Since everyone here is an arm chair critic.
Rewrite TFA and provide ideas for the next two movies into something good if not genius kino.
Condition: The films must still make billions of dollars excluding any toy or licensing sales.
Since everyone here is an arm chair critic.
Rewrite TFA and provide ideas for the next two movies into something good if not genius kino.
Condition: The films must still make billions of dollars excluding any toy or licensing sales.
tell that to Han's snapped neck
RLM had a better basic concept.
New Republic is comfy and getting decadent. In order to guarantee their safety they make some sorta big ass super weapon (It cant just be a death start v3 but maybe make it a giant capital ship 100 times bigger than a super star destroyer or something)
Leia opposes this on ethical grounds and retires.
The First Order are the plucky rebels and they manage to take over the super weapon for X reasons and demolishes the New Republic Fleet.
Leia is forced out of retirement and forms the Resistance with young and old members of the rebel alliance. Sends Han and Poe on a secret mission to get Luke.
Rest of the movie can happen naturally with little edits. The beginning part at least for me
-Gives a reasonable explanation how a gigantic super weapon can be funded and constructed (a galactic government rather than some rag tag imperial remnants)
-Gives a greater context to the peaceful but cold war political atmosphere in the galaxy
-Makes the First Order look much more competent and devoted to a cause
-The resistance actually has a much better reason for being put together out of necessity rather than in TFA being Leia’s private paramilitary death squad
-The super weapon while fundamentally filling the same role as the death star, can still say it is its own new thing rather than BIGGER BADDER DEATH STAR
-Vaguely ties in themes of the old status quo needing to adapt to changing times and new heroes blah blah
So, end of RotJ, Republic wins, Empire sucks, everyone is great. Fast forward 30 years or so, and the Republic is doing well. They've regained control over all the core galactic planets, and are making headway into pushing into the Outer Rim worlds. Peace, prosperity, etc. The First Order are still around, but much smaller, more like the SS sabotage squads that were meant to be left behind after WWII: entrenching their ways into lawless outer worlds, sapping Republic efforts and attempting to regain footholds where they're least likely to be stopped.
The Republic sends out specialized troops led by fledgling Jedi, who had been trained by Luke. Finn is one of these troops, and is sent to Jakku in order to pacify local resistance from a First Order led desert tribe. However, things go south when the First Order rebels in town seem to be able to use lightsabers, slaughtering the Republic Inquisitors. Finn is saved by Rey, and they return to Coruscant.
Luke is horrified by the discovery that the bodies of these First Order men were modified in some way, allowing them to artificially tap into The Force. A signal was also found to be tracking the lifesigns of the modified, which leads them to an extremely far off, uninhabited location in space. They need Han Solo's help to reach there, and before they go Leia privately admits her fear that whoever is doing this might be their son, Kylo, who disappeared nearly 10 years prior.
After presumably some filler adventure, the heroes reach this world, only to find it was a Jedi stronghold. Inside, Rey opens a security door using a DNA sample, which accepts her as a member of Kenobi family. There, they discover that Kylo appears to have gone mad in the Outer Rim, compiling huge evidence piles of the "Crimes of the Jedi and the Sith", as well as little "temples" to Darth Vader
>Darth Vader,
his grandfather (who he worships as being neither Jedi nor Sith, but both) re-discovering Axtranite: a strange alloy that can not only imbue people with force sensitivity, but also seems to be able to block it as well. Despite Ob-Wan attempting to keep the place secret, Kylo has mined huge amounts of it, in order to create his "Knights of Ren". However, the entire place seems empty.
Back on Coruscant, the Jedi Temple comes under assault. Thousands of these modified "Knights of Ren" storm the building, and although Luke is able to kill hundreds, he is eventually overwhelmed by an assault by Kylo, who has a creepy kind of reverence for him. Luke is captured, and Coruscant begins to fall to a siege by the Knights of Ren, made up of hundreds of different groups who have suffered under The Republic's vengeful cruelty. Leia manages to get off a distress call, calling Han, Rey, Finn and Chewie back to Coruscant.
The last shot is Kylo and a captive Luke, with Kylo giving this big speech about the crimes of the Jedi. However, he is not Sith: he simply wants an end to the supremacy and rarity of force users. He is shown to be rebuilding what seems to be a Death Star out of scrap, but promises it to be "much more".
>No more large scale empire versus rebels.
>Focused on small groups of people
>Main plot is the villain doing anything needed to obtain the secrets of immortality and creating life like Darth Plagueis did
The rest of the trilogy would be concerned with defeating Kylo, who plans to create a "Mass Force Dampener", which would essentially eliminate Force Sensitives en masse, and stop them showing up again. Luke would surprisingly agree, having been concerned with all the fucked up shit the Jedi did for a while, and would be the secondary antagonist for the obligatory "massive battle" at the end of the second film, in which Coruscant is liberated.
The third film would be concerned with stopping Snoke in a desperate, last ditch attempt to defeat his modified army, which he was manipulating Kylo into building for him. Snoke would be a foreshadowed background force throughout the series, with many veiled references being made to an "ancient evil" living in the planet's core.
tl;dr Kylo wants to kill all force users because he believes Empire and Republic are just lies to distract from the bigger fight, which he thinks is between those who have the force, and those who don't.
This idea of wanting to exterminate all the Jedi has already happenned in the prequels and it's boring. At least there should be a real reason to begin with. Nobody decides to exterminate people if they aren't posing him serious problems. That's where the story should start.
We could come up with better scripts than the OT and give them to KK she wouldn't care, she wants to do it her way, the bad way. The only thing she asked to TFA script writer was a "female Jedi story". What counts to her is her vavavava.
But that's the thing, it's not all the jedi, it's every force user in the galaxy. Kylo thinks his plan is bigger than factionalism, he'd take the Sith with him too in order to "reset" everything and stop the cycle of force-based violence.
Probably just some yuzan vong / secret empire from the unknown regions schlock mixed with the finding luke plot.
Like you can produce a bottom of the barrel cliche fest without it LITERALLY being a retread of New Hope / ESB. Seriously, from Death star to bigger deathstar and now executor to bigger executor, it's just not worth it and honestly i've never felt better not seeing a film before (TFA).
Don't forget the bigger AT-ATs, the new Hoth, and the Cloud City, it's a casino now...because they wanted to do something different...
Film opens on Han and Chewie in the the Millennium Falcon
The ship is now outfitted with the NAboo type chrome stuff and looks alot more refined and elegant. Han comments on this and says he wishes Leia had aged that well. She then pops in the cockpit and gives some banter back. Their relationship is still snarky but loving. There are then a few quick lines that establish: the galaxy is at peace, they are out on a joyful mission to a resort planet, they still have a retainer of guards due to light Imperial remnants.
Leia begins to say "I just wish Luke..." when Poe opens the cockpit door mentions that there are fighters approaching, Han looks at the terminal gives a shocked response and makes an announcement over the loud speaker for everyone to get into battle positions.
This starts a tracking shot of Poe walking through the falcon as everyone hectically gets ready.
he walks by: Finn telling his GF not to be scared then getting into a gunning position and C3po and R2 looking frazzled. Poe then drops down into his Xwing that was docked on the hull of the falcon. As soon as he takes off the group is over taken by a huge swarm of CIS fighters. After a showy fight, both crafts are downed on a mysterious jungle planet.
Poe fights through the jungle alone with his blaster and lightsaber, later its revealed that Luke trained him before disappearing. He meets Rey in the jungle, they talk and fight and give exposition that covers the time skip.
The team regroups, checks damages, survivors and makes a plan to get off the planet. They find the planet is a fascist state patrolled by CIS tech, and do stealth missions to get supplies to repair the ship and leave. Rey acts as a succubi to Finn and actively tries to poison his relationship with the Asian girl.
They find out the locals are enslaved and building a superweapon in the planet's core and argue about taking it out now or later with back up.
Along the way Kylo shows up, the long thought dead son of Han and Leia and rival Padawan of Poe. He kills Han just like in TFA. Poe is outraged as Han was his father figure or some shit and they have a cool fight but both live to fight again. Later they have a dog fight while Poe tries to blow the super laser with photon torpedoes. Luke shows up in his own Xwing with perfect timing and says "Yahoo you are all clear kid lets bow this thing and go home" and the audience begins weeping.
The big bad is Tarkin with a Grievous type body.
Eventually the team blows up the super weapon and fly off into space. The final scene is Rey doing something that leads the audience into thinking she is a villain. I don't know what that would be.
don't quit your day job
ok
Admiral Thrawn a sith drug lord and gold plated chicken walkers
Pay me
Make it about old Luke training new Jedi on Yavin 4 but the Jedi younglings are abducted by First Order to brainwash them into supersoldiers and Luke and his estranged son must reunite to rescue them
My idea would be something along the lines of all of the imperial warlords that got scattered by the collapse of the Empire get unified, preferably by an existing character, and the new republic isnt dealing with some fine tuned military machine as much as they are an Atilla the Hun or Genghis Khan horde type of ordeal
10/10
would need work to hit all the bases of a star wars movie but ok
low quality bait
Something completely different would probably be best but I had a few ideas for tweaking TFA to make it more sense. It's not totally fleshed out but whatever:
-Han Solo is somehow based on Jakku. Make Jakku somehow a focal point of old Rebel activities for some reason like location, tie it into the big battle that left all the wreckage. Make this the reason Von Sydow is there. That means only Rey's involvement was coincidental.
-They don't escape the system right away. They drift in space outside the system after a short emergency jump, either because it's damaged or even better because Rey doesn't know how to use a hyperdrive. Han finds them because he's on the same planet and he put a beacon on the Falcon or was actively scanning for it (he couldn't find it before because it was completely powered down because Simon Pegg was hiding it).
The rest is okay I guess, there's tweaks to how certain things were done but that's probably more directing than writing. Maybe make Lupita's bar in Republic space which is why it's safer to go there than HQ, and actually have a reason R2 wakes up.
Ehhh, naw Star Wars really does need an expanded kind of view on things. Sure characters are important, but it needs to be for the purposes of pushing the greater struggle forward.
Unfortunately Thrawn already exists in the Rebels cartoon
But Shadow of the Empire would have made an easy to adapt trilogy.
Backstory
Galaxy is split between Republic and Imperial Remanent, Coruscant is split (Berlin wall style)
Republic is as flawed as the old one. Democracy is proving not to be very efficient during such hard times. Some factions push for the reduction of the military and others want to build a superweapon to ensure peace (Deathstar Style)
Old Heroes are antagonized and deemed not needed anymore in those seemingly peacefull times.
Both sides wage proxy war
Leia leads the Resitance, Lando is their man in the senate (due to his talents he manages to stay friendly with all sub factions)
Luke leads the new jedi order
This part is kept a mystery and turns into a big reveal later
Emperror is dead but his pursuit of immortality had some success, he managed to clone Luke and posses his body (but his possesion is very unstable). He rallied part of his fleet including the Eclipse in the Unknown Regions. Emperror poisons the minds of Lukes students leading some of them including Hans and Leia's son to destroy it. During that time Luke is absent looking for the source of the dark side he senses in the uknown region. Luke gets captured and due to failure of his academy his name is tarnished.
>Luuuke clone
Please no
The story is right there, just do Hand of Thrawn mixed with some Rogue Squadron shit. You don't even need to really rework that many characters. Make Rey Han's daughter, and it's the Darth Caedus storyline with Jacen Solo turning into a Sith Lord.
So pretty much the movie takes place however long after, but the fledgling New Republic is battling the remnants of the Empire. Both are basically fighting over worlds, and what's left of the Empire is being led by some Grand Moff. This dude isn't conflicted with the Sith shit so his only focus is on the Empire, and he's fucking them up.
So instead of having the Corran Horn storyline in Rogue Squadron, have Rey Solo join Rogue Squadron and she's like a really good pilot. No one knows how she's fucking this great, the only two people that fly as good are Wedge Antilles and her Uncle Luke Skywalker. Meanwhile her older brother Kylo goes to train to be a Jedi with Luke, but he has a major attitude problem. So the movie is pretty much his training at the Temple, and Rey Solo fighting the new leader of the Empire with massive space battles. End of the movie Kylo for some reason turns against the Jedi and slaughters the other trainees and injures Luke.