Why does women and nu-males say that nice guys that can't get laid aren't really nice guys? Don't they realize that there are ugly and poor nice guys who can't get laid because roasties just don't like them and don't have anything to do with them being fake.
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You must be young. Take my fucking advice right now - don't bother with this "nice guy" stuff. It doesn't work, and western society has made up it's mind about this whole topic. It doesn't favor you at all. Save yourself the misery and suffering.
When I was younger, the whole "women don't like nice guys" thing was accepted as fact. Then, around 2013, feminists and sluts changed it so women can be justified in their disdain for nice guys. Just skip the whole topic completely, focus your energy on other things.
>Nice guy = an attractive man who is nice trying to fuck a bitch
>Once hes fucked her, he leaves and is no longer a "nice guy" in her eyes
"WHY CANT I FIND A NICE GUY
Essentially women want an attractive dominant alpha male to be "beta", without understanding the deep paradoxical nature of female attraction.
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I am actually not a nice guy. What I am trying to say is that there are genuine nice guys that don't get any pussy but since women are perfect according to western society and even posters from here, they most be assholes and not nice guys that lacks other things that women like.
Of course Sup Forums worships women. I already knew that. That's just the way western culture works. I don't agree with it, but people insist on reality being this way.
Women like "cool", good looking guys. Fit, mostly extroverted, but if he is introverted, he can get away with it if he's good looking. It's that simple. Women like good physical features and socially talented guys. The hysteria about nice guys is just western society looking for more ways to alienate beta and omega males. When I was younger, everyone fucking knew that women don't like nice guys. And women got shit for it. But times have changed.
because women are stupid and nu-males are basically just women
Women are spoiled nowadays. They want endless attention, entertainment, sexual satisfaction and the ability to be a brat whenever they want. They want hot guys with a lot of money so they can be the envy of their peers and they want to be free from any worries whatsoever.
They want to simultaneous be a celebrity and a house cat and then whenever they want feel like they are in charge with their opinions and work a job for a few years just to show how capable they are and then stay at home and gain weight and become a horrible bitch.
Stop whining.
If you want women then be desirable to women.
Be funny, attractive, fit, healthy, successful. Don't have to be all but must be some.
Must bait to catch a fish my friend.
Because they want to destroy men's spirit.
They destroy Chad by offering him attention and sex and taking our best and brightest and turning him into a thing purely focused on obtaining sex and instant gratification.
They destroy the normie by convincing him to try becoming Chad.
They destroy the weaker, poorer, and uglier men by shaming them and driving them into complete social isolation and then blaming them for the condition. The only advice they offer is: "become Chad" when they know this is impossible.
It's all part of destroying society. They do the same thing to women, just with subtly different tactics.
They need society destroyed so they can replace it.
when you call someone nice it's probably because you can't find anything positive about him but he didn't annoy you enough to not call him nice
how is this politics? kys fedora tipper
Hello roastie.
I'm not whining, retard. I'm replying to the other guy.
The whole concept is flawed, when you have ever, ever thought yeah that girl is hideous and has no redeeming attractive qualities but at least she is nice? People all want someone who they might actually want to fuck and enjoy being around, being nice is just a standard quality of human existence. Women are not sex vending machines which you pump kindness coins into to get sex out.
well then i don't feel bad when women get abused then
enjoy your beatings or your pregnancies ladies. I hope his six pack stomach soothe's your child's cries while he never comes back or keeps coming back to beat your ass
It's just another way for women to rationalize their poor judgment and retarded behavior. It's one step up from a child's attempt to explain why all the cookies are missing. Intelligent adults can see through both explanations easily, but the tendency online and in the media to pedestalize women and make excuses (all in the name of Equalityâ„¢) for every stupid, shitty thing they do skews the perceptions of those most susceptible to ideological conditioning. Women have always loathed and despised beta males, but at least in the past the prevailing Western social order supplied other incentives for beta (i.e. productive and peaceful) behavior and disincentives for the opposite. In the present era, all but the most obstinate dullards have responded to the existing system of incentives by abdicating their own traditional roles and either dropping out of the game altogether or accepting the truth of female nature and giving women what they think they want - good and hard.
>Women are not sex vending machines which you pump kindness coins into to get sex out.
well not if youre ugly sure
I am not saying women should like guys just from being nice, I am saying there is this mlyth that you aren't really nice if you can't get a woman.
For just this once I actually kind of agree with what a lot of women say.
If you think your being nice somehow entitles you to her cunt, you're not really a nice guy.
Some women do, but the whole point is you can't attract a woman just by being nice.
But I see feminists say that if you can't get laid you aren't really nice. Do you believe that is the case, idiot?
Plenty of crushers, I only like the one who was nice. I do not need a girl flexing my arteries.
Feminists say all sorts of stupid shit.
The common misconception of "Nice" guys is that they think of themselves as supreme gentlemen when all they do is bend over and let the women walk all over them. BETA AS FUCK. Women likes a man that makes his own decision and lead the women as opposed to acting like a pet for her.
In high school, there was this QT that was pretty popular, she has around 5 guys that follows her around everywhere that wants her but too beta to ask her out. During Valenstein's day I just made her a box of chocolate and asked her out after school. We did break it 6 month after but hell did it feel good to cuck those guys.
cause they are programmed to get wet at the big alpha dog of the tribe
men moved on and created civilization. Women havent. They are the same as they were 100,000 years ago. We just taught them to speak and do chores like a work animal.
Theres a reason why 99% of important jobs in the world are done by men and its not patriarchy
i remember an infograph that was posted once that cited job statitistics that read that if all the women in the world quit their jobs simultaneously there would be very minor disruptions to society if any. But if men did the same by the end of the year the world would look like the apocalypse had ripped through.
No food, famine, disease would be rampant
its weird when it comes to shit like this. From my personal experience, not showing any attention to a women+ actively being vulgar towards them actually gets them to like you more then just being boring and nice.
When I worked at bestbuy, I actively did my part to try to be the biggest piece of shit imaginable towards the women. I've never talked to them, I never helped them, Never greeted them and whenever they tried to actively talk to me about non work, I would bluntly tell them to fuck off/kill themselves without any subtlety. Now keep this in mind that I'm an ugly, overweight fuck. but they somehow respected me more then the times my stupid ass tried being nice+polite. I even got a girl in her 20s with similar hobbies to talk to and shit which was fun.
I did learn that if you are an ugly fuck, and tell a girl that tries to hug you to get lost, they go in full shock and awe.
That is why I think it's an abomination how modern western society treats men. Of course, men let themselves be treated this way, but still. We fucking built the world, and we maintain it. I don't blame women for being cunts, since they live in a culture that lets them be cunts and rewards them for it. But men have an out-group preference, and we're inherently rough. Now combine that with modern western culture, and it totally favors women and goes against men. But it's not the fault of women.
Women have become used to controlling men through sex and social shaming. When you reject both, they lose all power and they have to deal with you as a person.
Most of them have never learned to be people. They never had to be people. They just had to sit there and look pretty.
So they try to regain your attention and respect by calming down, being nicer, and showing respect. They eat it up because even their fathers never showed them strength, and all women instinctively want strength.
They are programmed to look for certai nques, the problem is allot of women's biology and instincts are out of date and they simply mistake thugs for alphas and then pay the price.
Same way that men look for certain traits and aspects but in doing so do not realize their mentality is out of date.
Both sexes are fucked in the head, but since the females are the privileged class then can get away with their bad choices and males do not. Wealth transfer only works one way.
its exactly, EXACTLY how homos and trans lust after straight cock most of all
How fucking retarded can you get?
there are plenty of conservative women I've known who were a mix of old or unattractive that I would be strictly polite to and never shit talk
>Women are not sex vending machines which you pump kindness coins into to get sex out.
the super cynical view feminists have of guys who are nice to them and don't try to play sorcerous mind games on them is going to be part of their undoing, along with guys becoming trans-freaks and homos, guys settling for porn, VR waifus and sex bots, or simple asexuality
t. guy who plays mind games on his gf 24/7
I can relate to this, ever since i decided to be more blunt (sometimes to the point of being rude) and not giving a shit i get attention i never did when i was a polite well behaved goy.
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and specifically I think the reason they jones for straight cock despite it being a logical contradiction is that they want a guy who has them as their sole exception so they won't fuck 10 guys behind their back every weekend
Betas create society. Society controls women. Society says you need to be polite and do your part to get a woman.
Sexual revolution happens. Women immediately attempt to turn all of society into a tribalistic fight between men to see who is the most "alpha" one.
there is no such thing as nice guys, or bad boy alpha males.
you are forced into one of those skill trees because of how you look.
if you look like a weak beta, people will always look at you like a weak beta no matter how alpha you behave.
mindset is bullshit
them tits though
Dude....
Could you be more of a meme?
if you woke up as brad pitt, would you still browse Sup Forums,masturbate to anime and eat doritos?
You can look pretty and still be dominating and get girls to respect and fuck you.
You can look scarred and muscular and be regarded as beta. The two strongest guys I know are the most soft spoken, shy, crippled by feelings of everyone judging them and extremely obedient and deferent towards women.
Women are crazy, accept that and move on.
Can confirm that genuinely no amount of sex lowers my interest in shitposting and whacking off.
I relish the rare chances I have to jerk off in front of the computer to erotica almost as much as I do sex.
I don't eat Doritos or watch anime.
I wouldn't change my life just because I look more attractive. What is this idea that all men who reject Leftist degeneracy must be troglodytes. I'm a solid 7/10 at least, dawg.
Everyone read this and laugh, pure unfiltered despair from the most lefty fucking mangina you can imagine.
For the record, r/srs is a reddit sub that has mod backing and routinely brigades and pushes their radfem garbage, and unfortunately the majority of them are actually thirsty male feminists.
In modern English, there is a difference between a kind man and a nice guy. Its good if a man is kind, but if I man is nice, he's a beta, and usually a pushover. They're different words with different connotations.
I love the logic an thought process of most people.
I want a beautiful attractive women who cares what she looks like. How do i attract this? Should i become attractive to her? Oh fuck getting in shape ill just be nice. Ill be the nicest person i can possibly be. And if she doesnt fuck me then shes craZy or retarded or just a bitch.
Do you really want it to be a law that if someone is nice to you that you habe to fuck them?
Don't you have some goyim to make miserable?
anyone have a link to the full article or at least the screen shot that had responses?
I seem to recall someone posting hatred for him claiming that he really does seem to think that he's entitled to sex for women.
you are forced to play a role depending on how you look.
if you are good looking people are gonna auto-respect you and be mindful when you pass along.
is this so hard to comprehend? look at pretty woman. this also applies to men
Why does this girl look unhappy and look like she's thinking of black cock even though she got proposed to?
>"logic of most people"
>the being nice means you want to fuck a girl meme
>implying most people are nice guys
Weird
Why would I laugh at my brother who has been destroyed?
I weep for him. I weep for what could have been. I am filled with an almost uncontrollable rage at how they've reduced him.
I would do anything to find these men, and lift them from that darkness. And it almost destroys me to think that they've been so completely ruined that they don't even want to be saved.
I hate this world so goddamn much.
Image here
t. guys who has no girlfriend and lie over the internets
>Essentially women want an attractive dominant alpha male to be "beta"
Oh man, fucking LMAO. If that ''alpha'' male turns out to be BETA, all of a sudden he is't so attractive anymore. Women want a BETA to secure their existance and deal with their feelings, NOT for sex. That's what an alpha is for. A REAL one.
I do. If you were as charming as you tjink you are. As charming as you have seen pther people be. Then uou would have it
It really is not about looks. Height is of course a big deal, but most guys are still taller than most women. They are a factor to be sure, but ugly dudes still get laid by """"""""""""""""""""""maintaining frame control"""""""""""""""""""""""""" and handsome dudes can still be banished to the friendzone.
Getting into her head as an unpredictable force of nature is the primary objective.
I was a nice guy once. I tried to be friendly and kind, generous and helpful.
It didn't work. And frankly the Chad's didn't seem to be having that much luck either.
Then I stopped giving a shit.
When I was in a social setting I started behaving in a way that would most benefit me. I was the life off the party, the first to hit the bar tab and the last to tap it out, I delivered the punch line of every joke and when I walked through those doors people knew I was fucking there.
I started getting mates rates, job offers and gifts, I was trusted with secrets and I received respect. And then, one by one, I started getting women.
Women don't like nice guys. Women don't like assholes. Women don't like attractive men. Women don't (necessarily) like rich men.
What women like are men who know what they want, and then do what they need to to get it.
"I want a nice guy" does not mean for literal "I want a nice guy." It's simply "I want that guy to notice me."
He has a beta face
I can tell 99% of the time when a guy is a beta. They always have a beta face to them.
She however looks like your average pump and dump waste of a woman. Probably just got out of a relationship with a meth dealer and is missing that excitement.
Well there was one response that was some legbeard encouraging him to live as a celibate ally
Fucking hilarious
Listen you stupid cuck piece of shit, I know for most womwn to like you you have to be far more than a nice guys. The thing is there are genuine nice guys that can't get any woman because they lack the other things, there's nothing wrong with that. The thing is mainstream society spins this to say nice guys who can't get laid aren't nice because women are perfect creatures and some woman will eventually pick you up even if you look like an alien, and that is bullshit.
I don't know if y'all remember me from yesterday, but I'm the short doctor on the other woman thread. Could I get more advice from you guys, I really appreciated the advice from yesterday, and I'm hoping to actually get more info.
>5'2
>36
>Usually have been rejected due to my height
>when I do get a date it's usually a one and done or a flake
>a lot of the usual excuses: friends, too short, not my "type"
>some girls I've taken out only liked me cause of my job, they'd ask how much I made
>Personality: witty, honest to a point, I try to have my boundaries and will tell someone if they're crossing it
>hobbies: medical missions, cooking, community work
I often go to church, been trying to go to confession every month, and I've been praying to God to help me find someone.
I don't want to live alone. It's scaring me. I said my only company at the moment is my dog.
>tidbit from yesterday: ended up breaking off a relationship that went from High school to the end of medical school,we separated because of or residency programs being on the opposite side of the country. She ended up meeting someone else and ended up getting married last year. I got invited, but it hurt too much to go.
Did I miss out, or will there ever be more?
damn thats bad
NICE, I love it. I don't know why.
youtube.com
This explains it ALOT better than i ever could
i noticed tho, woman like popular guys more than anything, even if he got 0 merit or shit to his name. they smother themselves all over these type of guys.
Chin up, there's a decent amount of women shorter than you.
But you just said being nice doesn't entitles you to a woman. And you are right an ugly poor nice guy with poor social skills doesn't have many chances to get laid.
You are right.
Essentially, social capital for a woman is not usually viewed positively by men and may be a drawback, while social capital for a man is usually viewed very positively.
I went out once with a girl that was 4'10. She ended up telling me that she preferred guys that were taller, like way taller (5'9 and up).
A lot dating choices based on height has made me a little jaded. After a while it hurts.
Yo ho ho sailor advice is that way.
That sucks.
The sexual market used to be communist, and it's the only possible way for communism to work.
Reminder that the Mannerbund is the strongest unit for controlling women and attempting to be individualistic alphas "out-alphaing" each other will lead to our destruction.
She took out her phone to distract herself, maybe text another dude
This is excellent advice and spot on.
Nice guys have always finished last. Feminists decided about 2010 to attack nice guys for the fuck of it. So now do you not only not get laid, you get mocked and attacked by women, all for buying into bullshit about chivalry.
It was a Legend of Zelda ring box. Do you think she actually enjoys games?
>try to be a genuinely nice person to someone
>"heheh bro i bet youre hitting on her heh"
Ya, I mean it is what it is, but at the same time, family is really important to me and having that close connection like with a spouse or significant other, as my parents tell me (they've been married for over 30+ years) is something you need. Going home day after day, to an empty apartment with no one their to talk to you about your day and chat about your fears, hopes, dreams really eats at you. I would love to be like my dad when he would come home and just talk with me and my siblings. As he said, "It's the best part of my day, after a day at the hospital where you see families devastated, loss of life, or telling someone they're gonna die, having that person or support network really helps".
To make things a bit more complicated, I work as a cardiologist (pediatric specifically), so it wears you down.
be a fucking man. Get angry. Everytime you talk to a girl remember all of the cunts that have turned you down because of your height and say fuck em' women are shallow pieces of shit that arn't worth your effort. Act entitled. Like you are better then them. Believe in your mind that you are smarter than EVERY woman you talk to. Remember you are better than them. Be nice and treat them like a princess but know in your head why you are doing what you are doing. You're trying to get some pussy. You're a man. That's all they are to you just like all you are to them is a paycheck. Let them know how much money you make. Let them know how pretty you think they are. Don't mention your height EVER. Act like its not a thing. If they bring it up look at them like they are bat shit crazy shallow cuntz. Make them beleive that they are wrong for judging your height. Make them beleive that you are what they are missing in their lives.
Yeah man, I don't know how it works in the US but here ugly women want a 10/10 Chad and don't want to settle with anybody until they realize they are too ugly in their 30's.
A lot of nice guys are just acting nice to girls to get score points with them, they're faking their personality. Women are skilled emotional liars so they can see through that charade easily. If you want to impress a girl and you have a hard time 'beeing yourself' just talk to the guys around her like you would normally, mild banter and a lot of joking, no serious subjects. Pretend the girls are invisible until they intervene in the conversation and ask for your attention. For me this works 90% of the time, it's much easier to impress a girl in a group setting.
A nice guy is a pretender and the ones on pol are a perfect example. Outside they have normal jobs and places in society but in their minds they want to gas kikes and hang niggers. Is that really nice?
Date younger. You'll look young forever.
DOn't worry though. My brother is like 5'3"-5'4" and he found a wife his height. I don't like her but she treats him right and they are both happy.
>Why does women and nu-males say that nice guys that can't get laid aren't really nice guys?
Because they are promiscuous whores who have built their lives around sex. They can't comprehend someone who is incapable of having sex so they just reject them and convince themselves that they are just weirdos. It is a coping mechanism.
Do this too. I have gyno and I still get laid often by acting like this.
>Fine I want acxt as an emotional spoonge for you while bitch about thugs and chad while still fucking them in your best years. If give me attention 5 years from now I'll just pumped dump like the used cum rag you are.
As someone who's been with a a lot of women and in more than a few relationships, I say do your own thing. Women are inherently all the same, you're not missing out on anything at all.
You said it yourself stupid idiot, a lot, not all of them are pretenders.
There's always some pretending, dumbass. It's how people operate. It's called the superego, if you never took a freshman psych class.
> hurr my own advise was be a nice guy to other guys instead of the girl
C'mon dude. Get on the trolley.
I get ya. I don't know, it's just I've really idolized how my parents relationship is. My mom is also my dad's best friend. It just makes me sad sometimes after a while being alone. I mean I have my parents and siblings, but I've noticed it's a bit different when it's with a significant other. My brother for example has been married 5+ years and he's been having a blast, my nephew is now 2 and his family that's beginning to grow is so loving and tight knit. I just get a bit down seeing that for him. It's alright though, I guess...
Literally got up from bed after finishing sex and started posting dog torture and laughing at faggots calling mf edgy Virginia kid
I'm not talking about courtesy or etiquette, it's their emotional responses that are heavily exaggerated. You're just too autistic to know the difference. They don't show these responses to men in need of sympathy ever.
Also I never said be a nice guy to other guys
>talk to the guys around her like you would normally, mild banter and a lot of joking, no serious subjects
My parents have neen married for 30 years too m8 and I can tell you that they stay together now out of habit. I'll bet it's the same for your parents too. I'll wager $50 that the intimacy left their relationship a long time ago and that they're just friends who live in the same house.
If you fill your life with purpose you won't even miss being in a relationship. I certainly don't.
He doesn't see the problem though it's right in front of him. Feminism destroyed this man
Have you tried having zero standards? Like, posting ln craiglist or OKCupid that you will take any one of them that wants to be your gf no matter what. It doesn't work for most guys but for a doctor like you maybe it will.
Be cocky and funny man, as an ex beta that learned to be an alpha, it's definitely possible as long as you are willing to change yourself to be desirable.
This is the most common mistake guys make, not changing themselves to be desirable
There's a really good book called the mystery method if you ever get a chance to read it that I would recommend, it worked for me, it can work for you too.
I'd rather not get divorced raped. A co-worker of mine has gotten married 3 times, and each ended in divorce. He's now paying 15,000-20,000 a month for two of the wives. The other didn't want alimony suprisingly.
I found mystery to be full of it. I do like Mark Manson's books, more so on the self-improvement side. But it only goes so far, physical attributes for both sexes do matter too. In my case, it's my height that a lot of women see.
Except when you find that girl that appreciates nice guys, it's honestly the most special thing in the world.
t. found a pure girl who likes me for being nice and wants to marry me
hang in there bros. It's not supposed to be easy, but that's why we do it.
You do realize that the phrase "nice guy" is a euphemism for an effeminate man? And "jerk" is an insult directed at men who dare display any semblance of masculinity?
Millenials are so deluded and believe this touchy feely "people should love me for who I am! Self improvement and striving for success are outdated ideas!" bullshit.
They are so deluded that they even made up safeguards for their delusion. "Friendzone". As if being a doormat usually works, but in this case it didn't because of a twist of fate.
Back 50 or 60 years ago, there were no nice guys. Because when a man was inneffectual or weak, he admitted it and maybe even seeked to improve himself. Not pretend that he is actually the ideal man and everyone else is wrong.
Cut out this "nice guy" shit. Its just a result of millenial narcissism.
>women want men to be alpha or beta whenever they want them to be tough or cucked
>men like women who are modest yet wild in the bedroom
guess which is considered sexist?