Anyone else here have dominantly left wing views but feel compelled to support the right because the left has become an...

Anyone else here have dominantly left wing views but feel compelled to support the right because the left has become an existential threat to the west?

Yes

Yes

You realize the classic Liberalism from decades ago is right wing compared to modern Liberalism right?

>tfw when you're a leftist economically but also super racist

Idk what to do famalam

>dominantly left wing views
Like what, safe spaces? Patriarchy, misogyny, hate speech =/= free speech, government telling you how to spend your money, yes means yes consent laws, no difference between the races, financial inequality is bad, wealth is limited, trannies are not suffering from a delusion, global warming is real, coal & fracking are bad, and the holocaust happened?

You know the jews control both the left (they invented communism) and the right (trump is jewish and shinzo abe is a rockefeller pawn).

Left got you by your feelings. But right has you by truth and logic.

The truth about the left is that it's atuoriatian. It steals others labor.
When politicians offers you free collage, they have to take a loan, because they are 19 trillion in debt.
Someone is gonna pay that new loan, and that's gonna be you, later. Difference is you're paying for someone else education.
When you're offered free stuff, you usually take more than you should. Meaning you're paying for other peoples bad choices.

You are literally stealing freedom away from others.
Everyone has an opinion on how to split the economic pie, but it's another thing entirely to create it.
When you remove people intensive to do work, they will not. I think a HUGE population here can attest to exactly that.

You are not entitled to others stuff, no matter how much you feel.

Socialism only works when everyone in the group wants to help everyone else. But human nature has in group preference and segregation.
And while this is true, they import immigrants that will segregate and NOT want help you, or anyone else they see as other.

Left is a prolonging of slavery, because, sure, everyone has a little, but you cant move anywhere, you're stuck on your plantation.

The left is a backwards system and it's inhumane.

I am.

I believe a good education should be assure the state, forming well-trained employees but also respectable humans.
I believe a fair social system is more efficient than a repressive system.
I believe taking care of the environment is important on the long term.
I also believe a bit of multiculturalism bring some new point of view and help the society to evolve.

Sadly, the left now in mostly a highly moral ideology. There is no place for pragmatism.
I believe, since our traditional religion is disappearing slowly from our society... the left have become the new religion this pseudo-atheist are looking for.
I don't known if I express myself correctly....

But sadly, the right is now the counter-cultural movement.
Not punk, not pseudo-anarchist, not black, not feminist, not hippie,... but the right!

I hate was the lefty have done to the left.

The more traditional left wing and liberalism is not inherently a bad thing.
> general equality across the board for all people
> more assistance for the poor
> tended to be less war like then the right.
> tended to be less religious
Liberalism in 2016 is cancerous and even dangerous
> everyone must be equal and anyone who isn't a special snowflake, be it race or one of the 100s of "genders" is marginalized, thus defeating the purpose of equality.
> the poor and downtrodden are just numbers to be provided welfare in return for votes.
> priorities of who should be an ally and an enemy are completely skewed and fucked, destroy Russia but forget all those Isis fighters that have flooded into the country.
The right can be pretty fucked too due in part to religious nuts.
IMO
classic liberalism > classic conservatism> Modern conservatism >>>modern liberalism

>>safe spaces?

no

>>Patriarchy

no

>>misogyny

bad, but overstated; definition too broad

>>hate speech=/= free speech

hell no

>>government telling you how to spend your money

wut

>>yes means yes consent laws

not sure what these do. I think it's OK to have sex with drunk girls who are conscious enough to positively respond to advances

>> no difference between the races

admit that there may be some but think that it's no reason to cantonize or discriminate against individuals, and that many of the dysfunctions Sup Forums chalk up to genes are often the product of their environment

>> financial inequality is bad

it is

>> wealth is limited

planet earth is a closed system

>>trannies are not suffering from a delusion,

I... don't know

>>global warming is real

implying it isn't? are you seriously that stupid?

>>coal & fracking are bad

they can be and do not trust the coal and fracking companies to either spend enough money making sure they don't fuck things up or to spend enough money to make things right in the event that they do fuck things up

>> the holocaust happened

oh, Sup Forums

Fuckin' nailed it bro.

Welcome to National Socialism.

well said, compadre.

This was me a couple of years ago.

Then I actually got a job and realised that poor people are not, in fact, adorable Tiny Tims being starved to death by the evil corporations, but rather the scum of the earth who'd just waste any money you did give them in redistributive economics, and the government gives it to them anyway because from their perspective welfare's actual purpose is vote-buying, not helping hardworking families survive hard times.

So now I don't know what to believe, but whatever it is, it doesn't involve welfare.

I dont know what I am exactly. Socially left or left leaning anyway. Economically conservative. I just think liberalism and millenials are destroying the west. USA will collapse in thirty or so years, maybe less, and everyone will sit back crying victim.

Yeah, exactly. It is.

I was an old school Democrat, pretty much.

I don't see the Republican Party as ever having lied to or misled its own people about the nature of its positions nearly as much as the Democratic Party has. Just look at the systematic way the Dems went about getting CA for themselves. Very strategic, well-planned, deliberate: import ignorant peasants en masse, let them have citizenship, give them gibs, make sure they vote Dem. If the Republican party had ever been THAT cynical and calculating, CA would still be a red state.

Anyway, modern leftism is basically brainwashing people en masse, a la Orwell's 1984, to accept a "benevolent" pseudo-Marxist dictatorship of what we once called--with distrust and appropriate dislike--the "one percent." AKA the global elites. "We will take care of you"--yeah right. Read Agenda 21 and your liberalism begins to go out the window, at least if you have a brain and common sense at all. It's a blueprint for takeover.

I hate it that ecology somehow became the territory of the left. It doesn't even make sense, nature has always just been a way to trip out, from the leftist point of view. They aren't responsible types. The ones who ought to really care for the planet, for the sake of their grandchildren and as God's creation which should be cherished, are conservatives.

I also don't hate gays and feel that they should be sensibly integrated into conservative society. I have no issue with first wave feminism either. The "feminism" which came after, though, is total poison.

In all else though, I am pretty fucking right wing. Especially regarding crime, "equality", Islam, and niggers. Also, the basic superiority of European-descended people, with Asians having also considerable potential. And most of all that left-wing, white-hating Jews just need to go in the oven for what they have done and are still trying to do to civilization.

>> everyone must be equal and anyone who isn't a special snowflake, be it race or one of the 100s of "genders" is marginalized, thus defeating the purpose of equality.

I feel like a lot of this shit is essentially "noise", designed to keep us distracted and bitching amongst ourselves so we don't notice the water we're sitting in getting hotter and hotter.

>There is no place for pragmatism.

This drives me crazy. No common sense or awareness of, you know, reality. It's all drama queen bullshit, irrational and shrill. MLK would fucking shoot himself if he could see what's become of our world, and his movement.

>I believe, since our traditional religion is disappearing slowly from our society... the left have become the new religion this pseudo-atheist are looking for.

Perceptive, yes, I agree. It's the program, the way to indoctrinate the masses.

>planet earth is a closed system

The Earth receives 174,000 terawatts of solar radiation.

Yeah basically. Anti immigration is left anyway.

As for capitalism it's not capitalism in Australia it's robber baron shit with Steve Irwin style propaganda on top it's fucking putrid.

I would be for supporting gays and the current freedoms of women but they've just abused the fuck out of the privilege so I'm done.

yes, exactry my feels.

Tell me about it.. i was and i am pro climate change, weed, equality and all that crap but the left isnt the left anymore these things only matter if they somehow also include the "benefit" of importing more radical third world garbage with third world problems.
Like the new left says "yeah climate change exists (i agree with them) that means we now have to accept all of Africa as climate refugees to genocide the whites ...eh i mean to help the poor africans (at that point my mind is full of anger and i basically left the leftwing) . Yeah ..cant take that shit anymore the "alt" right is more left than the regressive left at this point.
What i mean by that is that the left literally calls normal concerned people anti liberal/nazis/bigots..... while they import more much more fundamental,crazy, anti gay/women/atheist people with a religious supiriour complex that would kill all leftist, democracy and liberal values if even given the slightest chance.
And that is why the modern right is more fair, liberal and "leftwing" than the regressive left.
I seriously cant believe people that claim they are today leftwing and politicaly edcuated the two together to me make no sense ... at all.

Here's a (you) for having to type all that

same. if there is a plebiscite on gay marriage- im voting no because im sick of their shit.

If only there was some kind of Nationalist socialism

Yes.

I would be a social democrat if they weren't cucked.

which is exactly why you should stop left wing views

don't you get it yet?

This post was pure Sup Forums. What a bumblefuck

Yes.

>the Republican Party as ever having lied to or misled its own people about the nature of its positions
>we're against big government
>but lets explode the budget on military spending and legislating morality
they are liars at their core, all politicians are. the republican form of conservatism is to conserve their own position of power, not conserve the traditional values that hold our society together. there is no difference between a democrat or a republican, politicians in america follow one ideology: zionism. the zionists want marxism, the republican opposition is orchestrated to make the plebs think democracy is actually working. they are made to be the bad guys so the democrats can do their dirty work, but the republicans are not innocent for taking no action, but rather are just as guilty for existing to enable the dems

>I hate it that ecology somehow became the territory of the left
the appropriation of environmentalism by the left is part of the deception to make the liberals look the good guys and conservatives the bad guys. remember when it used to be called conservationism? conserving is what conservatives do. the left's main tactic is to control language, so that they may control the culture it is tied to.

>I also don't hate gays and feel that they should be sensibly integrated into conservative society
normalizing counter-evolutionary behavior is not good. this doesn't mean they have to be hurt, but it's normalization creates more of them out of choice. those who are made that way should remain in the closet, for the benefit of the rest of society

>I have no issue with first wave feminism either.
the first feminists were marxists. universal suffrage has destroyed democracy. women are not fit to participate in governance. they are hormonal due to their cycle, which alters their thinking and decision making. they vote with feelings. they should focus their feelings on nurturing the family, that's what feelings are for.

All I know is 10 years ago if someone said something "racist" around me I'd be like "Wow how can you actually believe that" and now I hate niggers

That makes no sense to me. Why would you feel that those who share your views are an existential threat to the west unless you do not sincerely hold dominantly left wing views?

Same desu
I want social democracy without islAM and nikkers

>tfw National Democratic Socialist

its typical left wing irrational and illogical thoughts

i say put them all in a rocket ship and see if they reach mars

i feel sorta similar, i started off in the purple square on the political compass but find myself going more counterclockwise as the days go on
if america was 100% white i'd probably be a socialist

I think what he means is pretty clear.
I think his claim is that the left has been hijacked by (((leftists))). Thus, though he identifies as a leftist, he feels compelled to support the right until the (((leftists))) are vanquished and the leftists are back in control of the left.

This is step one in breaking the conditioning and escaping the Leftist holiness spiral.

u fkn rtarded m8?

safe spaces should be encouraged, it's segregation. it's only a matter of time before they can't defend a white safe space.

its like promoting BLM because of their 5th and 6th demands to segregate themselves, DO IT FGT

You basically support Geert Wilders.

European right is different from the American conservative right. Here we value 'tolerance', it has lost its meaning due to being abused by socialists but it used to mean that everyone is free to do as they please as long as it doesn't negatively affect the public domain. Not taking into consideration anyone's petty feelings.

The open border policy is a good example as it has great negative effect on a large portion of society. it will inevitably lead to degration within our country as the immigrants take up rare resources, commit (sexual) crimes and most importantly they will take away from the freedom in the public domain as they want to implement their tribal values and push sharia law. Which is very oppressing towards woman and gays, the exact opposite of tolerance. Leftism here is pure fascism, they use force to suppress opposition both in the public and personal domain.

You're missing the point. Segregation to these people always means the same thing, they can get away from you, but you can't get away from them.

They will segregate when it benefits and un-segregate when it benefits to. The best solution is to just remove them entirely. Deportation, cleansing, I don't care at this point.

but thats not reality, first comes segregation.

then comes oppression.

then comes self deportation.

Why does he identify with leftists if he doesn't agree with (and thus at least implicitly support) leftists?

I'm economically pretty liberal, but the modern left has gone off the deep end on social politics

identity group self-interest + degeneracy (DURR let's turn 4 year olds into transvestites)

>let's turn 4 year olds into transvestites
Literally

Shit has gone too far.

You're kind of a legit retard