Anyone else excited about the upcoming entertainment industry crash? When do you think it's going to happen? What do you think is going to come from it?
I think it'll be in the early 2020's and that content will be produced on smaller budgets for niche audiences, while once again emphasizing quality with no need to sacrifice it for mass appeal. I also believe the 10's will be remembered as the mass entertainment industry's tailspin into oblivion.
spergburger and lucas said it was supposed to happen already
I don't think Hollywood is a real business.
I think it will have to prosecuted, or possibly expelled. It won't 'crash'.
It's definitely happening right now. Eventually, ticket prices are going to be too high or people will just quit giving a shit, giving the studios no incentive to produce this kind of content anymore.
This. (((Hollywood))) has enough shekels in reserve to keep churning out their propaganda ad infinitum. It's probably even subsidized by the feds honestly.
I believe it's being expelled now. Regardless of where you stand on the political spectrum, celebrities being used as an obvious political weapon last year came off as tacky and disingenuous. Judging by rapidly declining sales of both music and visual media, I think that idea of celebrity is starting to die/change. A crash would take the form of studios closing or restructuring.
Nah. Money onto itself isn't real. They're going to keep making this garbage whether anyone watches it or not. It's about the perception of reality. They'll just make up some box office #s or ratings, and hire armies of shills to infiltrate social media. They already do that.
>It's probably even subsidized by the feds honestly.
Wouldn't the feds want to pull their money out of media that people (especially impressionable young people) aren't consuming and move towards internet-based media?
They're already doing that. It's even better for them. The platforms themselves are rigged.
Money itself is real enough. They're going to have to get that money to produce that content from somewhere, as it's very expensive to produce and market. If there's no demand, then it will no longer be produced.
I'm not doubting that they would produce garbage, but it will become smaller-budget, internet based garbage for a niche audience.
They probably put money in both, however Hollywood has the advantages of being relatively centralized and therefore easier to control as well as already being a global brand.
Aren't people in general moving away from those platforms?
>Money itself is real enough. They're going to have to get that money to produce that content from somewhere,
what is it that you think money is based on?
Are they? TV, print, and movie theaters are obviously dying.
You think controlled tech platforms like Twitter, Facebook, Reddit etc are too?
>what is it that you think money is based on?
Value, ie what someone is willing to pay for something. I imagine you would prefer that it were some sort of tangible commodity and if you do, I agree. But everyone involved with producing and marketing needs to get paid so they can eat and pay rent.
I don't have any studies to back this up but it seems that people discuss the big platforms' censorship and surveillance more often than they used to.
you don't think there is value in propaganda or social engineering?
Yeah, idk. I'm an oldfag. If young people are beginning not to trust the internet, that's a very good thing.
>you don't think there is value in propaganda or social engineering?
There's definitely value in social engineering, that's why Hollywood will be allowed to crash, so the financiers of the social engineering move to social media.
>If young people are beginning not to trust the internet, that's a very good thing.
I'm 22, it seems like young people, even in big liberal cities, are starting to distrust big media as well as some of the new platforms.
Yes, if I had it my way I'd line up every fuck in Hollywood and mow them down with a machinegun
Why not individually peel off their skin, dip their bodies in vats of lemon juice, then drive them out into the desert and crucify them in the hot sun?
Serious talk
This is why Hollywood is so leftist. They want Government subsidization, as based off of...
>arts subsidy, like NEA
>contribution to the economy
They will never get that from a Republican or conservative, but left leaning politicians are happy to oblige. Dems will give subsidies, and actors/directors/producers will donate to Pelosi types big league.
With Hollywood crashing, and China rapidly buying up studios and Californian realestate, you will start seeing overt calls for the US Taxpayer to support Hollywood soon, you know, for the good of humanity/economy.
DISINFO
complete nonsense.
Hollywood exists to sell a version of current events to keep the monetary system in place.
>With Hollywood crashing, and China rapidly buying up studios and Californian realestate, you will start seeing overt calls for the US Taxpayer to support Hollywood soon, you know, for the good of humanity/economy.
Kek, I can't wait
I can't wait until a software is released that lets people make photorealistic movies with perfect CGI from the comfort of their own computers. Hollywood will choke big time.
You grossly overestimate Governmnet
I work with the Federal Government.
>They still send faxes.
>Employees are literally unaccountable for mistakes.
>They don't even follow their own guidelines
The idea of getting ahead of the times, or any real thoughts of the future are beyond their abilities.
Hmm, good point. Still, doesn't that mean they're producing propaganda that less and less people will actually consume per year? What's going to happen when people just stop going?
Hollywood isn't "so leftist". The film industry in general is rather left-wing. There aren't many good right-wing directors.
disinfo?
You need help. Read a newspaper.
Bingo
I'm ignorant, but who is it who determines which projects receive funding? Why do they overwhelmingly skew leftist? For all we know, there are many good right wing directors who just don't get funding for their projects, because it was never about quality.
>You need help
straight from the shill handbook. Should I take off my tinfoil hat? Take my meds?
Fuck off.
I'm excited about all the Jews who will lose everything and the B-and-below-list actresses who will get into porn.
I won't lie, every time I hear about movies flopping and studios losing revenue, I rejoice.
Even more so when tv is losing audience and their ratings plummet.
I practically visit Sup Forums only for this.
I just hate the entertainment industry too much.
Art b8
you can stop samefagging
Holywood is centralized and controlled.
It 'skews' (kek) left because it's ultimate goal is to condition/soften society so Hollywood's bankster owners can get away with more and more.
But you know that.
Me too for every single thing you said.
I was thinking of starting a website/place of discussion dedicated solely to this. Would you be interested in helping start something like this?
The government, its institution or private investors. Usually all three.
Just to add, I think turning this mentality into an actual movement will help expedite the process. It could be marketed as a great cataclysmic social event and play off growing hatred for celebrities, as well as sincere speculation for a renaissance in entertainment.
Wjats the differance between "hollywood" and "the film industry". Granted, I'm just bullshitting at work, but for the sake of the thread, these terms seem interchangeable to me.
They pretty much are interchangeable.
'Indie' cinema is 99% of the time nothing more than bullshit marketing.
>Wjats the differance between "hollywood" and "the film industry"
USA is not the only country in the world.
Now this is an edgy teenage power fantasy if ive ever seen one
New Hollywood will be in western Europe. Cheap land and warehouses to do special effects and motion capture. Its already happening.
>There aren't many good right-wing directors
That's because there aren't many right-wing directors allowed into the industry in the first place.
Funny how open and active discrimination against half the population leads to a lower level of talent from said half of the population. Now ignore the fact that right-wing directors tend to have better rates of return on their projects or the fact right leaning shows tend to have larger audiences.
Prolly in 3 or less years, as more and more Americans upgrade to having near movie theater quality home theater setups what's gonna be the point of paying 16 bucks for one movie that you might not even like. Movies used to be a fun thing to do, now they're like some nice night out thing that puts a huge hole in your wallet, fuck the shitty theaters let them all burn
Yea man, totally, after Robert downey Jr. Appeared in an ad for Hillary Clinton, it totally spelled out the end of all big budget action movies, totally
No, I know a fuck ton of actors and artists. None super famous, but odds are you've seen a few on tv shoes and movies.
if you don't think that every drama major/arts major in college sits around with their friends and thinks that they should have special "creative spaces" built for them so they can focus on their art, and not be dragged down by the petty and mind numbing drudgery of everyday life, you don't know many artists.
They think they are a special class of free thinkers, and their contribution to society elevates them above the rabble. They aren't always dicks or anything, but observe how high profile artists (music, film, theater, painters, etc) talk about anyone who didn't vote for democrat.
There is nothing new here. This is an old story.
>Cheap land and warehouses to do special effects and motion capture
You'll never beat Canada on that front, which is probably why so many American movies and shows are already filmed in Vancouver, Toronto and Montreal.
lol, I love how jealous non Americans are.
Sorry that when our President talks, everyone listens, and when your PM/king/dictator talks, it doesn't even make page 17 in the NYT
get a better country
ffs no, we have already enough subversive assholes as it is.
We don't need a Hollywood sized industry of them.
No one is talking about physical theaters shill
Hollywood is already crashing, just look at how much lower the box office return was this summer compared to last (something like a full 10% less revenue).
China and Russia are the only markets in the world that didn't shrink this year, and both are not sustainable given Russia's population issue and China's economic bubble. Every blockbuster either underperformed compared to expectations or outright flopped, with the only exception being Dunkirk.
The industry is in decline, and there's no reversing it.
>jealous
Another American retard. I'm saying that European directors are even more left-wing than Hollywood directors. Asian directors also aren't exactly right-wing.
>European Directors
Like the world needs more documentaries on why refugges are welcome and why hitler was bad
>asian directors
Yeah, I've seen one Jackie Chan movie, so I've essentially seen em all.
You think
a. Hollywood doesn't export?
b. this social engineering system isn't in place in Europe and Asia?
You can fuck off shill. Try a little subtlety next time.
Hollywood is considered boring and conservative in Europe.
what about when 3d scanning and mapping makes actors irrelevant and the consumer gets to play casting director
Please. There are plenty of plebs gobbling up capeshit in Europe too.
>smaller budgets
Game of Thrones still has a big budget.
As long as many people now currently in their late teens and older have money to watch have a decent amount of money to spend on a streaming service, then it might still be profitable to make shows/movies with that high of a budget. With people that are in the young teens and younger now, many of them might grow up watching much less tv and possibly streaming movies and tv shows; so it might be more questionable whether they will pay as much for streaming shows and movies. So that might have an effect on budgets and the market for stuff in the future. Maybe I'm wrong about them not being as interested in movies that are streaming as earlier people of the same age at a different time. I'm not sure.
Hollywood stands on the back of movie theaters, you retard
Bwahahaha.....
Yeah, no. 20 years ago maybe.
awww, international bantz upset you?
I'm guessing British, Canadian, or an effeminate American.
I'm talking about festival/art circles.
>money to spend on a streaming service, then it might still be profitable to make shows/movies with that high of a budget
Given how much of a hole Netflix is in, I doubt it
Hollywood isn't a real business
Stop shilling bullshit
Artists don't think they're a special class of people, they just want spaces dedicated to making art because anyone who does something for a living would love to have a place dedicated to doing that thing, that's just common sense. It's inspiring to see other artists getting lost in their work, that's what makes college so special.
The problem is retards like you that go around thinking all artists are up their own ass like the only artist that exists is the super conceited and self centered kind
Also, Hillary is an evil white bitch but donald trump is a retarded choice for president, that's why retarded people voted for him. Anyone who supported or still supports donald and tries to deny their stupidity is in deep denial.
>the problem with artists is they think supporting a president that defunded the shit out of arts and humanities programs makes you a stupid asshole
Get fucked, dick head
We have that too. But it's not mainstream.
Fuck off shill. You stick out like a sore thumb here.
Are you implying ticket sales don't make a significant amount of money for huge Hollywood blockbusters?
there will be no crash you dumbfuck
>people are tired of remakes
no, all the top 10 of the highest grossing films are remakes, reboots, sequels. the only reason why some big budget films flopped because there are too many of them. so, hollywood will make less, or just put them in the different part of the year.
what is happening, is the disappearance of mid-budget films like The Nice Guys. It flopped, so the studios will not make them again. It's either the big budget films nowadays, or the indie flicks for 1 million or 5 million dollars (or horror garbage that always makes money, even the bye bye man)
Who the fucks knows?
You and I both only know what's reported by the corrupt press.
I do know they're practically begging people to go to the cinemas. The existence of things like that Moviepass card speaks volumes though.
Yes but who will take the place of Hollywood after it crashes and burns?
Will they bring KINO back to the table?
Your info is a few years out of date, the entire industry is bleeding money, returns are down and the market is shrinking.
Political endorsements I think have little to do with it, but rather the growth of internet usage and people dying due to old age or getting too old to be able to easily leave their house to go to the theater due to their health and not finding less of what is in theaters appealing due to them getting older than most people in America and thus the majority of movies not being aimed at them.
There are plenty of people on youtube/instagram/twitter that people read and watch that give political endorsements.
It's the ENTIRE media that's the problem.
Not just Hollywood.
>t who will take the place of Hollywood after it crashes and burns?
Video games and the internet, though ironically Netflix is almost assured to not be on the list given its financial problems
Again, we're not talking about physical theaters.
Stop trying to spin it.
>fake news
Holy shit you're retarded
How do you think Hollywood gets its money, dumbfuck
Fuck off.
All of that shitis the same controlled garbage as Hollywood.
It's official. The shills areitt.
Jews always win
look at the latest election. They manipulated a bunch of anti-semites into voting for a flaming zionist crypto-jew
Hollywood isn't a real business shill.
Read thethread.
>read the uneducated opinions and hypotheses made by unemployed NEETs in this thread
Loool
several movie studios have combined with tv show producers and have the combined rights to tv show and movie archives. some of what Netflix has spent money on was running the business as it got more popular and spending money making shows/moives. possibly, some studios could get in the market while avoid spending as much on these things due to the idea having become more accepted and already having shows/movies made in the past, including ones that were quite popular in the past.
Everyday I hope and pray for Kimmy-kun to nuke LA.
>possibly, some studios could get in the market while avoid spending as much on these things due to the idea having become more accepted and already having shows/movies made in the past, including ones that were quite popular in the past.
Like what Disney is doing with their streaming service? The one they're making since buying out Netflix simply isn't worth it given it's not likely to survive to see 2022?
*As long as many people now currently in their late teens and older have money to watch have a decent amount of money to spend on a streaming service, then it might still be profitable to make shows/movies with that high of a budget. With people that are in the young teens and younger now, many of them might grow up watching much less tv and possibly even less movies and tv shows even if they are streamed; so it might be more questionable whether they will pay as much for streaming shows and movies. So that might have an effect on budgets and the market for stuff in the future. Maybe I'm wrong about them not being as interested in movies even if they are streaming as earlier people of the same age at a decade or so prior. I'm not sure.
>holywood will overcome piracy once internet is perfectly centralized
>good guy google will know how many movies you pirated
>good guy gov will pass on laws that forces you into working for free to pay that debt
>if you die your remaining family members will have to pay the debt
>your corpse is property of disney
>they will scan you and use you as cgi disposable extra on every movie
>you will die a thousand deaths
>your kids too
>the popcorn is hot
>you just have to mine it
The cinematic universe thing already represents the nose-dive. The "higher than ever" profits is just the momentary acceleration as the engines shift from working against to working with gravity.
As for what will come next, the death of the studio system represents the death of spending 100-200m for an hour of content. Procedural and dynamic content generation is already happening. it'll only be a matter of years until this can generate compelling content.
So yes, your dreams of seeing all the prime lolis of history engaged in a permanent gangbang will soon come true!
And the shills are here in full force
It was an interesting thread while it lasted real anons.
How is mentioning the fact that Netflix is in so much trouble Disney elected to make their own streaming service instead of buying them like they intended shilling?
Just what in the everloving fuck is supposed to be shilling?
>So yes, your dreams of seeing all the prime lolis of history engaged in a permanent gangbang will soon come true!
Hollywood isn't real.
Disney and Netflix are co-conspirators.
Out before the cavalcade of lies and disinfo.
If that's true why wouldn't Disney just buy Netflix instead of opening its own streaming service and letting Netflix die?
It's a ruse dummy. It's to make it look decentralized.
Real anons...sage and hide this thread at this point.
So they're decentralising... by having one new service pop up and another fall into nothing.
That still leaves 1.
>quoting multiple posts
>calling something "shilling" without understanding the meaning.
M'ladies and true gentlemen a Reddit
>Real anons...sage and hide this thread at this point.
Yep. The first 20 posts or so are what you need to know. It will be shills lying and spinning from here on out.
Its one guy, he is doing this in multiple threads, just quoting people and or calling them shills at random, he doesn't know what shill is.