Post a more cunty female

Are we supposed to feel compassion for her at the end? She knew the child would die, but she didn't tell him. She led him on, let him love his daughter... and she ultimately broke his fucking heart.

(I don't hate Amy, just the character, btw)

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It had already happened, family. Think about it.

Honestly the movie went to complete shit after around the hour mark, should've just been an extended short film.

Could she even choose any differently? The movie seems to think the universe is entirely deterministic. She was always a cunt deep down. She was always gonna fuck her kid's shit up. Ain't nothin nobody coulda done about it. Time is a flat circle.

>is a flat circle

all circles are flat

Shit... I get it now.

That was kinda obvious, dunno why I didn't pick it up.

You need to watch it a few more times. She was seeing into the future. The child was unborn at the time of the aliens visit. And the future events were not predetermined and out of her control. She could have very easily chosen to abort the unborn child she knew would die prematurely.
She chose to allow the events to unfold.

shut the fuck up, kid

>seems to think the universe is entirely deterministic
Because it is. To deny this is to deny causality.

Is villeneuve catholic? To them it would make sense, since letting the child live would give it a chance to make it to heaven instead of eternal damnation

There *is no* future, is no past. Namaste.

the point is that even though the outcome would be negative, the positives that came before it made it worthwhile

in a way it's a metaphor about good and evil in the world

No shit. Imagine hating women as much as OP.

Causality is essentially a statistical phenomenon. There is only probability on the quantum scale. On non-astronomical timescales this rarely makes any difference, though.

i don't follow

>On non-astronomical timescales this rarely makes any difference, though.
What the FUCK did he mean by this?

>trying this hard to sound smart whilst being a fucking retardo
ho lee fuck

brainlets detected

Whether a single photon interacts with a single atom in a cristal lattice doesn't alter the trajectory of a the boulder it is part of in any noticeable way, and is for the most part averaged out by the vast numbers of other microscopic interactions. But the longer you go the more such a tiny change can potentially diverge. It would take an insane length of time to bubble up to the macroscopic level, though, if ever. So while the universe is not actually deterministic, it might as well be for most practical purposes.

Tiny particles don't give really shit about causality, but they're so tiny and there's so many of them that it doesn't really matter

>clinging to the illusion of permanence
>not realizing the point of the movie was learning to deal with loss by appreciating the time you have

It's the same choice all of your retarded mothers made. They wanted to give you a chance at life even though they knew that it would ultimately end up in failure.

>Post a more cunty female...
easy

God this movie reeks of shit. It's trying to portray the assasination of a irrellevant powerless hasbeen terrorist as some important world event.
Even manage to crash a classified prototype helicopter in the operation.

Only good thing about the film was the operation itself. The other 1 hour of this movie is some entitled CIA operative running around screaming why nobody wants to take her Bin Laden boogeyman hunt seriously.

egy

well i wish they didn't because these are probably the worst times in history to live in.

What does ones opinion about causality have to do with anything? We're literally witnessing causality while replying to each other. Looking at things in their most micro and macro view doesn't disprove anything.

What did she DO all things said and done? She didn't really make any breakthroughs that I remember.

Why do you have to clarify you don't hate the actress? Lol.

This is some hardcore projection.

The point is that causality is sort of an illusion. It is a useful one, since it applies for the vast majority of things you could ever conceivably care about, but it doesn't actually exist on any fundamental level. So no, the universe is not deterministic since it is still made up of quantum bullshit. It just appears to be to macroscopic fleshbags on timescales relevant to said fleshbags. For the most part. A deterministic universe would mean random chance doesn't exist, but it do.

Consider this case: you eat a single atom of some radioactive element. It gets lodged in some part of your tissue for a month, before being removed and excreted. During this time, the particle could either decay and release a bunch of ionizing radiation straight into the nuclei of the surrounding cells, or not. The radiation could hit and damage some dna, or not. This damage might turn out to be the right type to cause uncontrolled division, or not. Once it does, there is of course your macroscopic immune system which may succeed or fail to deal with the developing cancer due to causal, macroscopic factors. Whether it kills you or not could be seen as "deterministic". But the initial spark, the radioactive decay that kicked the cancer off, is an event that was NOT CAUSED BY ANYTHING. It happens randomly, only governed by some probabilities. In a deterministic universe, you could hypothetically predict a decay before it happens. Not in ours. We can't know because the universe itself doesn't "know" before it happens.

So my point still stands, the universe is not deterministic.