How does Sup Forums counter the whole

how does Sup Forums counter the whole

>POC cant be racist against white
>racism=power+prejudice

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Tell them that they're just trying to change the definitions of words to fit their own interest, and point them towards a dictionary.

Black people have the power in this country. Our president is black, our attorney general is black. What more do you need to rule a land?

You can't.

Making up a new definition for something and then arguing from the position of this new definition is an instant loss in the eyes of any trained rhetorician or logician because it's semantics, a cheap way of """winning""" the argument by changing the terms of victory (both metaphorically and literally). It's a killing blow to any sort of credibility; a fallacy.

Therefore, the only people who make those sorts of arguments are people who don't understand linguistics, psychology, philosophy or logic. It's made by the kind of people who have a rudimentary, surface-level ability to ape phrases and forms of argument, but not the study required to actually know what they're talking about. Like a child using grown-up words solely to portray themselves as adults, while fully missing the point.

You cannot "win" an argument with these people, not in the traditional sense, because whatever you say will be discarded. You have to be exceptionally tricky and underhanded to get them to consider alternate possibilities.

call them stupid niggers
say they will not move to a country where they have a majority because they will be much worse off

niggers in america have it better than niggers at any point in human history.

if you don't have the nuts to do that

just quote tom sowell, a black man, at them all day he fucking hated niggers.

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What I've had a lot of success with is the following:

You have to denude yourself of any preconceived notions of how to discuss topics with other adults. The whole classical paradigm of logical debate between well-informed adults is absolutely worthless when discussing anything with "socially conscious" millennials. Instead, you have to put yourself in the mind of an adult discussing something with a child, and tailor your arguments and presentation to fit this approach.

I know that sounds rude and insulting, but it's true. Treating them like adults is only going to get you an endless saga of "nuh uh"s and emotional reasoning. You have to approach the argument not as an argument, but as a learning experience where you sit down with your opposition and help them to piece the facts out for themselves. Tone is EVERYTHING. You have to be the calm, rational adult who helps the child to think more clearly.

Another rule is to never make any solid statements yourself. Instead plant the seed of an idea and watch it grow in their head. Really, it genuinely is like presenting ideas to 8 year olds, a lot of stuff from child behavioral psychology and some rudimentary teaching courses helped me out a lot here.

Laugh at them and tell them they can just make up new definitions.

Ignore the fact that if they get enough people to go with it they can. Acknowledging that will only give them power.

By using the dictionary, because that's not what it says.
If they argue, start using the word nigger until they get visually uppity. When they complain tell them it's fine to change the definition of words, just like they did.

So black people have less moral complexity than white people? I thought those stereotypes died in the 60's.

If someone pulls the racist card, the easiest thing to do is say "prove it" if someone wants to make a claim with 0 factual evidence, i am not required to give them anything to disprove it. The burden of proof lies with the accuser. That tends to shut people up. Granted words like racist are Trotsky esque and completely useless to an intelliget dialogue. I tend to stop givong a fuck what someones opinion is if they use words like bigot, racist, or nazi(excluding talking about ACTUAL national socialism.)

personally i just dont really give a shit

war is coming soon, then all 'poc's will be shot dead.

no biggie.

Also don't do anything any of the posters are saying about calling them niggers or citing the dictionary. The former is an ad hominem and the latter can be easily outmaneuvered through clamping down on fallacious worldview and paranoia (i.e. "the dictionary was written by WHITE MALES and therefore is invalid" and the like).

this X100
the sjw women in this video are exactly what you're talking about
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>Counter

You're doing it wrong engaging these people.

>Look! Blacks and Hispanics being racist against Whites! Feel bad for us now!

What we need to do is
>laugh it off
>CC or OC and have home defense capabilities
>strengthen up ourselves and out families
>teach our children how to throw a basic punch
>quarantine the Blacks and Hispanics
>wait for low Liberal White and Black birthrates to make the problem solve itself
>push abortion clinics in Black and Hispanic hoods
>have at least 3 children each with strong nuclear and extended families on plots of land
>close the border, and family reunification, institute deportations, end birthright citizenship, and kill any talks of amnesty
>elect Trump so HUD isn't used to "diversify" neighborhoods
>support European Nationalist parties

They're redefining words to frame the argument before it even starts

You can point out logical inconsistencies all day and they'll continue doing it and it'll just then be an argument of semantics

By design, they've already lost before it started

But if you're just trolling, not having a serious face to face argument, I guess you can throw a couple wrenches in the gears

>Hispanic hate for niggers

>Nigger riots against Koreans in NYC (dey own all da stores!)

>When the Furgeson or Baltimore or whatever the fuck niggers were asked about "destroying their own neighborhoods" they responded by saying "dey aint muh people dat aint my hood dat some Indian Paki muthafucka who makin money off us through dem delis"

>Chinese and Japanese racism against everyone

Better answer

>By using the dictionary, because that's not what it says.
Problem with this:
Most people that identify as feminists are batshit crazy, push patriarchy theory and critical theory, and want occupational reparations to make up for the "38 cents".

If the academic and dictionary definitions differ, you may find yourself in a bind. The best way to handle this is not fucking engage in these mind games with gibs being the ultimate goal.

The most common refrain in these types of arguments is
"Black people can be prejudiced but they can't be racist"
just respond with "So you admit you hate white people?"
or point out how self-serving their arguments are.

How you counter any meme
>stop spreading it
>laugh at the people who do

Ask them if the "racists" that ran Rhodesia became non-racists when they lost the elections? Where they racist during the Wars? At what point did they stop being racists?

Pro tip
If an argument is retarded beyond comprehension, don't engage with it as if it is to be taken seriously.
You encourage them and give onlookers an understanding that it is a topic that is legitimate in how it's laid out.

Either turn their logic against them, get the to pull numbers so you can use those same numbers against them, but under no circumstances should you EVER TAKR IT SERIOUSLY.