Nihilism

Mountains, oceans planets they all come and go in a blink of an eye. If we do manage to survive the combine threats of global warming, eternal cooling,a dwindling magnetic field, asteroids, solar flares, black holes, jews, niggers, sandniggers, nothing changes the fact that our son continuous an unavoidable countdown to death. Even if we did manage to flee to distant stars, they all equally marching to their own annihilation. Time and events work to destroy all that we ever comprehended, the decay of all matter as we know it, the decay off all life as we know it. One really has to wonder: what is the point of anything? Why continue? Why progress? Life is even in its most advanced state is doomed to non-existence. Why, why go on?
Give me illusions that my life has a meaning! That anything I do: love, hate, drink, fuck has a meaning, not just fucking around until my inevitable death.

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Nigga look, in the grand scheme of things, we are short lived compared to the massive mechanisms of the universe

Why care? Enjoy life while it lasts

B-b-but hedonism is degenerate.

You can enjoy life without overindulging

If you burn out on it then you will not be able to experience it again later

The sad part is, once you have life figured out, it'll be almost time to go

These thoughts are essentially irrelevant. Determinism results in the conclusion that one may as well live with free will, and if that is the case, you can chose whatever you want.

What man, meme scientist, or whatever, lives their lives as if there is no choice? None. So live it with choice, and strive for that one thing all humans strive for: transcendence.

>we are short lived compared to the massive mechanisms of the universe
We are short lived compared to the existence of our race,too.
What your saying is that we shouldn't racewar then?

The difference is
We both looked into the abyss but when it looked back at us you blinked

If you can figure out what this means you can come back if not
It doesn't matter

Imagine a hypothetical future.

Humans have discovered, mapped, and gone throughout the entire universe.

Humans know everything down to the tiniest of levels. Details such as the ammount of water in a leaf from plant X324675 from planet V2C44478. Basically humans know and have documented everything.

And humans have the power to do almost anything. They can travel anywhere almost instantly. They can move stars and galaxies around, et cetera.

Then what?

>The sad part is, once you have life figured out, it'll be almost time to go

I think you're confusing "gained understanding" and acceptance.

>Then what?
My point was that no matter how evolved we could became - it doesn't matter - when we're doomed, and without a purpose either way.

That's a good thing, once you realize how unimportant your existence is you're off the existential hook and free to do what YOU want and not what you think you SHOULD do.

Most people are held back from a happy life by all the spooks they have in their head about god judging them, failing to meet their destiny, letting down their ancestors, disappointing their parents, not being unique enough, not improving the world in whatever way, failing to meet whatever standard given by others, being socially rejected ect ect when none of it fucking matters at all.

And before all the unemployed porn addicts of Sup Forums go on about m-muh degeneracy keep in mind most peoples idea of a happy life is simply having loved ones to look after, meanwhile you can talk someone into doing absolutely horrible things with the aforementioned spooks.

Yeah, the universe is nihilistic in nature. But we create value and meaning for ourselves, user. Who the fuck cares if there is no objective meaning or purpose to it all? Is the value you and others have in you without significance? Sort out what you really want out of life, be the change you want to see, do your best to make yourself and people you care about happy. Feed your ego (constructively of course) and do things that will earn you self esteem every day.

To prosper and find joy, to create meaning, love, to smile in the face of oblivion is the ultimate conquest of mankind, the greatest triumph of the human spirit.

That's what I meant when I was describing that future.

I think the best things humans can do is work to gain a further understanding of ourselves and the universe. To explore and to collect knowledge and power over the things we come across. And by power I mean the ability to manipulate something in whatever way we choose, it doesn't have to be a bad manipulation.

But even so in the end if we somehow managed to gain this great knowledge, power, influence. What's the point.

Eventually we'll have learned everything, seen everything, experienced nearly everything, and have the power to do almost anything. And then what?

Reminder that the first philosophical decision is whether to believe your own brain and your own senses, and that that decision is entirely based on muh feels.

Reminder that there's no way to prove or disprove inherent meaning other than your feels.

Reminder that nihilism isn't any more philosophically valid than believing in something, you just FEEL like your life and being are meaningless.

>That's a good thing, once you realize how unimportant your existence is you're off the existential hook and free to do what YOU want and not what you think you SHOULD do.

What do you find enjoyable?

Obviously everyone finds something enjoyable but what do you really enjoy?

Doing yer mum

Couldn't you say that about anything.

You always feel one way or another about something you think.

You live because you have to. We are the current products of billions of years of physical, chemical, biological and socio-technological evolution, each a fracture time-interval than the one before. Want to see something grandiose, something truly awe-inspiring? Then watch as global civilization devours the last of the planets resources and itself, like a bunch of blind backteria on an enourmus petri-dish. The death of complexity is already underway.

I never really had something that I loved or cared for.Never had any goal in life, all my life I just went with the flow.My mother beat me, and dispized me, because I didn't care that my sister and father died in a car accident.Edgy right?
On the matter that if I find something enjoyable, I was alcoholic for the better part of my life.Sometimes I go to work to support my NEET life and booze.And that's my life.I don't find the company of my friends enjoyable so I cut them off entirely.My only reason to live is just playing video games drunk, and posting in Sup Forums.

Never become a dad it changes every fucking thing I use to be just like you then boom I was a dad and thousands of years of genetics and instinct took over
Like a parasite I was no longer me but this freaked out being taking care of something that meant more than anything in this world
It's a fucking weird experience that has more to do with our animal selves than our damn brain that knows shit
Stay nihilist or have a kid and become a caveman these are your choices

One day I'll dream that I'll take a break from working on some hobby and decide to check Sup Forums for old times sake, only to discover the board is completely abandoned.

Not because we've finally been muted, finally been blocked and censored, but because the world finally fixed itself and we didn't need to be so collectively angry and vigilant together anymore. We had things to do, places to be and we were all happy enough and occupied that we didn't need each other any more.

One day maybe that dream will come true.

Wasn't that the ending to the dark knight rises

Would you be disappointed if your kid(s) was dumber than you?

And not in a oh he just doesn't apply himself kind of way.

But in a he's legitimately less inteligent than you in measurable ways kind of way.

Things like as moon man does? In political level of course. Some maybe on the more close to earth ways.

Nihilism is the ultimate redpill. You get past all the bullshit and come to understand the truth. That a human-centric worldview produces all of our so-called meaning, our religion, our philosophy, values, ethics, etc., and removing yourself of that human-centric worldview causes all of those things to melt away.

We still live, we have joy, and peace, and happiness, and unhappiness and all that causes it and goes with it. That doesn't change. It's a blessing, I think, to realize it, as it unshackles us from so many modes of control. We are mysterious beings, trapped between two mysteries, Life and Death, with nothing written in stone. I think it's kinda beautiful.

People often think that if you are a nihilist, you will rape and kill and pillage. I don't get that leap. Some might, but hell, people who are not nihilists do those things too. I think it would cause you to calm down about shit and just go with the flow, and enjoy it while you can. There's no reason to live, I suppose, but there is no reason to die, either.

Could you answer this ? I'm very curious

No once they're able to talk and walk the feeling goes away then you hit this way of thinking that's like fuck now I gotta live for this cunt and depending on how he becomes it's my responsibility
Currently Trying to turn him into a badass every now and then I'll tell him He annoys me and it hardens him
It's a unique experience seeing the way he becomes it's like trying to figure out what made me
I guess it's basically you change from playing video games to playing with a human that's yours
I often think of having another to see what happens if I raise that one telling it everyday I love it and giving it gifts

Where does the universe end?

At the earth? No the earth is a part of the universe

At you? No you are a part of the universe

At the tiniest string? No the string is a part of the universe

The universe is everything that has ever been

The universe is you, you are the universe

You are the universe experiencing itself

Now shut the fuck up

You wont die until the universe dies since both of you are the same entity

Your vore fetish is showing japan

>There's is not reason to live

Neither to die

>2016
>failing for the nihilistic jew.

be a good goy and remember not to fight for your life goy , everything is lost so just let (((them))) have it all.

>Tfw it's a simulation

I personally enjoy poetry, movies and television, music, and drinking. When I drink I get very peaceful, kind, patient and sensitive to things like music. It brings out the best in me and induces a state of euphoria. I read quite a bit and enjoy sports, socializing in small amounts, I'm 35 so I don't really play video games too much, I do play in a d&d group however. I live a pretty full life on the whole.

It all comes down to two things, which one do you believe?
1) Life has inherent meaning
2) Life does not have inherent meaning

The first is often expressed by people with religious point of views. The inherent purpose of life is to glorify god, for example, is a common reply.

The second view, I think, is more common than people believe, and it's the heart of nihilism. It means that nothing you do matters, human life is a zero sum game, some day we will all be gone along with all life, and nothing we have done will have mattered. But in the meantime, we have meaning, personal/relative meaning in our lives.

I see the whole nihilism thing as a result of the inherent conflict in these two viewpoints.

That's rough user, no doubt about it. You sound like you are in a depressive cycle, and along with the alcohol, it's going to be hard as fuck to shake. You know best what you need to do to get your life back on track, but as we've established, you can't because you don't know what you really want, hence the nihilism.
Like I say man, you've got to start with little things. Don't set out to do 20 push ups, just do one. At this stage you will just put off doing the 20 and end up doing none. Follow? And if you actually get down on that floor and do one, while your there, you might decide why not just one more? Do that a few times a day and you could up doing 20 no problem. Maybe you don't. But at the end of the day, in that time you normally reserve for regretting all the things you didn't do that day, thinking about if death would be better, at least you have that one push-up. You accomplished something today that you didn't yesterday, and from there you can draw strength to do something tomorrow.
Hang in there, increase your worth in your own eyes, do something to improve your self-esteem every day. Fucking depression man, I know its hard. We're gonna make it though, bro.

The way I see it, we are given two purposes in life.

1. To enjoy it to the best of our abilities

If you don't enjoy life yourself, you don't know what you're fighting for and you won't understand why we fight like we do.

2. To make sure that future generations are able to enjoy it as well

We must do our parts in stopping the world from turning into a 1984 shithole where niggers and shitskins outnumber whites. That's a society nobody would be happy to live in. Any action you take could change the course of human history; from deciding to actually go out and vote to taking a shit, you never know what it could cause. So enjoy it, and make sure others can enjoy it as well.

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>nothing matters why live.

Spotted the fucking teenage.

>a blink of an eye
>combine threats
>eternal cooling
>son
>they all equally
>life is even
PROOF-READ YOUR CANCER, FAGGOT

You again.

>can't give arguments against Nihilism
>so it was made by the Joos

>2. To make sure that future generations are able to enjoy it as well
I see what you are saying, but I disagree with this second statement. If you find yourself thinking like an existential nihilist, then I think that you will come to the conclusion that "it all" begins and ends with you. I don't buy that we have some duty to care what happens after we die. We really have no control over it as an individual anyway. And getting involved with a movement of thousands of people seems like a good way to court unhappiness. If you have kids you might make sure they are taken care of when you die, but anything more seems pointless.

>then I think that you will come to the conclusion that "it all" begins and ends with you
But you don't end after your death. The memories of you will still be in the heads and maybe in the books of other people.

I have masters degree in engineering, and I'm pretty fit.I'm not an underachiever when it comes to sexual partners neither.And it's not like I can't get a job, I just don't feel I should work when I can just enjoy my life drunk and without contributing anything and work only If I have to.

>Give me illusions that my life has a meaning! That anything I do: love, hate, drink, fuck has a meaning, not just fucking around until my inevitable death.

Human world has no meaning on its own, the only meaning of human life is to get upper worlds after death. God doesn't give you the whole picture because he wants that you walk toward him with faith and not with the intellect. You have the choice between light and dark my friend.

> peacful drinker
> enjoys culture
> plays D&D

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>Gondola showing emotion

Shit tier gondola

>It all comes down to two things, which one do you believe?
>1) Life has inherent meaning
>2) Life does not have inherent meaning

I think an explanation would be better than a meaning.

>But you don't end after your death.
Be careful with being overly poetic. I do end when I die. Yes, if I kick over an anthill and then die, it stays kicked over. As a being of matter in a world of matter I leave an imprint that continues after I die. But I don't continue in consciousness. It seems like idealism to say "this thing has to be preserved beyond my death" or "this thing has to be prevented from happening after my death". So what? We are like strangers in the world, moving through it largely in confusion. I don't care in the least what happens after I die. If I had children, as I said before, I might care about them somewhat. But certainly no political cause, for example, or something like that.

Haha yea I guess it does sound like a hobbit lifestyle.

The issue is that science assumes materialism and materialism cannot properly explain intentionality, which is what you are calling "illusions of meaning".

I RECOGNISE THAT MONOLOGUE

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Nihilism not answer
Hedonism not answer
Ignoring the absence of meaning not answer

Only answer is Christianity

There is reason why western civilization rose to glory as "Christendom"

Christcuck

That movie is an analogy for the battle between nihilism and meaning.

KEK

>not with intellect
Divine logos would like to have word with you

Choose your path or do not

*tip top*

this post is so American I sharted my pants, dog bless

>I think an explanation would be better than a meaning.
Hmm? The purpose of those two options is to strip off the layers of gunk thats grown in your mind and get to the heart of what you believe about existence.

Are you saying you would rather seek an explanation of things rather than seek meaning? Wouldn't finding out esoteric or scientific truths then be your meaning in the end? Most people seek meaning, seeking it is their primary goal in life, yet they don't realize that is what they are actually doing. So in the end, wouldn't the question still be relevant?

When I see these posts I assume they are trolling. The most based redpill answer involves bowing down on your knees and begging a jew for your life? A jew named Joshua who was called King of the Jews, said "salvation is of the Jews", and was described in a book written by a jewish tax collector.
You have to be trolling!

I've heard the Jews are building an alternate universe to escape to when they run out of shekels in this one.

It's sad that people can't keep this perspective in mind. If you realize this picture is how it is then every human being is closer to you than how you now think of your next door neighbor. We should all be so bonded together instead of so divided.

It perfectly fitted to my opinion and it was perfectly written piece on script, so I figured why not just Ctrl-C Ctrl-V

I believe so as well
Nihilism is the lack of fear
They need to fear again and make the jump without the rope

Language is a illusion a trick your mouth do to convey mensages.
You can make anything with language ,even picture stuff doesn't exist, paradise ,hell,bliss.
The illusion of meaning is a trick of the language ,meaning only exist as a concept of your trickle mind a illusion of language.
If you want to kill yourself because Mhu meaning
You just fall in trap of language another pseudojew.
Nothing really matters and that is good news.

if nothing makes sense how did the world come to be in the first place

You act like all of that gives us more meaning on this earth, but to me it seems like it just takes even more of any kind of meaning we have away.

Why test us for such a short amount of time? Why set up everything just for us, all the things he could do.

People like you always say that God is at the center and it's about him, he's most important. But it seems to always really be about you.

God made all of this for you.

Well then what are you agonising over nihilism for if you are enjoying doing what you are doing now?

Vivere Militare dude.

Just live for your porch and all the cool stuff you can do there

We will all feed the void!

Sense and meaning are just illusions of he mind.
Before we came to exist ,no mind construc ever was.

"You" is the separated entity from God. God allowed this separation for the sake of your curiosity. You wanted to experience darkness to more appreciate light. You on your own don't have meaning, only unity with God has, otherwise people disconnected from God would find it but that's not the case.

This is surprisingly wise, and I'm amazed to see this idea expressed here. You are exactly right about language.

How does rain fall? How do babies grow and become born? How does lightning strike? A natural process that unfolds both subtly and grossly all around us causes those things, and I suspect, everything. I suspect that whatever mysteries there are at the moment of the big bang, it was part of a natural process. The human brain has many habits of thinking that, when applied to certain things observable to us, allow us to better understand those things. However, human thought is also by nature unsuitable for understanding many other things, especially subtle things on a subatomic level, or things not observable to us. So trying to use your brain to understand what happened at the big bang is like trying to use slingshot to hunt a whale, x1000.

>salvation is of the Jews
Atheist-tier understanding of the bible
You have to be trolling!

Literally the next verse says the opposite of what you're suggesting. Try reading chapters and books instead of individual verses.
"You adore that which you know not: we adore that which we know; for salvation is of the Jews. [23] But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true adorers shall adore the Father in spirit and in truth. For the Father also seeketh such to adore him"

True God reveals himself through Jewish religion; Jewish religion of 2000 years ago, not talmudist faggotry of today

There is a life beyond this one, and the one who created you has an enemy, and this "why progress at all" attitude is one of his tools.

You may choose not to believe this and be unhappy, or you may open your heart and your mind to new possibilities, and truly see.

"In this world you will have trouble, but take heart, for I have overcome the world." John 16:33

I would think "sensation" is one of the only "real" things we have. It's not objectively real or anything, nothing is, but I know when I'm having a pleasant sensation or a painful one, no room for doubt. It's "thought" and "knowledge" where we get into greater and greater confusion.

Hmm, it's used in a conversation with the Samaritan woman at the well. He was simply saying that salvation is of the Jews because they received the oracles of god, no?

My point, quoting bible verses aside, is that Jesus was a Jew, he lived the life of a Jew, had a Jewish name "Joshua", spoke as a Jew, attended the synagogues as a Jew, read the Jewish law in congregation, taught to Jews, in the manner of the Jews, etc. etc. On a forum where people seem to mistrust the Jews so much, I was just saying it's funny when Christians come in and say "Jesus" is the answer!

I don't really know.I just want maybe more, I want to feel more, I want to live more..And I know that nothing really matters, but I somewhat seeking the opposite, hope that there is a God, Gods, eternal life, salvation.Hell, I'm even in for a hell if it's eternal.But I know it's bullshit.I know it's all just people and their bullshit.

The bible seems to light the fire in the people for some reason, but it's filled with strange stuff. For example, the gospels of Matthew and Luke don't agree on who Jesus' grandfather was.

I've heard lots of ways to explain that, one genealogy is Mary's for example (the bible does not state that) or they are "kingly" genealogies and not literal genealogies, which seems pretty outlandish.

We see the same kind of confusion again later when we try to pin down which of the women went to the empty tomb. None of the four gospels agree precisely. Seems like odd details to get wrong if you are asking me to accept this book on faith.

But truthfully, aside from doing it as an intellectual exercise, I don't wanna debate bible stuff. If you believe it, then that is fine, I would not actively try to get you to leave your faith. It doesn't mean anything to me either way.

Wouldn't it be easier to just create more shekels than an entire alternate universe?

>Wouldn't finding out esoteric or scientific truths then be your meaning in the end?
I think so.

But I see it more as a "second step", or something that would automatically happen once I had the explanation. Let's say I got this explanation, I can't help but then also have a meaning since my original goal was completed.

I see it more as a secondary step or goal because I don't think a meaning would really mean anything to me, if that makes any sense at all.

What good have I with the meaning to my existence? If I knew it would it even change anything, would I live my life differently?

I don't even know what the full repercussions would be. Is the meaning specific to me or is it the same for everyone? Can I even escape my own meaning?

I think my "free will" is very limited, if not an illusion completely so either I've already got it or I was never going to get/complete it all. Knowing the meaning won't change that.

I guess it comes down to I don't really know what people mean by "meaning" when they talk about it in this way. It just doesn't make sense, I can't wrap my head around it.

Knowing/having a meaning seems meaningless.

>You wanted to experience darkness to more appreciate light

No I didn't

Jesus btfo Jews more than anyone in history

Like I said, the Jews of today are a far cry from the Jews of 2000 years ago

A Jew today is basically a denier that Jesus is the Christ

Developments like bans on usury were made in direct response to the Jews

The Catholic Church has a long and "uneasy" relationship with Jews

This is exactly the whole point of verses like these; Jesus is saying "being Jewish used to make you special, but not anymore, now you're going to be judged on whether you adore the father in spirit and truth"

>western/modern civilization
>meaning

That's the issue right there, hopefully it isn't too long till this cycle's end.

Well, you are conscious now, and you were not before that you know. Man, here, watch this it might be of interest: youtube.com/watch?v=9Hi1C4NNnV4

Inb4 Ernest Becker is a Jew

SHART IN MART

As living beings in western society we are swollen with meaning. I see meaning as a natural result of our values. We don't choose our values, so you are right, free will is somewhat limited in that regard.

Basically we have values implanted in us from many sources. Parents, school, government, television, etc. etc. These things are implanted a young age, long before we even realize that it is happening. So you grow up, and you either define yourself by those values, or define yourself by your rejection of them. They are a part of you however, and that, practically speaking, cannot be changed. Now this process is a subtle thing, and most people have no idea its going on. Meaning, in my mind, is simply your refined values, or your values put into motion, or action.

So "meaning" itself is just another name for purpose, significance, as in what, what you think is important, what drives you, what you enjoy, what you seek in life.

He and almost all of his companions were Jews in the most literal way possible. His religion has you bow to him and beg for your life. You seem to be pretty dead-set on explaining it, like I don't get it, but I do. I

I don't take everything in it literally, it is full of symbolism and analogy. Also I was raised Catholic but never really believed, or practiced, until a recent event changed my outlook.

So I am not very versed in it either. I believe time and experience are the only things capable of allowing someone to know God.

Similar to progressives/liberals becoming staunch conservatives after exposure to dindus and mudslimes. Only the Jew-controlled media obfuscates and clouds our judgement, hides the truth and confuses us. It is their goal. Because without God, how can we overcome?

It's not only the Jews we have to fight but also the one they worship.

Jesus was there to free the jews of themselves.
They reject him so he went them to free the slaves of the slaves of Egypt.
Jewish culture is all about slavery,
>We are diferent
>Others are cattle

Jewish people are just paranoid sociopaths who believe everyone is going after them.

>Said the bear

In all seriousness, put it the most succinctly. The only meaning in life is the one you give youself.

sup cunt.

i've been alive for a very, very long time, no shitpost. i'm cursed with re-incarnating every so often in different bodies because my curiosity got the better of me, a long long time ago in what you would call Mesopotamia.

i've seen empires fall, rise, the planet change.

i don't go insane because i don't think too deep about it.

i mean, i just accumulate experiences. i've done a lot of fun things and i will continue to do all sorts of things.

I've been a policeman, a knight, a baker, a politician, a lawyer...

don't stress, life is fleeting and i watch people not enjoying their lives, when they have a lot less time than i do. seems a bit silly to me.

the day i stop finding new things to do is the day i start to worry, but even with my immortality i have always found something to do.

>So I am not very versed in it either. I believe time and experience are the only things capable of allowing someone to know God.
This sentiment is deeply flawed, and could be used by a Muslim, a Christian, a Jew, a Hindu, a pagan Roman, etc. etc to justify their own confused belief. Religion is a stone that many men have broken themselves on, since the beginning of time. Good men who should have known better, but for whatever reason, didn't.

>Shit just kinda happens, man

There's your eternal truth. Anyone else who tells you otherwise, who tries to explain it, or tries to make you think there is some inherent meaning in all of this, is bullshitting you.

Uh ok, dude. It makes sense to you, but it's silly to me. We can agree to disagree.

>Give me illusions that my life has a meaning!

I never felt worse than when I had a job and money in my pocket despite the world telling me that's what I wanted.

It was at that time I realized life wasn't shit but what you make it. If you want to give it a meaning you have to do it yourself.

Don't care about love (or even sex, it's never interested me), houses, cars, careers, or getting old. No ambition or motivation. I'm happy being nothing, as that's the ultimate freedom in my eye.

People say I'm missing out but I don't care, we'll be in the same spot in the end.

Feeling good is good enough for me.

hello newfriend

Bobby McGee?

How are you making a living then?

lol buddism is at the top

Have you read Nietzsche's books? They give good perspective. Once that's done, there is Absurdism. That means you pick a narrative for your life and you stick to it. You become the hero of your own adventure. This includes being religious in a new light if you wish, so long as it brings your life meaning.

>He and almost all of his companions were Jews in the most literal way possible.
For the third time- Jew today =\= Jew of 2000 years ago. Not even close
>His religion has you bow to him and beg for your life.
I usually kneel, and I never "beg for my life" but I wouldn't expect you to have the slightest clue about it
>You seem to be pretty dead-set on explaining it, like I don't get it, but I do. I
You obviously don't. Like I said originally.. Atheists trying to into Christianity. What a laff!

yeah buddhism has ways of attaining enlightement, but there are many other ways
also there is a lot of unnecessary dogma in some branches of buddhism

I work oddjobs, babysitting, cleaning, painting, general labor helper type shit.

I'm thinking about getting away from here at some point and giving up what little I do have.

And yeah, the chorus of that song spoke to me in some kinda way.

>Because without God, how can we overcome?

How did the Romans overcome? How did the Greeks overcome? How did the Egyptians make the pyramids and before them how did people make the ziggurats? How did all the people manage to do what they did without the Christian God?

That is what I thought, which is why I'm confused.

Everyone already knows their "meaning". They may not call it their meaning/purpose but that is just because they don't like it, they think they can do better. I think people are lying when they say they have no purpose. I think "deep down" they have aspirations for themselves but for whatever reason they won't or are unable to complete them. Or at least try.

To not be able to know your meaning/purpose would require a person to have utterly no understanding of themselves.

"Not knowing" is probably just "not liking".

Basically going out and asking or looking for the meaning to life is meaningless in the first place.

And if a real meaning existed it would not change anything.

ok dude lol, it was funny to me is all, sorry i brought it up