Any monarchists here

Any monarchists here

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True, germany was way better with all the little provinces than one big republic.

Hello.

Our monarchy doesn't do anything. I might actual support it if they did more than just spend money and entertain guests.

Either get rid of them or they should actually get involved with stuff.

Why would you like to see all sway in the hand of a single, propably inbred man or woman?
(serious question)
-progress since the fall of monarchies definetly has been made
-the us and a arose without a monarch, after defyeing two monarchies
-monarchs can mentally ill
-monarchs tend to spend ridicolous amounts of money for useless prunkbau
>my key argument:
-to much sway in the hands of one person

>tfw soft libertarian but recognise that constitutional monarchy is the most consistently beneficial long-term political structure

If only people could just get along, maaaaaan.

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Why don't you fuck off to England or somewhere what has a king for you to worship if that's what you want to do? We need scum like you here.

>don't need
Shit, that ruined the whole sentence.

Neo-Monarchical Neocameralism > monarchy > democracy.

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Monarchs have worked since the dawn of civilization look at the degeneracy Republics have caused.

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Hello

monarchy is because archy

>Why would you like to see all sway in the hand of a single, propably inbred man or woman?
(serious question)

Because they have incentive for meritorious governance.

>progress since the fall of monarchies definetly has been made

Technical progress which has been retarded by democratic dysfunction.

>-the us and a arose without a monarch, after defyeing two monarchies

True but we began as an aristocratic republic and have been hared economically by democratization.

>monarchs can mentally ill

>-to much sway in the hands of one person

Which is why you an aristocracy.

>-monarchs tend to spend ridicolous amounts of money for useless prunkbau

Which is still much, much less than democratic welfarism and pork-barrel spending.

of course it is, they're forced to make good choices because their choices are not only stuck with them for the rest of their lives, but also their sons, and their grand sons.

>degeneracy repulics have caused.
what if the republics made it possible to show degeneracy through free speech?
also technological progress
I am still not entirely sure what kind of degeneracy you mean
>incentive for meritorious governance.
and what if not? still can drink and fuck through the day with their unlimited recources and let others do the work
>Technical progress which has been retarded by democratic dysfunction.
ou realise that you are actually using a computer connected with propably hundreds of cumputers at the same time, running software written by tens of thousands of people, made from materials from all over the world
>aristocracy
itt: let the officially inbred rule

Yeah and I'm going to fuck your wife.

Superior Austria-Hungary checking in!

No it was only good with hitler.

>wanting to be oppressed by a monarch
KEKS

>being oppressed by Trudeau

kek

I would die for the queen

sure this (you) was well placed?

>No it was only good with Hitler
>what is Bismarck

this: A. Fucking. Leaf.

Why? She wouldn't die for you.

Yes. I tried to get people to defend republicanism here, but there is no argument for it it seems. I used to be a republican like you, then I realized republicans pushed for every single revolutionary mumbojumbo and society-destroying ideas around
Hoppe and von Kuehnelt-Leddihn turned me monarchist

>not being an anarchist who says fuck all authority
cucks

They do plenty you stupid fuck

The political tests put me at monarch.. But being raised American has really put me off the idea of monarchy.

I do love all the pomp and circumstance that comes with royalty though.

As long as we have a constitution guaranteeing basic human rights. Need muh freedoms

World was better when monarchies still existed, republics are the jew's best idea yet it allows them to control entire countries completely without the moronic masses realizing it.

Elections are a waste of time and nothing more than a divide and conquer tactic.

thats not how it works. she the queen of britain and the commonwealth. i owe my allegiance to her majesty, protector of the realm

I hope you're an anarchist with a full arsenal of modern weapons then, or I'll just take from you what I want.

>Neo-Monarchical Neocameralism
what now?

The true anti-jewish model of government.

Bonus If absolutist

>Implying a King will not be immune from ideologies
>Implying 80 year rule of a socialist-leaning king won't ruin everything

A good King can MAGA, but a single shitty king can end it all.

Bad bait.

>not realising they bring in more money than they costs due to giving all money they make from their huge estates to the government since the 19th century

>muh magic paper

Meant to say

>Implying a King will be immune from ideologies

You get my point

which political test?

/monarchy/ here

STD

All laws, decrees, constitutions, mandate, proclamations and dictum are written on "magic Paper" you fucking idiot. Governments establish authority through written word and the application of force. Are you arguing against the principle of human rights(and that they should be defended by the governing body) or are you pointing out the obvious fact that all laws are words on paper?

>not wanting your nation to have a strong, traditional leader
>wanting to allow all forms of degeneracy and bring an end to your nation
A. FUCKING. LEAF.

find me a freer country than the one ran by this guy

It pisses me off seeing Americans thinking the right to vote is what makes them free. It's mainly the first and second amendment that does it. Seeing the second amendment being constantly attacked is annoying. And they are slowly moving towards it.


They absolutely can. However most kings are trained from birth to do the job, mostly by their fathers. So it's fair to say that they inherit the ideology along with their title.

That said, if they are doing disastrous things after disastrous thing, you do in a way get a vote of no confidence and replace him. Obviously, through violence.

I think a constitutional monarchy is the way.

They do plenty in a conventional sense. But they should to more actively, yes.

Do you even have to ask?

dank meme

Nowhere in Europe monarchs stopped degeneracy, they're useless for that.

Want a king? We will give you ours

>HURR IF WE PLAY NEPOTISM WE CAN PICK BETTER LEADERS
>HURR REPUBLICS ARE JUST BIG POPULARITY CONTEST

Democracy is a meme.

He'll be raised since birth to rule.
Notice that bad kings are usually usurpers or are kings that get the throne after many pretenders with better claim died

Its more likely a King be a good ruler than a president being a good ruler

>not being an arachnist who says fuck all to bugs 'n shit

You disappoint me Germany-kun. You were born in the nation that would have been breeded into a multi-culti shithole if not for fascism. The reason west Germany recovered so well after the war was because Hitler had made so many advancements for you in economics and industry and raised a superior generation which is beginning to die out now to the Jewish raised generation. Even now you are the economic leader of Europe.

Nothing makes an American sperg out like monarchs. For this reason alone they are worth it.

Death in June are a bunch of degenerates.

>The reason west Germany recovered so well after the war was because Hitler had made so many advancements for you in economics

This is actually factually false. Germany was a ruin. Opening Germany to the free market actually made it what it is now.

>Even now you are the economic leader of Europe.

Like this fucking means anything.

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If kings and queens are so good leaders why have they all in Europe lost their power to politicians? All monarchs with any power left are in Africa, Middle East and Asia, and usually not in countries where life is that good for average citizen.

And the Windsors the epitome of good leadership, huh?

Only one monarch could ever reign in America.

>Be Rothschild bankers
>Hear about New World
>Decide to fund some british faggots into making a new state to get gold
>Make these british faggots have no monarchy but a representative republic so we can control everything in their state without anyone knowing
>Tell the british faggots to talk about freedom as that always get monkeys excited for a rebellion
>Fund these faggots armies so they would one day revolt against Britain so we can off some white goyim and if victorious we can expand the idea to Europe
>Use the ideas to destroy every monarchy in Europe and trick the idiots into thinking republics are a good idea
>Overtime plant operatives in European parliaments that project our ideas then get some of our in leading positions in European governments to pull our agendas
>Keep doing the democracy propaganda so the white goyim dont realize whats happening

Fuck off you piece of shit with your shitty ass thread. If you like monarchism so much I heard hell has one ran by Lucifer so go check it out asshole.

Because jews instigated the French Revolution which spread the idea that monarchy was bad and democratardy was good.

This. A monarch is the one person in the whole world actually bound to a nation until death.

monarchy and aristocracy is degenerate and dysgenic, nice edgy meme

In my historical experience, the bad kings are usually those that inherited a long-lasting dynasty.

Corruption, pride, and lack of interest in ruling is common for a birth king.

Usually a strong man with a vision are great kings, and they tend to be usurpers, albeit violent ones.

Democracy was temporary the zionist true scheme is to trick morons into voting for a communist government which will actually be a kike dictatorship like Communist Russia was.

you ever heard of magic? the wizards rule this earth

>implying rule by birth right is better than rule by meritocracy

This is why constitutional monarchy is so important. It's called checks and balances. You literally inherited this from us and put it into your Constitution.

>Any republic is ruled by the best person for the job.

Can you give a quick history lesson Britanon? When and why did the monarchy start giving away their powers?

I know Victoria made some laws giving more powers to the parliament or something like that. Nothing violent.

monarchists are the ultimate cucks blindly obeying some random retard

Magna Carta

15 June 1215

Ensuring basic property rights and due process for the nobles, at the very least.

>meritocracy
There is no meritocracy you are fucking retarded if you think voting for a person is meritocracy and not a popularity contest, the candidates cant even focus on real issues because most republic goys are mindless idiots looking for gibs so they have to lie about fake promises just to get votes, they waste alot of money to get votes its all about getting votes.

Why cant you republic goys understand the phrase LIFE IS UNFAIR?

not in a democratic republic, but in an authoritarian fascist republic it would be so

I suggest reading the Kikeipedia article on it. It's comfy.

Same can be said with democracy, except this time "random retard" is "random retard that can speak well and is popular"

you are bad troll

Not even obeying since there are no orders, for Europeans it's just a personality cult for the entire royal family. Might as well hype any celebrities.

confusing meritocracy with democracy

you are a fucking kek sir. meritocracy is explicitly anti Democratic, ever heard of technocracy and dictatorship? the principles of meritocracy form its foundation

Reporting in.

Well yes Magna Carta and all, but the monarch still had a pull well into the 19th century.

Anyways I'll look up the history myself.

you're a fucking retarded

The idea of kingship is based on the false assumption that a man is exactly the same as his father.

Just look at Trumps autistic sons.

No you are retarded because you believe in nonsense like equality in a world where inequality is default state of existence.

>Hitler was the best person for the job

He was so good that generals revolted against him and lamented his retarded decisions. Your premise is based upon a 'Gattaca' scenario, wherein people must be judged on a basis of universality.

Basically, it will never work.

Monarchy is the best form of government because a person is held PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE for his government.

The current republic-democracy-bureaucracy hybrid we have is an abomination and nobody ever gets punished for their fuckups.

inequality through strength and competition as is the will of nature, not this birth right cuckoldry. a leader who doesn't even have to prove his virtue or intelligence? disgusting

The problem with a pure meritocracy will be that whoever is in charge at the time will change the requirements for it ensuring that whoever they choose will be the leader. I agree with meritocracy on lower levels, like a military general or a CEO,
(or a monarchs advisers, which benefits the monarch).

but when in such a powerful and glorified place being the sole ruler, I fail to see how it won't go bad. A solution would be to have unchangeable requirements for it, however technology change over time so it may not end up being whoever is the wisest after a certain point.

thats why we need to encforce equality by dragging down the strong

Has there been an uptick in nrx autism posts over the past few days?

>cleaning up useless political ideologics since the beginning of time
>fell to technocrats

sucks for KANGZ.

Well, that establishes the 'start' as you asked. Parliament was given more powers steadily up until the Civil War because of money, and the King's need for more of it. Other factors are there, of course.

After the Civil War the power shifted to Parliament being on top. This is a basic rundown.

Those two events are important.

What are rich kids? They are born with a life better than others as I said before you are a fucking retard that cant understand that inequality is the default state of existence as a lifeform.

I dont care how butthurt you are that one guy is born to rule and you dont thats just reality faggot you dont get what you want.