Is it cool to hate Frozen?

Is it cool to hate Frozen?

With that piece of shit representation?

moana chick looks the same, just brown with a wider face

The real question is Is it cool to hate Frozen while still wanting to bone Elsa?

It's insulting the fact that concept art is often league better than the final product. Frozen is just presented as an example.

He says as the film was a piece of shit representation of the actual story.

I jumped on the hate bandwagon because of how much they started cramming it into every fucking Disney park. Especially with what happened to Epcot. We were this fucking close to an Imagination reboot with Dreamfinder, but then the whole "Let's shoehorn Frozen into the Norway ride" thing stole the budget away and its sounding like more IP shit is coming.

>Is it cool

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That's retarded, Frozen's concept art at the actual production stage finally looked quite the same as the film.

Someone is just butthurt that their fave out of the many, many, many versions that were bandied about over the decades the movie languished in pre-production and Disney was trying to find a way to make the story work didn't get picked up

>of the actual story
Literally every single Disney film ever butchers the original story into a near-unrecognisable Disneyfied adaptation. They write new stories loosely based on existing stories or legends or whatever. It's what they do.

Crying about the Disney movie not being "faithful" to the original is just being a goddamn moron at this point. Ever since the Evil Queen wasn't forced to dance to death at Snow White and Prince Whatshisname's wedding it's been clear the stories won't be faithful representations

Thing is that most other Disney adaptations retain quite a few core elements while what's left of Snedronningen is pretty much the concept of a woman with ice powers who's also a queen, and she's the antagonist of the original story.

Not really, first draft depicted elsa as a big black man and Anna as a little hapa boy, just like in the original history you can get at blacksonboys.gov

I feel like Frozen was the culmination of wasted potential in Disney movies. It takes so many steps in an interesting and ambitious direction, and it just squanders them.

Which is stupid considering Disney trying to stay faithful to the original story is what caused it languish in development hell for 70 years.

Which is probably why they didn't call it "The Snow Queen".

I mean their adaptation of Hamlet, the Lion King, is also pretty fucking removed from the original Story. Same with the Princess and the Frog, where "A Prince is turned into a Frog and has to be kissed by a princess" is the only damn thing carrying over from the original fairy tale. Rapunzel turned into Tangled was also very, very different, only retaining the "a witch named Gothel locks a girl into a tower and her hair is super long and used to move in and out of the tower" element.

I maintain that complaining that Disney films aren't faithful adaptations from the original tales they used as a base to brainstrom their movies off of years ago is fucking stupid

There's also the concept of a girl journeying north to recover a person dear to them from an ice palace and who gets help from an indigenous person who develops an affection for them.

It's to an even greater extent in their newer films, though. Most of the old fairy tales they adapted in the beginning were relatively faithful to the originals, they just took out all of the really dark parts (the evil queen being forced to dance to death, ugly stepsisters getting toes cut off, etc).

But Frozen and Tangled, on the other hand, do not even REMOTELY resemble the fairy tales or stories that they're based off of.

Yes, it seems they've been constantly veering further and further away from doing faithful adaptations and towards using the base stories as just the starting point from which they start to develop a completely new story. They've been on this course for literally decades. I mean Brother Bear also didn't exactly end up a faithful adaptation of King Lear. The Emperor's New Groove was very fucking far removed from the Prince and the Pauper, on which the Kingdom of the Sun (which was later reworked into TENG) was based. Atlantis: the Lost Empire is very different than Verne's Journey to the Center of the Earth. Moana isn't very faithful to the legendary exploits of Maui - hell, he isn't even the main character.

In the 2000s, they've even started to do more and more animations that aren't even based on any pre-existing story or legend or book but are based on an original idea, like Dinosaur, Home on the Range, Bolt, Wreck-it-Ralph, Zootopia, and possibly even Moana despite it using Maui and his legendary exploits so heavily.

Again, at this point whining about Disney films not being faithful to the base stories the mouse used to inspire their writers is being fucking retarded. It's not what they do, at all. Expecting a new Disney film to be even remotely faithful is being a goddamn deluded idiot.

>most other Disney adaptations retain quite a few core elements
Not since the early 90s or so, not really. Maybe they did in the first renaissance some 30 years ago, but they work differently now.

>I mean Brother Bear also didn't exactly end up a faithful adaptation of King Lear.

That's because they gave up on that early on and just went for Inuit mythology shit.

Sure, the same way they gave up with trying to stay faithful to The Snow Queen decades ago and went with a generic family strife estranged sisters plot.

Again, the movie isn't fucking called "H.C. Andersen's The Snow Queen", it's called "Frozen". They don't claim it's an adaptation of the story, they don't even say it's "based on" the story, just that it's "inspired" by it, which can mean whatever.

Once more, trying to whine that Frozen isn't faithful to the Snow Queen is completely absurd, it's the result of people specifically trying to come up with something, anything, to whine about in Frozen. It's not even trying to be an adaptation but a completely different story just drawing "inspiration" from various elements of the fairytale, namely snow, it taking place somewhere North, a queen with ice powers living in an ice castle, a girl trying to bring back someone they've known since childhood who's dear to them, some indigenous sidekicks, and the vague concept of a "frozen heart". That's inspiration enough.

so what has not adapting the original story to do with the two main character looking exactly like rapunzel?

I will never understand the "outrage" of 2 sisters having the same facial structure

Rapunzel isn't elsa's sister, and neither is moana.