I have reason to believe that there will be mass voter fraud conducted in the Berlin elections on the 17th of this month.
The reasons being so is that I am not even a German citizen and I have been sent a voting ballot. I'm an American studying abroad in Germany and am not an EU-citizen but was still mailed a ballot. Berlin has an abnormally high amount of foreign residents, especially Turkish, liberal westerners, and other non-European immigrants so if I, a non-German citizen, have been sent a ballot what's preventing all of the other foreigners being sent a ballot?
Another reason is that my roommate's mother has been sent a voting ballot as well even though she has been dead for over two years now. In Germany you're allowed to vote for other people if you bring their ballot in for them, or if you vote by mail.
What do you guys think about this? Something here doesn't seem right.
Why do you think she imported new friends? Kek, I thought you already figured out the game...sad!
Ayden Wright
It's just a letter with all of your information, location of the polling booth, and instructions on how to vote.
Charles Jones
But OP, why shouldn't anyone currently shopping at the German mall be allowed to vote? Are you trying to say that nations are more than just arbitrary economic zones?
Angel Russell
You and your room mate got them? Has this been confirmed anywhere?
Ian Phillips
You have to show your ID at the poll site. However, if you demand postal ballot this isn't necessairily required.
Jaxon Howard
My room mate is German, I am not. He received a ballot for himself and his mother even though she is long dead. I received a ballot for myself as well.
Wyatt Richardson
True. Countries are just lines on a map after all. And since an election always has effects past the countrys borders, you really should be able to vote in elections from anywhere in the world. Nam would'n've happened that way.
Leo Anderson
Poor bait, please try again.
Colton Bell
I have dual Citizenship as well user, it´s ok.
Kayden Bennett
actual voting ballots are send in big ass envelops pic related what you got here is a informational letter about the upcoming vote still funny you and the ghost of your roommates mom got one not surprising through, just shows how retarded our government administration is
Ayden Bell
I know this is bait but, >countries are just lines on a map :^)
Brayden Cook
My room mate told me that all I have to do to vote is show up at the voting location with the Wahlbenachrichtigung and a photo ID. I never requested a mail ballot and what's going to stop me from voting if I try to vote on the 17th?
Matthew Ross
postal vote is something you have to request at you administrative district office will you can try to vote, and i would encourage you to do so as long as you vote AfD, you want get anywhere with that informal letter and you photo id they have staff on side at the voting location, they will check your german id, or lack thereof, and tell you to gtfo
Eli Williams
Can I use a Studentenausweis or a Gesundheitskarte to vote? They're both German issued and photo ID.
Caleb Robinson
Can you try and film it somehow if you decide to try?
Jacob Morris
Wait, so if I print a ballot and send it, my vote will be taken into account?
Aiden Clark
Exact same thing happened in UK.
Leo Allen
needs to be something proofing your Staatsangehörigkeit (citizenship)
Dylan Walker
Nope.
Its got to be a ID or Reisepass.
Jayden Kelly
Looks like I'm requesting a mail ballot then.
Dominic Thomas
which you can't request without proving your a citizen either.
Ryan Cooper
proof of voter fraud, all the minions of maddow will say (((no big deal goy))) because trumps Hitler. when the fuck are we gonna rise up? after the guns are gone?
Brody Ortiz
Germans need to get their shit together and get people who abstain from voting to vote again, there're millions of Turks in Germany and if this fraud thing is real, they can potentially outnumber the German voters for some parties.
Jack Ross
Why the fuck do American liberals throw such a fit and get butthurt over voter ID laws in the US then...?
They always say shit like >hurr we need to be more like eurabia! socialism and progress!
Levi Nguyen
Wow look everyone, an American too retarded to understand a letter or how voting in Germany works. Yet he believes
>believes
voting fraud is afoot. Ooh, scary. You moron.
Liam Myers
just go vote for the hell of it
feel like a proud german
Charles Rogers
You mean Germany has voter ID laws, but in the U.S. We can't because it's racist?
Jace Carter
Because they're stupid.
Also please understand that Liberal means something different in Europe than it does in the US.
Ian Davis
How exactly?
Carson Peterson
how dark are you? serious question
Owen Parker
That's not a ballot then, dumbass. If you try to vote, you'll be turned away.
Wyatt Turner
What exactly are the voter ID laws and what do they entail?
Jace Morales
>what's going to stop me from voting if I try to vote on the 17th? The fact that you don't have an ID i guess
Carson Reed
ID isnt the same in EU as it is in USA, its much more common, easy and cheaper to get a ID card here so pretty much 100% of all adults have them so it isnt a thing that close ppl out of the voting as it would be in USA.
Bentley Lee
no see a voting ballot is considered a legal document by german law so tinkering around with this in anyway including faking it will get you anything from a fine to some time in prison
god speed user try to act and speak as german as possible will visiting the district office the employees there usually have a branch up their asses and never smile
Bentley Foster
Oh I am. I live in Turk central so I'll probably be the only white voter to show up and they most likely won't even question me about it.
Josiah Martin
if you're dark skinned, speak shitty german to the votester telling them you're a refugee and see if they let you vote.
Christopher Gomez
Voter ID in germany. Go home yank you are drunk.
Jason Sanchez
Wew lads thats pretty racist smdh
Asher Parker
It is against the law to don't have an id card in germany.
Samuel Hughes
>"Bring this letter in on election day to vote. This is your ticket."
Eli Jenkins
what are you saying?
Blake Cruz
You need ID too which you don't have.
Jason Fisher
Yeah also make sure to make a video of how you're told by annoyed 70 year old Wahlhelfer whose Sunday's ruined to get the fuck out. Make sure to catch their laughter when you explain you're not German.
Jack Long
you need to show a photo ID in order to vote like a State ID card or a drivers license or a US passport
we have voter ID laws in like 9 states but liberals are fighting hard to stop them from being made in the other states, especially swing states that are important to the election (like North Carolina)
Carson Hall
>is that I am not even a German citizen and I have been sent a voting ballot. Go ahead and vote. The world is coming to an end anyway.
Landon Howard
That he's a moron.
Henry Nguyen
If you can prove economic hardship in most American states you can get a free government issued ID.
99.9999% of used ID in the US is a driver's license. Depending on the state you can get one for less than $50, sometimes as cheap as $5 if you can prove economic hardship.
For an ID, not a driver's license, all you need to do is show up to the county offices, bring two proofs of citizenship (birth certificate, SSN, school records, etc), fill out your weight and height info, take a picture, and now you have a government issued ID card.
The whole liberal meme about poor people not being able to afford ID is complete bullshit.
Jason Anderson
>cheaper i've only checked a couple states in CA it's $30 for whites and $8 for poor folks in NY its $14 in IN it's $12 then i got bored of checking i remember a state id used to be free in indiana, guess this new "secure id" card garbage might be jacking up the rate. That and the bmv has been outsourced to a private company here
Dominic Davis
vote afd or get of this board boy
Cooper Garcia
Why do you get butthurt so easy? Don't you have somewhere else to shill and waste your defending fighting internet nazis?
All I'm saying is that dead people and foreigners are getting Wahlbenachrichtigungen and tickets and that voter fraud could be afoot.
>in CA it's $30 for whites and $8 for poor folks are you implying that non-whites are poor? i just fucking hate these racists on this board so much
Luke Watson
You don't have any by default?
Cooper Jenkins
Why would they want to fraud Berlin voting results? Its the most hipster and liberal city in the country, even despite half being ossie.
Its like expecting voter fraud against Trump in California - they`ll all vote against AFD anyway, especially turks which are like 50% of Berlin.
Jose Edwards
>voter fraud could be afoot
Xavier Wood
>especially turks
You don't really seem to know what the fuck you're talking about. Voter turnout is awfully low among Immigrants - like even lower than among Germans.
Jaxson Gutierrez
>dead people and foreigners get voting tickets >totally normal and nothing wrong going on
Nathan Jones
>Why would they want to fraud Berlin voting results? >Its the most hipster and liberal city in the country maybe that's why it's so high?
Robert Martinez
Residents can participate in non national elections. Since you are registered as a person in Berlin, you can vote in a regional election.
Only citizens for national elections.
Sebastian Foster
This
Joseph Lewis
But you said yourself that the letter you received contained information on how and where to vote, doesn't mean you can actually vote as a dead person or as someone with no id
Caleb Butler
no but its not hard to get
you can go to the driver's registry or another state office, or some states have mobile ID vans that stop in cities and towns.
Brandon Myers
>All I'm saying is
You didn't receice a ballot, you aren't eligible to vote, you will be checked against their list andtold to take your spaghetti spill site with you and fuck off. Also, instead of finding it odd that the dead granny got one their dumbass relatives should drop by the townhall some time and tell them she's dead. Unless of course they're scamming the state for her pension.
Nathan Miller
This ass rage is unbelievable
Christopher James
None I know of, some municipal stuff only for EU citizens.
Joseph Watson
You're just too fucking dumb to understand thecworld around you. Instead of trying to fix your incompetence, you spout bullshit about my country. You should get the fuck out and free that university spot for someone less retarded.
Ian Price
B-but needing ID to vote is racist.
Anthony Taylor
>he's still going at it
Anthony Butler
You are seriously retarded
Dominic Allen
In germany it is against the law to don't have an ID card. So this discussion we simply don't have that.
Jace Russell
Is AFD the lolbertarian party of Germany?
Dylan Carter
That's FDP
James Reyes
thats not a ballot, thats a wahlbenachrichtigung. they tell you were to go to vote and when. if you have no passport you will not be able to vote.
Brayden Collins
I'll draw a dick in the Atlantic and it will be my new country
Everyone is welcome
Chase Miller
Send OP a citizenship card, I'm sure he'll accept it as legal. I'm sure he'll fit right in culturally.