So I really used to be a strongly left-wing socialist democrat, and I think I still retain certain values from then. But as I read more, and am pushed more into feeling shame for my race and my ancestors I have really started to push back and am beginning to see things more like a conservative. The Bernie rally I went to was nearly all Hispanics who would only cheer when Sanders brought up immigration reform, nearly nothing else! It was those things that pushed me away. I still retain, however, views many democrats/liberals have but not republicans/conservatives and I can't say I'm going to be swayed on them. For instance Republicans seem to give zero fucks about the environment and I can't fucking stand that. I want to pass to the next generation something better than was handed to me. I see ridding the world of shit skins as a mutually benefital way of keeping the earth clean of human scum. Secondly, I can't change my view on socialism. I believe the elderly and the poor (of my race of course) deserve some help. I also believe the incredibly rich need to be taxed as much as anyone else- in fact more- because the middle class is shrinking due to the inequality of wealth. I'm not sure what my ideal society looks like but I basically want to see a soviety a lot like the 1920s. People weren't degenerate stoners, men and women dressed professionally, there wasn't all this stupid racial tension, and we weren't involved in bullshit overseas. Anyways I'm not sure I agree with either side of the political spectrum we see today and I was wondering if there were others who felt the same way.
I got Berned
welcome to the right side
May the light of esoteric jahanism guide you
remember the right is always right
If you understand that all your political views came only from "empathy" and you now have a more profound understanding of how to make people have a better life.
It is only natural that you get to where you are now.
>because the middle class is shrinking due to the inequality of wealth
that's not how causation works. it's shrinking due to money printing, fractional reserve banking, massive immigration, etc.
basically socialism seems like it could work with a bunch of very smart, productive humans and no one else. But do you plan on exterminating all the subhumans yourself?
You're progressive right.
Just stick around this board for a while. It'll straighten you out.
Obama was/is a con man. Hillary is just as bad though.
Don't automatically assume nationalism = nazism. Thats a meme. I love my country. I love the constitution, I get physically sick watching illegal aliens or 17 year old pan-sexuals burn the American flag.
Something to keep in mind is that the left have become regressive. They have enjoyed such a strong grip on all aspects of american culture since the 1960's that in its present form the left is redundant, lazy, narcissistic, and if we are being honest, scared to death that the reality they have constructed/relied on their whole lives, might not actually be real.
Well its not.
Whats real is our constitution. Our hard fought freedom. Our collective struggle as a nation. Maintaining all we hold most important.
Look... the left bankrupt everything. They bankrupt the moral fiber of a country/society. They bankrupt it economically. (the top tax bracket is now just under 50% and the poor are no better for it) They exploit sentimentality, drive racial division, and again if we are being honest, they have build a movement in this country based on the premise that if you are white, a male, religious. That you are inherently evil. That you deserve to be actively discriminated against. They are hypocrites.
You're a faggot. We don't want you. Get the fuck out, queer-bait.
The middle class isn't shrinking due to the inequality of wealth. It's shrinking because we import tons of Mexicans and faggot socialist like you decide to tax the fuck out of people to help pay for niggers and Spics.
Its not shrinking because of taxes. Its shrinking because median wages are depressed due to immigration.
>the 20s weren't degenerate
Do you know a single thing about the 20s, it was a fucking travesty of debauchery
>was a centerist
Btw did you switch from Democratic Socialist to National Socialist?
I'm nearing your situation 0.0
I'm being pushed away from Sanders although I still see him in a favourable view.
> Wants to see it a lot like the 1920's
> The people of the 1920's were dubbed the 'Lost Generation'
> Felt they lacked culture, and were disconnected from society by and large
> Racial tension was still there
> Middle class was in it's fledglings, not fully established yet.
> People were turning away from God, focusing more on themselves
> Women were on the road to becoming what they were today.
Yeah, the 20's were just fucking great.
ur in nz tho
I voted Jill Stein in 2012 and was I guess a socially very liberal economically moderate person. Then my eyes got opened up by how shitty Obama was.
Now I'm on the right but I don't agree with a lot of the Christian morality stuff and certainly not with neo-nazis who don't respect our laws.
>defend your race and people
>protect the environment
>solidarity with your people
>simpler times not so degenerate
Seems awfully identitarian/altright to me.
Welcome bud.
Most republicans do care about the environment. We just disagree that it's the government's place to fix it. It is not our governments right to interfere with other nations Industrial Age.
Just wait till 2036 boy.
I hear you on the environment. It seems like Sup Forums's stance on climate change ranges somewhere from "not happening" to "don't care." People here talk about preserving something about their white culture but soon enough all those cozy cold caucasian lands will be warn
But do you see a difference between neonazis (stormniggers) and NatSocs like me?
I fucking hate neo-nazis because they don't respect our rules either. Going and getting fucking tattoos and they believe in the holocaust lie and the "nazis were staunch racists" lie .
>believed in it but a few things about it don't add up to me now and I am becoming skeptical about it.
I like renewables because it frees us away from the jewish claws that is the oil industry.
Hemp gasoline is the future.
depends. can the nationalism be brought about in a non-violent, democratic way? If you support killing or deporting people based on race or religion instead of some objective measure like corruption, crime, violence etc. you are just as bad as those who would overlook all these things because it profits them.
Too long, no fucking read. But going to Occupy Wall Street in 2010 "redpilled" me faster than a million Sup Forums posts ever could
Upper class white activist girls raped by blacks in their tents at night. Protestors, obviously on drugs, begging you for money. Faggot anarchists play-acting revolutionaries when in fact they are mentally broken sub-beta male idiots.
The Left is a circus of shitheads and retards. The scum uniting to bring down the people, the genes, and the lifestyles that make the success of the Western world (and their faggot Macbooks) possible
>people weren't degenerate stoners
LOL the 1920s everyone drank all the time, they were degenerate
>women dressed professionally
KEK no they wore revealing skirts and were slutty at parties
>there wasn't this stupid racial tension
It was the HIGHEST racial tension at one point ever in history. KKK was it's strongest
Also
>hates racial tension
>wants to exterminate "shitskins"
KEK
Welcome to the party; where we recognize there is both chaff and wheat. Don't fear the Threshing. Don't mourn the chaff.
you filthy scum
>money printing, fractional reserve banking, massive immigration, etc.
You need to print money or else the rich will hog all the money
stfu queer baiter.
If I could get the jewish commies out peacefully I would, but I know it won't happen. I am for the deportation or/and killing of anyone who corrupts our government. Currently a jewish group of elites have a hold in our government and media and are trying their best to mix the races out and seperate people who choose to stay with their ethnicity, white, black, asian, every non-jew race gets this treatment.
Pointing out trends isn't racist by the way. Most illegals are Mexicans, Most corrupt leaders tend to be jewish, most apolitical trash tend to be white suburbanites.
I'm Jewish but I'm by no means anti-white or communistic and if the heart of the far right is still people who think Jews should be indiscriminately killed for their religion rather than their actions than no unity can be achieved.
You're on the right path my friend. I found myself in a similar place to you earlier this year.
You're at about a 2 right now and I'm going to share some information with you that's at about a 7.
>I'm not sure what my ideal society looks like but I basically want to see a soviety a lot like the 1920s.
>a soviety
>soviet
dat Freudian slip. you can't hide your true beliefs, marxist.
A majority of illegal immigrants coming in now are Central American. Urging Mexico to build a wall on its southern border in major places of crossing would help as well.
>mfw the holocaust lie got brought up
The Holocaust really didn't happen. It is physically impossible to have those bumbers and not have the bodies to go with it
>inb4 ovens
Even modern crematoriums can't burn that many bodies in that ampunt of time
Dude, The 3rd Reich had jews in it that were like you. They wanted to overthrow the zionist elites.
As long as you don't turn out to be a traitor or an agent for the zionists, Traditional natsocs don't care if your jewish.
we tried to fucking tell you bernouts.....
>I should have added that little info in
I agree. We should help them rebuild the wall down there.
They scratch our backs, we scratch theirs. Fair and simple as it should be.
Still though. American politics is such a clusterfuck and it's so interesting. The Obama administration is trying to put their hands up our government's ass and at the moment, our prime minister is quite willing to do just that.
Yes money needs to be printed but you can't print it at the levels it's being printed right now. Every month our dollar is worth less and less because of quantitative easing. This is keeping the stock market stable but it hurts everyone in the long run as inflation rises.
Sorry to see you saw the degenerate side of the left.
I didn't mention the holocaust...
I said you cannot legally discriminate against Jews just for their religion. Yes, you should stop excessive in-group-preferential usury and corruption/collusion/nepotism, but that doesn't mean genocide and you will have to find a way to do it peacefully and within U.S. laws.
Israelis on here have truly red pilled me. Such a corrupt bunch. I think Iran should be allowed to get nukes and we should pull all troops out of the Middle East except those needed to secure natural resource areas. We should also cease ALL foreign aid to Israel.
They build a wall on our border and we will give them import preference on select traded goods to allow them to build a wall on their border.
Obama was so obviously a con from the start.
Didn't NZ have a jewish PM?
John Key. Corporate puppet, apparently has worked with Goldman Sachs (which isn't surprising, he was a British banker back in the 80s).
At the moment, they're doing absolutely nothing about clean rivers being polluted by commercial farming (which caused an e-coli water crisis), housing crisis nationwide and other stuff. Polls are showing though that his term is beginning to become more and more unfavourable.
The other Jewish kid in my school who bullied me all the time is now a VP for Goldman Sachs. They truly do get the worst. His dad left his mom for another man so he resented me being gay and smarter than him so he bullied me.
>you seriously believe a revolution like that could happen peacefully
I like your hopefullness but don't count on it.
>the Talmud
In your book, if you read it. Says you are okay to discriminate against the non jew.
Whether you like it or not, gay rights (cake laws) frequently descriminates against christians right of religion.
Are you against the Talmud would rather have Jews be discriminated against (0.3% of the population) or the non jew? (99.7% of the population)
>because the middle class is shrinking due to the inequality of wealth
because they are taxed to death, whilst the croney friends and rich can invest to lower their taxes, and take advantage of loopholes
stealing money from the rich isn't a moral solution, and they will just move to a lower tax regime anyway. you can steal their current wealth, but not future
>lookatme every1 I'm trolling XD
Fuck off stormnigger
Well we might need to change some of the laws but I think a lot of comes down to preserving the 1st and 2nd amendment. When someone speaks out against someone, it should always be because of their misdeeds not their creed (race, religion). Don't associate with Hitler. Create a new nationalism that isn't solely Christian Identity movement.
I am a reform Jew. We are not taught the Talmud in religious school, only the Torah, and we believe both to be the work of men, not God. Our denomination also believes that the Talmud's opinions are no more valid than any current Rabbi's.
Its weird how the cake thing became such a big deal. I suppose its their right to not make a cake, but its dumb and would set a dangerous precedent if we allowed them not to. They are baking a cake, not officiating the wedding. They can hand over the cake and say "well we think you are sinners and going to hell enjoy the cake!". I also don't understand why the gay couple wouldn't have found another bakery. But again, I think you can have nationalism without Dominionist Christianity behind it, and therein lies the new nationalism that Sup Forums must promote. That secularism is important, and racism must be supported by facts and logic and can only discriminate against actions, not colors.
>even the jew knows that Nazism was a mostly christian movement
ATHEISTNAZIS AND PAGANAZIS BTFO
>don't associate with Hitler
I know I can't if I were to create a new movement. If the media assoviates us with hitler then it would be an oprotunitty to redpill people about him.
>technocially semetic atheism but undermines the evils of Judiasm
I am for this if you are telling the truth. Even though I disagree with your religions opinion on the Old testament, Your religion makes Judiasm in it's current form a toothless dragon.
Secularism in government is needed in a non homogenous population.
Secularism by itself is cancer. It leads people to worship the state.
I do feel that Hitler and many of his ilk at heart were somewhat neopagan but probably since Northern Europe has such a strong history of paganism compared to Italy or Spain it has always suffused into the Germanic brand of Christianity.
I think you have to move on from Hitler and have nationalism for America, not some old system that didn't work for Germany.
I am not an Atheist. Secularism means the government doesn't hold religious opinions formally, not that officials running it can't be religious on their own time. The point of Secularism is to stop majority religions from suppressing minority ones. People will always be inspired by their religious beliefs. But the Christian Identity movement and Dominionism have failed to gain sway. We need to assail people for Corruption Collusion and Nepotism, not their creed. Laws must be based in action, not in idea or association.
The old system didn't work because it was a one of a kind and got killed by Americans and Commies is it's infancy.
I think "random" background checks are needed for jews though if it ever came off.
Im definitely feeling the same way as OP, minus the socialism and the 1920's part, Im hispanic and I'm expected to only care about Immigration reform. I'm worried about other shit too, like my best friends cuban and his grandma always talks about how bad socialism is, that combined with the condescending tone of the dems is really pushing me to the right.
Again, it must be based on actions, not discrimination if you want it to work.
Non reformed jews won't get checked.
It is based on the books actions.
Eh conservatives haven't done anything either. I do agree that Orthodox can be dangerous, but the challenge is to do it based on actions, not potential. You will have a much more stable system if its steeped in laws and doesn't resemble a modernized troika. You won't defeat the jews by doing what Stalin did.
>the right side
Oh shit, that's gold.
>a jew is trying to pull tricks
wew.
>stalin did it means stalin claims it
You are still retarded sorry
If you want to stop the (((rich))) owning everything then get rid of fiat currency
Welfare also always allows a wedge in the door for other social programs. Leave the job of helping the needy to charity.
I agree with you on environmental issues, but you need to realize that the left is good at identifying problems, but not fixing them