/doag/ - Dumbing of Age therapy session

Where's becky?

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Patreanon is dead and free of his pain. Now, someone else must take up the mantle so that we may be angry at and over-analyze a shitty webcomic together.

>patreanon is dead
w-what?

Okay, to be fair "The Oriental Deceptress" sounds like an awesome 50s-60s supervillain.

Post the warboss edits.

Or, you could stop insisting on a general until there's something worth posting about.

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Whenever Patreanon is slightly late we assume he's died and begin to mourn.

He usually comes back but one day it might happen so it's all good.

well I was only worried because I think he was saying we'll need a new patreanon soon last thread.

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I'm confused, does Sup Forums like doag or not?

Oh yeah, no, we don't mourn *him*

Everyone knows that as soon as a Patreanon perishes his consciousness is archived and uploaded into a freshly-prepared clone which takes his place.

Yeah, he has this whole existential thing about how his sole purpose is to provide whining anons with a shitty comic strip a day early, but nobody listens to him.

no.

we enjoy our hate together

We hate DoA but we love each other.

Does the dad ever show up again after that?

>"2016 Edition: Who is DoA's hottest lady?" poll on the DoA website
>Mary is in last place

We must correct this mistake.

he got left in traction, and likely arrested afterward.

I know I voted for her

I admire his work ethic. Dude takes cartooning super seriously, like a real job. You'll never see Willis post a "sorry I'm sick/tired/someone died/I just don't feel creative tonight" excuse sketch, because the dude makes the comics weeks in advance. He has a huge backlog.

There are webcomics I read because I love the artwork, and I'm willing to wait a week or two between updates. There are cartoonists I've been following for decades across multiple projects, despite flakey update schedules, because I like the characters they create and the stories they weave. Willis is the only one I can think of off the top of my head who treats cartooning like *professional fucking work* and puts in a professional amount of effort.

So I respect him for that.

On the other hand... while Willis can write a good story and create compelling characters, he's hampered by the fact that he's about as whitebread as they come. He simply does not have the life experience (or intellectual depth) to adequately represent modern racial and social issues, but he persists in trying. At this point he's basically parroting/pandering to the Tumblr crowd, and while his heart is in the right place, it's often pretty cringey. He also has a bad habit of using his status as "the author" as a bully pulpit to strawman his critics and make fun of them. He's so bad about it that saying "strawman" to him is triggering.

>He has a huge backlog.
he shits out a bunch of shitty comics, then never makes any actual adjustments to the comic despite any critique or anything, and he excuses it as the comics having been written months previously.

His heart's not at all in the white place. He's pandering to the lowest common denominator for internet credibility, and he's pretty notoriously racist IRL.

he also loves to deflect any criticism and use those same minorities he's pretending to support as a scapegoat.

I just voted for best girl.

>I admire his work ethic. Dude takes cartooning super seriously, like a real job.
He won't flake out, but let's not go too far. The art in a lot of strips has been phoned in. The paneling, coloring, perspective, and just about anything else aren't well thought-out. He's admitted DoA is a project he does because he can coast by with it.

So no Patreanon tonight?

... I'm actually okay with this. Willy's finally getting to the point where his stuff's both bad and dull so I can't even really read it.

None of us chucklefucks know each other enough to like one another.
It's more like we love to hate together.

Come now, getting to know someone is the perfect way to foster hatred, especially among such distinguished fellows as we.

Like all good relationships, this one must be founded solely upon shallow, raw emotion. And since nobody here is attractive, we'll have to replace lust with frothing anger.

He's one of those guys who -still- states allegiance to a side in that clusterfuck and doesn't just write off both sides as absolute cancer, isn't he?

I'd respect his commitment to having a backlog more if he was more willing to look at what's coming and make improvements.

As it stands, it feels like he did, maybe, twice as much work for three months to make the backlog, and ever since then, he's been coasting along at the same general speed. And if he does edit something in the backlog, it's usually only a day before it goes online, so it's very, very likely that the majority of his strips are a first draft with no editing (and with some strips, like the infamous Mary dickslap pic, it's very obvious that he didn't take a second look at it). And as a hobbyist writer myself, someone who just doesn't edit their work professionally is someone I don't want to respect as an artist.

Also, yeah, his heart's not in the right place. On some level, I know that he agrees with the people he's pandering to, but that's so filtered by his unassailable ego and his guilt/rage over his past history and his general incompetence as a writer of social issues that it's basically nonexistent.

If Willis had simply stuck to goofy sci-fi while still holding the same views, we probably wouldn't have to rag on him so much. I have a lot of artists that I like who support the liberal views I have, but they don't write screeds about their views into every bit of their work because they know what they're good at.

Anti-GG was never as bad as GG at its worst.

Isn't it funny how we anticipate a comic we hate?

Even if that's true, and it isn't: The anti's just seemed a touch more palatable to people who didn't give a shit, then it still doesn't matter. Both sides were a shitstorm dredging up the worst of the internet community and throwing it in everyone's faces for months.

It's like saying would you rather eat a mouldy sandwich or uncooked roadkill.

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Man, we're really cool for not caring.

Man, I don't think it's even about being cool, it's just about being reasonable.

And of course, we know Willy would have sided with anti-GG by dint of feminism regardless of anything.

Eh, I second hand care: I have some friends who were involved in the first week or two of it then gave up in complete disgust not just for the opposite side, but for what the side they'd been supporting in the first place had devolved into.

Hell, I'd even argue the initial dispute (some people complaining about someone trading sex for good reviews) had exactly nothing to do with the later argument as a whole (long winded MRA vs SJW cage match).

I used to be staunchly pro-GG I even have a vivian james shirt which I still wear because it is the comfiest t-shirt I've ever worn, but I distanced myself right quick the less it became about the actual problem at hand and more about shitflinging at the SJWs.

I hoped that since he stopped doing Shortpacked, he'd put more work into DoA. But now he's putting less into it.

wait, didn't this exact comic happen like a year ago? I know because it was the only time I have ever read a DoA strip

I just googled doa pages.

patreanon has failed us.

I'm pretty sure someone just keeps posting it and bumping the thread themselves

We have about 15-30 regulars, depending on whether or not anything particularly heinous is happening in DoA and whether or not patreanon has abandoned us. This is more or less business as usual..

Patreanon just realized they were hurting us by encouraging use to read this shit.

It's just the same strip from before. There's not a new one right now. Patreanon has a new job IIRC, so the strips aren't going to be coming to us as regularly.

> Mary dickslap pic

What's this about?

So, at one point, every door in the dorm had a picture of a dick drawn on it (for awkwardly-written reasons that we won't get into right now). Ruth was too busy with...something to be arsed to take care of cleaning the dicks off. Mary, being Mary, raised a fuss, and Ruth, being Ruth, drew a dick on her hand with marker and slapped Mary hard enough to leave a dickprint on her face.

The editing problem is that the red handprint (yes, Ruth slapped a girl so hard it left a mark and she's still the best RA the dorm's ever had) is of a *left* hand, and Ruth drew the dick on her *right* hand. More so, the print was left on Mary's *right* cheek, so even if Ruth had slapped her with her right hand, Mary would have had to be faced away from Ruth to get hit like that.

The comment section noticed the mistake within half a day. Willis's official excuse was that the direction of the strip was more important than accuracy, but the fact is that Willis decided that coming up with a sensible alteration of that scene (or, you know, maybe not having a character we're supposed to sympathize with smacking around a freshman) was just too much effort

Ohhhhh!

Makes sense then, thank you.

/doag/ is here to inform, whenever we're not fending off Sup Forums, making ridiculous edits or facetiously declaring Mary the second coming of Christ

This is completely unedited.

this fix took me exactly 10 seconds.

10 seconds was too much for willis to fix.

Mary's heading in the same direction that Ruth is going now. Not exactly the best way to get away from an abuser.

nah, look at the directions in panels 2 and 4

Huh. Yeah, that works.

oh wait, I'm stupid, I was looking at the original.

now it does look like they're going the same way, but ruth looks rather static, she could just be glaring at ruth as she walks off uncaring.

Patreanon has a fucking job that doesn't revolve around giving us our daily dose.

Iy isn't abuse when you beat someone whom you regard as morally inferior.

It's called social justice you shitlord!

Alas, my friends, I do not *get* to die. I was just in Milwaukee and didn't have my computer. It looks like last night's wasn't posted, so here's that! In last night's strip, Dr. No-Eyebrows returns and Billie gets kicked out. Will this be the last time she sees her lady-love? Unlikely!

I'll post the new one in a few hours.

So...even the doctor is saying that Ruth getting psychiatric care is a good thing.

Or in other words, Mary helped save Ruth.

Goddammit

The way Willis is emphasizing the words makes it seem like Doc No-Brows is politely and indirectly ushering Billie out of the room as fast as she can.

Reminder that Ruth has been in psychiatric care for less than 24 hours.

The way Willis is emphasizing the words makes it seem like Billie's about to have a panic attack because she can't take care of Ruth anymore

>I've been taking care of your friend

Um, check your privilege doctor because Billie is her GIRLfriend, I see what you're trying to do by issuing a subtle verbal demotion to their relationship, so keep your Fundie Christian values to yourself and you should probably quit your job and go kill yourself for endangering these poor starcrossed lovers.

I think it is more that the Doctor doesn't seem to have any clue about the circumstances surrounding Ruth getting committed. Why would she think that Billy had anything to do with Ruth receiving medical attention?

More like she's confused as hell and doesn't understand what doctors are for.

How dare you throw your bigotry around like that? Dismissing the accomplishments of a strong black woman in a field dominated by men to support the privilege of a rich white girl who is half-Asian which the exact same as being white so she's like double-white making her even more privileged. Plus they're "bisexual" meaning they're just straight girls pretended to be lesbians to steal victimization from real minorities and attract men.

LONG LIVE PATREANON! NOW OUR SUFFERING WILL BECOME MORE SEVERE!

In tonight's strip, Leslie is gonna lose all her social justice points once word gets out she was gonna unintentionally out someone who might not even be glbtq+.

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THE POINT OF THIS SCENE?

Well at least he's talking about it. I swear we were all supposed to act like it was no big deal that Leslie gave up her views for some puss.

I can't tell who is more awful in this situation: Roz or Leslie. Fuck both of them straight to hell.

I fail to understand any logic in Leslie's actions.
I also fail to understand why Roz is pissed.
I further fail to understand why Dorothy even cares.

If anything, Dorothy should be pissed for being unable to have her question asked.

Oh, Leslie, you're so full of shit. You wanted to bang her, and then you made up the justifications for that to make yourself feel better.

Are there any authority figures in this fucking comic that are not total shit?

Roz, definitely Roz. Worst thing about Leslie is that she was willing to forget her morals for a second to get laid. Worst thing about Roz is she's a selfish, manipulative hypocrite who was entirely willing to take advantage of her teachers emotions to try and sink her sisters political career because she disagrees with her. Fuck Roz, she doesn't contribute anything good to anybody.

Wow that's a lot of nothing

Its not outting them if you're seducing them.

I mean I guess "owns a pizza shop" makes him the figure of authority within that restaurant.

And he's a bit odd, but he's not a shitlord.

Presumably Roz would video tape her sister and Leslie fucking and release the video on the internet to destroy her.

was in response to

What exactly is Roz's motivation for seeking to ruin Robin's political career again? What does Roz get out of it?

Does Willis even know?

Roz. It's always Roz. Leslie, at worst, was pursuing a shitty relationship for selfish reasons. Roz was helping Leslie for the express purpose of destroying her sister's political career.

Leslie wanted to get her clit licked but when forced to face Robin's record directly lost her lady boner.
Roz is pissed because she was going to forcibly out her sister to destroy her political career.
Dorothy cares and seems awfully nonchalant about the whole thing because Willis wants her to be.

If anything, Dorothy should just use google to find Ryan considering she has his name, picture, university, and internship information.

Roz is ideologically opposed to her sister and, therefore, feels that any of her actions short of murder become justified in opposing Robin. She already debased herself by making and releasing a sex tape to discredit Robin.

joyce's dad is awesome

There really should have been a Galasso vs. DeSanto campaign arc.

She's opposed to her sister's political views and presumably a sadistic glee. I mean, this is a woman who responded to a fundie saying, "You were right," with "Fuck you, shitlord."

But Leslie is aware of Roz's intentions to publicly out Robin and still went along with her plan. That is some terrible disregard for the well-being of someone she wants to fuck.

Is that so WRONG?

>Leslie wanted to get her clit licked but when forced to face Robin's record directly lost her lady boner.
That's understandable, but it shouldn't affect her lust assuming it was meant to be pure lust and not outright affection. Just because you dislike a person's religious or political opinions, it doesn't mean you don't want to stick your dick in their mouth to shut them up.

>Roz is pissed because she was going to forcibly out her sister to destroy her political career.
See , though by the time I got around to typing all this out, happened.
And in response to that, I still question why Robin wants to outright end her career entirely. It's the equivalent of a sore loser on a school playground or playing board games trying to make up rules so that they become the winner.

>Dorothy cares and seems awfully nonchalant about the whole thing because Willis wants her to be.
I feel as though that's how Willis writes a lot of his characters.

>If anything, Dorothy should just use google to find Ryan considering she has his name, picture, university, and internship information.
She very well could. I only worked in a newsroom for a week, but if you know where to look you can find means of contacting people who know about people, much less the person themselves.
For example, with little more than a name, a photograph, and the event he was at, Dorothy could have directly asked Robin's campaign manager (via town hall, who likely would have had her information through setting up the rally) for information about Ryan, perhaps lying about sexual assault.

But I doubt Willis spent his freshman year in a journalism major.

Don't we all.

Every lesbian in this comic is a stupid, self-centered fuck boi.

Roz. Roz is worse.
Les was just being a bit of a desperate starfucker and let that blind her to the moral compromises that she was engaging in, from implicitly supporting anti-gay politics, to 'exploiting' a student for personal benefit. And she realized what she was doing and shut the whole thing down.

Roz is actively trying to destroy her sister's political career, personal life, and possibly drive personal wedges between her various family members, all because Robin's political persona is adamantly against her being a total whore. She is so mad about people telling her NOT to fuck anyone she talks to for 20 minutes that she's willing to turn her sister into a figure of likely national mockery.

>I also fail to understand why Roz is pissed.

Because her overly complex revenge plan on Robin of "getting her fisted" failed.

Imagine if Carla's stupid laser contraption had just fallen over when Mary opened the door. That's what just happened here.

There's probably some bit players in the hall who are gay but not terrible

Only because Willis hasn't done a plot about them yet.

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Robin was a bit of an abstraction to Leslie as they had only met in person once. It's a crush that went a little too far but Leslie realized and pulled back before any harm was done.

And Dorothy probably could have found Ryan on LinkedIn or Facebook just through his internship.

True, but you also have to consider that Roz is at an extreme disadvantage. Leslie knows what Roz wants to do, has no reason not to inform Robin of what Roz wants to do, and can actively impede Roz trying to out her sister.

God bless, Yoto.

I don't think anyone has told her not to fuck anyone she talks to for 20 minutes, just to not use it as some harebrained attempt to sabotage her sister's political campaign. Did we ever find out if Joe was okay with Roz using their sex tape in that manner?

>I don't think anyone has told her not to fuck anyone she talks to for 20 minutes, just to not use it as some harebrained attempt to sabotage her sister's political campaign.

I'm basically extrapolating here, assuming that Roz's whoring began before she got to university and that she's been futilely told to tone it down before the sextapes started.

Considering Roz is a freshman, her level of whoring over time must be insanely high. Like, "I have my own coffee mug at the abortion clinic" high.

Speaking of whoring, I'm feeling creative. Give a pairing and I'll write a quick lewd.

Danny/Sal

All of these characters are retarded

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I just can't seem to get it to work with those two.

Roz/Mary

Mary tops

Honestly drawing mor attention to her is just asking for Willis to write a story in which she gets her "comeuppance ".
Like that old abortion storyline.

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Meanwhile I'm late by a day and a half on uploading porn and no one gives a fuck. Life is grand for the pornanon