I love Jesus and I love the Church, but Rome is pushing me away with their complete globalist bullshit. What am I supposed to do?
Don't say go to another Church. That is bullshit. You don't pick religions based on politics. You pick them based on whether they're true or not. The Roman Catholic Church is the real Church of Christ. But it is susceptible to human error in all ways except one.
The problem is that this doesn't mean the pope is a raging Soros Dick Sucker who makes me unable to sit through a homily about why Mehmet needs his knob polished.
How to handle this? I've already stopped contributing financially and made sure most of my family and friends stopped as well. I turned down a bid to join the Knights of Columbus. What can I do to be a part of the Church without dealing with the commie infestation.
Don't say go Trad Cat. I want to, but there aren't any reasonably close by.
No. You sound like you don't know a thing about the Church
Jaxon Reyes
We've been spoiled by having Benedict XVI as the brains behind the throne from '77 til he retired. Islam hated B16. When Francis is gone, we'll find smarter people.
Henry King
So what until then? My next step is to go to confession and unleash a string of insults on whatever priest I encounter. It's not much, but at least in confession there's the guarantee of a genuine interaction with Christ.
Not much else that can be done.
Asher Martin
Globalism is the goal of every corporation, so yes
Caleb Myers
Et ego dico tibi, quia tu es Petrus, et super hanc petram aedificabo Ecclesiam meam, et portæ inferi non praevalebunt adversus eam
Ayden Evans
I think globalism to the church means something different than to corporations.
Hunter Harris
It does. But explaining that to someone with no knowledge of the theology and its practical implications is rather difficult.
Lincoln Bennett
Like always: wait and pray. The only guarantee is we will win on the last day. More likely than not we will lose a lot til then. We are in God's hands always.
Gavin Bennett
>Catholicity >Vatican 2
Pick one
Jacob Hughes
>gates of hell shall not prevail There are no other options. Francis can't fuck up the church but he can make it annoying.
Michael Walker
you have no knowledge of the church or theology.
Leo Green
I just stopped going.
I had a native Mexican priest and he would always talk about how the US should have open borders, pray for "more generous" immigration laws, etc. Another thing that got me is how my former diocese would pour funds into the Saltillo Mission, which is essentially a place where migrants go on their way to the US.
I believe in God, but we shouldn't destroy America because of feels.
Juan Rogers
Can someone sum up why Vatican II was a bad thing? I'm not a Catholic and I tried reading in to it but I'm not educated enough on Catholic dogma to have any reasonable discernment on what's right.
Juan Hernandez
Yes it is you know nothing about the church
Oliver Roberts
the main problem is that cucktholisism or 'true' christjewism 2.0 is just a jewish trick, same as islam. Never trust a jew. Even if he calls himself the son of god or if his mother says she didn't cheat and get pregnant.
Cooper Reed
>The Roman Catholic Church is the real Church of Christ.
Noah Perez
Lol he thinks Roman Catholicism is the one true church
Michael Peterson
What part of loving your enemies do you not understand, shitbrick?
Caleb Moore
>he thinks it isnt
I wanna smell a burning heretic on a Saturday morning again
Ryder Carter
The church that holds the true biblical cannon is the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church. The Catholic church has been taken over by Jesuit globalists that plan to call the fallen angels "aliens" and friends to God. Read the book of Enoch my friends to learn the truth.
Joshua Wilson
Christianity is a religion for literal cucks, and francis embodies that well
Josiah Gomez
>love Jesus and I love the Church >Cathocuck You love a lie.
Evan Hall
Holy shit someone isn't actually Catholic. Francis is actually very orthodox, and I firmly believe he is slowly but surely purging all of the liberal, pedo, pedo-covering, and, of course, faggot elements out of the Church.
HOWEVER, the media outlets in the US that report the news about the Church is handled exclusively by the AMERICAN CATHOLIC DEVILS. I'm talking about the really fucking liberal, homosexuals (Cardinal Dolan, piece of shit hired male prostitutes)
Yeah, if you actually go directly to the Roman news sources, you'll see that Francis is orthodox and making real strides to taking out the trash.
Ryder Clark
He's a Jesuit and an NWO plant. Benedictine opted for early retirement and then they put this schmoop in. He's no man of God.
The last real pope was John Paul II.
Andrew Allen
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Jeremiah Gutierrez
This is the truth.
Bentley Wood
+1
I've just decided to pay no attention to anything coning out if his mouth and turn my back on the Holy See for the remainder of his tenure.
Then, when he does shuffle off, I can return to the Church.
Also, he's not Pope at all, Benedict is still alive. Therefore in my eyes he remains the big kahuna.
Aiden Gomez
Vatican 2 has been grossly misunderstood and used by demons to pervert the liturgy. For example, Vatican 2 never espoused doing Mass in vernacular; only scripture and homilies.
Now that people are waking up Vatican 2 will actually be followed, and we'll go back to pre-1970s orthodoxy.
Church>Nation. Down with the protestant, atheistic American, homosexual state.
Julian Myers
Too bad we can't have autos da fe like the old Spanish huh?
Dominic Lee
looks like your need a lesson in Humility
Asher Sullivan
if you are a catholic then you are a moron, period.
the idea that God inspires an elected representative on earth is as idiotic as the bible being inspired 500 years after jesus left.
Thankfully in modern times we got to see this faggot pope get elected which proves my previous two points above.
You might want to check other christian denominations like coptic christians or orthodox. Just make sure to look out for cuck elements.
Nicholas Smith
As tho Benedict, then head of the CDF, wasn't correcting all St. JP2's writings to ensure Orthodoxy.
russian orthadox church mate...its not cucked yet go there
Xavier Walker
Which denomination has the most qts?
Josiah Gray
cathocucks have mary a saint invented in the 1800's
Carson Morgan
This.
You can't trust what the MSM says about anything. Francis is doing alright.
My problem is local priests and bishops. They're all immigrant-cock suckers. They also play into the white genocide plans by not encouraging the youth to reproduce and stay in the Church. Instead they pander to immigrants and aging boomers.
Youth masses are pretty good, I've found. But typical sunday morning? It's just a baby boomer circle jerk.
Baby boomers die now!
Wyatt Green
Why don't you join the Society of St. Pius X? There should be one everywhere in the States. There is a church where I am and I'm in Georgia.
Jose Fisher
This is really just an american/western problem.
Sadly, it is the African/Asian church, which is fiercely orthodox, that will keep the Church together.
Ethan Morgan
Those aren't real Catholics. They are baptised savages.
Asher Bennett
This page is a good summary: >No matter the case as to the exact nature of the documents in themselves and how they may have been intended to have been read, it is a fact that the ambiguities have been exploited in a revolutionary way. This revolutionary attitude -- often called "the spirit of Vatican II" -- has swept through the human element of the Church, leaving destruction and confusion in its wake. How often are Catholics told that "since Vatican II, the Church no longer teaches/practices/believes" various aspects of Catholic doctrine? How often are we told this even by priests? fisheaters.com/traditionalcatholicism.html
Adrian Richardson
This, they are worldwide but in small cells, there's almost one per state in the US
Hudson Morgan
Good goy!
Easton Gray
Fuck off and die coward cuck
Brayden Brown
It's heresy
Chase Green
Some would say the opposite for what the Church is after 1970.
Daniel Evans
You're deluded if you think the church will survive the reign of Francis, or that the gates of Hell have not prevailed against it, or that it will ever again look as it did 100 years ago
David Richardson
A universal faith, maybe, but not a supranational government. At least it never has in the past. If that's what has been subtly or overtly promoted since the 1960s then it is a major mistake for the church.
Cameron Baker
No
Connor Martin
And as always, or at least since the 17th century, the main culprit is the grave sin of Liberalism:
"Hence we find Liberalism laying down as the basis of its propaganda the following principles:
XXXIII. The absolute sovereignty of the individual in his entire independence of God and God's authority.
XXXIV. The absolute sovereignty of society in its entire independence of everything which does not proceed from itself. (18)
XXXV. Absolute civil sovereignty in the implied right of the people to make their own laws in entire independence and utter disregard of any other criterion than the popular will expressed at the polls and in parliamentary majorities.
XXXVI.Absolute freedom of thought in politics, morals, or in religion. The unrestrained liberty of the press.
Such are the radical principles of Liberalism. In the assumption of the absolute sovereignty of the individual, that is, his entire independence of God, we find the common source of all the others. To express them all in one term in the order of ideas, they are RATIONALISM or the doctrine of the absolute sovereignty of human reason. Here human reason is made the measure and sum of truth. Hence we have individual, social and political Rationalism, the corrupt fountain head of liberal principles: absolute freedom of worship, the supremacy of the State, secular education repudiating any connection with religion, marriage sanctioned and legitimatized by the State alone, etc.; in one word, which synthesizes all, SECULARIZATION, which denies religion any active intervention in the concerns of public and of private life (19) whether it orate or assassinate; whether it call itself Liberty or Government or the State or Humanity or Reason, or what not, its fundamental characteristic is an uncompromising opposition to the Church." liberalismisasin.com/chapter2.htm
Dominic Anderson
The church has been in absolute exlicit heresy since the Council of Trent, which condemned the ancient actual teachings of Jesus Christ and his apostles.
Joshua Nelson
He's a jew sleeper agent
Owen Parker
Yes. It has made it's goal the extermination of Christians and white people.
Charles Evans
So you have a disagreement with a bishop, cry me a river.
Nicholas Nelson
The cathocucks church are the gates of hell friend , there has never been anything more cancer then the cathocuck church
Jonathan Morales
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William Murphy
No, the Church's stance has always been a form of localism: >Subsidiarity is a principle of social organization that originated in the Roman Catholic Church. In its most basic formulation, it holds that social and political issues should be dealt with at the most immediate (or local) level that is consistent with their resolution. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subsidiarity
Brandon Fisher
True
Charles Cruz
>The pagan influence fallacy is committed when one charges that a particular religion, belief, or practice is of pagan origin or has been influenced by paganism and is therefore false, wrong, tainted, or to be repudiated. In this minimal form, the pagan influence fallacy is a subcase of the genetic fallacy, which improperly judges a thing based on its history or origins rather than on its own merits (e.g., "No one should use this medicine because it was invented by a drunkard and adulterer").
>Very frequently, the pagan influence fallacy is committed in connection with other fallacies, most notably the post hoc ergo proper hoc ("After this, therefore because of this") fallacy—e.g., "Some ancient pagans did or believed something millennia ago, therefore any parallel Christian practices and beliefs must be derived from that source." Frequently, a variant on this fallacy is committed in which, as soon as a parallel with something pagan is noted, it is assumed that the pagan counterpart is the more ancient. This variant might be called the similis hoc ergo propter hoc ("Similar to this, therefore because of this") fallacy. catholic.com/tracts/is-catholicism-pagan
Jonathan Ward
Because much like Obama, Pope Frannie the Foot Fetishist is a muslim imposter disguised as a Christian. He's a thousandfold more devoted to Islam than Christianity; after every terrorist attack, this pig insists on washing muslim male feet and sucking on them. Also, this Chef-Boyardee-looking fraud keeps nagging Europe to take in more muslims (in spite of the record-setting rape epidemics), the papal pig spends so much time kissing Qurans and praying in mosques, that creature is the personification of Catholics' Cancer.
Elijah Brown
Oh, no Catholicism wasn't influenced by paganism. The reason for the similarities is it's the same Devil now as it was then.
Julian White
That was the counter-reformation and spawning of the Jesuits which in hindsight leaves no question as to what the church of Rome wants and has always wanted. To rule all the world, the Jesuits are a military and banking order not a religious order. Don't be fooled by the current puppet. He was actually a child trafficker from South America and is a simple PR underling of the Jesuit General in Rome. Most Catholics have no clue just how evil their church has been over the last few hundred years. It not only fomented both world wars but most of the war of Europe over that time along with the American civil war and many many others. It is a death cult really.
Cooper Thompson
Thanks bro!
Xavier Jones
I am a little bit smarter having read this. Thank you.
Austin Price
>For the first time since the 1400s a pope has resigned >Pope after is the biggest cuck known to man, shilling for the globalist elite Really made me think
Jace Barnes
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Anthony Sanders
I know the church was evil long before Trent, but the council was the official adoption of heresy and condemnation of Christianity.
Connor Sullivan
Didn't St. Malachy and Nostradamus predicted that he would be the last pope? I don't particularly believe in prophecy, but seeing the way Bergoglio is conducting things, I wouldn't be surprised if it led to some sort of destruction of the Church.
Ethan Thompson
Rome is the church of satan.
Cameron Parker
Again, you're committing a fallacy, because even if some practices could be linked to those of pagans, it doesn't follow that therefore they are pagan. God is the one who is being worshiped in the end, after all, and not some false god from the heathen pantheon. Is the Gospel of John "pagan" because it equates Jesus with what is originally a pagan concept? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logos Only a very very silly person would think so.
Isaac Hughes
I guarantee the rest of the church is getting tired of his shit.
Aaron Walker
>religion >true Time to grow up, user.
Matthew Peterson
Thanks forr correcting the record with cathocuck sources . It never happend that constantine changed christianity to mix in better with the pagans like the sabath to sunday a day of pagan worship , the trinity doctrine
Wyatt Campbell
>Why is Francis such a raging nigger faggot? Because he's a true-to-form Christian.
Luis Morales
The modernist church is the real heresy here
Marin Luther is Heresy and John Smith is heresy, but don't at any point deny the place of the vatican, Francis may be a heretic, but he's still the real pope
Kevin Stewart
>Again, you're committing a fallacy, because even if some practices could be linked to those of pagans, it doesn't follow that therefore they are pagan. They are pagan because of Polytheism and anti-Christianity. >God is the one who is being worshiped in the end No, Satan is >Is the Gospel of John "pagan" because it equates Jesus with what is originally a pagan concept? >en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logos Logos is a word. It means "word". It is not a concept.
William Sanders
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Aaron Johnson
What's the real reason Pope Benedict XVI stepped down from the position? I read the Wikipedia article which said it was because of his deteriorating health, but could there possibly be something more to it? Was he coerced?
Joshua Thomas
Also, Martin Luther was no heretic.
Jayden Rodriguez
Yes the vatican is ruled by the judeo-sodomite mafia
Jonathan Thompson
Too bad the heretics are those that don't follow Pope Francis, who is adhering to the Bible completely instead of selecting parts he likes and discarding the rest.
Nathaniel Sanchez
>The Roman Catholic Church is the real Church of Christ. You fell for an old European meme. The Catholic Church is the "Synagogue of Satan" referred to in the Book of Revelation.
Matthew Collins
Catholic "Christianity" is not Christianity, it's only called "Christianity".
Catholic "Christianity" is a religion that should be called Papism.
Become a Christian, OP. Leave Papism behind.
Sola fide. Sola gratia.
Brody Young
>Synagogue That automatically makes it the Synagogue of Satan Jewish
Logan Davis
Look at those number (88) Even KEK agrees with me.
Christian Gomez
Amen brother
Kayden Adams
So you're a heretic and a hypocrite?
Henry Morris
No I'm not. KEK is a joke. Kinda like Papism.
Landon Young
Go back to reddít, cuck
Parker Roberts
If cucks are the ones who should go to reddit, then there shouldn't be a single christian on Sup Forums. If you are calling me a cuck incidentally, it can only be because you are projecting. If you are telling me to go to reddit because you believe I would fit there, I'm certain you'll find the highest concentration of blind christcucks like yourself over there, as opposed to rational people such as myself.
Thomas Wilson
The politics of the Catholic Church are not the main problem
The main problem is that its theology is synergistic
The Catholic Church is an institution created to suppress the Gospel
The Pope is the Antichrist
Henry Diaz
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Angel Phillips
The redpilled are the antichrist.
Leo Young
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Jordan Foster
I read this somewhere the other day, but most popes were never canonized and will never be. A number of popes were really bad - fathering children and shit. In short, most popes are not awesome. We just had two really amazing ones so we're lucky in that regard.
I feel you, OP. But you gotta take this as a time of spiritual darkness. Keep going to confession, receiving the sacraments, and praying for church leaders. Especially the pope.
The Church Triumphant is praying with you, too. This will pass, like everything else.
Include me in your prayers, brother, and I'll be keeping you in mine.
Noah Ortiz
He didnt want to go to Brasil for a week.
Cooper Scott
Read the bible.
Luke Mitchell
You don't have to agree with the Church or the Pope on politics. They only have authority on matters of doctrine and morality, and then their teachings are only binding if authoritatively promulgated, like in a Council.