What do you guys think of 1984?

What do you guys think of 1984?

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Looks an awful lot like 2017...

It's a good instruction manual.

Written by an edgy angry "commie" that hated USSR more than nazi germany.

I like how it wasn't actually the far-right which has ended the driving force for a totalitarian world but the libertarian side out of all.

amen

I read it for the first time just a couple of years ago. The first half or so was remarkably spot on in describing the world we live in today, even though the exact technological manifestations are different.

Brave New World describes the methodology more accurately, though.

It's all of us man.

Great year for movies, Karate Kid, Ghostbusters. Back to the Future, etc.

I agree, it seems our world is becoming a mix of the two

West now, the book.

If you like reading short, insightful books, make sure to check out those by Zbigniew Brzezinski as well. They fall in a similar category of describing the future in sufficiently general terms as to remain accurate and insightful decades after they were published.

It's a nice book about dangers of totalitarianism but it's exaggerated obviously.

>Karate Kid
>Ghostbusters
>Back to the Future
Wow that was all in the same year? Man kids these days are so missing out.

Thanks pham

I am a huxley fan myself, I see the parallels with brave new world rather than all knowing 1984

bnw is good but Huxley's writing style irks me

Should be mandatory reading

Was a good year I was 4 just starting school.

The part about the war machine rung very true

It was 32 years ago.

I hear this case a lot. It's not a Huxley vs Orwell situation.

Both had their concerns and their visions of a dark vision based on those concerns. But it's actually both.

It's so easy to see parallels to Brave New World, and you'd be right to see them.

But we also live under a police state that is constantly redefining the meaning of words as well as encouraging the college educated (the party, if you like) to self censor and fiercely punishing those who do not.

I have a serious bone to pick with Orwell. Huxley's novel was short and to the point. Orwell decided to warn us against the destruction of language and its impact on thought. So what does the stupid cunt do? He leaves a 20 page manual on the fine nuances of Newspeak. So basically warns us against a dystopia and then leaves a fucking manual. Twat.

Are you me? Born in 80 myself

>writing style irks me
yeah same

Well here in high school it's almost mandatory to read it; it didn't help a lot though. Most people are too stupid to understand fully the book.

Proof that time travel exists and someone sent a documentary about the (for us) future back in time for them to make a movie about it.

Orwell wasn't a complete fucking loon like William Pierce and his Turner Diaries. Orwell would've been a libertarian would he still be on the earth. You faggots should be hating him.

Her armpits look like vaginas lmao

Orwell kept changing his views as he learned.

He was basically just an armchair activist. Happy to sit back and judge. When he actually did go fight for socialists, he couldn't stand them and left.

He's one of those intellectuals who didn't seem to grasp that socialism won't work because the people won't act like the intellectuals expect them to.

> to make a movie about it.

we're talking about the book though.

Most people suck the teachers off saying what they want to hear like "oh yeah it's tyranical, it's bad it's fascism" but in fact they didn't understand anything, they are just eating leftist propaganda while they still can't analyze it by themselves.

His characters are too weird and harder to relate to, but he describes the atmosphere well. Just my two cents

>Twat.
Don't be a luddite. Somebody else would have generated a manual if Orwell hadn't. It's the inevitability of technological progress, and a great thing to be able to cite when discussing the fundamental impact of human language.

Another name I've been seeing pop up with increasing frequency that you might be interested in is Michel Foucault. I haven't actually read any of his works, but his conception of Panopticism is pretty relevant as a control mechanism.

>she fine though

I'm not being a luddite. I get that language changes, I studied history, I've seen ye olde words, but that was a natural progression.

I won't complain in outrage if we start adopting text speak, or if we Brits finally drop our attachment to British English because everyone else is learning American English, that's not a big deal.

The big deal is he deliberately outlines how you can control language to manipulate thought. You already see this in earnest now with SJWs.

What if they enforced that, and a whole generation grew up without access to these words?

He didn't have to explain it to us in so much detail at the end of the book.

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Somebody would figure it out anyway if he hadn't laid it all out for all to see. Kind of like the Jews who initially got a hold of the dead sea scrolls and tried to release the contents in encrypted format got out-jewed by some information theoreticians who managed to undo the encryption and then publish it so everybody could see what was in the magic scrolls.

Wouldn't you be at the advantage if you could see the other team's playbook?

will read it after i buy it at interliber

It's overrated

Fahrenheit 541 is better

Catchy anthem in the film, book's not bad either.

I thought the answer to everything was 1776 for americans

>Wouldn't you be at the advantage if you could see the other team's playbook?
That's a good point. I hope it's enough to hold back their newspeak.

I say read both. 541 is definitely a more fun fictional mind ride vs. the didactic rule book.

its here

If you can find a picture of the back of the Hillary Bus, it has 1984 eyes. Funny as hell and I'd post it, but it schlongs gthumb so I don't know which one it is to post for you.

i did a quick search with no luck but i came across this video

youtube.com/watch?v=6h3G-lMZxjo

I found newspeak interesting, but it was a little excessive for something that only has barely manifested itself in reality.

It wasn't supposed to be an instruction manual XXXDDDD

I think Orwell was far too knee jerk overall really. Some good premise but Huxley is right, it's much easier to control and pacify a population by simply making them so comfortable they become docile and complacent.