Self-loathing Ukrainian here

>be me
>have a bachelor's degree in history
>work as a teacher of history at a high school
>earn about 65 dollars per month
>have to do some freelance job
>still can hardly afford food and rent of a shitty studio in a shithole of a city
Ukraine is a pure hell, especially for teachers. I am seriously considering committing suicide.

Move to Russia, seirously.

>ukrainian
>ukraine

When you buy rope remember to do it with a credit card - you won't have to pay up anyway

His life won't improve much, kek
Go refugee to Germany :^)

Fuck Hardy-(((Weinberg))) and fuck you.

u like doing gay stuff? might be a green card in it for you.

Teachers get the same "money" in Russia. There is basically no point. Plus, I have health issues so I can't do another job which requires physical strength.

...

Average teacher gets maybe about 250-300$, double in moscow. Also avg tutor tax here s 5-8$/h

Well, I have a Ph.D. in history here in Canada but I am working a minimum wage job because competition for professorships is so intense. Join the club.

Fucking polish scum. Welfare niggers of EU. Brits would rather have pakis than you.

Atleast it's better than getting your ass kicked by givi and motorola.

Do you have any actual proof of these numbers? I am familiar with a teacher from Russia and he says that his salary is also very low. Medvedev also said that "if you want to earn money, find another job".

Чё, вы oбa зaбыли кaк гoвopить пo pyccкий
чтo-ли?

Its pretty sad that teachers earn so little money.
The very people who shape our future and have so much influence of the ideals of our young.

No wonder they all support leftist bullshit, I would too if I got payed in pennies.

Do you watch that "medical" show in Ukraine with all the naked women? That was an interesting surprise when I turned on my TV at the hotel.

I suspect that minimum wage in Canada is sliiigtly higher than in Ukraine. Our minimum wage is about 60 dollars per month.

I don't really have time for watching TV.

Yet you have time for Sup Forums?

Also, answer me!

65$ a month !
you're joking, right

I would say the joys of living in a 1st world but you are hardly 1st world.

Sup Forums is better than TV. Ukrainian TV is very degenerate. They basically show nothing worthy.

If you're white enough, I'll host you in the US until you get a good job and live on your own. I'm dead serious. I might make you run some errands with me near the mexican border.

You didn't answer me!

No, I am not. That's the point. And all young teachers in Ukraine get the same money. More experienced teachers get about 100 dollars per month.

Very low, but still average income is like 15k rub.

>$65 month
Dude that is what i earn in working for 2 hours.
Bro, how do you even survive on that what the fuck.

Just apply for Karta Polaka like the rest of your kin here. If you don't have a Polish relative then fabricate one. I'm sure that with your corrupt public services anythings possible.

Thats literally what i get in less than 2 hours of work

You know that Ukraine is at war since 2013, right?

Agreed, more refugees for Israel. They should take in the less fortunate. Tikkun Olam!

Where the fuck do you get a job with 33$/h? Thats very high even by american standarts.

Honestly not sure if this is a troll. Less than $800 per year? The fuck?

MinWage in Cda is like $100/ day but Teachers are paid something like $8,000 a month

Kidnap some local girls and force them to prostitute for you bro

Or if you're really desperate, hit up my boy Joni in Kiev he's an Albanian that'll sell one of your kidneys for $100k. Quick 1-2 hour procedure, anesthetic included! (will be subtracted from total sale cost)

how do you survive ?
How much does a coffee cost ? for example.
or when you do grocery, how much do you pay for a week.

I'm not a rich fag, am having a hard time myself.
I can squeeze 50€ a week for grocery roughly

I am white (blue eyes, blond hair), but I am unhealthy for a job that requires physical strength.

?
no it isn't
33$ an hour is a pretty normal wage for a full time somewhat skilled worker.

dik pix?

What is the cost of living there? I honestly can not imagine someone living on 20 USD a month.

Work in a store where i got extra responsibilites which grant me extra pay over the standard one+ deal with the owner.
Usual average per hour here is ~$16-17

desu, I moved to France recently and didn't know shit about economics and history in most of European countries except the major ones.

How is your eyesight?

Seriously, that's something like $65k

33*8*30=about 8k monthly, quit shittin me.

It's Ukraine bro, majority of his actual income probably comes in form of an envelope from "concerned" parents whose children aren't doing well enough in school.

It doesn't have anything to do with war actually. Dollar devaluation is the reason. And the profession of teacher has never been appreciated here. It's my fault that I was dumb enough to go for that.

$20 an hour here is considered full-time skilled-worker status

$33 is like upper administration/branch manager status

But then again >low taxes

is it ethical for me to go there find a wife and she lives here in the us with me, sounds like ill be doing Ukraine a favor.

programmer with 4 years experience in C in a network security firm. I don't get paid per hour, but I get around $7k per month and work on average 200 hours a month, so its around $35 an hour.
However, a lot of this money goes to taxes :(

Maybe Trump will allow European immigration into the US.

that's what my first thought but....
there are actually people who have these incomes

ur not working 30 days a month
and yes all competent & intelligent people will be making more than 33$ an hour, which might work out to 70k a year without counting overtime.

>Teachers are paid something like $8,000 a month

no they aren't.

Immigrate to America and teach Ukrainian/Russian at a University.

Forge a Syrian passport and move to Germany. Merkel will take care of you

>play starcraft all day
>earn tons of $$$$ by being good
>I BTFO all these slave wages

I don't work 30 days/month usually.
And 8k/month is not correct as i have to pay close to 50% taxes, Because muh welfare muh immigration.

But for that I think he would need a masters.

Why does your country suck so much - same question for Russia?

>inb4 Germanistan
>inb4 cuckland

serious question, answer it.

>tfw masters in econ and MBA and get offered like 5 jobs a day
Feels. Fucking. Good.

Would actually like to get a phd one day though

$80,000/ year for a mid level teacher. They max out close to $100k.

They also only work 10 months/year (realistically 9). So yeah, it's definitely around $8,000 per month

I am not trolling, Ukraine is the poorest European country for a reason.

You have internet access and you are settling for $65 per month working full time.

Use your fucking brain.

>Toronto tells a similar tale, with secondary school teacher salaries averaging $87,000, followed closely by their elementary counterparts at $82,000.
Teachers are hugely overpaid in this shitty country.

Came from history and doing my MBA.

What a huge fucking difference. Fuck anyone who says that an MBA is a waste of money.


Just don't be a freak & speak english and it'll pay for itself

No and its going to take over twenty years for
the country just to come back to the level
economic stability they had right before the maiden happend.
WHY DID YOU LET THOSE
FUCKERS INDEBTED YOUR ENTIRE COUNTRY
TO THE IMF. NOW YOU YOU'RE KILLING EACH
OTHER AND IT'S RESULTING IN SO MUCH
UNESSESARY DEATH. NOT ONLY THAT, YOU'RE LETTING YOUR GOVERNMENT
BRAIN WASH THE COUNTRYS' YOUTH.
I had a 15 year old basically tell me that
the civil war is nessesary because Russia and Holdomor. If you want to die, you might as
well dies from trying to due what's right and
stand up to your bureaucrats that sold you
and your country out.

Lol.

That's pretty much nothing.

t.Law fag

I don't drink coffee. The cheapest pack of tea bags is about 1 dollar. I pay about 10 dollars per week.

Post a picture of yourself, are you passable?
If so then you can be an American if you can take getting fucked in the ass for 5 years while wearing makeup and a skirt.

short-sighted...

How much do monthly expenses cost you?

Pretty much the same price for tea bags as here then, Cheapest we sell is about $1,2 dollar/pack of 20.

be happy....you don't live in germany...you don't know what suffering is

That is true only for universities which are engulfed in corruption. Some old teachers also take bribes, but few young teachers would risk to take bribes because they would be totally fucked if caught.

I probably should stay quiet because my country is hardly any better but since no ones answering - it's basically a combination of
>poor leadership
>shitty cultural values
>bad neighbourhood
>history
>the on-going war

>Ukraine is pure hell
>Ukraine
>UK rain
>Ukrai
>Ukra
>Ukr
>UK
>U
>U
>U

$25/hr here, entry level programmer for a small business. I could probably get up to $33/hr if I worked at the more competitive firms, but my current place is real comfy. Sometimes I spend the whole day on Sup Forums. Programming is the easy life, especially if your boss has no idea how software works.

>being born in a shit country
Your first mistake.

>$65 per month.

Holy shit. Ukraine is literally Africa tier. Is Ukraine the poorest country in Europe?

$300 per month?! That's poverty.

I made $300 last night driving a golf cart around.

> earn about 65 dollars per month
And i thought we were poor

If you are young aply for polish card and move here. Like three days ago about 20 teenagers moved to my shithole to attend school and be polish citiziens they are great people. We know how much shit can russian influence do to country especially yours and we are happy to help ukrainians.

>$33/hr
>high

I make $30/hr with only a high school education.

Agreed. I even got mine paid for fully. I think MBA is a meme degree for sure but people respect it a hell of a lot more than my masters in econ which is objectively harder with its statistical and mathematical base. MBA classes were pretty much basic finance, accounting, economics, and then hurrr this is how you manage people. Whatever.

But yes, it's worth everyone should get an MBA (preferably from top 20 here in US.)

I mean like when I see dashcam videos from Russia - this would be unthinkable in Germany.

And when I see how things are "secured" in those countries it raises my hackles.

And why are people in these countries so fucking depressive? Lithuanians have twice the suicide rate of Japanese. Thats insane.

>middle of the picture
>girl getting dick sucked
w-what

Also forgot to add that my dad earns ~$22,000/month due to his own company.
8k/Month is nothing here in the Nordic if you have a qualified job/Buissness.
My store owner probably earn 10x times what my dad does.
Welcome to the first world m9.

at least polish girls are cute
and you have no blacks and Muslims to worry about

No, Moldova is worse

Bosnia and Herzegovina is also pretty up there with its dysfunctional state apparatus and 45% or so unemployment.

Its probably not a real dick ya know

come live with me, user

This. Ukrainefag do you drink? If so, stop. Drinking as a coping mechanism isn't going to help.

Become a freelance writer online. Even at shit rates you can make more money than you do now. You're in the perfect position for this with english fluency, internet access, and low living expenses.

germany lost my respect a while ago. you got fucked by your own political correctness. you weren't strong enough to survive the brainwashing and nazi guilt tripping.

these slavs may be a rowdy uneducated bunch, but i'd rather have them around than you pussy faggots.

Nice. What kind of business? I know it doesn't sound like much but that's my dream job.

It could be worse.
>Be me
>Be a high school economics teacher in a country full of people who think that socialism of any kind can work
>Forced to be in a union
>My best student is one of the six black kids in the town
>White students are brainwashed by vatican jesuit propaganda
I' should just quit and join the military.

come here.

If you are female just marry someone from an EU country that isn't Romania or Bulgaria or Italy.

Well you said you were considering suicide, I'm just trying to help you in that resolve - hanging yourself is by far the cleanest, most eco-friendly, fastest and lest painfull way of meeting with the Maker.

Serious question.

Would hot women from eastern europe move to America and marry someone just to get a green card? Is the "mail order bride" shit real? I mean if they could speak English and knew how to suck dick it might not be a bad deal.

Also, there's tons of foreigners from eastern europe/Russia that come to the US to work. Like every cruise ship, every theme park, and every tourist attraction is crawling with you fucks and your thick accents. Even if you made $8/hr it's still better than $65/month WITH A FUCKING B.A. IN HISTORY.