread for that crap.
So take your bitching back to the echo-chamber that spawned it.
What a weird hodge podge of knowledge Trump does and doesn't have on Superheroes.
But I guess he would know.
I wonder if Baron likes Capeshit.
They really aren't.
That's not real, is it?
>take your bitching back to the echo-chamber that spawned it
But he's already on Sup Forums.
But dude weed bear lmao.
Oy vey, he knows where I liff!
>I'd pay a MILLION bucks to watch Harley Quinn make out with Spiderwoman, you know, Scarlett Johanson's character, I'd pay it, I'd pay the whole thing, you know I could, you know it, I wouldn't have to though but you know it. You know it. They'd let me watch, too! You know it.
Of course it is, Marvel commissioned a Pro-Trump cover with their most famous Hispanic hero and is going to publish it.
Disgusting, Katana and Scarlet Witch is the lesbian softcore show you want to watch
Trump IS popular with Hispanic voters.
Isn't Marvel basically only in business anymore because of their movies?
I heard they had huge losses for the comics.
What are you even talking about? Arguing rights and throwing insults because your feelings are hurt?
So defencive over what? I'm so confused.
>Inquisitive Slavic Chicken
Nah they've just been getting blown the fuck out by DC lately so everybody is just saying they're in the shitter now but they're only doing slightly worse off than last year but overall better than they were like a decade ago.
Green Lantern/Green Arrow is pretty much the only "topical" cape comic that did anything right. Everything else comes off as too preachy or too one-sided.
But that was a premise that worked and two characters that played well off each other. Ollie was a bit of a dick and kind of holier-than-thou with a lot of his values and Hal was simply ignorant of how Earth was after so much time fucking off in space. They weren't afraid to deal with some serious shit too, and more than just "This is in the news right now, so it's gotta be cool" like Waid's current Champions run.
Adams' stellar art certainly didn't hurt things either.
>>google 'Barack Obama in Comics'
>>see the usuals
>>alrighty
>>wait, whats this?
>>whaaa...?
Every four years the BIG two put out "get-out-the-vote" comics to encourage election participation.
They're bland little freebees that don't take any position beyond "vote, it's your civic duty"
Spidey was webswinging with Obama in the past, Superman's shook hands with Reagan, Carter was on a cover with Captain America.
They just give these things away because they're always written like crap.
In the main books that you actually pay for they'll be a bit stronger in their political messaging, but even then they don't outright say who to vote for.
Friendly reminder that FBI has been right about everything.
If you are voting for Hillary at this point, it's either because you're completely ignorant of how far the rabbit hole goes, or you simply want civil war/world war 3 to happen.
There is no other option.
Well I can see why people would think that, because the amount of pandering Marvel has been doing lately is pretty disgusting.
I mean I never liked pandering but Marvel showed me that there was an amount of pandering I could tolerate and Marvel has clearly passed it.
Transmetropolitan.
Get the charicature right at least. It's not as if there's any shortage. It's not his daddys money he'd talk about. He'd talk about how the comic he was in is the GREATEST, the BEST. the GRANDEST comic ever made. That they'lre going to make a baloon of him and parade it down the middle of New York on thanksgiving.
Sup Forums shitposter says comics are all liberal, again, just like he has in dozens of threads that didn't ask for it.
What the fuck do you think the response to that is?
Use your fucking brain.