Sweden to form Northern Front against Hungary

Sweden plans to form a 'Northern Front' with Denmark, Norway and Finland to force Hungary to accept refugees registered here, said Sweden's migration minister Morgan Johansson durign a meeting in Lund with represetantives of said countries.

only Swedish source so far

sydsvenskan.se/2016-09-09/morgan-johansson-samlar-nordisk-front-for-att-utvisa-fler-manniskor

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balkaninsight.com/en/article/romania-under-increasing-pressure-from-refugees-01-18-2016
youtube.com/watch?v=MxpJvrclIfM
youtube.com/watch?v=SNy4ixHFrdI
kormany.hu/hu/kulgazdasagi-es-kulugyminiszterium/hirek/a-magyar-emberekre-nem-lehet-nyomast-gyakorolni
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dublin_Regulation
w2eu.net/2011/01/22/front-kick-dublin-2/).
w2eu.info/dublin2.en/articles/deportationstop-greece.en.html
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SWEDEN YES

Come on, Hungary. Take on for the team.

Is he wrong in doing that?
Sweden doesn't want the refugees and they're registered to Hungary
What more do you people want?
If Sweden takes them in, it's "SWEDEN YES, LOOK AT THOSE KEKS"
If Sweden sends them back it's "SWEDEN YES, FORCING MULTICULTURALISM ON HUNGARY"

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Front to brown the world

Swedish cuckoldry knows no bounds. Now they want to force their BBC fetish on other nations

fucking sweden

they're going back all the way or you can fuck off

they should be shipped to Romania, you're the biggest EU and NATO whores.

We have a historical hatred for mudshits. If you push us too far with your forced migrants quota bulshit, we might even quit the EU.

We'd rather be poor than cucked. We will never surrender to the mudslime plague. Expect us to rise and burn down migrant shelters if anyone tries to push this shit onto us.

you didn't reject quotas
balkaninsight.com/en/article/romania-under-increasing-pressure-from-refugees-01-18-2016

any you'll never quit EU as this would mean the end of free €€ and Gypsy exports

>Bucharest is still against mandatory quotas, but officials have said that the country could manage the number of refugees that the EU is planning to relocate to Romania.

We got under 2000 mudshits and they're isolated in special centres. They're not allowed to do whatever they want.

Eventually they will leave the country because we our gibmedats are too low for those nignogs and mudshits.

And we still reject the quotas, we just accepted a few just to pretend we show some solidarity with the other countries.

Considering that today the EU has cut some agricultural funds for Romania because we don't accept migrants quotas, I'd say now we will reject them openly and with stronger conviction. We don't have anything to lose now, since the EU is already starting to cut funds that we didn't use.

The authorities know they are treading very thin ice. If they agree to migrant quotas they will get lynched by mobs.

How about sending them back to Syria or wherever the fuck they came from? You owe them nothing.

We don't get that much money from the EU, under 5% of our GDP.

Fuck no, it's not going to happen once Trump is president and shows everyone how fast an economy can recover without those fucking leeches.

youtube.com/watch?v=MxpJvrclIfM

>We got under 2000 mudshits and they're isolated in special centres. They're not allowed to do whatever they want.

changes nothing, they don't belong here

>Eventually they will leave the country because we our gibmedats are too low for those nignogs and mudshits.

guess why they are not staying in Hungary and Greece...

>And we still reject the quotas, we just accepted a few just to pretend we show some solidarity with the other countries.

solidarity would have been to reject them totally

>Considering that today the EU has cut some agricultural funds for Romania because we don't accept migrants quotas, I'd say now we will reject them openly and with stronger conviction. We don't have anything to lose now, since the EU is already starting to cut funds that we didn't use.

better prepare for a future without funds, there is less and less to redistribute left.

>The authorities know they are treading very thin ice. If they agree to migrant quotas they will get lynched by mobs.

lol no

>We don't get that much money from the EU, under 5% of our GDP.

then why did you join EU anyway?
Also this 5%of GDP figure is misleading, % of gov't budget is what counts.

Because that's not how deportation works and you fucking know it
You don't put them in a plane and send them back to whatever bumfuckistan they came from
You send them to the country that they're registered as a refugee in and THAT country deals with deportation
Hungary registered them, why should they get to pawn them off on other countries?

implying Tump had the power to actually do this.

The funds are not used by the govt. They're relayed to private firms who access the EU funds, if they meet the criteria.

>then why did you join EU anyway?
Common market, a big market for trading, more employment opportunities. Also, the whole process of admission in the EU forced our administration to reform and improve many things in justice, border control, food safety and so on. So overall the EU influence in Romania has been positive.

How are they registered to Hungary if they're currently in Sweden? Hungary has no obligation to take any migrants in they're small country. If Sven let them come its up to him to take them.

>The funds are not used by the govt. They're relayed to private firms who access the EU funds, if they meet the criteria.

so these are subsidies paid for by taxpayers to private companies?

>Common market, a big market for trading, more employment opportunities.

a common market and a market are different things. a common market is a political entity with own laws, no trade place.

>Also, the whole process of admission in the EU forced our administration to reform and improve many things in justice, border control, food safety and so on. So overall the EU influence in Romania has been positive.

so you are incapable to reform yourself and get things done without nanny?

False dichotomy, there's always the option of making biofuel and medical experiments out of them.

How about, and hear me out on this. We send them back to where they came from instead?

They are in America ILLEGALLY, it's not that he doesn't have the power to do this, but Bill Clinton etc haven't been doing their jobs

youtube.com/watch?v=SNy4ixHFrdI

The same way the mediterranean boatniggers who get scooped up and brought to Italy are registered as Asylumseekers by the Italian government
After you're branded a refugee, they pretty much say "ay nigga, west europe is over there, have fun"
You don't get to send a metric shitton of migrants into west europe, build a fence and go "they're not my problem, they walked into your territory"
>If Sven let them come its up to him to take them.
Except Sven didn't take them in, they went to Sven, and Sven doesn't have room so he goes "fuck off back to where you came from" which according to the EU law (you britbongs got lucky) is the country where the refugees are registered at, THAT country deals with the deportation.

I have better idea. Hear me out:
What if Finland, Denmark, Norway and Hungary sends all our refugees to Sweden? That's better idea imho

>They are in America ILLEGALLY,

so what?

>it's not that he doesn't have the power to do this, but Bill Clinton etc haven't been doing their jobs

even Reagan didn't do anything. This situation is created on purpose.

DO IT! RAIN YOUR PATHETIC CVCK ARMY UPON US! WE WILL PREVAIL.

We won't allow it.

expect your Gripens to have malfunctions though.

>so these are subsidies paid for by taxpayers to private companies?
These are like investment funds, private companies can access these funds by participating in co-financing projects. It's like a public-private partnership.
The private firm (or public institution) has to contribute with up to 25% of the funds necessary to complete the project. Then, if they meet some very strict criteria and procedures they can ask for EU funding.
These funds are meant to reduce the economic gaps between the new members and the rest of Europe.

>a common market is a political entity with own laws, no trade place.
The Common market is a economic area devoid of trading tariffs, visas, capital charges, and services charges.
People can buy goods from another EU member state and pay only VAT, no other charges. This is great for every economy in the EU, everyone wins.
Exports and imports inside the EU are cheaper, so every economy grows thanks to that.
Countries from the eurozone have another advantage: there are no currency exchange costs, if everyone trades in one currency. Etc.

>so you are incapable to reform yourself and get things done without nanny?
That was the case back in 2006. Our political class was too corrupt and incompetent to reform the country by itself. They got forced by the EU to implement necessary reforms.

Today our justice system is finally working by itself, as well as our anti-corruption agency. So at this point we don't need EU supervision to have a functional justice and anti-corruption system.

intra-EU civil (cold) war is a go

In Reagan's day, there weren't electronic systems making it possible to check whether someone was legal or not in mere seconds. Nor were there data mining systems able to figure out complex situations on their own, like how productivity can remain the same while firing employees without investing in machinery.

America already deports hundreds of thousands of people, Obama deported some 2 million people but the problem is these guys just walk right back in. With a wall, that's just not going to happen.

Swedes should commit mass suicide so that refugees can settle their land

>These are like investment funds, private companies can access these funds by participating in co-financing projects. It's like a public-private partnership.
>The private firm (or public institution) has to contribute with up to 25% of the funds necessary to complete the project. Then, if they meet some very strict criteria and procedures they can ask for EU funding.
>These funds are meant to reduce the economic gaps between the new members and the rest of Europe.

and did it help anything? The gap is rather widening.

>The Common market is a economic area devoid of trading tariffs, visas, capital charges, and services charges.

and an own legal sytem. A huge blunder for customers which have to fund those "relieves" with their own tax money.

>People can buy goods from another EU member state and pay only VAT, no other charges. This is great for every economy in the EU, everyone wins.

haha oh wow. Only VAT made my day. No one wins except those being able to undercut those getting less subsidies.

>Exports and imports inside the EU are cheaper, so every economy grows thanks to that.

And taxes are high as a huge amount of money is needed to keep those subsidies funded.

>Countries from the eurozone have another advantage: there are no currency exchange costs, if everyone trades in one currency. Etc.

oh wow - then why do you not introduce the € and reap all the benefits it brings lol, not even Scandicucks were this idiotic.

>That was the case back in 2006. Our political class was too corrupt and incompetent to reform the country by itself. They got forced by the EU to implement necessary reforms.

luckily the EU elites are not corrupt and incompetent.

>Today our justice system is finally working by itself, as well as our anti-corruption agency. So at this point we don't need EU supervision to have a functional justice and anti-corruption system.

then why don't you become independent again?

>In Reagan's day, there weren't electronic systems making it possible to check whether someone was legal or not in mere seconds

yeah sure, one does not recognize those crossing the border illegally, one needs electronic checks first.

>Nor were there data mining systems able to figure out complex situations on their own, like how productivity can remain the same while firing employees without investing in machinery.

There even was an Operation Wetback way earlier.

>America already deports hundreds of thousands of people, Obama deported some 2 million people but the problem is these guys just walk right back in. With a wall, that's just not going to happen.

Delusions, a wall might help to reduce numbers, but won't solve the basic problem, the unwillingness so solve this problem.

>kormany.hu/hu/kulgazdasagi-es-kulugyminiszterium/hirek/a-magyar-emberekre-nem-lehet-nyomast-gyakorolni

Hungarian foreign office: "Suck on ape dicks you cucks, you can't pressure us into taking those animals in, this whole fucking mess is your fault and not ours."

>le respecting other countries sovereignty face
>Sweden trying to be "tough"

We have survived the Ottomans, Austrians, Germans, Russians, etc. in the middle of the slav ocean + we have Romania as neighbor.

OH WOW! WHAT DO WE HAVE HERE? SOME SNOWNIGGERS WROTE A FEW HARSH WORDED E-MAILS! OH NOES, OUR ONLY WEAKNESS!!! NOOOOooooo....

Only problem with that argument is that the Greeks didn't even bother to register most of the migrants, that's why they were registered in Hungary AFTER passing through Greece.
So we should suffer because of the Greek government's negligence?

Glad to have you on our side.

Oh shut up, Swedes are special kind of retards
we aren't going to fight you

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yea i m going to kill you all for this if you even attempt this for real

I'd rather see them sent to the bottom of the Mediterranean but rather Hungary than here. Sorry magyarbros

Better one:

>Promise them to be taken to Britain where many of them want to go anyway.
>Load them onto container ships.
>Ship them back to where they came from.

I'm saying that it's easy to see for EMPLOYERS to see whether someone is legal or not. If they choose to employ illegals anyway and they get caught, they will be hit with fines that will undo any possible profit they would have made from hiring those illegals. The same goes for applying to schools, acquiring housing, registering for television etc. Try and get anything done without electronics today, good luck.

I understand that you have no clue what data mining is or how it works, don't worry, most of the planet doesn't. It comes down to feeding huge amounts of data into a computer and having the computer learn patterns to identify certain situations. This will be used to determine which businesses are under-performing for their region despite having enough people coming in, which have less employees than required to run the business despite producing the same as businesses with more employees and other patterns that will lead to investigations into said businesses. In the era of electronics, hiding your crimes is much harder. Just ask Hillary.

The basic problem to begin with is not deportation, not the employers, it's them being able to just walk in without anything stopping them. Cartels have a 30 billion dollar drug industry. The real estimate of illegals in the country is 40 million who cost 600 billion in lost revenue, lost taxes, lost jobs, healthcare, welfare etc etc etc. and that's not even mentioning the money they send back to Mexico to their families.

Once the criminal elements are removed from the illegal population through deportation, life in America will be easier for everyone along the southern border.

Europe is a mess

fucking lol

"take these destitute refugees right now!"

>biofuel
Yes! There's a biofuel refinery within bicycle distance from here. We could just kick them into the fermentation tanks. All environmentally friendly and shit.

Don't forget about the head transplantation practice

>head transplanting
Electronic neural interfacing ought to be a more important field of research than two-headed niggers.

It's not like you'll run out of them even if you do both and then some

This is honestly a complete Sweden NO news item. We're creating a united Northern Front to be able to deport more refugees, either through the Dublinconvention or back to their home countries. How fucking great isnt that?

snippets from the article in question;

During the first seven months, 12,000 people have been refused or withdrawn his asylum application submitted Sweden , either voluntarily or by force
- Now it ensure this continues so that those who are rejected actually leave Sweden .
Recently, the government tightened the rules so that asylum seekers will no lose the right to accommodation and allowances.
- As it was previously functioned Sweden almost like a hotel where you got paid for the stay . It was completely unreasonable, justifies Morgan Johansson.

Morgan Johansson (minister of migration) has given Rättsmedicinalverket orders to develop a system, hiring doctors and others, to promptly resume operations [of mandatory age testing of every migrant]

Now Morgan Johansson suggests that the police can get increased funding in the autumn budget on 20 September.
- We will announce a budget in two weeks. This work requires increased policing and hence more police.
The Government has also given the Migration Agency to quickly produce more detention places where asylum seekers who have been rejected can be locked up .
- More asylum seekers than ever will get rejected . This means that more will need to be rejected by force. Then we know that the need for more storage .
How the fuck is this Sweden Yes? please explain retarded memers of Sup Forums

Like our media would ever tell the truth instead of calling Swedes a bunch of nazis for not wanting diversity bad enough despite what you've done so far.

you're quite delusional. You still haven't understood US border guards may not even stop someone on the suspicion of being an illegal as this would be discriminatory profiling.
Illegals even get welfare, healthcare and go to schools and unis...all this is known without your supercomputers.

> forcing another country to do something
> good

Kill self, gypsy scum.

they signed the dublin convention. are hungarians that untrustworthy that they cant act by their word? when we send them to hungary they are free to in turn deport them. its up to them now.

The jews really did try that today!

See here

Hey Syrian refugees where do you want to go?

Let's stay nearby Syria so it will be easy to return once the war is over.

Have fun in the Arctic Circle!

>and did it help anything? The gap is rather widening.
Yes, plenty of projects have been funded with EU money. Public roads, private construction projects, highways, water-filtering infrastructure, etc.
Well, other countries don't have static economies. Our country does have the highest GDP growth rate in the EU, though. If we keep it up, we might gradually reduce those gaps.

>and an own legal sytem. A huge blunder for customers which have to fund those "relieves" with their own tax money.
EU laws only apply to some domains. The EU does not have any power on the level of taxation, for example (if the rules are the same for everyone).
Also a big part of the EU legislation comprises only Recommendations. Only Directives have to be implemented, but every government has the freedom to implement them as they want. Regulations are the only EU laws that have to be implemented literally.
There are 11547 regulations (binding legislation), but a lot more non-binding legislation: communications
15136, decisions 18545 (only binding to a particular state), food standards system 4783, etc.

OK, I don't have time to reply to everything properly.

Introducing the euro in a country is a more complex thing than just that. You need a strong enough economy to compete on the same terms with other euro economies.

Yeah, and that's about to end. Healthcare, welfare, schooling and housing are all businesses who will be able to check via e-verify whether these people are legal or not. The ONLY reason they get away with this bullshit is because the government allows it.

I am honestly not even slightly surprised.

>they signed the dublin convention. are hungarians that untrustworthy that they cant act by their word? when we send them to hungary they are free to in turn deport them. its up to them now.

lol bullshit, Dublin was abrogated and those wogs naturally don't want to stay in Hungary. Orban rightfully said its no Hungarian problem. Also they didnt parachute into Hungary, they came there crossing several other countries without claiming asylum there.

Ladies and gentleman, THIS is rumania! Do nothing useful but always ready to talk shit about Hungary.

Fuck off. Do you think they teleported to Hungary or what? Deport them to Greece or their home countries,it's not Hungarys fault that other countries did not do their jobs.

The responsibility is definitely on the Hungarians. They were processed there and then left for Sweden. I honestly dont give a shit if the nignogs prefer our welfare state over their country, in fact, thats part of the reason they should fuck off in the first place. They can deport them.

The Dublin III Regulation (No. 604/2013) was approved in June 2013, replacing the Dublin II Regulation, and applies to all member states except Denmark.[10] It came into force on 19 July 2013. It is based on the same principle on the previous two i.e. that the first Member State where finger prints are stored or an asylum claim is lodged is responsible for a person's asylum claim.[11]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dublin_Regulation

>it's not Hungarys fault that other countries did not do their jobs.
How ironic that this is the main argument, that Hungarians are not doing their job with these people. I definitely agree that they should have been stopped in the first place and that it is preferrable they get deported back home all the way but for us this is a legal route that we can and should pursue, if not for any reason that to get rid of more shitskins. For the Swedish government Sweden > Hungary and thats something you'll have to accept.

they were first processed in Hungary and legally thats all that matters. Hungary has to deport the migrants who got processed in Hungary.

Holy shit, you're actually on Sup Forums and don't know about Dublin II? You're making the right wing look bad.

Thanks neighbor!

>you rejected quotas
>you accepted 2000 muslims

kek
this is what?0.0001% of our population?

The sooner you're bred out of existence the better.
Humanitarian super power...

>hungarians will go extinct in the next decades

After all, there's a God up there listening to our prayers

Man this continent went real shit real fast.

Good thing all you chauvinistic Romanians ever do is pray that happens, and sit on your ass all day. Kek.

not happening shitstain, you're just butthurt we're taking measures to ensure it wont. you'll just have to deport them yourself.

We sure will, right back to Sweden.
You've made your bed, now lie in it!

fpbp

dont you see the hypocrisy? you processed them. you made your own bed aswell.

This. I cant stand these smug westerners, they attract mudshits with their welfare, they rape their women, their police and media is censoring everything about them and when they can't handle them what's the next thing they do? Deport them to another European country. they always criticize the east for being racist and xenophobic, hell even that kike Barbara Lerner admitted the genocide and they did nothing.

Fucken Kikes

Don't be an idiot. We HAD to process them. So what, are you gonna dump 2mil refugees in slovenia, population of 2 mil? You invited them, not us! We NEVER wanted them.

Fuck you

We didn't give the world Olof Palme and his lunacy, nor did we cheer on when South Africa was ruined.
We didn't want any of this kumbaya bullshit. You did.

Look who's talking. Miklos Mc literally spamming anything about Romania and pretending it's always the other way around.

>I definitely agree that they should have been stopped
They were stopped, we and Austria canceled all outbound trains through Austria and were preparing for massive containment. A huge horde of migrants set out to cross the country to Austria from the capital, and there were debates what to do with them. Keep them from leaving the city? Let them walk? Then suddenly there were reports of busses being sent to them walking along the highway to take them to the border, and Austria was preparing for them as well. Guess what? Turns out Merkel came through and strongly advised to handle the situation like this, condemning the border wall. At the same time the German police general was advocating for a Bavarian border fence...

Just deport all of them to Africa and stop being pussies.

and when they disappeared from Hungary and ended up on Swedish doorstep, we had to process them aswell. And now we HAVE to send them back. You're a hypocrite, unwilling to act by your words. We never invited them. Our welfare society was built by and for Swedes.

Nicely said.

Your politicians invited them. Everyone is for themselves and they wanted your country. We wouldn't even be in this mess without Germany , You and UK

You know nothing, kid. It's the law to register them at the first schengen country. Greece, croatia etc. Just refused to follow the law. You're gonna penalise us because we were the first to FOLLOW THE LAW?! Are you stupid? Who said refugees welcome? It sure as fuck wasn't us!

Drown in the migros you arab cock loving retard.

we're deporting them everywhere we can. to africa,to the middle east and so on. we're using every available method to us and that includes the Dublin convention.

and this somehow ends up being our fault? your inability to act in that moment was what is causing this problem now.

>W-we never invited them I swear go- I mean guys.
Yeah that's why you have race mixing ads and that's why there were weekly and even daily SWEDEN YES threads

That picture is legit funny! KEK
What a fucking amateur that guy is.

The mayor of our capital city said they were wellcome

szeklers still have alot to learn from hungarians, on the genocide part.
Tell us exactly how you would have done it

Change the law to no welfare for new migrants and start beating them until they leave

>Just refused to follow the law.
not quite.

In January 2011 the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) decided in an individual case that Greece was violating the human rights of a refugee by detaining him under inhuman conditions and leaving him homeless. It also judged that Belgium violated his human rights by deporting him back to Greece (see: w2eu.net/2011/01/22/front-kick-dublin-2/).

Following that decision deportations to Greece were temporarily halted in most EU-countries, because hundreds of other “Greek” cases were expected to be judged in the same way. This decision indiscriminately concerns both: persons who have been fingerprinted and have a “white paper” (chartia) for 30 days and also asylum seekers (holders of pink cards) in Greece.
w2eu.info/dublin2.en/articles/deportationstop-greece.en.html

you guys realize just how retarded this sounds right? "You need to help and welcome these military aged men by force!" Modern war is a very strange thing.

Not blowing up innocent Romanians who want to live in peace?
Your parliament on the other hand could use some anthrax (not saying our politicians wouldn't deserve it either).

>Sweden plans to form a 'Northern Front' with Denmark, Norway and Finland to force Hungary to accept refugees registered here, said Sweden's migration minister Morgan Johansson durign a meeting in Lund with represetantives of said countries.

Eh. What's there to be done that Finnish gov won't join this cuck club? Send angry emails to MPs?

We are doing that aswell, but minus the beating unfortunately. ¨

besides, it just sounds really edgy and naive if you're whining at Sweden for "penalising" Hungary for following the law when the law states that they should indeed take bach these refugees, and in my eyes preferrably deport them aswell. But you're agreeing with me that the law is that Hungary should accept them, so what else is there to your argument than just butthurt?

Which nation in Europe is best for whites fleeing immigrant flooded shitholes?
I'm thinking Poland/Hungary/Estonia/Latvia/Lithuania/Slovakia

I need to know now to start learning the language.