Why is stem propaganda so much in pop culture and why do the left cling so much to it like an identity?

Why is stem propaganda so much in pop culture and why do the left cling so much to it like an identity?

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why does every fucking thread on this board have to be political

What does Rick have against Nazis?

Didn't Rick kill like a thousand times more people than Hitler, and doesn't he also hate Jews?

this clip was literally in season 1

you know, when it wasn't yet cool to be an ironic nazi

Rick is a libertarian ancap, he hates all socialists, or even the idea of government in general.

>the left
because "the left" have written and directed every half-decent tv show and film in living memory.
almost every creative person tends to be left wing. people on the right tend to go into sensible professions like law, politics, etc.

Maybe because liberals shoehorn their ideology in everything they touch which is the majority of entertainment? But what do I know.

When was the last TV show or movie that praised literature and philosophy as much as every show airing wanks over science based careers?

Akshyually according to Rick and Morty's wikipedia page he is influenced by Sartre, a Communist.

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and apparently they tend to bitch on Sup Forums quite a lot

>Maybe because liberals shoehorn their ideology in everything they touch which is the majority of entertainment? But what do I know.
well good luck arguing against that. creative people tend to be liberal. that's been the case throughout human history and is very unlikely to change.

STEM is one of the main pillars behind modernity, the further we stray away from the god the closer we get to (((nihilism))) and (((science)))

Ackshully, he's influenced by doc from back to the future

you know, that popular movie that justin roiland parodied with literal dick sucking?

nowhere near as much as people on the right complaining about liberal ideology in their entertainment, though.

i think that if you're right wing and you're reading this, maybe write your own screenplay, novel, play or spec script? dont put any ideology in it at all. if it's funny and has bipartisan appeal it shouldn't be long before it's picked up, right?

the reason this idea sounds so far fetched is because people on the right aren't funny and can't write believable characters.

because you're on Pol2.0

>dont put any ideology in it at all
Then it won't get picked up by a (((studio)))

I was there a couple years ago. I'm doing an MS in math now, but it's mostly just because I love the people and problem solving. It's a fucking rush to feel like you're part of some elite group of intellectuals. I'm without a doubt pretty advanced in mathematical ability. People who will never experience that level of competition uphold us like we're some paragon of liberalism.

Because we made the golden lamb from IQ.
The new strong religion.

no that guy's right. harmon wouldn't base rick's ideology around libertarianism because he thinks libertarianism is stupid.

ITT: concepts that rural and suburban retards will never be intelligent enough to understand

>MS in math
>elite group of intellectuals
Umm sweetie...

Every fucking show has this shit in it now, cunt.

Twin Peaks was literally the only respite, beyond that Duchovny Denise cameo.

oh right, of course. it's all the fault of the jews. except you could just put it on youtube, or reach out to networks like FOX, or just stage it locally.
the real reason is that it's far easier to bitch about things other people have made than it is to make something yourself.

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>your reading comprehension

correction: liberal politics have played well in western media for the last 30 years, which created a feedback loop requiring conservatives to either tuck their conservative wang or become a ridiculous Fox News Cartoon person for media success.

And bear in mind that carpentry, or any of the trades (AKA THE MOST SENSIBLE PROFESSIONS ONE CAN HAVE WITH GUARANTEED FINANCIAL AND PROFESSIONAL SECURITY) is essential to media production, so the bias doesn't really make any sense when you consider craftsmen of all kinds come together to make media.

Tim Allen, Chevy Chase and Roseanne Barr are good (but aged) examples of conservative or right-from-center people seeing success in the classic hollywood system.

So basically you're completely wrong and don't seem to grasp anything about the interplay between politics, careers and entertainment.

you're shoehorning your ideology into my board right now

it makes me smile when people realise that the people who write and direct TV don't think like them. They're smarter than you, that's why they disagree with you.

>that's the way it's always been
I'm pretty sure the whole "if you've got dark skin or a foreign religion or a really weird sexual fetish that makes you objectively better than everyone else" thing only started relatively recently

Like Da Vinci wasn't exactly painting "#SaracensWelcome" murals, no matter how "liberal" he might have been, you know?

Are they evil? Or worse.... Are they smart?

Wow it's almost like Da Vinci lived in the 15th century

>creative people tend to be liberal
liberal and left wing progressivism are pretty separate things pal

>Sartre says something unrelated to communism, Dan Harmon later has Rick say something similar

>Therefore Rick is commie

>creative people tend to be liberal. that's been the case throughout human history

I acknowledge that but we have to distinguish how the term liberal changed over time. Sure, people like Orwell were straight up socialists but look at how critical they viewed their own political side and the people abusing the very belief system they tried to push themselves. Liberalism used to be an idea, no an ideal to strive for. Nowadays it's an ideology far from the original fight for individual freedom but a state of mind that comes with the obligation to smear and discredit anything and anyone not in agreement with your political goals. Also being a creative liberal didn't always mean you have to incorporate your political beliefs in your work.

it is, isn't it. and it's almost like your definition of liberal is entirely self serving.

>nitpicking politics in a cartoon

So it takes the teeth out of "that's the way it's always been" since somehow your proud antecendents were both left-wing progressives but also fucking white cis male fascists

Pic related

Hmmm, almost as if your comparison is retarded

Thats an absolute strawman, and its equivalent to saying that the majority of right leaning artists promote racism.

Stepping off the internet for 2 seconds and just talking to real people will make it immediately obvious how dispraportionately extreme it makes modern politics appear.

>Roseanne Barr
wasn't she a big part of the green party? isn't she now part of another left wing independent party?

>Tim Allen and Chevy Chase
these people are, for starters, actors, and you'll notice that their "politics" comes more from having the political discourse move past where it was when they were in their heyday than from a conscious effort to "be right wing". Who's watching Tim Allen or Chevy Chase's stand up specials? No-one, because without left wing writers behind them they're no good.

>And bear in mind that carpentry, or any of the trades (AKA THE MOST SENSIBLE PROFESSIONS ONE CAN HAVE WITH GUARANTEED FINANCIAL AND PROFESSIONAL SECURITY) is essential to media production, so the bias doesn't really make any sense when you consider craftsmen of all kinds come together to make media.
while i agree that a lot of the more sensible professions tend to skew right, we're talking about the creative side of the industry that actually writes and directs the entertainment we're talking about here.

>liberal politics have played well in western media for the last 30 years, which created a feedback loop requiring conservatives to either tuck their conservative wang or become a ridiculous Fox News Cartoon person for media success
but even further back than this, if you're talking about pretty much all painters in history, the vast majority of novellists, etc.

>So basically you're completely wrong and don't seem to grasp anything about the interplay between politics, careers and entertainment.
if you really wanted to try and prove me wrong you should have mentioned some of the more famous conterexamples to my point, like Dostoyevsky (there's a case he was "right wing", but imo it breaks down when you look at it closely enough) or Pound.
you could have also mentioned Ayn Rand, and maybe Nietzsche, though again his politics are often coopted.

don't derail

You can see how bad the identity politics cancer has gotten just in the last 10 years.

The labor, antiwar and environmental movements are all fucking dead, sacrificed on the altar of muh skin color and muh gender. You can't blame a "conservative" boogeyman for self-inflicted wounds like this.

read this and you'll know

I fucking hate this place too

every fucking thread is like participating in a live action advertisement that is trying to kill you and/or take over your mind

moot sold Sup Forums to either a russian front or any of the rich faggots with their dick up the current presidents orange retarded asshole

ok fair enough. i'll stick to saying "left wing" then. people on this board tend to clump it all together into the term "liberal" so I used that.

I didn't write what you're replying to.

>tumblr pic
>muh russia
>le orange president

some of us are aware of the agenda infecting every public form. things are so politically motivated right now (see your post) that it's impossible not to talk about it. it seems to me you only disagree over the existence of these things.

lol. drumpf is orange. lol. like a f****n carrot or a nacho!

You brought up da Vinci you retard

>shoehorns shitty politics into post
>"libs are shoehorning their ideologies!"

fuckoff idiot

>Also being a creative liberal didn't always mean you have to incorporate your political beliefs in your work.
no but your worldview is inevitably part of anything you write. the general left wing worldview hasn't changed, the political climate has.

take this thread, for instance. we're arguing over someone wearing a swastika being beaten up. 20 years ago that'd be no big deal. It'd be something that both sides of the aisle could have a good chuckle at.

Now, even identifying the idea that you think that Neo-nazis should be able to be used as a cardboard cut-out "villain" gets people on the right into a fucking uproar. See: this thread.

>reddit spacing
>tumblr pic

you're a mess

Moral relativism. Nobody ever did anything wrong if you look at the social context, so why did the Nazis? Stop being such a cultural supremacist.

And people think this man could have been the president LMAO.

Trump would fucking crush those idiots

I do agree that people with a liberal sort of disposition tend to be more creative. what I don't think is that there is any modern liberal political movement in America. the ability to understand the modern left wing in American politics probably has more to do with an individuals creative capacity than does being part of the movement, which is dogmatic and oppressive, not liberal.

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>some of us are aware of the agenda infecting every public form
this is the #1 thing i don't understand about Sup Forums. like, you won. Trump won. let liberals make jokes about it, who cares? You won! You can't just expect screenwriters aren't going to write about it, because it doesn't work like that.

Trump won the election! Why are people on the right so upset that not everyone has adopted their worldview within 6 month? It's so juvenile.

>Like Da Vinci wasn't exactly painting "#SaracensWelcome" murals, no matter how "liberal" he might have been, you know?

This is what happens when you learn about politics on Sup Forums

Trump would have tucked his tail and ran off stage because hes an entirely self serving egotist who only appears tall when the idiots he has manipulated give him a platform.

the election is over but there's a culture war we're waging every day

But how would you know that? All you see are articles about college campuses (which have always been the breeding ground for lunatic fringe politics), and protests, in which people are angry, so they're going to behave like angry people behave.

You make it sound like any kind of thought that isn't at least to the right of Trump's public position on something is some kind of disease.

user, the answer is autism coupled with virgin rage.

well argued fellow redditor

>stop with this propaganda!
>it's just people beating up a nazi

You're butthurt over this? My god that's pathetic.

OP is a russian linked bot created to dislodge American democracy. pls ignore.

>You make it sound like any kind of thought that isn't at least to the right of Trump's public position on something is some kind of disease.
I don't think so. I think Trump is more of a liberal than Hillary was. I don't agree with everything he does, but I did vote for him because he was going to make an effort in putting down this left wing insanity.

You keep proving it.

But here's my point. If you win the culture war and everyone agrees with you, the world will be a very boring place. Everyone will go into sensible money-making professions, and quality creativity falls off a cliff.

And the TV shows would just fucking suck. It would be a million different flavours of panel show and reality TV, because they're the cheapest to produce and they get the best ratings. That's my point. If you 100% believe that capitalism is flawless, then the cheapest, most cost-effective shows are the best. And all of TV would go the same way that MTV has over the last 20 years.

>I know something you don't know
god you're so fucking smart please teach me how

so you're saying the leftists need to win the culture war so the world stays interesting?

You elected someone into the most powerful position on Earth because you believed a short vocabulary and a brash attitude could somehow stifle expressionsim that resulted from over 200 years of race relations in America, the country known for its freedom of expression, in the year 2017 when communication and organization is easier than its ever been in the history of the world.

Youre a fucking idiot.

help

I disagree with your categorization of me.

dude youre arguing with a trump supporter on the internet. its like trying to argue with a 5 year old that water is wet. you are the true idiot here.

I also disagree with this categorization of me. Try to find a pattern here my enlightened liberal friends.

>most powerful position on Earth

lol

>i voted for trump
>i disagree im not a trump supporter

youre a fucking idiot as well. everyone itt is stupid af delete this abomination mods

I just don't want you to categorize me like that. Is that so much to ask?

ornammage hwnlo???
Obange pereisdent

youre all the same dude doesnt matter

What I'm saying is that, by all means, wage the cultural war. But you can't just criticise the existing culture. Think about what the culture that replaces it will look like. There needs to be people on the right willing to step up and actually create "culture" that replaces the culture people are criticising in this thread. Because every show can't be "Suits". And MDE was only funny for like 5 minutes.

People on the left have this unspoken bond with people on the right. Like, "you get to have all the money and political power, just let me draw my little cartoons about how I see the world". But now, that's not enough for people on the right. You've decided you need total control. Paul Joseph Watson said that "Conservatism is the new Punk Rock". But who's your "Sex Pistols"? Steve Bannon? If conservatism is the new punk rock, where are the songs?

That's why he's an idiot.
Libertarianism is based af

You're demonstrating to me my point about the "liberals" very well. Thank you for cooperating.

>>>>>>>>>>>>Samefag

>, the world will be a very boring place.
No, it wouldn't. It would be a very fun and nice place.

nice try

>youre all the same

Shit, it must be so comforting to be this ignorant.

>open to new behavior or opinions and willing to discard traditional values.
"they have more liberal views toward marriage and divorce than some people"
2.
(of education) concerned mainly with broadening a person's general knowledge and experience, rather than with technical or professional training.

oh no i hope im not a "liberal" lol fucking idiot. kill yourself.

le epic bitchslap 4 the win wish i could upboat + give gold duuuude

That's interesting considering liberals are the ones that are obsessed with stifling expressionism

Sure, but there would be no decent music, art, tv or films. Video games would come away fine. But it just irks me that it's not enough that you won the election, you now have to dispose of all the things I enjoy because you don't agree with the worldview of the people creating them.

Not to mention the fact that it just won't work.

i study politics, culture, and sociology. it feels good to know statistically significant data. go keep arguing out libs, sjw, and global warming though. its hilarious to me.

keep it up

1.) Video games are for children
2.) I don't care what you enjoy. Kill yourself.

stop arguing politics on Sup Forums you retards. you fat virgins jackoff to this shit its pathetic.

I don't care that people are creating content that I don't agree with nor that it's the mainstream. I disagree with how the government, especially under Obama, has incentivized the spread of certain forms of content and morality that seem to me to reduce personal accountability.

>That's interesting considering liberals are the ones that are obsessed with stifling expressionism
are you missing some sort of irony gland

keep it up

you're like a sophomore in college maybe? female?

this point is so vague i can't really figure it out.

do you ever get the feeling that you've been manipulated into fighting, for free, for a cause that doesn't care about you?