How the fuck was this on Pbs kids?

Religion, witchcraft, child slavery, cults, death, death, and death! then after this they would air like George shrinks or dragon tales

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PBS broadcasted it on their channel for kids and the kids watched it.

nice link

The cartoon wasn't nearly as dark as the books though. I'm pretty sure they changed the way Cluny died, for instance.

>Religion

those monsters

He was trampled to death by horses, right?

It's been forever since I read the books.

>redwall.wikia.com/wiki/Cluny_the_Scourge

Says he got the abbey bell dropped on him, which I'm pretty sure is what happens in the show too (though it's years since I've seen it).

Well I know someone got trampled, and someone got killed by a giant scorpion, and a bunch of guys got boiled alive.

No, he got crushed by a giant church bell.

Which is one of the many things I always want to tell people when they say that Redwall is a "kids" book series. Kids can read it, sure, but when your villains get crushed by bells, stung to death by a giant scorpion, decapitated by a sharpened shield and fucking having their spine broken and left on the beach to wait for the incoming tide, I'd hardly call it "just for kids".

You literally just linked to yourube's home page.
Is that what you wanted?

Wiki says the Scorpion was in Mariel of Redwall so those other deaths might be too.

Though I remember the abbey dwellers pouring scolding hot porridge down one of Cluny's siege tunnels so they probably hot boiled.

>trampled
The only one that comes to mind was the rat at the beginning of Redwall (I think his name was Skullface or something)

>got killed by a giant scorpion
Ahh, yeah, that was the fate of Gabool the Wild from Mariel of Redwall. I like how all the heroes were pissed off that none of them got to kill him.

>and a bunch of guys got boiled alive.
To be fair I'm pretty sure this only happened in the first book, but yeah that shit was fucking hardcore.

I really like how the first thing Redwall fans show off is their encyclopedic knowledge of gory character deaths.

Says a lot about the series.

They stick out more in the memory of a young boy than elaborate riddles, or food descriptions.

it truly is a book for children.

To be fair the riddles were fun early on, even if they got fairly predictable near the end. And the feast scenes were straight up pornographic.

My favorite is probably when Fangtooth bleeds out after hours of being suspended by his nipples on the iron cross overlooking the abbey's spice garden.

Yeah I am being a bit unfair. I always wanted to get my hands on that Redwall cookbook, and the setting of the books alone is fascinating like Salamandastron and Kingdom of Malkariss.

The riddles really got on my nerves around the time I stopped reading them though. It was as if every inch of Redwall had coded solutions to future events words carved into the walls.

It's either that or "Why do they talk about food so much"

Whatever happened to the Redwall franchise, anyways?

Brian Jacques died.

He was actually working on a new series of books at the time, but they didn't quite have the same charm.

It was LoTR for beginners after all.

Brian Jaques died back in 2011.

Never Dragon Tales afterwards. It was George Shrinks for a time, then Curious George.

Oh.
Well, damn. I was gonna ask if Warriors overshadowed Redwall long enough to unset its hold.

>All those feasts
Jacques once said he liked to sit around and read cookbooks as a kid. It shows

What's the appeal of Warriors? Redwalls have mice as knights fighting pirates and bandits in a fantasy world of bipedal animals in a medieval setting. Warriors are just... cats.

>Salamandastron
I wish we had gotten to see more of Salamandastron, particularly the inner sanctum for the Badger Lords/Ladies. The fact that there's apparently a giant winding tunnel full of prophecies and shit just makes me wonder what else was hidden in the mountain.

My favorite is a tie between Badrang's death (there's something very cathartic about the do-gooder hero of the story brutally beating the shit out of the bad guy with absolutely zero remorse) and Cluny's death.

Also Blaggut confirmed best reformed bad guy.

Cluny had it coming

Warriors is a bit dark for what is considered a children's series the same as Redwall. It's set in a more realistic setting than Redwall, but it's still got graphic depictions of death, illegitimate children, waifus, and sex, among other things.

It's been a while since I've read the series, though. But I distinctly recall one guy getting cut from his throat to his stomach and having to die nine times in a row.

You forgot mutilated and eaten by giant anacondas, and some of their limbs hung as trophies inside a cave.

>You forgot mutilated and eaten by giant anaconda
Best part is that if I remember this scene correctly it happened to a random vermin AND one of the "good guys".

It happened to a gypsy fox after he killed Mathias' friend Methuselah trying to steal shit from the abbey. He wasn't a "good guy" in the least.

What, Chickenhound? He doesn't get eaten, just mutilated, since he comes back in Mattimeo.

And one of the good guys does get eaten by a snake (or rather, a trio of snakes) in Triss, which is what I thought you were referencing.

Those were adders not anacondas, though I guess if your mouse sized there is very little difference.

Daily reminder that anything and everything to do with Salamanstradon was GOAT.

Especially the book with Lord Brocktree.

This user knows what's up. Every book following that plotline was GOAT.

Just finished reading The Shining, which featured a boy of almost 6 facing a literal monster with intent to kill, without flinching or crying.

You are a manchild.

The only thing better than the Salamandastron stories was high seas adventures with Luke the Warrior

Then it's exactly like in the cartoon.

>He mentions that he always wondered about the foods shown in movies or barely mentioned in adventure stories, and he wanted to go into more detail in his books

I have that book. its neat

Does the cookbook actually have recipes of stuff from the books, or is it one of those shitty obviously-for-kids cookbooks with shitty "Redwall Cherry Snowcone" and "Badger Lord Pepperoni Pizza" style recipes?

You forgot two of the halberd-wielding foxes AND their queen all got eaten alive by piranhas, while the heroes watched, and the queen was tied down to a bed.

hell yeah. gonff was a total bro too.

>reading Stephen King
>calling someone else manchild

There was also that time one of the villain's mooks got skewered through the throat with a javelin in nice, vivid detail.

It's mostly how to cook mice, badgers, snakes, rodents, vermin

Hello, OP.

Long Patrol and Lord Brocktree were the best books in the series.

Jack Torrance wasn't an actual monster though. Unless you misinterpreted some bullshit about how he was possesed by a demon or some shit.

Yeah. Because walking about after getting actually killed and have your face smashed to bits with a mallet is something humans tend to do.

The bats in the series are adorable

I liked the show
it was pretty good
at least it treated kids with a bit more maturity

I liked the intro to it
youtube.com/watch?v=_2W_3uXqsfw

First admitted to reading Stephen King. and now this blunder. Sad!

I really want to know who you are. You are a strange fellow.

Hell yeah that theme is great

t.college freshman

was it ever explained how martin knew who matthias is?

>t.

I don't really remember but probably in a prophetic dream, those are pretty common in Redwall

I think Jacques confirmed that Matthias was the reincarnation of Martin.

Eulaliaaaa!

>I'd hardly call it "just for kids".
Theres a group called "Dibbuns Against Bedtime" in the books, man.
I mean, come on, its very much a kids series.

Most traditional folk tales had stuff just as fucked up, if not moreso.

>a redwall thread on Sup Forums

Oh fuck yeah.

Who /marlfox/ here?

>fucking having their spine broken and left on the beach to wait for the incoming tide
when the shit did this happen?

I never read those books as a kid, would i enjoy then now? If so, which one should i start?

It's a kids series, but it's one of those that has appeal outside of just children.
I don't get your logic on how a children's group appearing in the novels makes it one though. Is everything with child characters in it for kids?

Read them in publication order first, so start with the original novel called Redwall.
As for enjoying them as an adult, it depends. Biggest issues if you ask me are that the basic plotline is the same over and over and the morality is always very black and white.

The self-titled Redwall is where I started. Sets up the world pretty well, and depending on what you like about it you can decide where to go next.

Will give it a check.

Well yeah it was a kid's book. And when I was in 4th grade I could read about Harry Potter and friendship overcoming obstacles or a badger in full plate mail with a mace in each hand sweeping through an army of rats

The tone does kinda change from there on out though. He stops any implications that humans exist like the horse having a carriage or towns being mentioned and having stuff like barns and also drops the whole Redwall mice are a religious order concept too.

>full plate mail with a mace in each hand
Sunflash the Mace, right?

The food descriptions were put in because brian jaques originally read stories to blind children and he wanted to be as descriptive as possible

>Spring Recipes
>>Hare's Pawspring Vegetable Soup
>>Crispy Cheese'n'Onion Hogbake
>>Vegetable Casserole à La Foremole
>>Gourmet Garrison Grilled Leeks
>>Stuffed Springtide Mushrooms
>>Abbot's Special Abbey Trifle
>>Spiced Gatehouse Tea Bread
>>Honeybaked Apples
>>Hot Mint Tea

Summer Recipes

>>Hotroot Sunsalad
>>Brockhall Badger Carrot Cakes
>>Great Hall Gooseberry Fool
>>Cheerful Churchmouse Cherry Crisp
>>Rosey's Jolly Raspberry Jelly Rock Cakes
>>Afternoon Tea Scones with Strawberry Jam and Cream
>>Squirrelmum's Blackberry and Apple Cake
>>Guosim Shrew Shortbread
>>Summer Strawberry Fizz
>>Summer Salad

Autumn Recipes

>>Mole's Favourite Deeper'n'Ever Turnip'n'Tater'n'Beetroot Pie
>>Bellringer's Reward (Roast Roots and Baked Spuds)
>>October Ale
>>Autumn Oat Favourites
>>Hare's Haversack Crumble
>>Harvestberry Sunset Pudden
>>Loamhedge Legacy Nutbread
>>Dibbun's Delight
>>Golden Hill Pears

Winter Recipes

>>Shrimp'n'Hotroot Soup
>>Veggible Molebake
>>Savoury Squirrel Bakes
>>Outside'n'Inside Cobbler Riddle
>>Stones Inna Swamp
>>Rubbadeedubb Pudding
>>Nunnymolers
>>Applesnow
>>Mossflower Mulled Cider

Nah, it's pretty good. It's more redwall styled food than stuff actually mentioned in the novels though. It's also all vegetarian except for the shrimp'n'hotroot soup too.

I have nothing but comfy memories of the Redwall series, I cherish it up there with the way less good Deltora series for childhood fantasy.

Definitely books I'll end up reading to my future children.

Marlfox was one of my favorite books and I loved how it had shown that the rats were the victims of tyranny as anyone else in that setting.

I liked how they became farmers in the end.

I couldn't believe it when I found out Deltora Quest has an actual fucking anime.

Apparently it was really popular in Japan. The anime(excluding filler episodes)was very faithful to the books.

Yeah, I remember they extended the Rithmere games into their own story arc, but I always thought that made sense.

Lord Brocktree, it's how Ungatt Trunn died. One of his underlings let it happen and watched too.

Rithmere games should have been longer in the books to be honest.

The filler fleshed out a few things that were unexplained in the books: Thegan's family(they never revealed who the father of all her monster children was)and was actually quite interesting.

i kinda have to thank you op, i've been trying to remember this show for years

Don't forget being crushed to death under a dying badger lord, getting hit so hard by a badger you're splattered against a brick wall, getting your head crushed by bolas, or being half eaten alive in midair by a massive hawk because you accepted a fancy coat from a queen. I think Slagar was the closest to a nonfucked up death.

>getting hit so hard by a badger you're splattered against a brick wall
That was by far one of the most metal things I've ever read in a book. The minute Constance did that I all but fucking cheered.

Constance and the Badger Lords are why I can't see Badgers as cute and not death in black and white fur in other media.

ALSO because he grew up on War Rations in WWII and was pissed that none of his childhood books described the feasts.

because books!
school libraries are allowed to have books with all kinds of shit in em. descriptions of nudery, implied sexual
we have this idea that printed words are nothing and images are raping real people

That's because it's easier for lazy parents to use TV to raise their kids than a book.

>Also Blaggut confirmed best reformed bad guy.
I mean when there were like 3 or 4 reformed bad guys in the entire 22 book series yeah

Funny you mentioned that. DAB was an online Redwall roleplaying community which peaked around the early 2000s, and it made its way into the books through a petition from one of its members. It was dead by the time I saw Jacques mention it in one of his forewords. Always struck me as a strange concept.

>ass-kisser stabs his boss in the back when shit hits the fan
This was too real.

IIRC it was a crippled fox whose family was slaughtered by the big bad guy, and so he was just repaying him in the end.

>Find the Dragon Riders of Pern as a kid
>Literally half way in I get a fucking episode of the Dragons driving their partners into a frenzy of lust and what can basically be rape

didnt she like tie him up in a net and just smash him against a wall until he was a pile of goo?

>TV show based on a series of popular children's' novels
>"how was this for children?!"

>mfw all this nostalgia
God damn I go back and read these books, if nothing else but to get me interested in cooking again.

*gotta