DC really dropped the ball with Wonder Woman thanks to the Superman/Wonder Woman relationship, huh...

DC really dropped the ball with Wonder Woman thanks to the Superman/Wonder Woman relationship, huh? The character now looks like a huge cunt thanks to it.

First she dumped Steve Trevor, a guy who supported and defended the Justice League in the congress against everyone else, all because she thought he was their liaison only to be closer to her and didn't wanted to feel personally responsible whenever he got hurt.
The same night she locked lips with Superman, an attraction born out of a single exchange between them where she praised him for his super-strength, all because she thought they were alike in nature and consequentially above humanity.
Then the first thing she did after starting her new relationship with Superman was complain about his need of a human disguise because he needed to embrace his godlike nature and try to convince him to invade countries because together nobody could stop them.
Later when Superman started to get constantly sick or weak she started to overprotect as if he was a helpless child, which made him feel emasculated by her and decide to dump her.
Finally now that Superman's dead she's pretty much over him as if their relationship of 5 years was nothing. She even tried to get back with poor Steve by giving an excuse that being with Superman was easier.

When you look at the entire picture she comes off as a self-serving and haughty bitch who changes men like she changes clothes.

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Your mom is a huge cunt.

She's actually really nice.

It was all just a dream

I agree with you, I dislike the wonder woman/superman relationship.

No real opinion on OP's posting, would just like to add this.

Its *rare* to see Diana have any real characterization, an actual personality, in the comics. She is a perfect blank slate, she might as well be carved out of granite. Perfection is *boring* but DC will not let its writers do anything interesting with her.

OP's pic of Diana taking a selfie with a statue of Athena is cute, its personable, its human. I've read entire runs of WW that were drier than that single pic.

(Athena is her sister in current continuity? Or at least half-sister?)

>OP's pic of Diana taking a selfie with a statue of Athena is cute, its personable, its human. I've read entire runs of WW that were drier than that single pic.
She also looks fucking obnoxious.

>When you look at the entire picture she comes off as a self-serving and haughty bitch who changes men like she changes clothes.

So she has adapted to the lifestyle of the modern woman, then?

But in all seriousness, classic Wonder Woman who was a kindhearted and gentle woman who knew when to throw down is long gone, I last saw her in the DCAU, and as they are borrowing a lot, maybe the DCEU once her apathy is eaten away.

Even with the Rebirth stuff she comes off as a cunt.

Look, sure, end the SM/WW thing, but at least take the time to show WW dealing with the fallout in an mini or annual. The whole salted earth approach isn't helping the character.

They should have shown WW grieving about the loss, imagining about the what ifs, remembering the things both did wrong, trying to make her peace with the future and so on.

Well, I find selfies to be largely pointless and often narcissistic myself, sticking your tongue out is goofy and at least as bad as making a duckface.

I guess thats what I like about the pic. "Hey, look, Diana isn't an emotionless block of stone, shes actually human with good and bad traits"

The thing about Steve which i found odd is that the dude has been a soldier his entire life. It's what he does. It's what he knows. The dude was a soldier before meeting her and he kept being a soldier after being dumped by her.

So to dump him because she feared about his well-being and thought him being far away would help is pretty dumb. He'd still keep working and fighting as a soldier.

The way it looked like she just didn't wanted to feel responsible for his eventual death, not that he'd die fighting at all. She just didn't wanted to be doing something related to her so she wouldn't feel guilty.

That... is egotistical and selfish as fuck.

>she might as well be carved out of granite
Well that's because she's pretty much just that, except it's clay

>I last saw her in the DCAU
DCAU WW was not kind and gentle. She had the same "BADASS TOUGH GIRL" personality that all female characters have these days.

Nah that was Hawkgirl

It was both of them. Hawkgirl was a bit rowdier, and WW was more stern.

But they were still generic.

On the flip side, I do like this concept of Diana as well. If she isn't going to be allowed to be human then take it to the next logical step and make her completely cold and emotionless. Or let her fill the Red Tornado/Vision role of the non-human yearning and striving to be human.

But don't tell me flesh-and-blood Diana is the very embodiment of love and compassion when she never emotes. Go one way or the other, DC. Human emotions, both good and bad. Or cold marble.

Eh, perhaps, but she was still better in personality than her comic counterpart, and she was tender enough with Bruce.

I find it hilarious that this was the start of the ULTIMATE POWER COUPLE romance.

1/4.

2/4.

They were actually at a loss for what to do with wonder woman because they wanted to give here hawkgirl's personality, but already had hawkgirl, so they just left her as a sort of bland, discount hawkgirl

Who thought this characterization for a super-heroine who's supposed to be likable was good?

3/4.

Because you ship her with Batman, you filthy cartoonfag.

She doesn't even show any care for the poor old injured dude. She was going right back to flirting before being BTFO by Superman once again.

She was pretty much Nu52 Maxima here in all but name and design.

4/4.

I don't recall any tenderness.

She was always serious and stonefaced. Not exactly a warm and welcoming woman.

She smiled and giggled every so often, most when she was flirting with the batdick

Turning her into a lifeless statue would be the perfect metaphor for DC's treatment of the character

Let's be honest, DC dropped the ball big on the SM/WW relationship.

They had Wonder Woman as the distant and brutish warrior bitch that constantly tempted Superman to rise above humanity, while Superman was his still wholesome self who had the headache of constantly dealing with her shit.

Legend of WW is best WW

jesus christ, this is the person they gave a compassion ring to?

They wouldn't be able to generate any drama between them otherwise. Two compassionate characters together would just be boring if not sickeningly sweet

It was the love ring, because of her love for Batman

That's the biggest problem with the SM/WW thing, be it in a romantic pairing or merely in a partnership dynamic.

They're too much alike. They're both two dedicated and compassionate do-gooders who believe in a better tomorrow and strive to inspire people to be better in their roles as role models.

So when they're together one of them must be twisted to serve as a foil for the other, be the bad cop to the other's good cop, and since Superman's DC's Mickey Mouse and Wonder Woman has the whole amazon background she's usually the one that ends up twisted.

This is also why Superman and Batman work so well, since Batman as a character is already meant to be full of character flaws. So very little of Batman is changed and any bad changes the character can take it since one bad portrayal won't damage him.

I happen to like sickeningly sweet pairings

DC cooooould do them as that, but they don't, which is fucking stupid. You don't need to turn Wonder Woman into a Female Fury for her to work in a relationship with Superman.

The Batman Beyond comics fucking sucked. They had DCAU Wonde Woman be stranded in the Justice Lord's universe for some dumb reason and have a clone-baby with Justice Lord Superman who in the comic was merely evil as fuck. She was also battle-hardened and cold as fuck, because of course why not.

I wish Legend of WW was the current main canon. That comic was sooo fucking nice and got so many things out of WW right. I'm also starting to believe that Steve Trevor only works as a charming WII soldier. It just adds this heart whelming "doomed romance" quality to it.

WW was the naive newcomer in JL. One would think at a glance J'onn would be filling that role but with Batman's constant absence the role of Stoic loner was open.
Then in JLU WW had more of a mentor role.

She was a serious and dutiful Starfire.

Naw that is just fucked up writing. Inconsistent. Steve was a whiny asshole who wanted a girl just out of her teens to stay with him. She can dump him if she wants. She was moving on like any normal woman maturing. No need to guilt her in staying with the first man she meets. The Superman relationship was handled better than Steve under Soule. Diana was very supportive of Superman while with him. So don't even try to blame the relationship. It's Rucka who makes the character seem a shallow bitch now who is willing to suck Steve's face when Superman has not yet died. You can argue about bad writing but not about the character's motivations and relationships. Wonder Woman relationship with Superman has prob been th ebest she's ever been represented in an actual relationship for years. They actually explored stuff before they killed the guy. Before this all we had was boring Steve Trevor who is a mansel. Then she wets for self for Batman for no good reason and who treats her like shit and actually could not be assed to date her because Gothan and Catwoman were his interests. The we had some boring stupid love interests like Trevor Barnes who ended up dead. Then Nemesis who Diana treated like crap under Gail Simone. She basically used him.

The Superman/Wonder Woman romance simply needed time committed to it. Time DC did not give it. We back now to damsels in distress. Which frankly is boring.

Peter J Tomasi was sent to destory the Superman Wonder Woman relationship built by Soule. The guy tried to retcon their meeting as well. This was not how they originally met. So don't blame Tomasi's shitty writing. You want to read a decent Superman/Wonder Woman? It's Charles Soule and Diana was pretty strong and capable in terms of how she was presented.

I remember one scene in the beginning of that one episode where she got turned into a pig by Circe where she basically BTFO'd Batman's argument for why they couldn't be together and at the end of the episode where she whistles the song that Batman sang in order to convince Circe to turn her back into a human.

There was also her interactions with that princess who married Vandel Savage in that one two parter episode.

She also decides to mend her relationship with Hawkgirl, even if she still didn't like her for betraying the planet but in all honesty, she wasn't exactly out of line for not trusting her.

Then that one episode where her, supes, bats, and GL were turned into kids.


Overall, DCAU had a lot of tender moments, it's just that they weren't thrown into your face and developed slowly over time.

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No, she really wasn't.

The JL/U WW was written like a teenager crushing on Batman. And she never even dated anyone so Bats prob be the first man she was interested in. That relationship would have been doomed to fail too if Batman had been interested because 1. she is too naive and has no clue about relationships. 2, Batman was not that into her. 3. It was forced.
So forced that in the Batman Beyond book that Diana did not hook up with Batman she chased. Nope she world hopped and hooked up with another Batman. So this says Diana wasn't interested in the man Bruce from her verse. She was interested in the cowl. Wear a Batman suit and she's yours, no matter the verse. That just demeans her. At least she and Superman in the new 52 WERE in a relationship. Unlike all these other forced, half assed ones. Including Steve.

>The Superman relationship was handled better than Steve under Soule. Diana was very supportive of Superman while with him.

In that run she was complaining with her amazon friend that Superman wanted to keep the relationship a secret and his need to lead a double life, saying that he feared embracing himself as a godlike being and that she'd change that in him. Then you had moments where it was shown she knew almost to nothing about his life other than the fact he was Superman.

>Wonder Woman relationship with Superman has prob been th ebest she's ever been represented in an actual relationship for years.

You must be crazy. She was awful in the books that featured them as a couple. Her best characterization at the time was in her own book while it was handled by Brian Azzarello.

>Before this all we had was boring Steve Trevor who is a mansel.

We hardly had any Steve Trevor for the last 30 years. Steve in the golden and silver age was also dapper as fuck.

>Then she wets for self for Batman for no good reason and who treats her like shit and actually could not be assed to date her because Gothan and Catwoman were his interests.

You're talking about the cartoons where Catwoman was a backstabbing villain that didn't appeared in JL/JLU and that showed caring for Wonder Woman to the point of almost being OCC?
Or the comics where both flirted and taunted each other for bantz and that ended after a single kiss started by Batman because Wonder Woman was afraid of moving forward when Batman was all for it?

Never forgive, never forget...

This is from Charles Soule's run. Wonder Woman didn't even knew where Superman lived, because she thought of Superman as "Kal, The Alien God" first and foremost.

>Her best characterization at the time was in her own book while it was handled by Brian Azzarello
She was a stone statue that mumbles something about love every 5 issues. The run was good, but Diana's characterization was the worst part of it

No I ain't crazy. Relationships are about people growing. Why wouldn't Diana question that? It's more genuine she did. That she just do the shit he and Lois does. Strip away what Superman and Lois does and they two hypocrites who pretend to be reporters for the truth. But they conveniently leave out themselves. Soule had her and Clark grow through out the book. Coming to terms with their differences and bonding over their similarities. Growing. That is what couples do. They don't just coo at each other all the time.
Steve Trevor is still as irrelevant as f. It's 75 years ans people still want her with superman or batman. She worked fine without him as well in the Bronze Age/ Post Crisis. One of the best WW is said to be by Perez. Her reasons for being a hero not because of the hots for the first man she sees. She is motivated because of her self.

And Steve is so relevant, if we are to believe what we read, his butt will be dead come when JL comes around. They kill him in the DCEU. Prob toss her at Batfleck for no good reason other than Batman is so popular.

>The JL/U WW was written like a teenager crushing on Batman.

How's that any different from the pre-Nu52 stories where Wonder Woman initially lusted after Superman after meeting him for 5 seconds because she thought he was like a god and later kept pinning and making moves on a married man who loved another woman with all his heart?

>So forced that in the Batman Beyond book that Diana did not hook up with Batman she chased. Nope she world hopped and hooked up with another Batman. So this says Diana wasn't interested in the man Bruce from her verse. She was interested in the cowl. Wear a Batman suit and she's yours, no matter the verse. That just demeans her.

That story was awful, but Wonder Woman being interested in Superman just because of his awesome super-powers is equally demeaning.

>Unlike all these other forced, half assed ones. Including Steve.

There's nothing more forced than SM/WW, which is done merely because the characters are important, iconic and alike, and their stories revolve mostly about their superhuman nature or powers.

I said it was better in comparison to all the rest at the time.

>Why wouldn't Diana question that? It's more genuine she did. That she just do the shit he and Lois does. Strip away what Superman and Lois does and they two hypocrites who pretend to be reporters for the truth. But they conveniently leave out themselves.

The book showed that she didn't knew Superman, but thought she did. She wanted him to be only Superman when he's mostly Clark. She had an issue with that.

>Soule had her and Clark grow through out the book. Coming to terms with their differences and bonding over their similarities. Growing. That is what couples do. They don't just coo at each other all the time.

Soule had them bickering back and forth because Wonder Woman couldn't accept Superman for what he is and because she didn't wanted to commit herself fully to the relationship

She was terrible in that book.

You think people are stupid. You'd post up a page to try to say oh Diana doesn't care. Diana is learning about the man she has started a relationship with. You would have to post the whole of Soule's run because his run is not about pandering. There were payoffs to every conflict set up. Clark wanted to keep secrets but then they got outed to the world and eventually he learned that the truth was not such a bad thing. In fact liberating. Why should it be? But if you are a believer that he should be banging a star reporter on the side and pretending he is some quiet geek while in reality she writes glowing stories on him and the world doesn't know this...then what can I say? But fact is new 52 Superman and Wonder Woman explored different troupes. Up to them not wanting to compromise the world for each other. The world came first. Rucka's Wonder Woman as well is not even new 52 Wonder Woman. RucKa wiped her out by saying it was a lie. He wants his stamp on WW so he spits on Azzarello's and Soule's. So all of this is just messed up writing, inconsistencies that needs to fall on writers' heads. Not the character. She does not write herself.

Wasn't Legend of Wonder Woman running then?

Stop lying. She accepted Superman. Fact she stuck with him even when Tomasi did his shitty break up. You just spinning your own bias and hate. No one could ever accuse new 52 WW of never caring nor committing to for Superman. It's there on the pages for every one to read IF they read all the books and tie ins including Pak's. So don't think you can mislead people who read the books.

>Diana is learning about the man she has started a relationship with. You would have to post the whole of Soule's run because his run is not about pandering. There were payoffs to every conflict set up.

You get to learn about a person by asking them about their life, not assuming shit about them and then nagging about them not fitting your expectations and wanting them to change to fit you image of them.

>Up to them not wanting to compromise the world for each other. The world came first.

That's every superhero couple ever.

>I last saw her in the DCAU,

She celebrated at the sight of men dying from an Amazonian-made illness because "it brought the sisterhood together".

DCAU Wondy was just as bad as modern comics Wondy.

Which episode was this?

>Stop lying. She accepted Superman.

Only as Superman.

>Fact she stuck with him even when Tomasi did his shitty break up.

Tomasi had her as being totally in love with him to the point where she'd follow him even if he didn't wanted her near, as well Superman totally in love with her to the point of wanting to marry her but not doing so because of him lately not having his powers and thus feeling he couldn't be with her because he couldn't protect her.

>No one could ever accuse new 52 WW of never caring nor committing to for Superman.

She kept her personal life and problems out of their relationship. Superman was constantly complaining about he keeping secrets, because he thought they should share everything.

I'd love an arc where Doctor Psycho or some other piece of shit villein manages to trick/brainwash Wonder Woman into getting pregnant with their child. I would fucking love to see her deal with the emotional trauma of rape, having to deal with the decision to keep or abort the kid, and having to deal with how her acquaintances treat the new, damaged goods Wonder woman.

Yes I do have a sick fantasy about having powerful women get knocked down a peg. I still think it would be a great story to tell. Wonder Woman is so boring as the neck-snapping feminist who never deals with issues surrounding men and motherhood that real women face.

Hellacare, SM/WW crazy shipper, is here. Now we have her to deal on top of Damifag.

>Which episode was this?

"Fury"

An Amazonian who hates men creates a magical virus that will kill all the men on Earth. There's a scene where a city is on fire because all the men fell ill suddenly and had to be taken to the hospitals. Wonder Woman and Hawkgirl fly over the city in the Javelin and WW, looking down, smiles and remarks how beautiful it is because the death of the men is bringing all the women together (as firefighters, doctors, police officers, etc.).

She is never called out on it and Hawkgirl just makes an offhanded joke that there are some aspects of men that make them worth keeping (a vague sexual allusion).

Clearly you've never been in a real relationship if you think it doesn't have questions or nagging. Every man and woman in a REAL relationship when the honeymoon period is over will tell you YES. It is easy to fall in love. It is tough to stay in love. It takes work. It involves emotions and yes it sometimes involves assumptions and leaning the realities and accepting them. That is why you stay with people , kid. You learn to love the good, the bad and the ugly. It's about what you love also but what you can tolerate because you love that person and sometimes you learn from each other. You have these unrealistic ideas about relationships. Love is not some room you sit in and tick boxes as your limited view seems to have. As for every superhero couple? Maybe though we hardly see them having those conversations but sure as hell doesn't define him and Lois. Dude would drop everything for her and that is prob why I like SMWW too.

Oh right, I remember that one.

Eh, WW was basically a militant warrior who never had someone to anchor her down like Hawkgirl did with GL.

Tbh, between Supes, Bats, and WW, WW was the type to rush in and cave in some fucking skulls because it's the easiest way to avert a tragedy, like when she literally crashed that one princess' wedding because Vandel Savage turned out to be Vandel Savage.

The problem with SM/WW is not that the couple had assumptions, misunderstandings or nagging in their relationship, but most of the problems came from Wonder Woman only being interested in the Superman persona or being uncaring to normal people. That was an awful characterization for Wonder Woman.

And every super-hero couple deal with the fact that their lifestyles leave them with little time. This was something that was explored over and over with Superman and Lois Lane as well, with Superman never having time to enjoy a quiet time or a long awaited date with his wife.

Every relationship is about giving and taking. You can't just nag someone to death over every little fucking thing they did wrong and expect the other person to deal with your bullshit every waking hour of every fucking day.

People would rather be alone than deal with some harpy who wants to change every single aspect of your being to suit her expectations and women need to understand that that bullshit works both ways.

If I don't spend every minute telling her to fix her flaws then I'd expect the same level of decency from her as well, especially when I'm already a nervous fucking wreck who spends his quiet time dealing with anxiety and depression caused by self-esteem issues.

Are you the owner of these boards? Or is it being banned from so many others and attacking DC creators on twitter that is making you so territorial? Don;t see the name Blacksun written anywhere here.

Yeah, saying that DCAU Wonder Woman was the last appearance of the "caring" WW that wasn't a man-hater is rubbish. She had fallen down that rabbit hole well before the DCAU shows and her portrayal in that series was extremely anti-male.

WW has been a third wave feminist for the past 20 years, minimum.

Are there people really saying Wonder Woman/Steve Trevor is forced in comparison to Superman/Wonder Woman?

>The guy tried to retcon their meeting as well. This was not how they originally met.

How so? That's pretty much WW characterization at the start of Justice League, Remember? The shitty first arc of the new 52 with Johns and Lee?

Even i don't like it, it's not a retcon: Johns's WW on JL was that bad.

I loved the way she mothered baby Etrigan

I've met OP's mom. She's a nice person, you take that back!

Supes was written as something of a dumb brute in early JL. iirc wondy punched hal or something and supes said "you're strong"

This exchange show that the only reason why the characters hooked up was because of their awesome nature and how their awesome nature alienated and isolated that makes them feel.

1/3.

And later in Soule's run she was complaining about him wanting to keep a double identity to protect his loved ones. You know, this despite her and Steve relationship being a public spectacle and her feeling bad for getting him hurt due to their association.

2/3.

Aaand right there. There it is. The fact that they're not gods, but not like the feeble humans as well, which is the whole problem in this arc because Steve was tortured because of his affiliation to the Justice League. Wonder Woman sought someone who wasn't weak and fragile like Steve.

That's the main route they go with SM/WW other than the immortality thing where they end up together thanks Lois kicking the bucket since WW was waiting decades for the chance.

I wish for one day there to be a SM/WW story where they hooked up because WW thinks SM is funny and he makes her laugh or something. You know, something beyond the superficial.

3/3.

It's kinda funny, they seem to think during the whole conversation that they're utterly special and alone for having super-powers and having to keep secrets from normal people in their lives to keep them safe, despite you know, them both being in a team filled with guys with super-powers that wear masks and keep secrets from the normal people in their lives to protect them.

Hell, even with the Zeus comparison. In most stories Flash outruns Hermes with his OP powers. Should Wonder Woman give him a round next time?

Well let's examined what forced is. Steve/Wonder Woman not a couple for 30 something years. SMWW explored by Perez and Byrne. Got together in many Elseworlds. Then only referenced in the new 52 briefly. We see Steve pining and we know he was smitten. Diana and his relationship never really shown not got off the ground. Then we had a whole series of SMWW that lasted for 4 years and did cross over into JL, SM and Action bks. Then Rucka had Steve show up and then make out with Diana in Rebirth is less than two issues. I would say it is very easy to say which is forced or rushed might be the apt term.

Read Savage Dawn trade extra add in... Superman Wonder Woman 30/31. It's from Wonder Woman's perspective. And just within those two issues gives a better reason as to why she fell for Superman. This scene was given more depth too.

Rushed shock value, contrived conflicts does nothing but screw up their character.

So SM/WW if both forced and rushed, right?

Because SM and WW hooked up in JL in a really rushed way.

You had SM praising WW for her super-strength when they first met, which according to Geoff Johns was the only necessary moment of flirting needed between the two.
Then you the arc where they hook up which started with an unreasonable and angry WW kicking SM in public because she wanted to go after Steve without any backup or plan and finally the three pages above where they talk about their lives and kiss. They went from fighting each other to hours earlier to later that night patching things up in a small talk right to the kissing part. Four pages all of it.

Steve at least had 4 issues and various pages of lengthy talks after being an item years before.

I'd never buy a SM/WW TPB, and i doubt the extra pages will make those pages any better. Specially when we all know why DC pairs them up: superficial similarities and power fetish. It has been that way in pretty much 90% of the stories featuring the two as a couple.

Rebirth WW needs to be taught about romance LMAO. She don't know or remember anything about herself yet able to act like she cares for the first guy she has ever met who hasn't been relevant in 30 plus years and still show no important to this day. She will be committed to the looney bin soon. I would take sword swinging new52 WW over looney Rebirth WW any day.

You really hate Steve Trevor, huh?

Honestly, what do you see in the SM/WW pairing you like so much? What's the main draw for you?

Not hate, just never found any appeal. Give me a good story with the guy and I may give him a chance. But he doesn't offer anything to Diana. Hasn't been needed in over 30 years so do you actually think now will make a difference? Besides he seems more like a father figure/friend type. There's never been a reason given why he was a love intetest in the first place.

Legends of WW is a good one.

Rebirth WW is a complete imbecile! An Amazon who needs a weak man like Steve to tell her what is right or true can not be called Wonder Woman! The writer of Rebirth destroyed the strongest and most confident version of WW so that she was only reduced to love interest, with SM at her side WW had a man at her height in strength, morale, and ability.

Steve is so useless that half of her fandom want her with Superman, other part want her with Batman and a few want her alone or with other woman... Steve is a complete failure as love interest, as companion and as partner. Perez was right to keep him away!

So Wonder Woman is only as good as the man she sleep with? What about the actual character?

I like that SM/WW are equally matched, it's been implied they understand each other more than anyone else can. I don't get why people say they are too much alike or too different. Which one is it? There's an between. New52 had its moments, if written with competence, and natural progression, there was potential there.

Rebirth WW looks very dependent of Steve even to say to her that her home is not her home, and teach her what is love and what is right so, YES REBIRTH WW IS JUST GOOD AS THE MAN SSAYS FOR HER TO BE and that's what the writer is showing, by other hand new 52 WW was strong, confident and powerful enough to be "good" by herself! She was so good that she attracted and conquered Superman's heart!

>I like that SM/WW are equally matched

So because they share the same super-powers? That's it? Not because they have a nice chemistry or their stories together are good?

> it's been implied they understand each other more than anyone else can.

They imply this a lot, as well as the fact that they're super in tune with each other, almost psychically so, and it all stern from the fact that they share awesome super-powers, feel like outsiders in the world and feel different among normal people. The fact that Superman grew up as a normal kid surrounded by normal friends is often ignored when these things are being implied or shown.

>I don't get why people say they are too much alike or too different.

Because they normally are. The thing is that Wonder Woman ends up being twisted to act as a partner for Superman. Gone is the understanding and cool superheroine that constantly deals with people and press, in is the emotional and brutish warrior that have a hard time understanding people and social/cultural mores. She becomes a worse character when near Superman.

>Rebirth WW looks very dependent of Steve even to say to her that her home is not her home, and teach her what is love and what is right so, YES REBIRTH WW IS JUST GOOD AS THE MAN SSAYS FOR HER TO BE

Wonder Woman in SM/WW needed Superman to tell her to be more caring to normal people, teach her how to properly act as a person and how to do things the proper way.

10's usually date 10's & 5's usually date 5's. The number fluctuates every once in a while; way of the world.

SM teach her how to be more caring about normal people? Good this show how he don't need normal people to teach him nothing! And he saying to her normal people are more fragile than her Gods relatives and the amazons is a very natural thing, but by other hand Steve saying to her that her home is not her real home and how "love" is stupidity because if there is one thing she always knew was how love, just read her new 52 books!

Equally matched, intellectually, emotionally not just physically. Charles Soule's first volume is highly recommended as it should be because it's very good and Diana's characterization is good here. She acts like a normal woman and what normal woman doesn't talk about her relationship with a friend. She held her own against Zod and Faora better than Superman. Soule combined their world's with Strife/Apollo meddling. That's my only gripe is that there should've been more of her world. Everything else after Soule left, was forced conflict for the sake of conflict and had them OOC.
But they are outsiders trying to be as normal as they can but Diana has a more difficult time with that because she likes being carefree.

They work naturally together. They sync naturally. Writers don't have to go over board in making conflict or do some big stunt. Both characters can be themselves together. They have similarities but also differences that can be explored correctly .

Wonder Woman is not a worse character when near Superman, she is a worse character near everyone including all the Justice League because most of the writers simply don't know how to act with her! The weight of be an "Icon of this" "Icon of That" makes them simply not know her or have no interest in her! How to create a simple and light adventure with a lot of people who just do not read her stories complaining about what they do not know! If she attacks is violent, then scream, "This is not the WW, WW is just love!" If it does not attack: "This is not WW, she is a terrible warrior!". You need a great writer to balance that character, and DC does not currently have that writer, and if he does, he just does not want to write it! Do not blame her relationship with Superman so blame the groups who do not read or really like her for it!

If you are talking about Tomasi's run. The guy wrote Diana terribly and his response was "no conflict, no story".

>So because they share the same super-powers?
No dammit, they are the two most similar leaguers personality wise. Both have a strong emphasis on kindness and compassion, both relate to people on a very human level despite being near demigods. In a sensible world, that means compatibilty. But because we need constant drama whoring there needs to be conflict and so we get a SM/WW mashup that sees only the matching powers and that strips Diana of her empathy, turning her into some weird shallow girl just looking for a big strong man to fall into the arms of despite it being obvious Clark would be the sub in their relationship. I don't get how DC could get this so disastrously wrong. It was the easiest pairing in the world and they fucked it up.

Wonder Woman then should date Batman, DC's bigger seller bar none.

But then again... Batman should probably be with Harley Quinn, a character who sells more than WW.

>SM teach her how to be more caring about normal people? Good this show how he don't need normal people to teach him nothing!

No, it's bad, because Wonder Woman shouldn't need Superman to learn that. You're pretty much throwing Wonder Woman under the bus to prop up Superman.