Holy shit guys

Holy shit guys.

The number of whinging fucking faggots on this board justifying why they won't start a family.

>boo hoo women are all whores
>boo hoo I can't afford all the gadgets I want

You are the result of life perpetuating itself for 3.8billion fucking years. You're going to let that chain end because of money for pot and iphones?

Women are faithful to the guy who gives them the best orgasms. Hit the fucking gym, fuck her like you hate her, be a male role model for the future generations of the white race.

Jesus Christ you guys are shifting blame so much you sound like a pack of street rats asking mo' money fo' 'dem programs.

I know it's a feminist cliché but if you pussies don't "man up" and recreate the nuclear family, who the fuck else do you think is going to do it? The responsibility of society has always fallen to men. Chickening out like you are and saying "it's not my fault," is you being a giant fucking coward, and would make the great men in your ancestry turn away in shame.

Fuck you all.

This
You guys are the nu-males you hate

Bump with my disgust for you

Have you ever lived with a women? I'd rather be dead then go through all that drama again.

She literally faked having herpes to see if i'd leave her, then she fucking faked being pregnant by bringing me her friends piss test result, to see if i'd leave her. I walked out and never spoke to her again.
Women are fucked in the head.

I'm 18 faggot. I haven't even started college yet.

You faggots preach for freedom and then insist that everyone conform to your specific vision of what reality should be. You're no better than the liberal boogeyman you hate so much.

>complains about the white race dying out
>doesn't want to do the work required to keep it going

I know this doesn't apply to me because I'm not white but I'll bump this thread anyway

Be assertive. Be a leader. Stop retreating from society and patting yourself on the back for being better than everyone you refuse to interact with. Make friends and unstupid them. Find a woman and unwhore her.

You were probably bluepilled once but somebody gave you the benefit of the doubt and took a shot at unfucking your brain, and it worked. Pay it forward and reap the benefits.

I couldn't give a fuck about the white race.

Civilization is greater than your single experience, or that of any man.

I got married. Had a kid. Bitch cheated and am now divorced, and see my kid 50/50. It sucks but oh well.

Currently on a new chick and am working on more kids. Lessons learned but it'll potentially turn to shit again. Who cares? Making kids is its own reward.

And because my civilization needs me to. I dont want to go through the shitfight with women again. I'd rather smoke bongs and play dota. But instead I'm perpetuating my race and being the best possible parent for my kid, and with more understanding of the dynamics each time, I get closer to undersranding how to control my family as a strong patriarch, and select the least risky woman to breed with.

You are just making more excuses.

check the flag, you fucking faggots

So move to Africa

get rid of all the niggers for me and I'll think about it,I'm not rich enough to send my my would-be child to private school and raising a kid around niggers and other assorted shitskins is child abuse.

But I couldn't give a fuck about niggers either. The only thing that matters to me is me.

That makes you the nigger. Get out of my first world civilization or kill yourself.

>women are faithfull to the guy who gives her the best orgasms
>there is someone giving her the lesser orgasms
>she is still faithfull tho

Yeah, crawl back under a rock.

ITT deadbeats lecture deadbeats

That's fine. More white women for me. If your people won't save your society, mine will.
>t. 1/2 black guy with a white wife and 4 quadroon children.

its always easier to blame others. i mean yes, this isnt really a world you should put a kid into, but if you dont, the others will, and they will probably make the world even worse, and if you stop creating people making it good it will get worse and worse.. eventually there will be a world fit for kids. or humans in generals

now all i have to do is stop being forever alone

Maybe if you weren't a worthless beta you wouldn't live in fear of her chasing a chad away from you.

Reminder

Every time a civilization collapses, the men are found to be powerless, like currently in the west

>lets just allow women to take our financial lives hostage just so later on they can divorce us, take all our money and children and go fuck some hairy monkey becuase BBC meme

As well as mistreating our children and having them raised by a slut of a single mom

Until the system is fixed there is so little incentive to go out and get married and have children.
IT will only fuck us and our race in the end.
Women have grown around a culture of being a slutty, shallow cow
That giving into every small petty desire is better then holding up morals or virtues
And finding one that isnt a cunt might as well be the same as trying to find a respectable black man in niggerville

It wouldnt even matter anyway, because the system favors women so much, you might as well not even risk it

I dont want my chilren to end up like the fatherless niggers

More excuses.

Grow a pair and lead a woman. Don't back down on your convictions. Make it clear where the door is. She will be brought to heel by your leadership and you can be the man of the house. It is your birthright as a man to do this.

Instead people complain it's too hard and watch their civilization collapse.

Right. I'll sacrifice myself to prove that i'm alpha.

That is so alpha.

Just go kill yourself.

Get a vasectomy, pump and dump, enjoy your life. Society can crash and burn for all i care.

>boo boo it's too hard.
>not going to do anything because it's too hard.
>I'm right to be a cowardly lazy piece of shit who shifts blame and feels sorry for myself.

Why the fuck would you allow her control?

Yeah because appearing alpha is what I am saying is important about this.

The narcissism of this board. You claim to be upholders of great ideals and the superior race... and yet you can't think beyond your own experience or worse, your appearance to strangers.

Yeah and it's just women and niggers who are shallow. Sure it is.

I just stated a fact, not saying anything about my own convictions.
I do try to find a worthy girl to marry and have kids with. But I become increasingly nervous as I learn that most girls are degenerate whores. Sexual revolution, thanks a lot.

I know that even if I somehow get a woman I'm too much a broken person to actually keep up a relationship with them. So at the most I'll have 1-2 kids in a split up family, great prospect there kek.

Sorry I was quick to assume.

I refute that men are powerless though.

Testosterone gives you all the power you need. You are always capable of dominating someone and making them loyal to your will. Noone is going to step in and deny her loving you for making her feel safe and beautiful and excited and everything else they need to feel to not get bored and start to stray.

I'm not saying it isn't hard, but unless we're getting castrated at birth, we still have the potential to co trol out environment and lead others into a future with a strong family.

you didn't even address my argument you australian piece of shit

Tell me, what good is having children if the goverment and system will just fuck it up, and give all power to the shallow cunt that changes her mind every 2 days
What use do i have with getting my money taken away to be used by her to fuck around with niggers and spics

If you think this isnt reason enough to avoid that shit, then please by all means. Go and get yourself taken hostage by some shallow cunt who will fuck the big black nigger behind your back

Why dont you ask my country that, or better yet the jews. They literly perpetuate this kind of cancerous system

>I took the highest paying job
>That must mean I'm also doing the lesser paying jobs at the same time

This. This. This.

>Time to grow balls faggots

ITT: Childless losers telling other people to have children.

I'm not childless, faggot.

Again you're basing all of your cowardice around it being too hard to control your woman, or too painful for you to go without some extra cash for frivolous shit.

I say the relevance of having a future for your ancestral lineage and the perpetuating of the greatest ever civilization outweighs your need to avoid being nagged or having extra cash for some fancy gadget.

Stop being such a narcissistic selfish whiney bitch.

>entire existence predicated upon reining in the capriciousness of a woman, molding yourself in the image of her desires
No thanks.

good little sissy cucks

Well then you are not permitted to ever make a single complaint about your civilization collapsing, because your selfishness is as much to blame as anything else.

Something being hard is not sole justification for chickening out.

You realize you don't need a wife to have kids, right? If you're financially stable enough to have kids, it's far, far cheaper to buy donor eggs and pay a surrogate. Then you're ensured custody, and you're ensured 100% of your own money.

Fuck off cunt.

I might have kids, I might not.

Most of the white people breeding in Australia are meathead shit. Don't owe you nothing.

That sounds lame desu

>my children will literly be raised by a single mom who will fuck 10 other guys while neglecting her child
>i will literly only see my children every other month and they will be more or less raised around some nigger

Oh yea im selfish, i only care about the money that i work for and make to provide for a family
>Again you're basing all of your cowardice around it being too hard to control your woman
How the fuck do i control someone who has all the legal power in my country and, can be sexually fullfilled by whichever shit-skin she wants that day

Quit acting like its 1950

I know OP. It pisses me off too.

Basically they are just hedonist ONLY concerned with themselves.

Pretty much. Both are selfish hedonist

Well yeah I was a pussy and shacked up with a chick with borderline personality disorder. Shit happens.

Won't stop me doing what is the responsibility of any man who loves the west.

And if you don't love the west, and don't feel a duty of honour to your ancestors, then you're a nigger, or worse, a white nigger, and you should fuck off to Africa and be with your solipsistic, narcissistic, shallow kindred there.

I'm sure raising kids as a single parent is much better for them. No need to show them how to duplicate the staple of the nuclear family, nah just fuck that cause women are whores rite?

I am a millionaire and married. Not having kids because it's not worth it. There's no reason I shouldn't enjoy MY life with the wife and adopt some 16-18 year old to leave my money to.

I don't get all the women hate either man

I just want a qt wife and kids

Not true at all. If some white guy wants to take the risk of having a family, I will gladly help bankroll them so that they can make up for me not having kids.

> inb4 cuck
> inb4 muh gorillion years of genes

Literally don't care m9.

OP is absolutely right. Stop fapping to your degenerate hentai and jewish sex propaganda, hit the gym, read a book, get a good job, and save your money foe what counts: propagating your line.

Statistics show that a single father household is significantly - by a large margin - better than a single mother household. It's not as if two working parents aren't then norm. Most people's kids are in latchkey programs, or some form of daycare, scouts, after school activity programs. The kid could fare far worse. In fact, just having a legal mother puts the kid at risk of her full custody. So which is the lesser evil.

100%

>But starting a family takes effort and it's not easy wahhhhh

Nothing in life worth doing is ever going to be easy

You don't know me.

I have managed the exwife so we are close friends and I see everything in her life.

I have my kid 4 nights a week and on weekends.

Keep making excuses about how it's too hard for you to do anything otger than serve yourself with porn, pot and computer games. I'm sure your grandparents will be understanding of why you let their genetic line end, once you meet them in the afterlife.

You sound like you might be a giant faggot and she recognized that.

Nah, women do these shit tests all the time.

>Be assertive. Be a leader. Stop retreating from society and patting yourself on the back for being better than everyone you refuse to interact with. Make friends and unstupid them. Find a woman and unwhore her.
>You were probably bluepilled once but somebody gave you the benefit of the doubt and took a shot at unfucking your brain, and it worked. Pay it forward and reap the benefits.

underrated post my wise friend

cuck

90% of first world civilisation couldn't give a fuck about the white race either how about you get out

>Shit happens man, but you should sacrifice yourself anyways for the common good!
>Otherwise you're a not a real man, hedonist, asshole, gay, hate women, hate your race

There is no single reason to hate all women though permavirgin faggots on this board want to convince you otherwise. Man it’s the SAME THING as feminists who bitch and moan about the "patriarchy". The only REAL issue is how political systems in the United States handle disputes between men and women, often favoring the latter; occasionally to outrageous circumstances. Finding the right woman is a "rite of passage" that these new age red pill faggots reject but have never experienced. Why do you think real faggots pair up, men and women? Having a partner to go through life, to share it, to help each other when times get hard... it just makes sense. Why the fuck would you want to be some nobody in your 50s, no family, no one to give a shit about you, waiting to die, and still posting on Sup Forums about how you "dodged a bullet". Total shitasses.

This is a guy with a failed relationship, lecturing us on how it'll all work out. Sure worked out when the mother of his kid walked out on him. And he has the gall to talk about nuclear families.

Dont give up bro

Pathetic mate.

I spent the weekend taking my kid with my girlfriend around a carnival and fucking the shit out of my girlfriend with whom I'm discussing more kids.

I assume you spent your weekend watching porn and playing computer games.

Calling me names doesn't change the answer to "which one of us is contributing to the downfall of western civlization?"

(It's you.)

>I have managed the exwife so we are close friends

You really think this sort of relationship happens often?
Not only that youre fucking australian
Your laws are different and honestly i cant fucking compare them to ours.
Theres no point arguing your sitatuation, when we're living in two different states

Because you choose shitty women. You probably seek out the vapid cunts who put out easy and then you expect them to have the feminine qualities of a 1950s housewife after you bed them. Try seeking out women who aren't fixated on partying, sex, and "their career" and look for women who behave like women and not men with vaginas.

Women only like outgoing and muscular guys. That's why I'll never have kids.

I'm working on it dude. It's not easy finding good women in California.

Aussie divorce laws are literally worse than ours.

>outgoing and muscular
You can be both of these if you put in effort to do so

>Women only like
That's your first problem, assuming all women think alike.

Ow the edge

Assuming they think at all.

You're right. Me kicking her out should mean I give up ckmpletely and spend the rest of my life jerking off and feeljng aorry for myself, thus teaching my son to run from responsibility.

Great advice user. You must be drowning jn pussy with that wisdom. Sign me up for the awesome society you build.

preach straya

So why did you kick her out. What'd she do?

Because I have dreams and want to achieve them with least baggage as possible.
I have 3 sisters, they're already doing their job and getting pregnant, I don't have to do anything.

Another thing is I have an irrational aggression to women and their shit.

>Assuming they think at all.
That's why you've failed at creating a family.

Almost all of them do. It's like how guys like ass and titties. Being shy and average eliminates your from the dating pool.

>Holy shit guys. The number of whinging fucking faggots on this board justifying why they won't start a family.

I hope you die

turn off the proxy varg

>Almost all of them do.
Okay.

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Only thing stopping me from pumping kids is that im 19 and i must finish college first to be able to provide for them. It is stupid to make children like niggers so you cannot even support them without welfare

I switched to desktop.

Please tell me how I'm wrong. I never see couples where the guy isn't outgoing and muscular. A shy guy literally can't get laid without getting a hooker.

Honestly?

Failed pregnancy meant she had a nervous breakdown.

This coincided with my "best friend" literally harrassing her over a year to leave me and be with him.

I knew he was a cunt, and I knew she was a wreck because of the lost pregnancy, so I passively thought she and him would fizzle out and we could get on with things (despite him being a messed up cunt I still wanted to love him as a friend because in a lot of ways I felt sorry for him.)

Ultimately she caved and couldn't face what she saw as her failures, took him as the easy path out but got pregnant to me at the last minute.

Paternity test confirmed it's mine. He fucked her over and she wound up with nothing while I got the house and kept my 6 figure job.

Now got a new younger woman from a rich family and will make a happy household while co-parenting with the ex who regrets her life.

Best thing that ever happened to be desu (though not at the time).

The real reason is the people on this board are afraid to be men and stand their ground.

Jesus, when you start dating a chick don't put up with bullshit. I'm not saying to beat your woman to death, but if she backtalks put her in her place.

Keep things an even split, don't let her take advantage of you. Keep control of your wallet.

You want to try hard mode? I have married and have 2 kids with a "feminist". When she starts babbling about shit I laugh in her face.

when she tells me shes voting for hilary, I go "oh you guys can vote now?".

Seriously. They only has a much control as you let them.

"OH BUT THEY'LL FUCK YOU IN COURT", you never let it get that far. Emotions are their weak point, if you can't master that you're a failure of a man.

OP u speak to me very clear and direct
But what if women are legitimately onsight scared of you.
Like literally they want me to leave and always will work against.
The outcast card is so ingrained I want them banished back home.
And none have brought anything worth smiling.

Also, literally y would I bring up children in a jewish indoctrinated plague of a society that doesn't want them to have healthy sex @ age 14, and wants to extort people through wage slavery for the rest of their life so they suffer needlessly on a terrible shame of an infrastructure that revolves around keeping a failing model of the nuclear family cooped up in Big Car, never exploring, migrating, or enjoying the world properly outside their silverado windows?

>GUYS LOOK AT ME I'M 45 YEARS OLD AND I OWN A TRADE BUSINESS AND HAVE A LOYAL WIFE AND BEAUTIFUL CHILDREN YOU ARE ALL WEAK AND PATHETIC BECAUSE LIKE WE ALL KNOW NOTHING HAS CHANGED IN THE LAST 20 YEARS SINCE I HAVE GOTTEN MARRIED, ITS SO EASY TO MARRY NOWADAYS, WHATS THAT? YOU DON'T WANT TO GET DEVORCED AND HAVE YOUR PROPERTY TAKEN AWAY FROM YOU? HAHAHAHA WHAT A COWARD!


Honestly just kill everyone at retirement age and half our problems will be solved

Parasite

This.

My last girlfriend and current were both Hillary supporting feminists. They will sell out their beliefs for the dicking they get.

I don't hide my opinions. They know I'm a right wing fascist and that I support Trump.

I stand my ground and they respect me for it.

>1 woman represents 3 billion+ other women

Yeah, you're gonna need a better argument than that

WTF are you talking about? I see virtual hordes of half-witted retards with wives and children on a daily basis. What kind of women are you seeking out? Literal 10/10s? Of course they're going to go after the muscular outgoing guys because those guys are 10/10s as well. If you're not up to spec for those women try aiming lower, down to your level. Of you didn't hit the genetic lottery you don't deserve the genetic prize.

I don't need to have kids in order to have a positive impact on society.

...

Used to have a girlfriend but broke up with her.

The initiatic development of the spirit is hindered by woman. Like Percival, only by shedding the feminine influence in my life could I attain higher levels of spiritual development.

You see, whereas in a Traditional society the feminine element could bolster a man's strength and renew his vigor, in the modern world (The Age of Kali, Iron Age in the Hellenic Tradition), woman is too far from her spiritual roots to fulfill this role. How can one attain the Kingdom of Heaven, which Christ said was "not of this world," by allowing oneself to be dragged down to the level of the chthonic and telluric? The quest for the spirit is solitary. One cannot achieve initiation without first removing from his life the comfort of woman.

She called me "inhuman" when I broke up with her. I knew this to be a sign that I was doing the right thing. To transcend all that which is "merely human", to become an aristocrat of the soul, I had no other choice.

Well, to be perfectly honest, there is more at work than just males pussying out.

You have to consider the social engineering that has been foisted upon all children from primary education through high school, and now even at college.

You got entertainment dripping with social engineering, designed to divide and conquer western nations into oblivion.

Most ADULTS aren't strong enough to go against their own instincts (like social proof), let alone how badly social engineering effects children, who don't have any correct teaching from their parents to protect them from the social engineering and propaganda.

Males are weeded out of the gene pool by advanced social engineering, designed to make others look at them as inferior when they are still young, this manifests as a form of depression, hopelessness, etc... they are ostricized from society, and everyone else thinks this is normal because a lot of men don't breed anyway. Human instincts accept males being regularly removed from the gene pool.

Females get a different version of the propaganda, since male and female mating strategies are so different. Females are generally propagandized with propaganda that manipulates their hypergamy instincts, with the propagandists telling them that a certain group of men are "Obviously" superior to another group of men.

Typically, the "Superior" group is only superior at following orders, not thinking for themselves, heavy lifting, etc... Which is good for the buisinesses of those who control the media and create the social engineering.

Females also receive propaganda that tries to convince them to act in ways that makes them uglier to men, or to hate men entirely, reducing their chances of reproduction.

If you really want these males and females to propagate, we need to remove the media monopolies, and take the social engineering out of our schools.

It's no use shaming these males into improving themselves, they have been shamed all of their lives.

That's not the point.

You should screenshot your own post, so when you eventually get divorced (you will) you can look back at how retarded you were.

Not an argument you vampire squid

I signed up for Tinder a few months ago and got 250 matches over the span of 3 months. I only got about 15 messages and they only consisted of "hey" and "what's up." It's hopeless for average guys. Hypergamy is a real thing.