Search4, a regular of trekbbs had this to say about the Premiere of STD:
Very lucky to be able to attend. Tremendous showing of support from CBS with a number of older series regulars attending including Shatner, Nichols, Frakes and more. Many production people as well. The two-parter was shown.
The crowd was genetically destined to love this iteration of Star Trek ... regardless it was extremely well received. Gorgeous. Interesting. Enough meat to start a debate. Some fireworks. Really interesting start.
Blew Orville out of the sky IMHO.
I can’t say that All-Access is a good idea but this looks to be a show worth watching.
Jack Lee
>show worth watching it's not about being worth watching it's about having to watch it anyway as a Star Trek regular and wheter that duty is a pleasant one
Josiah Scott
Embargo LAMO at this garbage dump.
Aaron Stewart
>The crowd was genetically destined to love this iteration of Star Trek
what did he mean by this?
Owen Morris
>I REMEMBER THING >I CLAPPED >I CLAPPED WHEN I SAW IT >AT-ST'S AT-ST'S!
Leo Hill
Orville is a comedy though, this is stupid. You can generally expect an original series to be more meaningful than it's comedy counterpart, especially when it comes to Star Trek, and I don't think Seth was ever trying to make his show better than Star Trek. Whoever said this seems to be offended by Orville.
Henry Smith
> The crowd was genetically destined to love this iteration of Star Trek > genetically destined to have bad tastes.
>Enough meat to start a debate Means it's very shitty.
Matthew Davis
I watched the 2nd episode of Orville and I can honestly say they try to rip-off Star Trek in immoral and probably illegal sense at this point. It's not just a comedy or a satire anymore. About 80% of the show is regular star trek of the TNG era and only a small part are actual jokes making me believe they made a conscious decision to copy-cat TNG.
But it's all good, those that have overdosed to the TNG-like treks will find no issue, STD will be obviously better especially because it's not a retro copy-cat of most treks of the 90s and 00s.
Nolan Allen
(((they))) loved (((it)))
Benjamin Reyes
>and I can honestly say they try to rip-off Star Trek in immoral and probably illegal sense at this point >STD will be obviously better lmfao
Hudson Lewis
Interesting. What a strange and perverse thing to do.
Lucas Young
...
Leo Butler
and thats why we love it so far
orville doesnt take itself seriously and that is what star trek universe needs right now not some fucking stargate universe beverly hills 90210 mix up on space
Jose Wilson
What's wrong with his face?
Colton Cruz
Shatner is snarky as fuck
Henry Scott
I loathe the modern trend of gratuitous over design. The original uniforms are simple and iconic. From TOS to TNG and DS9 the uniforms look like uniforms rather than costumes.
Josiah Martin
Is he, dare I say it... /ourguy/?
Nathan Rodriguez
Bless him. Hey Bill, you're on Sup Forums pretty often. What's your opinion on STD?
Oliver Lewis
>because it's not a retro copy-cat of most treks of the 90s and 00s. That's why it's yet another prequel show.
Ryan Sanders
I also attended the premiere. This show makes Enterprise look like a fucking masterpiece.
Justin Nguyen
according to nu-males here ENT is already a masterpiece
Grayson Edwards
>mfw based Shatner will make threads destroying Discovery with us
Anthony Wilson
It had it's episodes that were good, but it was easily the weakest (by a large margin) than the others in the series.... until now that is.
Nathaniel Turner
>The crowd was genetically destined to love this iteration of Star Trek ... regardless it was extremely well received. Gorgeous. Interesting. Enough meat to start a debate. Some fireworks. Really interesting start.
Real people don't talk like this
David Bennett
>duty
You have no duty to do any of that you autistic manchild.
Anthony Diaz
Shatner is actually a pretty funny guy, I watched a recent interview and he was making the host crack up. He may have been a dick in 70s when he though he was typecast and bitter but I think he's a at peace with it now and has become A based old man
Samuel Morris
So you're telling me that a Trekkie, invited to a special premiere with all his favorite actors ended up shilling for STD. Who could have possibly foreseen that outcome?
Daniel Lopez
and even then they had to make him talk shit about Orville the shilling is realer than real life
Jack Bennett
What bothers me about the new outfits is the lack of easily identifiable colors for job type. I'm sure there is some little detail somewhere, but it's not how it was before where it was unmistakable. The TOS uniforms honestly do look cheap as fuck (because they were), but the whole shirt being a distinct color was both useful and iconic. TNG took the idea and made it look less cheap. DESU, Star Trek sort of requires distinctly colored outfits to retain its tone. I know this is petty, but I can't accept Trek without it.
These new costumes look like something that belongs in Mass Effect. Actually everything about the bridge design and technology looks much more like Mass Effect. Why didn't they just make a Mass Effect show if they hated Trek aesthetics so much?
Alexander Russell
I dunno man, season 3 of ENT was basically the tone VOY should have been. Darker without being grimdark. They out VOY'd VOY. That's something.
Carter Barnes
At least they're better than ENT uniforms.
Nathan Thompson
Enterprise is comfy as fuck... And the last season was really good.
Owen Powell
>doesn't like ENT
opinion discarded
Michael Wood
How do you even make it to season 3? I can't stand this garbage long enough to finish the first season.
Nathaniel Lopez
Will, go sleep.
Jayden Morales
Yeah even if this is just one person with a chip on their shoulder, it's still really weak to bring up Orville as an actual competitor to Star Trek.
Liam Hall
Enterprise does not compare to TNG & DS9, but it is still waaaay better than this voyager shitshow. Neelix must be the worst character i have ever seen on tv.
Justin Gomez
>Neelix must be the worst character i have ever seen on tv. How can he be the worst when there's Chakotay, Paris, Kim, Kes, ....
Logan Gutierrez
Not really. ENT uniforms were somewhat bland, but they at least retained the colored lines on the shoulders. Not great, but they tried. The uniforms weren't whizz bang overdesigned like in STD either. Some blue flight suits were fairly inoffensive. STD uniforms are way too busy.
Luke Turner
>flown out to attend the premiere business class >put up in a nice hotel >invited to paid drinks >glowing reviews it's gamergate all over again
Matthew Evans
Season 1 and 2 are fairly weak, but I find them an easier watch than the first two seasons of TNG. To be honest, the quality level of those seasons generally beats any random Voyager episode for me at least. I highly enjoy the set design and the alien designs and prosthetics.
These seasons also introduce Shran who may be the best reoccurring non-crew side character in Trek.
Lucas Nguyen
>complaining because uniforms look like actual uniforms instead of sweaters and pajamas
the ABSOLUTE state of nu-males
Jackson Sanchez
>that image
Robert Ward
All these characters are boring. Neelix is actively annoying. The show should have kept Tuvix. Better actor than either of the other characters.
Tyler Russell
>CBS All Access
This series is a Producers-like scam, designed to fail. No one is going to pay ten bucks a month just for Star Trek. Obviously we'll torrent it, but there will not be enough subscribers to tune in or keep it afloat.
Justin Price
It's also literally everything RLM mocks in their Nerd Crew videos.
Cameron Scott
jewish trash. We must secure the future of the white race
t. Bill
Blake James
...
Jordan Lewis
>pic
William Diaz
You're not the only one that believes that, I've been suspecting it for a while. There's no way the people making STD can be this damn stupid. They're literally doing everything they can to alienate their core audience and expecting it to turn out well for them.
Thomas Bell
First season TNG was bad but only the "Zulus kidnap Tasha" episode approached the awfulness of ENT. The second season has some of the best episodes in all of Trek.
Asher Myers
memes aside, kurrzmann is another bland, Jewish SciFi writer. Why are there so many of them? They show up on every terrible capeshit and ruin it
James Hughes
Why would anyone alive pay money just for this?
Most trekkies aren't even interested and will torrent it
Alexander Green
>"All life is born from chaos. The world doesn’t always adhere to logic. Sometimes down is up. And Sometimes when you’re lost….you’re found.
Cooper Robinson
TNG S2 had stuff like The Measure of A Man, sure. But it also had a lot of filler and downright crap. Like I said, you can pick out some serious bombs in ENT (Dear Doctor), but overall the quality and the actual commitment to the premise makes it watchable. I like seeing human/Vulcan friction, I like seeing less stiff characters, I like a return to more TOS style aliens.
Basically, the opening five minutes of the pilot are the barometer of if you like the first two seasons. Do you think a farmer with a double barrel plasma shotgun shooting a Klingon in his cornfield is fun or too stupid?
Anyway, just skip to S3 and try it. It beats you over the head with 9/11 parallels, but it gives an actual interesting continuing setting for a whole season.
Aaron Stewart
finally I have became startrek stds
Jason Butler
Somebody was paid to write that. I write shit less hokey when I'm drunkenly writing sci-fi scripts nobody will ever see.
Tyler Morales
You would be praising this line right now if it came from batman v superman
Matthew Rivera
>Tremendous showing of support from CBS with a number of older series regulars attending including Shatner
Look forward to Shatner shitposting about STD on here.
Dylan Carter
I think batman vs superman should have relegated to Sup Forums with all the other superhero movies
Lincoln Fisher
you faggots would love it if it was in some anime
Jason Campbell
>the actual commitment to the premise makes it watchable Are you fucking kidding me?
That's the worst part! It completely ignores its premise. >We don't have shields yet - lol who cares just make hull plating work exactly shields >Transporters are too primitive to transport human - lol who cares let's use it on humans every second episode >Humanity is much more vulnerable and space more dangerous - lol who cares let's treat it like a camping trip
Julian Ross
When he goes, will he get a sticky?
Elijah Reyes
only sometimes though
Brody Nelson
I meant in terms of humanity having friction with allies, as well as Archer being kind of a fuckup. He was explicitly a second stringer and only was the Captain because the first choice died. The show repeatedly points out times where he makes mistakes. It's kind of a running idea. So "it's a camping trip" is basically how Archer acts until space starts slapping the shit out of him.
As for the technology upgrades, yeah sure they get some stuff a little too fast, especially transporters, but the whole idea is they are continuously upgrading. Even into S4 the ship is changing a bit.
TOS>TNG>DS9>ENT>VOY
It's not the strongest Trek, but it's still good.
Henry Turner
>I meant in terms of humanity having friction with allies Which goes against the whole of idea of Trek >as well as Archer being kind of a fuckup. And what kind of retarded premise is that? Why would you give a fuckup the most advanced ship humanity has to offer, and put the lives of its crews in his hands.
>As for the technology upgrades What technology upgrades. The retarded hull plating shit was there right from the beginning.
James Reyes
>What bothers me about the new outfits is the lack of easily identifiable colors for job type
This changes over the course of the series. The uniforms evolve from ENT style to TOS style by the end
Austin Hall
>TNG>TOS>VOY>TAS>ENT>DS9
Henry Richardson
Enterprise didn't have a single likeable character. Even Scott Bakula couldn't make Archer likeable.
Isaiah Martin
>Blew Orville out of the sky IMHO >retard doesn't even know Star Trek takes place in space >we're supposed to give a shit about its opinion on it
twin keckes
Luis Baker
>2017 >DS9 fags still falseflag so they can sperg about TNG
Ryder James
The doctor was okay and of course Jeffrey Combs. But Archer in shower scenes alone had more screen time than both put together.
Julian Sanchez
The idea of friction and fucking up is that humanity grows out of it and becomes closer to the "enlightened" version we get later. It's called "growth".
As for Archer fucking up, humanity didn't scrape him out of the bottom of the barrel. He was a top candidate, he just happened to be the second choice, not the first. In any case nobody in humanity was ready. Again, that's the point. Humans and specifically the crew learn how to handle this stuff.
Gabriel Ross
So is this like a weird fetish or what?
Thomas Morales
>The idea of friction and fucking up is that humanity grows out of it and becomes closer to the "enlightened" version we get later. But humanity is more enlightened in it than even the Vulcans. Who are retconned to be dicks, so we can have a dumb twist.
And it wasn't "humanity isn't ready". You're the captain of a flagship. It's not some amazing new challenge to take the job seriously instead fucking around and acting salty because Vulcans dissed your dad.
Juan Mitchell
Not being able to discuss a new Star Trek show on Sup Forums without alt-right thread derailing will probably be the thing that finally makes me leave this shit hole.
Tolkien, Hannibal and Trek threads were my favorite Sup Forums comfiness and now Tolkien threads are is pure cancer and Hannibal's followup American God's threads were completely unusable. Star Trek will be the nail in the coffin.
Lucas Carter
Freddie is kind of the odd one out because that character is originally male, but yeah Fuller does it for fun.
Colton Lewis
>space isn't the all envolving sky
Logan Cox
>I actually thought that this picture was from the MacFarlane parody show lol this is gonna be such a train wreck.
Brayden Gutierrez
This is like when the porn parody has way better costume design than the $200 million capeshit
It's because believe it or not the parody guys care more
Nolan Garcia
>Retconned
Remember McCoy's crazy racism in TOS? Now it has an explanation.
Kayden Hernandez
Alt right pussies are desperate to derail Star Trek
Noah Ortiz
Orville should have put the computers behind the captain's chair though. Framing looks way to empty without it.
Maybe if the show gains legs they'll upgrade it in-universe and change some of the design.
Logan Allen
>It's because believe it or not the parody guys care more in today's society that is almost always the case.
Isaac Bennett
He means that CBS was preaching to the choir. There was no way they weren't going say that they loved it.
Blake Cooper
Are you genuinely retarded? The sky is the atmospheric layer of a planet. There is no "sky" in space as there is no ground to observe "up" from.
Jackson Lee
Too bad they're also mods
John Williams
How come their suits don't look like they would fit if they put their arms up?
Connor Richardson
>crowd was genetically destined to love this iteration wtf do they design shills in labs now?
James Anderson
OP set his anus to "fill".
Ryder Flores
For Shatner? We're gonna get two.
Blake Stewart
It means that their non-European genes elicited a positive reaction to being shown others with similar genetic characteristics.
Daniel Nguyen
that's wonder woman at the bottom?
Xavier Cruz
people went to see a premiere and later on they only had positive things to say
like for real who ever went to a premiere and shit on the movie/series ?
Henry Phillips
ye
John Butler
I'm so fucking glad that Orvillle happened if only because this monstrosity will actually be challenged by SOMETHING
Carter Clark
If Star Trek isn't going to actually be produced properly, why would I care that someone else produces it under a different veneer? You think anyone here gives a tiny fucking shit about CBS losing shekels? Know your audience before commenting next time you dumb shill
Noah Gutierrez
>naming your movie after the old popcorn guy
ABSOLUTELY AMERICAN and also a bad idea.
Carson Clark
Real journalists/critics who are used to getting advanced screenings, plied with alcohol and given goody bags and aren't in awe of the entire experience like bloggers and "internet commentators" are