Iceman team has been announced.
Prepare to rage
nerdist.com
Iceman team has been announced.
Prepare to rage
nerdist.com
Pls be Leth.
>it's not Leth
Who the fuck is her?
Bishie Sinister, eh?
>some shit bookwriter
>again
>using a fujoshit instead of a someone whos gay
If i didn't hate this idea enough. I certainly would be more than upset about this.
I was talking about the content of the article no the writer
>gay guy known for semi-autobiographical work
>But just because Bobby Drake is going through this big life change at the moment (an even more profound change when it happens later in life than when you are an adolescent), he’s still going to be the wisecracker we’ve known for years. Ketchum said, “We’re not going to lose sight that Bobby’s always been the comic relief, funny and jokey character. He’s not a ‘Gold Star Gay’ [a gay person who has never had heterosexual relationships]. So we’re going to be seeing a funny moment where he sees one of his exes. I really want Sina to put in the line, ‘So what was I, just your beard?’ There’s going to be an acknowledgement of it, but it’s gonna be played off in the tone that Bobby usually does. But Sina will bring a real authenticity to it.”
I am sure this book will have a strong hook and won't just be about Bobby being gay ;^)
I only looked at first paragraph and cover.
Sina Grace is a man and a comics-writer, baby. How do you not take 2 seconds to check that out?
whelp, they can have bobby now. im done giving a shit
because i just wanted to shitpost.
Iceman Date Sim? Which one of these genocidal assholes will be wooed by the Omega-level hunk? Find out on I Love New Drake!
>go to writers twitter
>profile pic
not even surprised
>tfw X-threads became shitpost centrals
Number of DLCs involved?
why?
Sina Grace is pretty good.
Alessandro Vitti is a decent artist (not at all who I expected on this but w/e)
>Iceman x Mystique in a man's body
At least that would be original, yo.
ICEMAN IS NOT GAY
Yeah.
Of course he isn't.
He's full gay.
>is a comic about Iceman problems as a gay
I cant wait for Jaen Grey book by Kate Leth
I would unironically read bobby drake in a gay dating gameshow with three super villians.
>the future is female
At least they're addressing Bendis's fuck up and acknowledging the relationships he had with girls.
Still feels wrong, instantly changing a character with a long history of being a ladies man with absolutely no signs of being gay into being gay.
It'd only be a worthwhile story if he discovered he was factually straight, because I can't ever recall an instance in which the subject of a character's sexuality was raised and it landed on straight as opposed to gay or bi-but-really-gay.
It's so nice of Marvel to have made Iceman into a character I genuinely hate, or else I might have actually been tempted by an Iceman solo book.
Thanks, faggotry, for saving me money.
Bendis's children can't be orphans soon enough.
The slogan is right, though.
Future brings nothing but unhappiness, sadness and death.
i wouldn't mind just bi but yeah. its so retarded.
Is it about teenage Iceman from the past or adult Iceman from current time?
Did they ever address what adult Iceman thinks of his younger self suddenly turning gay?
You realise the adult Iceman is gay too now right?
adult.
in the epilogue to Bendis' run (that came out like 6 months after his run ended) they did something like having the youngBobby and jean confront adultBobby, and he just kinda cried and admitted that being gay and a mutant was too hard, so he tried to just be a mutant.
>Did they ever address what adult Iceman thinks of his younger self suddenly turning gay
It turned him gay
What? Admitely it's been a long time since I've read anything with him on it but he was dating Kitty before she fucked off to space?
How did current time Iceman figure out he was gay? Did he talk to his past self and went "guess I'm gay now"? Are they petending he has always been gay? What the fuck is happening?
>Iceman's first solo
Didn't he have two runs that lasted four issues each?
minis
What the fuck? This is terrible writing, how's Bendis allowed to get away with this shit?
It was really weird that Bendis just didn't make him bisexual. He still gets SJW points and gets to be consistent with continuity.
It's almost like he gets off from screwing up continuity.
Plot:
Iceman buys an ice-cream truck which he calls the ICEVAN and travels around the country selling ice-cream, battling villains and solving droughts and shit with his Inhuman boyfriend Romeo. Series ends abruptly when Northstar is punched into the Earth at a substantial portion of lightspeed and totals the van. Bobby never speaks to him again.
Snapshots:
Hel is overheating, so the Norns team up with a pagan Neo-Nazi group in an attempt to kill Bobby and send him to the Viking underworld so he can keep it eternally frosty
The ICEVAN's freezer unit becomes possessed by the ghost of Jack Chick
Bobby gets into a fight with a drought-causing mutant in Texas but when freezing all the nearby water accidentally breaks the already-overloaded storm drain system. Can he possibly raise enough money to fund the necessary repairs only through selling ice cream?
Bobby's powers are being leached through time by a mysterious time traveler to cause the 1936 North American cold wave
Bobby signs an advertising contract for a beer company marketed on having "a cold one". The campaign is phenomenally successfully and he goes half-mad seeing his face everywhere every second of the day and has to figure out how to void the contract through industrial sabotage
Romeo stars as Romeo in an amdram performance of the Shakespeare play, but something strange is happening that drives him to act more and more like an authentic 16th century Italian bravo
ceman finds himself being hunted by Abominable Snowwomen
Bobby teams up with Wiccan and Hulking to prevent a cluster of meteors hitting the Earth but while having a celebratory drink afterwards Iceman makes a faux pas and says something that causes them to split. Forever, no takebacks
Co-written by the author of TJ and Amal
He was hiding it his entire life. :^) Yes, including during his love triangle with Polaris and through his many hetero relationships, he was thinking "Boy, I sure could go for some cock, right now"
>only just now realises Bendis is a terrible writer
Yes, yes, not pretending, he's gay now. He's had a late in life coming out, that's the canon now.
So what villains will he be fighting? I doubt it'll be everyone on the cover.
>Did he talk to his past self and went "guess I'm gay now"?
Pretty much, yeah.
Those were mini series.
I mean, this will be too, once it sells what it will, but it's intended to be an ongoing about Bobby Drake's Adventures in Mansex.
>We’re not in the business of pulling something out of nowhere and slapping it on to a character so he fits some quota
Holy shit, the editor of this comic is literally lying to my face.
Obviously he'll be fighting a fully human version of Ares' demigod son.
>The ICEVAN's freezer unit becomes possessed by the ghost of Jack Chick
At this point bi is the best we could hope for and honestly, I can't figure why they didn't just go for that angle. There are plenty of gay X-Men but hardly any bisexual. And besides, it gives the fujoushis and crack shippers what they want with Iceman wanting dick while not taking away from his history
>We’re not in the business of pulling something out of nowhere and slapping it on to a character so he fits some quota, or for the sake of telling some story. This had to come from somewhere, and it did.
I'd read these
>Editor says there have been fan theories about Iceman being gay that informed this decision
Letting fan theories tell you what to do aside, is that even true? I never heard about it.
Because a character being gay is basically the snowflake of comics. God help you if you try to disagree with even the suggestion, you'll be known as a homophobe for the rest of your career and beyond. Notice how many writers fell in line with saying they thought of him as gay after Bendis write it
I would forgive almost everything about the recent X-Men if they made Jean the amoral self-obsessed supervillain she was born to be.
CBR forums. The sole reason why Bendis made Iceman gay.
I would bet money on the real thing not being nearly as entertaining as these.
Yeah, it's true. Hint: everything is justifiable if you take shipping as justification.
I want to see Jean getting rekt.
Hope received more shit for being much less of a bitch.
>using a fujoshit instead of a someone whos gay
I don't know if the writer is gay, but it's this guy writing it, not a fujoshi novelist.
Forgot the picture...
>Riri appreciation thread
>"do we know her orientation?"
Sometimes I wonder why I go there, desu.
Welp, time to stop pushing my personal agenda of Dormammu x Shuma Gorath into writer's Twitters.
How anyone likes Pichelli's art is beyond me.
I don't dislike it, but there is absolutely no appeal.
It's such a great set-up, isn't it? I have faith that once this bullshit blows over, they'll pull the trigger on that.
Well in X-Men Blue she's gonna be coached by former mutant terrorist supremo Magneto.
I love how entitled people act about character's sexuality now. Like that guy who asked Waid on Twitter how many of the Champions are LGBT. Not IF ANY, not WHO, HOW MANY.
...
>Xavier gazing on in the background
>Xavier was behind mind-controlling Iceman to be gay all along
>Jean only finished it
W O W
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DEEPEST LORE
And Blue and Gold X-teams are so boringly white.
He's not hollering and slobbering over some girl that just showed up, what a huge faggot. Later on he hits on Jean too.
Sure, but that's a deliberate throw, right? You ask in that way because the answers are "none" or "a number" and "none" isn't a permissible answer.
I don't see anything wrong with it, personally.
That's one handsome Mr. Sinister.
Waid answered "Keep reading" and would have said the same thing no matter how it was asked. If the guy was banking on Waid being unwilling to publicly say there are no gay characters, asking if, who or how many end up the same.
Hope vs. Jean fucking when?
Never ever.
It would be an amazing smack down.
Blue dude. Black chick. Metal man. One lezzie, and her Jewish waifu (not white by many classifications--not trying to start Sup Forums shit either, honest), and a white senior citizen.
Pretty diverse desu
>no romeo is really sinister playing the long game.
What's Hope been up to recently
I still don't understand how the fuck O5 Iceman is gay and regular Iceman is straight.
That's not how sexuality works at all.
>tfw you will never break into the comics industry because you can't bring yourself into considering shit like this when coming up with a book
But no transracial rockkin, user!
>senior citizen
I wonder how big Logan's pension would be in his timeline.
>I still don't understand how the fuck O5 Iceman is gay and regular Iceman is straight.
they're both gay
No, adult Iceman revealed he was gay his entire life but never came out of the closet when young Iceman confronted him about it.
Yes, I know.
>Storm
>Northstar
>Karma
>some 'onest American, Cannonball, maybe?
Just add two more members and you should check all SJW boxes.
Nothing after Secret Wars (or during iirc).
Last thing anyone saw was her kicking dear ol' dad off of X-Force. Then nothing. Rumor has it that Bunn will be doing something with her during IvX though.
I believe that's Immonem
Who is definitely good at drawing JB
Yea people seem to forget about that second part of how within a few issues, he was joining in on the horndogging for Jean
Oh fuck me. Why is the media so inept at just making a fucking gay character. It's always a publicity stunt and it's always bungled or piggybacking off of something else.
If I was gay I'd be insulted that they lack the talent to make a good gay character and have to retcon shit. If there's a god he'll kill off Iceman.
I can't give away the whole book, user!
Oh, I just checked. That's Asrar
Guys just tell me... Is there ANY chance Cable & Generation X will have any good teams? These teams announced so far give me despair
Is it?
If so my mistake, in either case the colorist phoned it in, and if it is Immomen, I'm a tad surprised because Grawbadger(sp.?) and Martin/Molina usually do a much better job.
I like how they say there was YEARS of evidence but can't site anything. TRUST ME GUYS THERE WAS EVIDENCE. LOTS OF IT. ALL THE EVIDENCE POINTED TOWARDS IT.
It's like Trump in a debate.
Meanwhile we have actual factual history of Bobby in loving happy relationships with women.
And it makes even less sense because we've seen Bobby in private times. His internal thoughts. Comics always deal with a character's issues in ways that only the reader knows about.
Spurrier/Bachalo on Cable is the only chance.
Unfortunately, we'll get Land, and no Spurrier.
Hopeless will probably be on Gen X so kekekekeke
Hopeless waits for his favorite GenX characters to write!
Nah, nigga. Bendis says all his relationships were shitty because he was always craving cock, roll with it.
The funny thing was Liu did an arc about Bobby and his various relationships not too long before "fuck it he's gay" happened.
>And if you even just look at his powers, it’s always just sort of been there, for the entire history of the Marvel universe.
ICE IS FOR QUEERS
LOOK AT HIM. HE'S A BIG SNOW DICK.
THE COLOR OF SEMEN.
Even funnier thing is that Liu can't say what she really thinks about Icefag because she'd get boot faster than you can say "Brian Michael Bendis loves black men".
because people spend money on things he writes
I'm not gay but this whole debacle and handling off Bobby feels insensitive as fuck.
>And if you even just look at his powers, it’s always just sort of been there, for the entire history of the Marvel universe.
This reeks of "I only know X-Men from the movies and there was that line about "Have you tried to stop being a mutant?" in the second one.
Hopefully she shows up in one of the other ResurrXion books
but she don't work for Marvel anymore...
Bisexuality is also the second most common sexuality in both sexes according to most reports, so it should be more common in comics than it is right now.
Then what do I know.
Filthy Trinityshipper detected.