MUH NO KILL RULE

What superheroes genuinely "don't kill" as a defining character trait, Sup Forums?

"All of them" is as much as an answer as "none of them". Don't be a smartarse. The best examples have specific reasons.

Off the top of my head:
>Superman: living embodiment of Always A Way
>Batman: trauma-induced thanatophobia
>Spider-Man: self-gimping guilt-ridden fuck-up
>Silver Surfer: 'Actus flashbacks
>pre-Johns Wonder Woman: Man's Way a shit
>post-Starlin Mar-Vell: I AM (space) JESUS
Pic unrelated, Reed's retarded.

at some point during the 70's children-friendly focus on comics (where kills shouldnt be shown on-panel, even if they did happen or were implied), the whole western idea of the superhero began to move towards ditching the myth of redemptive murder

this means that idea of killing, even if the bad guy wholly deserved it, was rationalized as being a non-constructive method to solve society's problems

the only true way for a superhero to defeat his enemies became the social rehabilitation of the bad guys (or their permanence in facilities for them to repay their debt to society)

Thunderbolts and suicide squad comes from this concept

antiheros appear in the mid 70s as being the ones who still embrace the redemption of murder while the mainstream had been moving away from it

>>Superman: living embodiment of Always A Way
Superman doesn't always have a code against killing and he's a much more interesting character when it's like that.

Also doesn't something really bad happen if Galactus dies?

Daredevil
Green Lanterns until Sinestro Corp War
Most of the Flashes. Not Barry.
non-Wolverine X-Men.

if it was anything it was the comics code coming about. the 70s was when comics starting to break out of it

Spider-Man makes sense usually. The thing is with him is that he has learned to win without murder, because someone with his powers unchecked is defying the very rule he lives by. If a villain kills themselves in a way of their own doing, he doesn't sob or brood, but instead accepts that they did it to themselves. However, if he could've prevented their death, then he will, because Peter honestly believes it isn't up to him to be judge, jury, and executioner. He can help stop crime, but he isn't above the law beyond vigilantism that can be worked around usually. We've seen his enemies locked away, put on parol, and even die by their own faults, so it balances out.

Batman doesn't work the same way, because he villains are different. Their focus is far more on murder and the corruption of a system letting them out like a revolving door. The Joker literally kills dozens to hundreds of people every time he walks outside, and there is no consequence to it. It happens, then repeats in a week. That situation makes Batman's rule not make sense, especially when he puts the lives of these monsters ahead of far less evil people.

>Superman: living embodiment of Always A Way
Off the top of my head he murdered Zod in Byrne's MOS comic, and the giant sun alien in ASS. He has never been the living embodiment of ALWAYS A WAY, thats just what casuals think. Also in his original appearances he had no problem man-slaughtering criminals and politicians. He can be the embodiment of never giving up maybe,


>Batman: trauma-induced thanatophobia
He just tries to avoid killing when he can. Again, original appearances had him gunning down people left and right. Even post Crisis he killed KGBeast, and in every movie adaptation except for Adam West he kills people. Also, in the comics, there are plenty of mentions and discussions of him dealing with the fact that he man-slaughters people.


>Spider-Man: self-gimping guilt-ridden fuck-up
Literally killed Gwen you fucking pleb.


>Silver Surfer: 'Actus flashbacks
You honestly believe he never kills?

Gwen's death was unintentional, though.

If galactus dies the universe gets fucked by abraxas or doomed to entrophy, saving him is perfectly reasonable.

>and the giant sun alien in ASS.

No he didn't.

real Avengers don't kill
ever

I thought that, if Galactus died, the universe would end or some shit.

>Literally killed Gwen you fucking pleb.

It would.

Turns out he's keeping an even more dangerous entity, Abraxas, from the universe.

Batman has shown willingness to kill multiple times, problem is that then other people stop him and "bring him to his senses".

Is this bait or something?

Literally ask any random man on the street to name a character with a no-killing code, the vast majority of people who can name one will say Batman. It's a defining trait of the character to the point of being an obsession.

And yes you can find examples from the late 30's to the early fourties on the contrary, but the character wasn't yet fully developed back then.

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They chose a shitty fucking name then. :^)
To be suspected from such a shitty fucking founding team I guess.

It is just a redditor, probably also Snyderfag, by the way that he argues.

That was made up some 20 years later.
Cosmic balance plays NO FUCKING PART is Reed's logic. He doesn't even bring up the billions of future entrees he's condemning to death with his decision.

uh huh

Bump

The problem is that the nature of comic books means that social rehabilitation and permanent incarceration is impossible.

On the other hand, death is mostly as meaningless as well, and it's only novelty that makes people think otherwise.