Who would win in a fight? Gandalf or Dumbledore?

Who would win in a fight? Gandalf or Dumbledore?

Gandalf is literally a god
Dumbledore is literally a fag

dumbledore literally got killed my a fart

Gandalf

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but the gods in gandalf's universe are weak-assed betas compared to the wizards of harry potter universe. they can't teleport they need horses or eagles or rabbits. their staffs can't shoot death curses they're just mega flashlights. dumbledore would just teleport behind gandalf and magic him into a chipmunk.

more important question:

how many muggles do you need to BTFO the death eaters? wizards in HP never appear to be that powerful, nothing a good few weapons couldnt solve

wasn't a lotr wizard (saruman?) killed by a pistol shot in the animated version?

nah, they are actually powerful, just look at sauron.
Gandalf is just a really good guy who dosen`t like to show off. Remember when he became "The White" and said to Aragon and friends that no weapon they had could harm him? He's really powerful.

swords and arrows can kill gandalf so those same weapons would also btfo gandalfverse gods.

based on what we've seen and read in potterverse, they don't have wands that fire death curses faster than they can say the curse so a machine gun would decimate the death eaters if they can shoot first. but if you present this scenario to rowling, i'm sure she'll come up with something like a machine gun wand from parrot feather and beak squawking curses rapidly. and she'll pretend that she thought of it years ago but just didn't write it down.

>a literal angel of God vs a literal homo nazi
Hmmm, truly incentivizes one to ponder

>being this reivisionist
tolkienverse was pagan and dumbledore hit people with tazers

>tolkienverse was pagan
You're retarded, dude

I wouldn't even say it was a rate of fire advantage. The only time we ever see the death curse being used is at close range, usually within the same room. Same with other offensive spells.

To pass basic training in the US, you have to be able to engage a target all the way out to 300 meters. That alone laughably outranges any spells we see in Harry Potter. And that's just with a standard issue carbine, it doesn't even consider the fact that machine guns and rifles with optics can effectively engage targets at much, much longer ranges than that.

Let's not even mention tanks and aircraft that can effectively engage targets from several kilometers.

quote when they weren't called gods (maira)

The problem with this and all the humans would wreck wizards arguments (in old Sup Forums) threads is that wizards can:

>teleport
>use mind control spells
>shapeshift flawlessly

How on earth do you beat this? The US, the most powerful human military in the world, declares war on wizards. Every US political and military leader would be dead, mind controlled, or replaced with a fake within a day. The wizards have no reason to go after humans in a straight fight. It's like arguing that the ancient Romans would wreck the 1800s British because the British sucked at swordfighting.

>Every US political and military leader would be dead, mind controlled, or replaced with a fake within a day
jk rowling's world is retarded and everyone outside of the chamber of secrets movie is a stupid as her so they'd all die to russian hackers stealing their elections

The magic is a lot better for subterfuge than actual warfare.

There are undercover wizards close to prominent real world figures, like the British Prime Minister. We know for a fact they have mind-control spells and potions that make you identical to someone else in every way.

If they were that cold-blooded, they could force a devastating war and wipe out the majority of muggles with ease.

Who is this pure maiden?

young hillary clinton

wizards have shields that will protect them from bullets and artillery and shoot massive firebombs (like in the hogwarts battle) to decimate tanks.

what determine wizard power in hp?

potter like midichlorians?

>Gandalf
>Dumbledore
Merlin would fuck them both in the ass while smoking the dankest weed

Bloodline purity.

human sacrifices and how many people you stole magic shit from

>what determine wizard power in hp?

plot armor and rowling's mood

This is just my subjective interpretation, but I think it has to do with focus, knowledge, and willpower. You need focus and willpower to channel magic, and knowledge will obviously expand your understanding of magic improving your focus because now you know more specifically what to focus your attention on.

A wizard will always beat a muggle 1 on 1, but magical genes are so recessive there are almost an insignificant amount of wizards compared to muggles, I've heard around 1 million on the entire planet.

If muggles knew about wizards and set out to destroy them they would win with superior collective technology, which is a major reason why the Statute of Secrecy is in place. Back when muggles where using pre-industrial technology they were less dangerous and so it was an open secret that people could use magic.

how many spells you've memorized and potions you learned to mix. hermione was called the greatest witch of her generation because of the massive amount of time she spends memorizing and studying spells.

>A wizard will always beat a muggle 1 on 1
yeah no. give the muggle an automatic gun and he BTFO the wizard with > 5 shots per second while the wizard is trying to remember that one curse he never could recall in defence against the dark arts class

actually nope, wizard would teleport behind muggle and and mutter "nothing personnel" while stabbing muggle with magic butterknife

Exactly, and she was also extremely focused. Dedicating the time that she did to expanding her knowledge is also a sign of discipline. Harry wasn't as intelligent, but when he needed to he had the willpower to accomplish his goals. Ron never had the same level of focus or discipline, so his abilities were always middling.

I think Rowling herself stated that a muggle with a shotgun would beat a wizard most of the time, assuming it's a stand up fight

rowling has been known to say things that contradict what's written in her own novels. like hermione being black, for example.

Their devotion to Jesus

Depends how the wizards fight. If the apparate into an alley , cast fiend fyre and then fuck off what could you do about it? Just one wizard could destroy a large city with that shit. Fortunately wizards are retarded