1) a free medium sized apartment 2) government provided healthcare 3) a government provided wife to comfort you and bear children in order to increase the numbers of the proletariat 4) a government job at the regional physics research facility (we will make rockets that actually work instead of explode like Capitalist Elon Musk) 5) government sponsored social events and athletic clubs where you can meet people from your age group 6) free food at the government cafeteria 3 meals a day
It's basically like college never ends and your life and experiences keep growing endlessly.
>muh innovation and technological progress the internet, the computer, the nuclear reactor, the jet engine, the satellite, GPS, etc. were all invented under government funding, not private sector. The private sector just made the money, they didn't innovate.
>socialism won't work because of racial diversity literally the only reason this is true is because you are too racist to treat other people as human beings. YOU are the obstacle, not some "natural" force because races are not real they are like cinderella and santa claus. There is no such thing as the white race or the indian race or the chinese race or the black race or the jewish race...its made up garbage that YOU choose to believe in just like religion or fairytails. Then, you turn around and basically say "Socialism will never work because of racist people like me."
who pays for this user, minimum wage workers? what's the incentive to become a doctor or some other skilled worker if all of this is provided ? why even work?
Alexander Wilson
>a free medium sized apartment
Apartments fucking suck. If I lived my life knowing I'd be refined to an apartment forever I'd probably kill myself.
John Garcia
fuck you commie
Asher Peterson
Money doesn't exist in a socialist society so there is no question of paying. We have the land, the raw materials, and the labor needed to produce goods and services which will be distributed equally through central planning.
People who want to become rich would no longer become doctors in socialist society. The people who want to really help others would become doctors. Because doctors and janitors would be payed about the same with slight variation based on effort.
Nobody would be forced to work but i believe most people would choose to work anyways. For example, most billionaires today don't have to work but almost all of them do anyway. There's literally nothing else to do in life.
Xavier Mitchell
Maybe if we turned around a small portion of our TRILLION DOLLAR WAR BUDGET we could fund some of these things.
Brandon Scott
in fact, it isn't the lack of incentives what worries me, is the people in charge, who put that people? there's something 4 the individual or must sacrifice 4 the community? what they do if u don't agree? etc ....
Henry Wright
This system is unsustainable and doomed to collapse. And that's exactly what happened with Soviet Union.
Jayden White
>other peoples money must be stolen by the government to provide me with the life i'm to useless to earn
Brody Nelson
>races are not real why is anyone responding
sage and hide
Matthew Wilson
In this very same socialist utopia, unicorns will become real. Hitler will be able to come back to life and give everyone a high five and Trump will be emperor for life.
Andrew Russell
Maybe a computer algorithm
Nolan Cooper
theres like 2 of these threads a day. if you want a socialist society move to one faggot.
Zachary Bailey
There would be democratic elections for leadership just like now.
Except, there would also be referendums to decide how many houses should be built, what type of healthcare should be provided, how long the workday should be, etc. Things you cannot vote for today in a capitalist society.
True socialism is freeing and there is absolutely no coercion whatsoever. There is even freedom of speech if the socialist society is not under attack from capitalism.
Jacob Rodriguez
>6) free food at the government cafeteria 3 meals a day Hahahahahaha. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. HAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAA!
Gavin Cooper
Soviet Union is collapsed because their army betrayed the government
Christopher Moore
All of this is achievable with tribalism and hereditary property.
Isaac Campbell
I have a full time job, I work over 50 hours a week in a highly lucrative field. I just got off work and I am shitposting during my long weekend break.
Do you want me to suck capitalist dick even off the clock you fucking cuck?
Benjamin Green
also, just ask on b, but is that her?
Matthew Wood
>We have the labor Do we? If I work making televisions for a living, what incentive would I have to show up for work under your system?
Christopher Foster
I would prefer that you moved to another society so you are not a hindrance to socialism here.
Levi Ramirez
It should read liberal instead of communist.
Lucas Scott
Too bad you get no political rights, no freedom of speech, no dreams or hopes. And you get political witch hunts and a fucking police state.
Sounds like a good deal.
Colton Watson
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Nathaniel Cooper
In socialism, the stores are empty because the people are given everything that comes into the store In capitalism, the stores are full because many people cannot afford to buy what is in the store.
>socialism won't work because of racial diversity It won't work because human greed and an inability to filter out people with those kinds of characteristics.
You'd need to keep your borders open so that the bad eggs can leave for the capitalist societies but then you would still have a problem with all the shameless lazy fucks mooching off of the rest. This would mean there would need to be an enforcement mechanism which would kick them out into the capitalist countries.
There's your gestapo again. To be fair though, if you could just deport rather than kill people who aren't compatible with your kind of society, then it wouldn't be so bad.
Ryan Sanchez
> dubs tell truth It's their turn to suffer now. Don't spoil this, tank speedbump.
Josiah Foster
>free
Kayden Morgan
So when are you moving to Venezuela so you can be apart of a true socialist country?
Thomas Powell
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Ryder Kelly
well Comunism wasn't that in soviet russia was mostly a bunch of militars an people from the party doing what they want, no vote no decision, in cuba works that way also, and in every communist country
Cameron Campbell
>goods and services which will be distributed equally through central planning. who does this planning? Oh right, the extremely totalitarian state who refuses to relinquish power and their disproportionate wealth compared to the rest of the population while the thought police tell you to keep quiet and work those machines. Every socialist government ever
Brandon Bell
>In a socialist society, you would get:
>1) jailed >2) starvation >3) jailed >4) execution without noticing any of yuor relatives
David Torres
Venezuela has private property, wage labour, privately owned factories, free trade agreements, etc.
In other words it is a capitalist society with a center-left government.
Andrew Robinson
cause u know comunist is not democracy
Grayson Ortiz
There is nothing forcing us to be like Soviet or Cuba in terms of lack of democracy and freedom.
Jaxson Ortiz
>free No, I would pay for those things for everybody else because I work.
Austin Hernandez
Do you have any evidence showing that socialist societies executed or jailed more people than the USA or the UK?
There were famines like Holodomor in capitalist run countries too. The bengal famine under British Rule in India killed 5 million people in 1944. There hasn't been a famine since that time in India. Famines happened under feudalism too, including in Ukraine.
Aiden Johnson
Does anyone know if Putin eventually had sex with Natalia?
Xavier Miller
>Holodomor >capitalist nice try faggot
Noah Harris
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Xavier Carter
I meant famines similar to Holodomor have happened in capitalism. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
I accept that Holodomor happened in a self-proclaimed socialist state.
John Hall
lad I honestly think that worked great back then when the poor farmers from russia got nothing and they kill all the elites cause they was starving the country, but now u can build a more social state without comunism and you can also have public industry in some sectors something like almost all the european countries but not all must be the state
Wyatt Brooks
Hey moron, social programs already take more of the budget than the military, and they do nothing but go up and up .Military spending has been on the decline. Socialism is a pyramid scheme, wake up you idiot.
Landon Thomas
literally half of holodomor pictures are from the great depression
Caleb Evans
How is mixing capitalism with socialism working out for Spain?
Spain is a bitchboy of Germany. It is not really a sovereign country anymore. Just like Greece and Portugal.
Isaac Thompson
why should i have to give up something that i worked hard for?
Nicholas Morgan
What are worried about giving up? I am sincerely asking what your property holdings are that you are worried about.
Colton Young
Military discipline and draft is the answer. Every citizen needs to serve in the government for a few years and everyone receives equal gibs from gubment enough for basic necessitates.
The people serving in the "army" do normal public work jobs like maintain roads but also man mostly automated factories and stuff creating wealth.
Innovation is encouraged through financing ideas that focus on automation and providing the manpower for them.
In Iceland at least we would make more than currently on taxes just by by having the "army" catch and process all our fish instead of selling the rights to private companies.
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Chase Morris
Spain kill his industry back in the 80's in the industrial restructuring when the get inside the EU and sell all the public enterprises and give all to the construction business and fail b
Lincoln Gomez
you and what army?
Benjamin Campbell
i liked the first part but assuming people will work if you give us everything is retarded. Drugs and other vices are better than work to a lot of people
Landon Thomas
Isn't that the plot of "we"
Levi Harris
and, is how works in almost every country here u got lot of public services, private industry and more taxes
Jonathan Sanchez
>races are not real lol
You are a fucking retard.
Brandon Russell
>Do you have any evidence showing that socialist societies executed or jailed more people than the USA or the UK?
did USA or UK had a system of anonymous public delation? did USA or UK jailed own people for things like listening foreign music, or owning some foreign goods? did USA or UK practiced jailing/sending to labor with mailing prohibition?
>There were famines like Holodomor in capitalist run countries too.
except that in socialist countries famines can be caused by government on purpose (just because collective regime of peace and love needs some monies for tanks and other war devices to impose peace and love on neighbors, and monies can be earned only by selling raw materials abroad)
Julian Lopez
Free is like Kryptonite to The Happy Merchant.
In Russia anime cosplay you.
Anthony Gutierrez
It didnt work with Pinokio
Matthew Torres
I have 12 plots of land i dont want to give up
Benjamin Russell
>Trusting human beings with that much power
are you retarded OP?
Andrew Perry
The only currently known way to keep power out of the hands of illuminati jews is through elected officials that actually represent their voters.
It's better power is in the hands of someone who answers to the people instead of someone who the people have never heard of like it is today.
Matthew Price
> three stores are empty because everything is given time the people
I can't even tell if this is superb bait, a masterful feat of doublethink, or just the stupidest shit I've ever read
> the Soviets were masters of early just in time logistics on a scale never repeated, not a poorly centrally run communist state that failed to feed their people so well millions died
Sebastian Nguyen
>In a socialist society, you would get: Venezuela
pic related
Noah Gomez
There are plenty of druggies in capitalism too. In fact only 126 million people in this country have full time jobs. 200 million are sitting around. In socialism, there would be more people working, not less.
Why don't you want to give them up. In socialism, we would take care of the elderly--you would be taken care of. Your kids would have free college, a job, healthcare, housing etc. In other words, you are forced in capitalism to hoard money and property because no one will take care of you if something goes wrong. There is no reason for hoarding in socialism. No reason for insurance companies either.
There is power in capitalist society too and it is in the hands of the few. We are talking about democratic decisionmaking--there can be a rotating committee it doesn't have to be one person or one group.
Landon Watson
Einstein was a socialist and hated capitalism. Nice try though.
Cooper Butler
Einstein thrived in a capitalist society. Nice try though.
Easton Jones
He did almost all of his important work in Austria-Hungary, which was a monarchy, not a capitalist society. Also, he worked at the government patent office because no private company would hire him.
Capitalists in USA did fund a nice retirement for him though.
Noah Barnes
Okay but who's going to pay for all of that?
Hudson Bell
Monarchy still isn't socialism.
Communists need to kill their selves or leave the USA.
Filthy lazy faggot
Levi Jones
LOL
do you know what it is to pay for a car and wait 10 years to get it? graduate and then you are sent off to some god forsaken village to work there and you have no choice? eating oranges once a year? having electricity for 2 hours and then no electricity for the next 2? if your neighbor doesn't like you and says you are against the party you are fucked?
you live in dream land my friend
Lucas Diaz
Here you go you filthy commie
please KILL YOUR SELF DIE IN A FIRE LEAVE YOU MUST GO
Colton Rodriguez
Bulgaria was a shithole before socialism, and is a shithole after socialism.
Socialism did make less of a shithole for a while.
Noah Flores
>this photo
This became a "People who did nothing wrong thread"?
Landon Phillips
retard, why dont you go live in North Korea or Venezuela? Give me one example where socialism has worked and people weren't living in misery
Bulgaria now is 10000000 times better than during socialism >you can have private property >you can work whatever you want, wherever you want >you can buy a car right now >you can go on vacation in other countries >you can eat oranges every day >if your neighbor says something stupid about you nobody cares >10% flat tax >this is all bad
there is a joke here, if something is "cдeлaнo", meaning made in the USSR, then it's absolute shit
you know nothing about socialism and just fantasize about big government filling in the role of your missing dad
Christian Stewart
yea we had that in poland for 40 years ... and there was no toilet paper in shops becaouse workers had completly no motives to hard work, they was slackin in work becaouse they had to be paid, and nobody coud fire them . (10 man with 1 shovel) and having a job was compulsory. shops was empty so we was getting food for money+government ration cards .. like in korea. of course you could eat diner from government that was basicly shit. after 40 years we was behind marocco .socialism degenerate people