Disney has decided that Darth Vader and the Empire are now literal nazis (white supremacists)

>Disney has decided that Darth Vader and the Empire are now literal nazis (white supremacists)

Hey, anyone still want to use the excuse that these movies are made for little children? I offer now as the time to bring that up.

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newsbusters.org/blogs/culture/callista-ring/2016/11/22/post-election-star-wars-writer-tweets-empire-white
theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/06/hollywood-has-a-huge-millennial-problem/486209/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_invented_here
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmabteilung
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock_troops
starwars.com/news/from-world-war-to-star-wars-imperial-officers
twitter.com/NSFWRedditVideo

Proof:

newsbusters.org/blogs/culture/callista-ring/2016/11/22/post-election-star-wars-writer-tweets-empire-white

>sell series to a conglomerate where the leadership positions are predominantly jewish
>nazis are now the bad guys

Alright

So what happens when you combine nazi parts with the good goy parts?

They were always kinda nazi inspired, but they really went too obvious with it in TFA.

Is that why one of the SW Disney Admirals is black and female? And another is a blue alien?

Grand Admiral Thrawn and Darth Maul. Who the hell are they and why are they not white/human? Disney controls the rights to the Star Wars franchise, with the previous movies and their new content being canon, and Darth Maul was in Episode 1 and Thrawn is in Star Wars Rebels being made by Disney.

The writer can kill himself and Star Wars can't go to hell because it's already on the 10th level of hell as it is.

This, the writer is just butthurt Trump won and it makes zero sense the Empire would be white supremacists in a universe with thousands of intelligent aliens.

The funny thing is Lucas says that the Empire was meant to be symbolic of Stalin's Communist Russia.

>the empire actually is racist
>they still prefer aliens to minority humans
>other than hearing "ayy lmao" all the time the aliens are treated very well
>aliens buy into it, attend cross burnings and so on

I thought it was supposed to be symbolic of Nixon's administration.

>Grand Admiral Thrawn and Darth Maul. Who the hell are they and why are they not white/human? Disney controls the rights to the Star Wars franchise, with the previous movies and their new content being canon, and Darth Maul was in Episode 1 and Thrawn is in Star Wars Rebels being made by Disney.
To be fair,
1. Thrawn is specifically an exception to the Empire's no alien policy because he's a badass.
2. Darth Maul was never in the Empire.

>aliens visit Brazil
>"I understand completely"

>Legends is not Canon

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Not just that, but wasn't it said that it's more like Japan and Nazi inspired? Hence all the silver/white on black combined with Vader's armored samurai aesthetic.

>Disney
More like THE ENTIRE HOLLYWOOD cannot seem to comprehend there were other bad guys in human history other than nazis.

Maybe you should stop watching Hollywood movies. Just saying.

>No aliens or women allowed in the military
They were pretty shit

No, but I imagine the same rationale for Thrawn's presence in the Empire applies. No need to reinvent the wheel here.

I thought it was depicting the dangers of a fascists regime in general, thats why it incorporates the Nazi cosmetic and some Stalinist Russia military hababaloo

Nazis are one of the last remaining acceptable targets available to mainstream Hollywood, and they're gonna milk it fukken dry

>Disney has decided that Darth Vader and the Empire are now literal nazis (white supremacists)

Weren't they always Nazis? I mean the Storm Trooper shit gives it away.

I mean the admirals before were a diverse array of Aliens. Way back in the 70s.

What other bad guys could they use?

The Mongols? The Romans?

>Disney has decided that Darth Vader and the Empire are now literal nazis (white supremacists)

Disney decided this? They were always Nazis.

I'm very glad I was never into Star Wars. It must be terrible to see it rot into anti-white SJW propaganda.

See

While I understand this, you really can say it was also Nazism as well. Keep in mind the various trooper name. Storm Troopers are literally troops Hitler deployed.

I'd take the fucking Spartans. They were fucking evil, and not even effective evil. They crumpled under their own shitheaded system. If anyone deserves to be reviled, it's them.

How about something shocking, unheard of, controversial even? How about coming up with original antagonists and actually creating something?

Hollywood is dead. The Jews who run it cannot create anything, they can only subvert or poison existing properties and after decades of doing just that there's simply nothing more to steal and destroy. All Hollywood now does is shit on white people and white culture and that's the only kind of story they're capable of. I'm not kidding with this - Hollywood is dead and that's a good thing. You Americans may not notice this due to proximity to the shit factory but it's very obvious from my position. Nobody watches movies any more. Nobody. Nobody watches american programming anymore because it's all fags, blacks and liberal propaganda. You've completely squandered your position as fiction creators.

Furthermore this ties with the above - any plot be it SF, romance or action has been done and it has been done better in anime. Anime is the pinnacle of 20th century moving pictures spiel, and with a bit of time it'll be recognized as such. Remember The Matrix? That's just Serial Experiments Lain for plebs. That's just a blatant example.

It's ogre and it's time to go home.

Calm down, pseud

Tasteless pasta

>Anime is the pinnacle of 20th century moving pictures spiel, and with a bit of time it'll be recognized as such.

>Nobody watches movies any more
You just earned yourself a filter. For being a trip fag and for being wrong.

>20th century
Nope, and not even 21st century thanks to anime industry merely copying character archetypes and plot structures. Nobody takes any risks anymore.

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You honestly think they got everybody back to film a scene after the election?

You're dumber than I thought.

Yes, I know how it sounds. But I'm right. Merely remember this for the next 30 to 50 years.

That list is a list of sadness. Contemplate it and you'll see why.

The entire world of fiction be it Western or Eastern is in dire straits. That is true and it applies to all mediums. I hold metaphysical beliefs as to why so I won't try to drill it into you.

In either case mere originality is nothing and means nothing. Modern art is a perpetual exercize in originality but it's nothing but shit.

2015 alone has seen billions of dollars to films with a diverse array of actors and actresses. Many of which with black protagonists and side characters

It's almost like you sit in your basement with an image board being your only idea of the real world

There, a (You), now fuck off tripfag.

>That list is a list of sadness. Contemplate it and you'll see why.

The point is, you're wrong about people copping out of western entertainment. It's thriving as big as it's ever thrived before. Despite how you feel doesn't change the numbers.

Men lie
Women lie
Numbers don't.

Weren't the storm troopers clones of Jango Fett who is a non-white played by a Polynesian? But why let facts get in the way..

Browns watch other browns, that's true. But the stories are worthless.

Look around a bit, explore for yourself on the Net. You'll see that they themselves are aware things are tumbling down.

>I hold metaphysical beliefs as to why so I won't try to drill it into you.
I agree with you on that.

I found an interesting parallel; only a few people see stars in their usual glory anymore, since the light pollution dims them out. The guidelines of the old are not accessible. A night sky unobstructed by human settlements is truly the most magnificent thing I've seen.

>Weren't the storm troopers clones of Jango Fett who is a non-white played by a Polynesian?

No nigga. Just no.

>writer for the movie spergs out so hard over the election results, she has to delete her tweets because she's worried about hurting her colleague's job prospects
Jesus Christ, people really need to get a grip. It was a fucking election.

I can't believe it's been THIS far into December and this is the first time I've posted this. I must be slipping in my old age...

Storm Troopers are not Clone Troopers. I repeat, Storm Troopers are not Clone Troopers. Clone Troopers all died out by the A New Hope. The DNA/RNA weren't able to replicate themselves that many times over. They were only suppose to be temporary anyway. Storm Troopers are people recruited by the Empire.

>Browns watch other browns, that's true. But the stories are worthless.

Browns watching other browns don't match the numbers some of those films are doing.

If that was the case then every media movie would slap top 5 immediately.

On a marginally related note, one of the reasons why I like TLH is because it feels like an american show. I missed that.

This is a transitional phase I feel. The separation of the wheat from the chaff. Authentic culture will reemerge, I'm sure of it.

>Look around a bit, explore for yourself on the Net. You'll see that they themselves are aware things are tumbling down.

I just told you, the net isn't accurate enough to produce good results. Just because the sites you browse talk about anime religiously doesn't mean anyone else gives a fuck about it.

You have an extremely narrow view of the world if "The Net" is how you judge the world. I just posted movies that did extremely well in the last decade. Most of which were made in 2015.

Okay, well the clone troopers were non-white then, still proves my point. Also the storm troopers are not all white, Finn is black as hell, nobody cared.

>Okay, well the clone troopers were non-white then, still proves my point.

I don't understand what your point is.

One can argue that The Republic weren't based off the Nazi regime, but The Empire clearly was.

>Guys, this movie is about minorities rising up against white supremacists
>And along comes the Aryan savior Luke Skywalker...

And I was refering to various news articles from legit* publications that have been talking about how Hollywood's been in the crapper. Example:

theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/06/hollywood-has-a-huge-millennial-problem/486209/

*established media outlets are not to be trusted, but in this case they serve their original purpose

They were based off the Nazis in that they were authoritarians. They were never portrayed as racist.

They weren't racist though. They just wanted to rule over everybody.

Even though they were pretty shit at fighting the major criminal organizations.

>implying they won't do a remake with browns and gays

>One can argue that The Republic weren't based off the Nazi regime, but The Empire clearly was.
Besides cool uniforms, I don't see the connection. The leadership is elusive and rather behind the scenes as opposed to the egoistical leadership of fascism (in all its forms).

What I'd really love is to get the US politics out of my fiction. Alas, we will have space twitters, triggerings, strong and peerless women and PoC.

But of course they know that you have other vilains than nazis, you have communists and since 2001 islamist.

I admit my outrage would be violent

Wasn't one of the lead protagonists of The Force Awakens a storm trooper who is literally a nigger?

>And I was refering to various news articles from legit* publications that have been talking about how Hollywood's been in the crapper. Example


1. The article is clearly addressing how the issue is sequels of old and tired battered series.

2. The article clearly states over a 6 month period. This is not enough time to judge the entire movie industry as a flop, because there have always been time periods were movies just aren't selling.

3. Even if this were the case, what about Anime makes you think it's on the constant uprise. So much so that it'll surpass western entertainment alone? Do you not realize how tedious keeping up with Anime is? Even provided with easy access to it like Netflix and Hulu it under performs.

The First Order is not the Empire. The First Order is basically ISIS.

If he'd said the First Order was a White Supremacist I wouldn't have a problem with it, but the Galactic Empire really wasn't as much.

>No need to reinvent the wheel here.

But they'll do it anyway.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_invented_here

>The First Order is basically ISIS.

I think IRA is a better fit for them.

>How about something shocking, unheard of, controversial even? How about coming up with original antagonists and actually creating something?
Coming up with characters/antagonists on the level we're talking about (not inspired by or paralleling some historical human society or natural quality) is literally impossible. Like, "think of a new color" level impossible.

Tl;dr you're a sperg.

Truth. My point was, even Lucas himself clearly garnered inspiration from the Reich.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmabteilung

> Many of these stormtroopers believed in the socialist promise of National Socialism and expected the Nazi regime to take more radical economic action, such as breaking up the vast landed estates of the aristocracy once they obtained national power.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock_troops

starwars.com/news/from-world-war-to-star-wars-imperial-officers

>Star Wars creator George Lucas even refers to the Imperial officers in The Empire Strikes Back as “Nazis” while giving his commentary of the film. He specifically mentions their militaristic dress, noting, “The Nazis are basically the same costume as we used in the first film and they are designed to be very authoritarian, very empire-like.”

But yea as the other user said, they were Nazi in style in formation, but not in ideology. At least racial ideology.

I'm willing to bet you'll be outraged in the future. It is in fact inevitable.

>what about Anime makes you think it's on the constant uprise

I didn't say that. I said that it overshadowed western production. Its glory days seem to be over as well. I regard both as already being history, but even now anime still has far more to offer. At the very least it isn't pozzed. That alone makes it better and actually enjoyable.

But hey, I have very little emotional investment in Hollywood stuff as such and there's more anime out there than I'll ever watch. I feel no need to argue my points at all. You'll realize them yourself because it'll become very obvious the more time passes. I have no real interest in any of this. I'm merely sharing an observation.

They already did a remake with it whitey leading.

>I said that it overshadowed western production.
It really doesn't. Production wise, Anime tends to rehash 3/4 of the content released, with there being a gem every season, but even still the gem might not break away from previous found inspiration.

I, myself, grew out of Anime long ago after I got bored of the same characters and animation over and over. Movies on the other hand provide a diversity of perspective and cinematography. I prefer them over anime anyday. Either way, as an industry, Movie trump all and will continue to stride on. Anime will eventually fade away.

You're either very stupid or severely limited because that makes no sense. By that logic everything is impossible. Are you honestly telling me that a guy can't sit down and write about the protagonist and an antagonist of any sort without it being a carbon copy of something real? Is it THAT impossible? This isn't even a very creative task as a rudimentary idea.

I always thought they were more anti-alien, but aliens can rise to power in the system of they're good enough.

>Are you honestly telling me that a guy can't sit down and write about the protagonist and an antagonist of any sort without it being a carbon copy of something real?


The irony of you saying this and then praising Anime like it's God's work, does not escape me.

>Nazis
>bad guys

How are Nazis bad guys?

Maybe you just like to skim on the surface of things like those swamp mosquitoes.

They had a humans first policy, you had to be exceptionally good at your job to be an alien and reach a high position in the Galactic Empire government. Like Thrawn, who was the most brilliant strategist of his time.

>Maybe you just like to skim on the surface of things like those swamp mosquitoes.

Even if that was the case, there's not much substance the the average Anime for you to dive deeper into it. Almost every anime is to be understood at a surface level.

Not to stereotype it, but a good bit of it is little girls in skirts dancing and acting cute. That shit is retard level entertainment. Flip on PBS Kids and i'm sure it'll give you the same reaction as you do when you watch some Anime.

Not carbon copy you moron. Inspired by or paralleling. Because that's what art it. It imitates life. We're humans and we write about stuff humans do, and we know what humans do because they've already done it. There are, depending on which literary theorist you ask, no more than a few dozen actually original plots. Literally everything else ever written is a retelling of those plots. Originality on that level does not exist.

Yes but the Empire was sure as hell not "white supremacist". They were xenophobic to an extent with reasonable shit like wookies but when push came to shove and the attempted clone rebellion of Kamino happened the Emperor made non-mandalorian based clones in a heartbeat.

>the Emperor made non-mandalorian based clones in a heartbeat.

Which didn't really work out so well for him(clone madness is a bitch). Thus the move back to a volunteer military.

Yea that writer is possibly retarded, but I understand how he can misunderstand The Empire so. Doesn't give him right to make the tweets he did and blatantly seem obnoxious.

I tried so hard to not let it bother me, but TFA was so devoid of original content that the political agenda ended up being the most interesting part about it.

People of the future are going to look back at our media and think white people were total scumbags. Especially the British.

But on the other hand I can say the same about movies. There's nothing "deep" about them either, and from my perspective they are an inferior form of storytelling precisely because they use real people. Johnny Depp is always Johnny Depp while an anime/cartoon girl is who she is even if she's just a moe character. She's still a purer character than the above mentioned precisely because she isn't real. Her unreality makes her real on a deeper level.

A step above all that is books of course, and imagination.

Drawing parallels is different from "Nazis in space." They might as well draw swastikas on space ships at this point. They aren't "inspired" by something previously seen, they're just reusing it whole.

Can you really blame the J.J for making it seem Nazi-ish tho? Lucas really tacked the Nazi cosmetic on the first few films. He made it blatantly obvious.

Jeff Swampy Marsh detonated about the election and may have sunk Milo Murphys Law because he cannot deal with it.

>while an anime/cartoon girl is who she is even if she's just a moe character.

Yes, a moe character who has the same personality recycled. I Can't tell you how many of those moe characters get lost in the vast sea of moe characters. On what scale are we judging who is a purer character...what the hell does that even mean? At some point it isn't even a character anymore, but moving art with a copy and pasted on personality.

It's even worse for Anime, because you can do anything imaginable, but instead they keep doing the same shit over and over again.

>Her unreality makes her real on a deeper level.

Absolutely not. Not once have I ever seen one of those characters and thought about how "real" or "deep" the character is. That's probably what attracts the viewer base to them so much. They don't act "real" and are predictable so much that they are comfortable for the viewer, because the viewer himself doesn't like change.

Not really. Without whites the world will regress to a pre-industrial level.

>Drawing parallels is different from "Nazis in space." They might as well draw swastikas on space ships at this point. They aren't "inspired" by something previously seen, they're just reusing it whole.

If you review the thread, Lucas obviously drew inspiration from the Nazi movement. There wikis posted above taht emphasize this. Storm Troopers were soldiers in the Reich as well as Shock Troopers. These are concepts inspired by actual Nazis. Which is why you can understand them taking it a step further. Every thing about the old movies hinted at them doing this.

Blame the media. They fear mongered so hard to try and get people to vote Hillary. No wonder people think he's super Hitler when the talking heads on tv have been screaming it.

Like I said, you're a skimmer mosquito.

Ignore Kaziklu.

>People of the future are going to look back at our media and think white people were total scumbags. Especially the British.

I honestly think that is is the current agenda going on with most things getting shit on today

Not really, it was just an evil empire where everyone worse spacesuits. To show that they had to constantly go around in space unlike the locals in Tatooine.

The nazis were never an empire, they were just conquerors.

>Drawing parallels is different from "Nazis in space." They might as well draw swastikas on space ships at this point. They aren't "inspired" by something previously seen, they're just reusing it whole.
This thread alone should inform you about how they're not just "Nazis in space"

Fair enough. Agree to disagree.

Anime is shit.

It is. They're trying to rewrite history. The Jews did the same regarding their "slavery" in Egypt.

>someone please think of the children?! They aren't be indoctrinated with MY liberal/republican politics!

This is how you sound right now if you'received actually serious. Christ, you faggots have been cucked into becoming the new generation of soccer moms on both sides.

Not to mention nazi=empire comparisons have been made since before you were born, they just added trump to it for attention.

It's not even about politics. It's about white genocide and anti-white media.

If it were then how come people complain about TFA being so stale?