Why does "free" healthcare work in Europe or Canada but not in America?

Why does "free" healthcare work in Europe or Canada but not in America?

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Because illegals would abuse it.

It does not work. You receive increasingly bad service, the costs explode and it is obvious it will collapse at a certain point of time, particularly in face of the mass invasion of rapefugees.

It isn't free. But besides that it only works if the vast majority of the population agree with it and support it. That ain't happening in the states.

it only works in free countries

Americucks are inherently selfish, probably due to so few of the being white

What do you mean by "work"?
Having an appointment with a specialist be almost free is cool, not when you need to wait 7 months to get in.

It doesn't work as well as most people think it does

We subsidize the world's armed forces with our inflated defence budget and that doesn't leave much for gib me dats that other countries are used to

Europe and Canada's healthcare systems don't work. What made you think they did?

It barely putts along because these countries have nationalized (stolen from the government) resources, or colonies in Afrika that produce wealth for them. lol

It doesn't , who can afford it goes private

>Africa producing anything

It should also be mentioned that many of these "surveys" that often get cited by communists have very clear selection bias in favor of
"free" healthcare systems. The use statistics like "health care accessbility" which is basically just a measure of how "free" the system is as well as faulty stats on life expectancy that don't take into account non-healthcare related variables. Infant mortality is also a favorite statistic they like to use because European countries usually have very different standards on what constitutes an infant mortality.

america has too many trash people who would abuse the system.

This.

If the rest of the West had to provide for their own defenses, their health care systems would be far less robust.

I have a terrible headache for months
Needed to pay with a coupon just to have an appointment and now I have to wait until next year to have a brain check up
I just hope I don't have a cancer or something like that

there is no "free" healthcare, you imbecile.

My mom pays like 600 euros every two months for public health insurance.

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If the headache persists continuously for months, sorry frog but you have cancer.

go to the ER.

They don't have 47% of the population that pays no taxes.

You might have noticed at one point during your learnings that America spends one fucking trillion a year on military.

We don't have money for European limpwristed socialism.

It doesn't.

I pay 600 Euros a month. Plus 5 Euros per prescription. Plus I paid 500 Euros for an MRI scan last year, because they didn't want to give me an appointment for 3 months and it was an emergency. And yesterday I paid 35 Euros for shit to cure my flu.

What the fuck do you mean with "free"?

B-but it's free for migrants!

fucking cancer nazi german

FLU IS A VIRUS YOU AREN'T SUPPOSED TO TAKE MEDICINE FOR IT.

fucking faggot.screencap this. when you get a super-bactirium like VRSA,

you'll remember the greekfag that told you you were fucked.

>for migrants
for tanned germans, you mean.

>600 Euros a month.
This. I pay about 250 € per month and I am a student (from Germany). It is a large percentage of my total income. Insane how much we have to pay and in the end we get a really bad service and have to wait a long time. But of course there is enough money for all those rapefugees...

Because we're not getting shot every day

>Why does "free" healthcare work in Europe or Canada but not in America?
It does not work. Because these are advanced western countries, however, they can delay its failure by decades, even generations. But it is unsustainable - a vortex sucking the life out of every country that implements it.

A completely free market system is infinitely better for the vast majority of citizens.

Easy
>Population size
>Ethnic breakdown
>Moral integrity.

Less people, and people in Europe are generally much healthier.

There is no free healthcare.

>Why does "free" healthcare work in Europe or Canada but not in America?

It doesn't work there either. The "free" services are paid for in enormous tax rates and fucking astonishing wait times.

It doesn't work it Europe.

Because we're subservient enough to pay an ass load in taxes for poor service if that means poor Joe Shmo needs a doctor.

It's not free, its 1/3 of the national budget.

Too much gibsmedat

To many freeloading gibmedats and not enough hard working anons.

I already did and they told me that it was not an emergency
I waited about 3 hours in a corridor at the hospital for nothing

this

It works in homogenous white countries where everyone contributes.
Usa is not white, not even majority white. Soon its not gonna work in Europe too because of shitskin invasion.

Truthfully? It doesn't. After robbing the pension funds dry, they are rowing back. Hard. Pay for your dentist, pay for non-critical meds, pay for this, pay for that.
It slowly but surely is going from "universal" health-care, to "life-support" health care.

wtf how do you cure a flu

go to a private physician not to a hospital. like a pathologist. if the thinks something's wrong, he will find you an oncologist.

if it has been on for so long though, it's not even worth it. I mean, the cancer has already spread and chemotherapy/radiation will not give you a significant amount of time relative to the amount of suffering you'll have to go through...just saying.

The actual answer is because healthcare in the US is for profit. Doctors, hospitals, tech, pharma, insurance - everyone's in it to make as much money as they can because that's the American way. Other places with universal healthcare tend to have stricter regulations on things like salaries and (especially) drug costs. In essence, because there are fewer players looking to turn a profit there tends to be a little more money left for actually treating people's ailments. But you'll never be able to regulate US healthcare in the same way (it would be too "unamerican" to deprive companies of as much profit as they can create) so it will never have a Euro/Canadian style universal healthcare system.

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>free
>works
>socialism
etc

>when I get AIDS from being gay, society should pay for it

This is what every liberal thinks.

Stupid burger nothing is free. Someones paying for it. Id been better off an illegal immigrant in the U.S as far as taxes and healthcare go. Socialist ideals could work if every citizen contributed and didnt just live of the working class. Every rich faggot banker doctor whoever all live off the working class. Its an impossible disposition as breedings exponential growth has surmised the Job and trade industry. So basically i think people are retarded. Stupid animals who enjoy pleasure over thought. The black death is making a comeback.

>FLU IS A VIRUS YOU AREN'T SUPPOSED TO TAKE MEDICINE FOR IT.

What is aspirin? What are soar throat lozenges? What is gargle liquids?

>german medicine.

i think german doctors prescribe 10ml of tears of happiness of refugee children for flu and flu like symptoms.

It doesn't fucking work. You pay heaps of fucking tax, receive substandard medical care and then often have to pay more after treatment.

The whole thing disincentives people to take care of themselves. We waste fuck tons of money on fat fuck Polynesians whose family are almost always on some sort of benefit anyway.

Free? I am sorry but I have to work my ass of paying for my health care. It's a good system but calling it free for *most* countries is bollox.

>and then often have to pay more after treatment.
We don't have to pay anything.

>lozenges
I have a pack in my drawer, worth 3,45
>aspirin
I have ibuprofen, 10 pills, worth around 2 euros
>gargle liquids
for faggots

unless you are stockpiling on cough medicine, you are either lying or your doctor is over-prescribing.

OR merkel is making you pay extra euros for your medicine to help poor rapefugee children. I wouldn't know though...

>free healthcare works
>have to pay over 50% of my income in taxes one way or another

Gee, I sure enjoy those bureaucrats taking money in between transfering it all over the place.. If only there was a money saving alternative. Like private healthcare or something...

Cant even into medical science GERMany? Aspirin doesnt do shit.

that doesn't cure the flu, just helps to deal with its effects.

change your work contract, i pay only 10% overall (got both zus and health insurance)

Because we spend enough in taxes keeping our blooted military going. We shouldn't be forced to pay for health insurance if we don't want to.

bigot, only rich people can afford private healthcare!
haven't you seen american hospital bills? hospitals don't cost anyone anything in europe

t. left wing in the UK

It doesnt work anywhere

The only difference is that if you have a high quality population like Europe of 95%+ whites it won't necessarily implode on itself immediately but rather over time

Because it's never free, you fucking retard.

You mean like where Achmed is free to rape your children?

Anyone defending the American model is an idiot.

They spend more, for shittier healthcare

>having to be the special flower defending impossible arguments

Sadly i cant argue but the World is close to 100% trash to begin with. Other then the beauty of innocent youth. Sadly with social engineering they are being bred to be stupid crybaby idiots. Degenerate beings who think the World owes them for being born. Im just thankful for Vodka.

There are no free countries left.

>free
In my province (B.C.) I still have to pay $72/month into health care AFTER whatever the fuck else they've deducted from my taxes.

B.C. spends something like 40% of their budget on healthcare so realistically I'm paying something like $400+/month for health care as a single male.

Medical malpractise kills hundreds of thousands of people every year in the USA. So does the distribution of deadly and hugely addictive opioids like Oxycontin for minor pain anyone else would suck up like a man.
Universal healthcare is the right of every first world citizen.

>everyone's in it to make as much money as they can because that's the American way
This is why we have the world's best doctors, hospitals, healthcare, Universities, etc. even though yours are """""free"""""

Haha French faggot cant get cancer if you never go the doc.

Because the health insurance isn't free, and is that Shoe?

>UK #1
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Its a right of those who actually fucking pay for it.

I don't mean that my job takes 50%. I mean overall alcohol taxes, VAT taxes and petroleum taxes combined together.

In canada most people never see doctors for routine check ups or physicals because the service is terrible

I have treated most of my injuries and illnesses myself because it's easier than using our health care system.

I would only attempt using it if I was very seriously injured or I'll and that would only be as a last resort. If I found out I had a serious illness with a relatively low survival rate I would accept my death rather than seek treatment in our medical system.

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That being said "refugees" only shorten the tine this takes it imploding on itself is inevitable regardless

Yes, absolutely. You've traded 'good enough for all' and gotten 'best for some' in return. And as long as your society is happy to make that trade, there's nothing inherently wrong with it.

>Canadian Health care
>Works

It doesn't work in the UK anymore, the NHS is in the red big a large amount.
bbc.co.uk/news/health-36341235

We have free healthcare but the quality of it is bad and you have to buy most of your meds. If you want to get real medical help and shit you go to private clinic and pay money.

On the plus side in an emergency you will be treated and they won't charge you a dime.

Anyone who says it does has obviously never had to use our medical system. It's especially bad in large cities

do you spend all your money on alcohol and gas?
food is like 8% vat, and the beer i bought yesterday (still have the receipt right here) was 23%.

Your "good enough for all" is not "good enough" for those suffering and dying in a queue.

Short answer is that it doesn't work.

Long answer is that it occasionally works because the insurance companies don't have the whole government in their pocket.

Is the same here. We have the 2 systems. Doctors want to make money so they ll proscribe useless shit to carge the health secure and make money

Meanwhile public hospitals are crowded with bolivians and shitty infrastructure.

fpbp

It is collapsing. As is the generation conduct retirement system. Thx cultural marxism for destroying birthrates.

You can have state-healthcare etc. but then you need a zero immigration policy and high birthrates.

we had less degenerates. But this is changing fast.

fallacy of many questions

Sadly that's just medical reality. People die while waiting for transplants and procedures in every country on the planet. In places with universal healthcare it's a big deal because it's seen as a failure of the system to adequately provide for citizens (the whole point of having universal healthcare). In places without universal healthcare it's not seen as a serious problem, either because it's not something the healthcare system intends to solve, or because it's assumed that it will eventually be solved without outside interference due to prevailing ideology.

Again, not better or worse, just different.

NHS is a shitty system. How bad does it have to be that junior doctors (who in good systems know they have to do thier time at a shit wage before life gets good again) actually go on strike?

I meet so many doctors and nurses who have had to leave the NHS because its just plain dangerous.

Meanwhile retarded brits have been brainwashed into thinking the NHS is special, unique and functional. So much so that even as it crumbles around them they will scream bloody murder at anyone trying to fix it.

You are lumping a ton of different systems into one bucket and expecting an easy answer.

it barely works here and costs us a fucktonne, the country can expect to be in the shitter for a couple decades while we wait for the old people to die off and stop draining our """"""""free"""""""" healthcare

Free healthcare works only when there are no blacks.

It still only working in UK because of NHS.

Greed by insurance companies
Greed by hospitals
Greed by doctors

Insurance companies lobby the government to make laws that protect them.

The taxes that I pay tell me that it isn't free. Plus the enormous waste in the system in Ontario amounts to billions of dollars per year not including system abuse.

Simple, it doesn't. That's why we are in the process of moving towards privatization.

youtube.com/watch?v=XrivBvZ--SQ

too many fat and unhealthy people
nationalized services only work when the people are proactive to the point of basically not need the service.

IT doesnt work here, its abused, a door-to-door donations person literally came to my house 2 days ago for the local hospital.
We have terrible health care, and people who want real treatment travel to the states if they have the money.

You already spend more tax money per person on healthcare than either Canadians or Europeans

Neo cons and the 1%
Here's an article you should remember when you vote.
ibtimes.com/political-capital/hillary-clinton-gets-13-million-health-industry-now-says-single-payer-will-never

most of it goes to NIH who's research doesn't kickback to the average person for 30 years. Though if you're super rich you can get the benefits right away

No it doesn't. It goes to Medicare, Medicaid, the VA and health insurance for government workers.

But averaged across all citizens, it's higher than any country other than Norway and a couple of microstates.