Was his betrayal the most forced shit in the history of forced shit?
Did they really need a villain twist THAT bad and also a way for Anna to avoid having to make an adult decision like choosing between two love interests?
I wanted to punch every fucker in the theater who gasped when he revealed himself, and then cheered when Anna punched him into the water.
Also fuck the magic rock trolls.
God what a piece of hot asinine garbage.
Stale copy and pasta.
That guy is a visual representation of proverb: "Don't judge a book by its cover." Many psychopaths have attractive image and manners. Once they gain your trust, you're lost.
His betrayal is especially forced when nothing he does leads you to assume he's plotting against Anna and Elsa for the throne. Even the "if only there was someone who loved you" line was good, but it doesn't mean anything since it's just a complete 180 in character for Hans. It could've worked if there were at least a few hints to his real goal, instead of him just going "hurr im evil now because we need a third act for the film".
On one hand his betrayal makes him the most complex character in the film. On the other hand his betrayal makes no sense.
Quite a paradox.
Hans did nothing wrong.
He choose Anna and not the superior elsa.
>that's something wrong.
Have you guys never been in a bad relationship? This fuck had more red flags than China.
He was trying to rush a naive and sheltered princess into a marriage the day after he met her, pushing the idea that they were a perfect match when she had basically no frame of reference, and he had mostly just been saying "me too!".
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>Was his betrayal the most forced shit in the history of forced shit?
It sucked, but because his plan in the 3rd act was garbage, not because it came out of nowhere. It was incredibly obvious that he wasn't going to be the film's main love interest once Kristoff appeared, and Kristoff himself pointed out how sketchy it was that he immediately proposed marriage. There were even clues laid in his part of the "love song".
It's funny how this is moral of the story and it not only goes over everyone's heads but people are mad at it.
>Why can't I just blindly trust good looking people WAHHH!
I honestly think the movie would have been better if he'd been trying with Elsa. It would have necessitated the whole plot being rewritten, practically, but it makes much more sense. Why go for the spare when you can go for the heir? Who cares how sheltered and autistic she is.
Oh shut up Tumblr.
Frozen wasn't that great but Hans was the best part for me. He had a good mix of shifty enough to think there's something up but nice/manipulative enough to keep you second guessing.
Wait are there seriously autists ITT who didnt see he was the villain the very second he walked on screen?
>tfw I'll never know if I'm clever enough to see through his ruse because the tweest was spoiled for me just before I got a chance to see it
Thanks Josiah.
Most people aren't really expecting a twist. Maybe if you saw Tangled and Wreck it Ralph and were already seeing the pattern.
Tangled didn't really have a surprise villain. Sure it was a shock to Rapunzel, but the audience was clued in right away. Unless they cut out most of Gothel's scenes in the international release.
Well, it is a family movie, so...
Kids.
You don't see the twist coming but you sort of expect he was holding back something like him wanting to get married asap or in the musical number "Love is an Open Door" when they try to finish each other sentences and Anne stupidly says sandwiches and for a second Hans hesitates and has a dumbfounded look and his face before saying "Yeah, that's rights..."
But that stuff could easily been explained with him being sheltered and him just not wanting to hurt her feelings and he's so damn nice throughout the film you sorta forget about that suspicion all together.
The idea isn't bad, since it is a switch from the average Prince concept Disney uses. I agree though that it's forced too quickly in a scenario that doesn't really work.
What do you think the chances of Hansdemption happening are? The book A Frozen Heart showed that his childhood was kind of fucked up.
None, if for no other reason that I want a travelogue of Hans rakishly gallivanting across the world leaving behind a trail of broken hearts, empty pocketbooks, and death sentences, Baron Munchhausen style.
Just because it works thematically, doesn't mean it's not shit writing.
They've never exactly hidden the fact that Frozen was rewritten late in production.
Hans did nothing wrong.
Well it shows. Tangled was a boring, cliche retread of all other disney princess movies, but at least the story made sense.
But that moral doesn't even work because hans did more for the citizens of arendelle than Anna or Elsa.
I thought the moral of the story was you can't just let things go and need to face your fears and work through them
I think it's pretty likely, Disney hasn't really branded Hans as a villain in marketing or merch.
I thought the moral of the story was sister love is pure love.
He said he did want to try with Else, but based on the info he had on her it wasn't going to happen. She stood in her room all day and barely talked to anyone, if at all. For years.
He figured the sister starving for affection would be easier.
Frozen was extremely poorly written but no one dares to say that out loud.
Sure he did. He picked the wrong sister.
>rip is a porn director
it has its problems but i wouldn't say it's extremely poor
and i don't think the problems lie with hans; the op argument comes down to missing the point and wanting something different
Yes
What gets me is that theres no reason for Hans to be evil. Its unnecessary to the plot. They've only known each other for 5 minutes, is it that hard to believe its not "true love" even if they did have mutual feelings?
>Butch Elsa
Gross, Elsa is way more girly than Anna.
You just watched the video from the game theory guy and post this right, because you're making the exact same points he did
Yeah the movie doesn't need a villain, Elsa being a icy aspie is all you need for the antagonist.
Disney has just been catching a lot of heat from normies for their movies depicting couples meeting for only minute or hours and deciding they're destined for each other because of it. Like an over-exaggerated love at first sight.
I mean, it's just a fucking hour and a half story for children about love, of course there's not gonna be a lot of romantic development time.
But so this was Disney trying to backtrack and answer the normie cries.
Beauty and the beast does all of that way better tho.
That's why BatB is still on of the best Disney movies around.