Scotfags, what you think of this faggot Nicola Sturgeon trying to independent us again?

Scotfags, what you think of this faggot Nicola Sturgeon trying to independent us again?

(IMO opinion she's probably going to wait for us to leave the EU, then just join us back up)

(Also hi to Count Dankula if you here, nigga)

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telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/28/nicola-sturgeon-heading-to-brussels-for-talks-with-european-parl/
metro.co.uk/2016/06/26/scotland-is-told-it-wont-be-able-to-stay-in-the-eu-after-brexit-5967168/
fabians.org.uk/a-respectable-englishness/
yougov.co.uk/news/2013/11/25/what-we-believe-about-immigration/
yougov.co.uk/news/2016/08/26/one-five-say-uk-should-not-admit-single-migrant-tu/
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Does anyone else here think Sturgeon's a dead bitch walking?

In her own constituency (Govanhill), it's known for being a massive slum filled with immigrants. Pensioners are arming themselves with keys because they keep being assaulted by "refugee" youth, the SNP have brung 1,000 immigrants to Scotland to try and keep the SNP in power.

It's only a matter of time until someone lunges at her with a kitchen knife or some shit.

She needs to fuck right off 2bh

let's hope.

I hate that fucking tranny so much and I hate being scottish

Nobody wants another fucking referendum she's out of her head

>brung
for fuck

won't and can't happen, scotland is a burden and not even the EU want them, they don't meet the requirements either, they are in too much debt. They bring nothing of value to the the table (oil is british),Also only Westminster can issue another referendum

Scottish people do shit like that, Osama. For example, I say Jamp instead of Jumped. I'm fucking retarded, but aren't we all?

South of the border here but I'm curious what scots think of her. She seems very opportunistic and will break the union at any costs, then go and rejoin an even larger union the EU. Doesn't really make sense to me. Is the SNP really popular, do they dominate politics?

SNP is, unfortunately, as the EU referendum showed, the majority vote of the Scots, as it's a normie left-wing cuck party that wants to let all the dindus in to rape us

my scottish mates think she's an absolute boot but they still vote SNP.

Any EU member can reject membership rights. Spain would never support scotland joining because then Cadelonia would break away from them and join the EU.r

Correct, but she is campaigning for another referendum, and as you say, we are a burden, so Westminster would fucking gladly give us a 2nd referendum.

I hate language snobbery. Scots English is actually purer English than that frenchified southern English crap.

Yous for example, it's perfectly functional and fixes the lack of a plural you in English.

Why should one dialect become the "proper" one?

agreed, yous is pretty clever now that i think about it haha

>2nd referendum

Do Scots actually believe this is going to happen with May as PM?

All she has to do is repeat the 'The SNP were pushing for independence which would have resulted in Scotland leaving the EU' line and tell them to fuck off

Face it Scotland you are here forever, you would be fucked on your own anyway. No more oil

>why should one dialect become the proper one

Otherwise you have cucks in america trying to push aave as a legitimate dialect that shouldnt be beaten out of kids

How about Ireland and Scotland just form a comfy Celtic Union? Ditch UK and EU.

>Irish economic policy
>SNP delusion

Can see that going well

is May based?

>Implying it wouldn't be an absolute monarchy with the clan system restored

Fuck sturgeon she wants a fucking open boarder the wee cunt can fuck right off I'm voting bnp next time the fuckers I'm not having darkies and more pakis here

good champ

Yes, the silly ugly useless wee fat cow is, along with the majority of Scots.

A vote for Independence is not a vote for SNP, it's a vote for the future of this country.

There is absolutely no need to vote SNP back into office once we have achieved freedom for Scotland, SNP are only the stepping stone.

First of all guys, we can all agree that the scots have a huge problem in that they keep voting for SNP. But we should agree that we do not want Scotland to be independent even though it would be hilarious to watch the country collapse.

The SNP are running a massive campaign to try and gauge interest in a second independence referendum.

Pick a postcode in Scotland and fill it out appropriately, putting that you voted for independence and remain in the previous referendums and you've now changed your mind and plan to vote to stay in the Union.
Daily reminders
> 1,012,322 People living in Scotland voted to leave the EU
> 2,001,926 People living in Scotland voted to remain British

survey2016.scot/take_the_survey

Sup Forums hasn't seen this already?

yougov.co.uk/news/2016/09/01/davidson-now-more-popular-sturgeon-scotland/

Forgot pic

>trusting polls

As for the question of an Independent Scotland the entire idea is flawed. Not only is it flawed but the people who think it's a good idea are either naive, bandwagoners, traitors or hypocrits?
> That's kind of harsh user, how can you say that?
I'm glad you asked! Lets cover it one insult at a time
>Naive
The most iconic symbol of scottish independence is william wallace and the braveheart meme shouting "freedom" as he's gutted by the mean English.
William Wallace died in the early 1300s, 700 years ago, the cause of for which he died, Scottish Independence was actually achieved in the next 100 years and Scotland existed along side England reasonably happily until the 1600's when the two countries merged Crowns and then Parliaments.
There was no conquering and this all took place 300 years after wallace died and 400 years in our past!
The United Kingdom as we know it today began at that moment, even the Union Flag dates from this period and was created by James the 1st of England and Scotland after he was invited down from Scotland to become England's king and he blended the two flags together.
(continue?)

>The most iconic symbol of scottish independence is william wallace and the braveheart meme shouting "freedom" as he's gutted by the mean English.
Stopped reading there, the only ones who believe the Braveheart meme are the Americans

sure

I think she realises that Scotland is fucked like other parts of the UK. EU funding is needed by Scotland and without it, it will need more money from Westminster.

England is getting fed up of giving money to the other parts and with England being billions in debt (or is trillions? Need to look that up.), it can't afford to keep giving funding.

Something has to give and it will either be Northern Ireland or Scotland (or maybe the NHS getting privatised). Northern Ireland could save England 11 billion a year if gotten rid of.

>I'll never live in an independent England

knows so fucking little of Scottish history, missnames the fucking king.

James the 1st AND 6th, you fucktard

YouGov is actually one of the best for polls. They predicted the Brexit results perfectly, quite a bit in advance, while literally everyone else had it wrong. Think they may also have predicted our election result too, but I'm less sure on that one.

I doubt it'll ever happen. Hindsight has killed off any argument in favour of offshore oil.
>Let's go independent and get control of the oil
>The same oil that plummeted 5 minutes after we voted to stay in the UK
>In the same business that's building offshore windfarms to piss Trump off more than reap green energy
>In the same government with more seats going to Green who would rather drink the oil than drill it than the single seat in London could ever dream of

>9% budget deficit
Absolute madmen! Do they believe that they can keep free universities and prescriptions in a independent Scotland?

>or maybe the NHS getting privatised
That'll be incredibly useful. The NHS gets something like £96 Billion a year and it's still shit because the staff know they'll get paid no matter what, and there's no incentive for any hospitals to be cost effective. Our entire defence budget is something in the realms of £65 Billion.
The NHS doesnt even have to privatise honestly, just have reason to fucking manage money better. We can start by refusing treatment to foreigners, and 2nd gen immigrants.

>economy built entirely on a volatile commodity
>retarded as fuck socialist government
Cool, I'd love to see venezuale 2:electric boogaloo

>Bandwagoners
Anyone who thinks the Braveheart meme has nothing to do with how people in Scotland vote are just flat our wrong, it was by no mistake that the date for the Scottish Referendum was chosen coinciding with the Battle of Bannockburn 700 years ago, people who had grown up with the idle banter between Scots and English during the 90s when the film was released are in their 30's and 40's.
bandwagoning is exactly the reason the voting age was reduced from 18 to 16, the SNP knew exactly how schoolkids vote and how they think.
They have grown up around the sentiment and with National "Pride" in full swing during the time of the Independence referendum there was hope that it would drum up extra votes. And they were right.
Living in Scotland during the time of the referendum many people will be able to share with you stories of how ostracised "No thanks" voters were made to feel, indeed until the morning of the results it was widely expected that going by opinion polls and how the undecided voters were likely to vote that SNP would achieve it's goal.
To this day, British Scots who voted No are ridiculed with the "No true Scotsman" fallacy.

You people are fools, she doesn't like or want immigrants, its all an appeal to lefties, their end goal is independence, then the SNP will go full National socialist, Can't wait

>independent
The EU will bribe them.

>They have grown up around the sentiment and with National "Pride" in full swing during the time of the Independence referendum there was hope that it would drum up extra votes. And they were right.

youtube.com/watch?v=pmGjiokfQ2A

I want us to be brothers scotland doWe all know gods own country of Yorkshire has the purest form of English. Consider that whilst, 'Moff t' shops for some fish and chips love

She seems based so far but she might just be fucking with us. Though she seems like them stern headmistresses that don't fuck about and its hard to be like that without being based.

telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/28/nicola-sturgeon-heading-to-brussels-for-talks-with-european-parl/

metro.co.uk/2016/06/26/scotland-is-told-it-wont-be-able-to-stay-in-the-eu-after-brexit-5967168/

EU basically told Scotland that they have nothing to offer as an independent country, and they're not wrong. If I remember correctly, Scotland received the largest amount of money from the EU with the least paid back in. They have fuck all industry and business, a population of a few million and a debt of a few billion. They're not even worth taking in as a "fuck you" to the rest of Britain, that's how bad it is.

Didnt Spain and some other countried they would veto any attempt at us getting into the EU?

That should be pretty effective at blocking an independence move.
>tfw nobody wants us

You should exhume Wallace's grave so u can suck his rotten cock

This

The EU will do its best to act against british national interest , and if that means taking money from other eu countries to massively prop up the scottish economy it'll do it

That's if certain individual eu members don't fuck it over...like...us : d

We and the spanish have a custom of refusing to recognize european separatism .

See and

That would cause outrage if that happened. That alone would cause parts of the UK to start thinking of independence.

The SNP are a fucking joke mate!

I think Scots should have another vote if that's the will of the people. I even think they should leave the UK if that's how the vote turns out.

But they also have realize that their country will not be able to support itself in its current state. They have no strong industry or natural resources which will produce enough to keep them afloat with their current policies. Whisky and curling rocks aren't going to cut it.

And of course, attempting to gain back sovereignty from the UK just so they can turn right back over to Brussels is the most retarded idea imaginable.

>Traitors.
You're arguing semantics. James was King of the Union as James the 1st, while he was also King James the 6th of Scotland is irrelevant.
What matters is that the King of Scotland was asked and accepted to become the King of England and his blood line has remained unbroken through 700 years until our present day monarch Queen Elizabeth the II
The Queen is as much the Queen of Scotland as she is the Queen of any other nation she is head of state for.
Ontop of this we have 400 years of shared history as a single country. Scotland has bled for the UK, built for the UK, worked for the UK every step of the way. The history of the British Empire as much Scottish History as it is English, it's our history!
By tearing the union of these countries apart we are condemning everyone in England, Wales, Northern Ireland and the 15 overseas colonies ( a no meagre 250,000 British Citizens) to a live that is greatly diminished than they have today.
Scottish Independence voters seem to think that everyone living in Scotland is just Scottish and that couldn't be further from the truth. As a singular country for 400 years Great Britain the island has shared and integrated her peoples to point where ripping apart is akin to suicide and more so for the Scottish people than for the English!
But by far the most important reason against Scottish Independence is how hypocritical it is.
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I doubt people will want it, Sturgeons only argument for it was so we could rejoin the EU, but they've told us to fuck off because of what you said, we just dont have anything to offer

Its a false flag, don't fall for it. Stick with us, at least until democratic socialism is stomped out. Sturgeon is a nationalist, but in the most putrid way. She's along with the hardcore socialist left trying (and succeeded) to detatch national identity from ethnicity and culture. They're trying to bring about "the end of history" (a point where a nation becomes so saturated with new cultures and immigrants the old hierarchies, society and its normas and values are forgotten). If you don't stick with England, Sturgeon is going to completely erase you and your history. Whoever is in power during the end of a history, gets to shape the new world. Evidence of the democratic socialist conspiracy below.

fabians.org.uk/a-respectable-englishness/

This neatly reveals the insanity of the EU.

>Scotland has nothing to offer the EU so they won't be allowed
>Meanwhile we let former Yugoslav countries in so they can suck Germany and France dry

Fucking retards, the lot.

Why post a flag that's the wrong colour?

The English seem willing to tolerate you at least. That's got to count for something.

Hey, maybe you can talk to Ireland about forming a Gaelic Union or something.

So it's easy to invade again.

>That alone would cause parts of the UK to start thinking of independence.
Im not so sure. Scotland, probably. But UKIP was the 3rd most popular party by vote in the last election, and there is a lot of anti immigration sentiment these days

yougov.co.uk/news/2013/11/25/what-we-believe-about-immigration/

yougov.co.uk/news/2016/08/26/one-five-say-uk-should-not-admit-single-migrant-tu/

70% of Brits think immigration has been to high, more specifically 44% said it had been much too high, 57% think immigration has been bad for the economy. Overwhelmingly people support mostly just allowing skilled workers and useful people into the country. And this surprised even me, 20% believe there are certain countries we should accept no migrants from at all. I really think you underestimate quite how much people dislike immigrants in this country, I think the largest barrier to this is the media portraying anti immigration as racism, and politicians being too afraid to voice these opinions on behalf of the people they should be representing.

Hmm to be fair I was also thinking the way that guy was, that the EU would love another vulnerable small country to control and undermine the UK. But I also realise how fucking shit this place is and don't see how scotland could ever function on its own lol.

Spain (and other countries) said they'd veto be4 the uk decided to leave. They might however change their mind (including my own country which , as i pointed out , has a custom of refusing recognizing european countries) for the good of the eu...

It's actually more likely than not

What that means is that
1) scotland can't be part of the eu while part of britain
2) scotland will have to apply for eu membership , it won't be allowed immediately

On top of that doubt the eu won't have a "quick admission of scotland" if it leaves . It's more likely that scotland is used as a pawn in the sense of the eu trying to not let the whole of britain leave by threathening the kingdom's union , but if all fails it would probably let scotland in faster than any previous member

I leave this here just in case ..

A independent scotland would be one of the best european countries straight away. The faggotry that you have to be subjugated under the heel of london is holding scotland back.

Well it's different circumstances really. It makes sense to take mainland European countries, to expand the EU border, but Scotland is fuck all use if you can't have the rest of Britain to pay for this sinking ship

>They might however change their mind (including my own country which , as i pointed out , has a custom of refusing recognizing european countries) for the good of the eu...
Nah they won't, especially Spain. They're not going to risk emboldening Catalonia's independance shit in some failed attempt to annoy Britain.
It's kind of the problem with the entire EU concept, countries want to do what's in their best interest, not the EUs

>The faggotry that you have to be subjugated under the heel of london is holding scotland back.
lolwut

Norge just wants that sweet North Sea oil, Scotland.

Bankrupting yourself solely for the sake of expansion is how empires fall.

The final Scexit solution

>Become Independent
>Instantly need to pay huge taxes because most import routes are through England
>Don't get northsea Oil because the Shetlands can remain within the UK.
>Need to pay Debts to England anyway

pls no

How does it make sense to use Scotland "as a pawn" by slowing down their re-admittance to the EU? If you wanted to threaten the fucking UK, wouldn't it make sense to immediately offer Scotland EU membership so it's clear from the very beginning that you'll take them?

Scotland doesn't even meet the entry requirements to be a member, if it's independent. The EU won't take them, they're of no use, and honestly the UK is better off without them. They're a very small population, and cost us fuck tons of money. The only think they have to offer is gas we won't use, and some army regiments we could probably claim anyway because they pledge to the Queen who rules the United Kingdom, their home nation no longer being part of that country does not mean they didnt pledge to that country and it's monarch.

>Nah they won't, especially Spain. They're not going to risk emboldening Catalonia's independance shit in some failed attempt to annoy Britain.

They might. Saying they won't because i believe that doesn't make it true. And spain can alway suppress a catalan attempt at independence . With the US and the EU on their side who's going to do anything? fucking england?

>Not removing Ireland for good measure

Have you followed EU politics even slightly? They have a fantasy of a European, multi-cultural, socialist utopia, they are well beyond the touch of reality, they will drive the continent into the ground to keep their dream alive.

>How does it make sense to use Scotland "as a pawn" by slowing down their re-admittance to the EU? If you wanted to threaten the fucking UK, wouldn't it make sense to immediately offer Scotland EU membership so it's clear from the very beginning that you'll take them?


The brexit is not a done deal just yet. There's still people protesting for a 2nd referendum and the parliament stalling. By accepting scotland's proposal for eu membership , the eu is basically making sure that brexit will go through. So even if the eu does have plans to allow scotland to enter straight away , it surely won't reveal them till after the uk leaving is a done deal

>see pic related

Norway is the sort of country Scotland could have been; white, cohesive and with more money than we know how to spend

Instead Scotland has just welcomed our 1,000th refugee, we're split 50/50 between unionists and nationalists, and we've sent all our oil money down to London to be pissed away by crooked politicians and other nonces

Fucking shambles. I'm getting my degree and then moving away

The economy isn't build on an entire commodity you shithead

You Anglos are fucking delusional. Anything to make you feel better about your greater poverty

Fuck off brown little man

As for the rest of you cunts who are talking down your own country

Fucking off yourselves. Self-hating feminine cunts.

Fuck the lot of you

Well, yeah, I'm was just pointing out how retarded their reasoning is (or apparent lack of reasoning).

>Hypocrites.
SNP and Separatists do not want to be Independent.
This is so fucking huge, let that sink in. They do not want to be independent.
SNP have said many times they want to;
>Keep the British Currency and central bank
>Keep the British Borders
>Keep the British(Scottish remember!) Monarchy
>Keep the British fishing rights
Each of the above could be a topic on it's own but suffice to say for an Independent Country to allow another country to control it's borders and Economics defies belief.
Ontop of this SNP want to join the EU, giving away massive amounts of lawmaking powers to Brussels, remember that an Independent Scotland is practically third world and she would have ZERO of the special powers that the UK enjoys inside the EU.

>Islands of Scotland, fishing and oil waters
Scotland contains within it the islands of Orkney and Sheltand.
Until the year 1470 these islands belonged to Norway and after this point they were "technically" annexed by Scotland after a failure on Norway's part to pay a dowry on a bride for a royal wedding.
To this day there is a large part of Shetland that if given the choice would prefer to be a crown dependency of the United kingdom, not part of Scotland.
Indeed the old Adage in the isles of "All the Shetland ever got from Scotland was dear meal and greedy ministers." holds true, they feel as far from Edinburgh as they do from London and yet the SNP will refuse to let them gain their independence themselves and why would they when shetland commands a huge amount of the north sea oil and fishing grounds.

Fucking this. Lack of confidence is the pervasive in Scottish men. You lot need to fucking man up and start believing in yourself. Economic hardship for a couple decades (at the very f-ing most) for freedom and self-governance and pride.

Fucking pussies.

No true Scotsman would vote to be ruled by an ethnic foreigner in Londonistan.

It's fucking true and you know it. Bunch of pussies.

Scots ruined Scotland.

Be angry all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that you do not have the resources to cover your current expenditures if you separate from England. Something would have to give, and we all know how Europeans feel about cutting government programs.

Get fucked

The SNP are the most popular party in Scotland. The lefty jews/swj have infiltrated the SNP as they do with any party they see getting into power.

Govanhill may be full of Pakis but that is nothing compared to the mess the left and jews have done to England over that last 60 years.

>The brexit is not a done deal just yet.
It really is.
>There's still people protesting for a 2nd referendum
There's also people who protested the Tory government and NHS cuts, it does jack shit, people protest near constantly these days.
>and the parliament stalling
Nope, May told parliament to fuck off, they're not getting a vote on it.
>By accepting scotland's proposal for eu membership , the eu is basically making sure that brexit will go through
The EU wants the UK to leave, have you not been following? The EU appointed their own secretary to facilitate Brexit from their end, they've been pressuring us to leave for months because they want us to rush negotiations so we get bad deals so they can warn all other EU members thinking of leaving what will happen if they try. The EU almost instantly gave up hope on getting the UK to remain once the referendum was over
Besides, Scotland would have to become independent before it could join the EU, so offering Scotland membership at any point means nothing.

I would advise you, if you don't know what you're talking about, don't talk.

Scotland doesn't have an independent economy you stupid chucklefuck.

That's the entire point, Scotland would be a stillborn country.

>not part of Scotland.

And even less a part of multi race England you dim cunt

>By accepting scotland's proposal for eu membership , the eu is basically making sure that brexit will go through.


This is very true - doing that basically amounts to sedition and the sate can legally declare war.

>5 million people

>55 million

England is fucked mate, we can look after our own you lot are totally dependent on the rest of the world looking after you

>5 million people
>£10 billion debt
>we can look after our own

>The brexit is not a done deal just yet.
>It really is.
Are you fucking out yet? Oh what's that? No you're not

>There's still people protesting for a 2nd referendum
>There's also people who protested the Tory government and NHS cuts, it does jack shit, people protest near constantly these days.
Doesn't change that the brexit did not fucking happen yet

>and the parliament stalling
>Nope, May told parliament to fuck off, they're not getting a vote on it.
Until you leave , you're still in. I don't get how that's fucking hard for you to understand

>The EU wants the UK to leave, have you not been following? The EU appointed their own secretary to facilitate Brexit from their end, they've been pressuring us to leave for months because they want us to rush negotiations so we get bad deals so they can warn all other EU members thinking of leaving what will happen if they try. The EU almost instantly gave up hope on getting the UK to remain once the referendum was over

That still doesn't mean they don't have hope for a backtrack of the referendum. Until one thing or another happens , the whole situation is in limbo , which is worse than the uk actually leaving since decisions and plans cannot be properly made

>Besides, Scotland would have to become independent before it could join the EU, so offering Scotland membership at any point means nothing.

Except that's not true .Threats means something and they have their own value. As long as something hasn't happened it can be changed . Brexit happened in theory , but not in practice , ther's still parties involved in keeping britain in the eu . Whether or not they have any chances it doesn't change their existance.

By promising scotland acceptance in the eu , the eu is destroying those parties's chances (even if small) as many pro-eu brits will change their mind seeing the eu as an aggressor .

Once the brexit goes through , there's no need to hold back with scotland anymore ...

Understand that the only way an independent Scotland doesn't instantly collapse is by gutting all of its social programs and cutting out huge chunks of bureaucratic bullshit, which will cause riots since the majority of your country is sucking the government teat to live.

Don't get me wrong, I would be happy to see a Scotland who could accomplish this because they would come out the other side a much stronger nation and society, but the popular will necessary to make it work simply isn't there.

and this ..
youtube.com/watch?v=EAGfHjDnK60

>implying the eu won't just sponsor scotland by taking from the money given to other countries

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OHHHHHH SHITTTTTT!

twitter.com/DavidJFHalliday/status/771687745630724100

just to note the man was charged for this

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