What's the thought process of people falling for the anarco capitalist meme?

what's the thought process of people falling for the anarco capitalist meme?

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mises.org/system/tdf/The Ethics of Liberty_0.pdf?file=1&type=document
youtu.be/YgHNtzxO0y8
v.i4031.net/StatistFallacies/Wouldn'tWarlordsTakeOver
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_India_Company
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protection_racket
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Licinius_Crassus
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articles.latimes.com/1993-10-13/business/fi-45290_1_predatory-pricing
ilsr.org/walmart-charged-predatory-pricing/
nytimes.com/1993/10/13/business/company-news-wal-mart-loses-suit-on-pricing.html
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That everything bad that happens in the world is due to some form of government and the hypocrisy that the free market isn't coercive.

Libertarians forget that man is a predator when left to his own devices.

Strip away societal rules, and the world becomes a jungle full of beasts.

>not wanting freedom to gun down dindus with an attack helicopter and no prison
You're the meme bro

mises.org/system/tdf/The Ethics of Liberty_0.pdf?file=1&type=document

Ancaps don't want to Strip away societal rules, they just want the market to make them instead of the state.

"i want to be hardcore, but the state wont let me"

> they just want the market to make them instead of the state.

Markets without regulation are predatory in nature.

I don't consider myself an AnCap, but I believe private industry is more effective and efficient than government managed services. Compare a construction site or a local business repaving its parking lot and that one stretch of road that's been restricted to one lane traffic with no construction workers present as long as you can remember.

Fuck me, I use up my insurance to go to a private health clinic because the wait times are unbelievable.

In a free market the only way I can get rich is by creating value for somebody. Businessmen would love to rip people off but they cant because the competition would Woop their ass

You don't have to be an ancap to understand that private business is far more efficient than government.

Its because of democracy, and international law, those are the huge cancer

To be fair, a lot of if not all the evil in the world is only possible due to civilization. But we obviously would fall apart without it, back in feudal times and before anarchy would have been possible

Can someone post a blank one?

>fails to explain why

>live in ancap land
>become rich through the free market
>own a literal army whose livelihood depends on you
>use that army to make yourself king
PROTIP : we already live in an ancap world.

>In a free market the only way I can get rich is by creating value for somebody.

I'm glad we agree, which is why my slavers just killed you and abducted your kids to work in my factory that supplies the One True Faction with bullets.

I'm not here to educate you.

If I was, then you wouldn't be a libertarian.

Nothing wrong with ancap at all.

People are mistaken if thinking it just means no government would be sufficient. It isn't.

Physically removal of democrats, communists, socialists and other leftists are necessary first step toward a free society.

This

>when you posted a meme that isn't yours the creator 3D fax-printed you a recreational nuke

>Physically removal of democrats, communists, socialists and other leftists are necessary first step toward a free society.

>create free society by removing free thought
>unironically becoming the thought police of a totalitarian state

This is why ancaps and other hypocrites aren't taken seriously.

They listen to sub-human retards like Black cumLizard and cult leader Stefan Molyneux.

They can't force you to pay royalties, that's a violation of the non-aggression principle.

Ancaps are the biggest retards on this board. Arguing with them is useless. They cover their ears and refuse to realize how any kind of anarchist society ultimately results in dictatorship.

When I asked some guy what was to stop the richest guy in a region from ordering his security forces to collect taxes from everyone around him, all he could say was shit like "muh free market" and "bad for business" for three posts straight.

It's fucking exhausting. All I have to say to these retards is that they should remove themselves from the gene pool as soon as possible. And I don't just mean castration, to be clear. Kill yourselves.

Crop the text out you 12 year old.

Do leftists merely think?
No, they impose their fantasies through the state.

This is why they must be removed.

Anarchism with any principles is an oxymoron. IT's unenforceable.

I sincerely hope you were being sarcastic in your post. Otherwise you are so dumb I'm surprised you can write.

youtu.be/YgHNtzxO0y8

It's simple; Government generally doesn't NEED to be efficient, so it isn't.

The only real exceptions are in times of war, when the usual incompetence might cost you everything, so you MUST clean up your act.

Armies show this most clearly. The U.S. Military has gone for decades without a real adversary, and thus has accumulated enough 'Pentagon Bullshit' to be defined by it. Compare to the IDF; whatever your thoughts on Israel, the fact that they constantly face an existential threat forces them to be perhaps the most efficient modern military today.

I got an AnCap buddy. I don't understand how they think any level of society can function without some form of government either being established or just emerging from the vacuum of power.

>The U.S. Military has gone for decades without a real adversary, and thus has accumulated enough 'Pentagon Bullshit' to be defined by it

Good thing the competition has been fighting even less

You are unable to fathom how hard it would be to accumulate that much wealth.

It has been addressed many times before.
v.i4031.net/StatistFallacies/Wouldn'tWarlordsTakeOver

>You are unable to fathom how hard it would be to accumulate that much wealth

This coming from a britbong.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_India_Company

Clearly private entities can recruit armies powerful enough even to topple established states. Your selective knowledge of history is astounding.

Hell, it can be done on a smaller scale too:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protection_racket

It's already happened and is happening. That you not only think it wouldn't get worse, but would actually go away without the rule of law is dumbfounding.

You are fucking retarded.

Hoppe is just a fascist who hopped in the ancap train. It's pretty obvious.

>East India Company

Read a book nigger, the east India Company amassed that much wealth because it was given a royal charter and granted monopoly status. That's mercantilism not Capitalism

This guy then.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Licinius_Crassus

>general
>politician

Are you even trying?

t. zero knowledge of roman history

get gud

it'll be fun tho

>bought his own army

That's all your tiny ancap mind needs to think about.

Anyway, I suppose the Sicilian mafia is going to magically go away when anarcho-capitalism is instituted?

Oh, while we're on the subject of Crassus, I'd like to point out that one of the ways he made money was by running a private firefighting service, something which ancaps love to promote.

Funnily enough, the number of fires in Rome actually skyrocketed as soon as he started it. I wonder why that was...

And another thing you goddamn waste of oxygen: if as you say private citizens can't afford an "army," then you don't fucking need quite as many armed thugs to push them around now do you?

I recommend the helium tank. It's cheap and painless, and the world would be vastly improved.

Not anymore due to that cancerous french republicanism

The only borders an ancap respect are from à monarchy

Ancap is the second worst ideology after pic related

Kek subtle reference

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ancap pls stop

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Wew lad

need more ancomemes please

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Unless they create a monopoly.

Very anti-authoritarian libertarian here, and I can say that, having almost gone full ancap before coming to my senses, the thought process is that it's the somewhat logical conclusion made by libertarians that accept the notion that libertarianism can't work if the government gets corrupted or people, stupidly, vote away their rights, so they say just want to do away with government altogether. The flaw in the logic is that unrestricted corporations will become more corrupt than a government under that system.

You cant create monopoly without regulation, also just in case , copyright and trademark are anticapitalist

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Private interest, you statist

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I still dont see how the corruption of a corporation can be dengerous without régulation

Régulation is the corruption itself

>You cant create monopoly without regulation
Another retard.

>be Walmart
>open store in new town
>operate at a loss for several years, because you can afford it
>make your prices so low that none of the local shops can compete
>competing shops go out of business
>raise price above retail, now that there's no one to challenge your prices

This has happened many times. And this is just in a proper state, with regulation. Imagine what could be done if nothing were off limits.

>live in AnCapistan
>me and 50 of my closest neighbors are sick of no roads, no cohesive planning, no public education, no public police force, slavery, heroin, no laws regulating food and drugs
>decide to create a federation which unites our properties
>elect a leader, then elect people who can organize a police force, education, public utilities
>build roads connecting our properties
>agree to allow free travel between each property, agree on a tax which each property owner pays to help fund various projects we want to accomplish

What happens now?

>operate at a loss for several years, because you can afford it

>Not buying products that are generating a loss and reselling them

I forget the guy's name but someone actually did this and beat a "monopoly"

>Change thé type of business, and wait until walmart raise the price to go back into the previous business

Is it so hard to think peoples can be adaptable? Are you that retarded?

Why à federation and not a confederation?

If that fédération get corrupted would you be able to leave it?or will american civil war 2.0 append again?

>>Not buying products that are generating a loss and reselling them

This is unbelievably stupid. Unless the Walmart is dense enough to constantly let one guy clean out their entire stock who is going to go to the guy who's selling the exact same goods as the Walmart down the road except at a higher price?

>buying products that are generating a loss and reselling them
reselling them where, faggot?

People CAN be adaptable. That doesn't mean that the majority ARE. If your prediction were accurate, it would have happened by now and Walmart would have been thwarted long ago.

>Unless the Walmart is dense enough to constantly let one guy clean out their entire stock

Espect yourself to get expoited for selling at lost
The population can also buy an huge amound of good to stock for when the price rise

>The population can also buy an huge amound of good to stock for when the price rise
But they won't.

>That doesn't mean that the majority ARE
Darwinism bitch

I would

But they won't

The amount of things that would have to go right for ancap to not result in a totalitarian dictatorship or an oligarchy are so extensive that it's honestly amazing anyone could consider this a reasonable position to have

Well then congratulations. You've stopped Walmart from taking over your town. Problem is, they already control hundreds of others, and they want yours. A year later, just as you're beginning to outperform them, you come to work to find your store has mysteriously burned down. What a shame.

Such is life in ancapistan.

Oh? Walmart started war on me? That mean they lost all legitimacy over their property

I can start a coalition against them and take all their stuff

An agressor have no right

Just gun down any agressor, unless they genocide 99% of humanity that wont append

The only real threat are islam in that case

>>Markets without regulation are predatory in nature
Is that a fact there sonny?

>I can start a coalition against them and take all their stuff

>This is how thing's like this are resolved in ancapistan

But thank god we don't have a state threatening us with violence we just Walmart which will slaughter your entire town in order to protect the interests of the shareholders

>I can start a coalition against them and take all their stuff
Hahahaha

You're right. Doing it that way is careless. After all, wouldn't want you riling up the other paying customers, then they'd have to pay to kill people who would otherwise be giving them money.

So instead they kill you and burn down your store.

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>This is how thing's like this are resolved in ancapistan

Thing were resolved like that in WW1 and 2

the more you slaughter the more the coalition get bigger

Except that never actually happened.
google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www-personal.umich.edu/~twod/oil/NEW_SCHOOL_COURSE2005/articles/research-oil/john_mcgee_predatory_pricing_standard_oil1958.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwiPzo-YsvLOAhVM9WMKHYJ7CQAQFggbMAA&usg=AFQjCNG7mdX58m2cGbypfCHbN0jy2yhb1Q

When a company engaged in this practice all it did was strengthen potential competition.

The price would fall and competitors would go bankrupt. However the "monopolist" firm couldn't just raise prices without more firms swooping in. Not only this but the new firms could buy up cheap capital from the old firms that went through bankruptcy court.

Prices always fell. A monopoly was only possible if they continuously provided a better service at a cheaper price. Even standard oil had only 25% market share by the time it was broken up.

>build PMCs and try to take over ancap country
>everyone else builds they own PMCs to stop you
Checkmate, statists.

They don't have to be aggressive whatsoever to make your life a living hell. There's literally nothing stopping the worlds most powerful people from forming a cartel that controls all of the worlds food and water and giving the choice to people between slavery or dying. But at least you got to 'choose' the slavery.

>Thing were resolved like that in WW1 and 2

So we have to have a world war every time private corporations inevitably act in a way that maximises profits?

The store was allready burned, you said it
Purging walmart there would be removing a threat, after all If walmart burn my house they will burn others house

You're retarded. The evil that isn't allowed to flourish in civilizations is the kind you don't really get to see, the shit the AnCap memes makes fun of. Child slaves, rape, roving bands of lawless asshole raiders fucking up small towns and villages, a low life expectancy. The evil that flourishes in civilization is due to idealistic retards. Old people get crammed into old folk homes because apparently euthanasia is bad, abortion is an insult to God, the third world population explosion persists because letting them starve is bad, the third world is pour in into the first world because they're just like us. Anyway, evil exists because we're retarded, not because of civilization.

articles.latimes.com/1993-10-13/business/fi-45290_1_predatory-pricing

ilsr.org/walmart-charged-predatory-pricing/

nytimes.com/1993/10/13/business/company-news-wal-mart-loses-suit-on-pricing.html

Wew lad.

When they maximise profit trough agression not trough voluntary exchange

One day or another they will have enough self préservation to not attack and steal someone else property

Yeah of course the government charges them for predatory pricing, that's not what the argument was about.

The arguments about whether predatory pricing would allow a firm to obtain outrageous control and hurt consumers which has been proven false.

Not to mention that Anti-Trust law in the united States has banned minimum and maximum price contracts by suppliers, which was what the market did to to keep prices at a level that doesn't hurt suppliers.

You say it as if a corporation would act like the mongol empire

>be richest man for hundreds of miles
>can afford to pay more hired thugs than the people around me
>use my hired thugs to make them pay me money
>use the money to buy more hired thugs
>rinse, repeat

FTFY

>It's a "the people would rise up" post
EVEN IF it were done so obviously that everyone knew it was Walmart, if you honestly think the people in the town will risk their lives to drive out a megacorporation so they can pay 10% less on lawnmowers, you are delusional.

or the belgian empire

What's stopping it? Collecting taxes from conquered land is more profitable than legitimate business. Often easier, too.

It won't fucking work but hey idealism is nice sometimes.

Reminder

So the corporation is a governement ? That doesn't change much compared to right now

Also peoples did rise up for that reason before and thats how your country was created

Collapsing, a rogue corporation full of corrupt peoples will inevitably collapse on itself

>One day or another they will have enough self préservation to not attack and steal someone else property

Ok your definitely 14.

Ancap is a kike invention to lure glorious aryans into degenerate mammonism, hedonism and tyranny.

Murray Rothbarth was a jew, as expected

>caring about stone age nigger
Its like if you were taking about alien invaders